someone familiar with Basel II comment on this article

[QUESTINY]

Originally Posted by Zarathustra

Q,

If I understand you correctly, the 700 billion would prevent and international "outing" of the criminal banking by making them compliant. That does make sense, though why wait till the last minute? Of course they had to create the crisis "to be managed" in order to pull it off. I think there is something to this. It might also explain why the Fed lent out so much money the day after the vote failed.

They didn't want to write the check. They wanted us to write the check. They waited to the last minute to see if it would actually go through. They wanted to see if the biggest bank heist in history would work. It didn't so they ponied up the cash to meet the deadline while trying to get still get reimbursed back from the the people...crazy theory huh?

[Zarathustra]

Originally Posted by QUESTINY

They didn't want to write the check. They wanted us to write the check. They waited to the last minute to see if it would actually go through. They wanted to see if the biggest bank heist in history would work. It didn't so they ponied up the cash to meet the deadline while trying to get still get reimbursed back from the the people...crazy theory huh?

Q,

correct or not I don't know, but crazy, I don't think so. It makes too much sense. They can hide crime domestically, but Basel II would require transparency to banks around the world. I think the specific purpose of their "panic" is certainly related.

[QUESTINY]

Originally Posted by Zarathustra

Q,

correct or not I don't know, but crazy, I don't think so. It makes too much sense. They can hide crime domestically, but Basel II would require transparency to banks around the world. I think the specific purpose of their "panic" is certainly related.

This might be why LEAP 2020 stated in February that a US and global collapse would happen around September. They knew of Basel II then. They also knew it would be impossible for the US to comply with the derivatives mess. This is an intentional take down.

[Zarathustra]

[QUOTE=QUESTINY;33564]This might be why LEAP 2020 stated in February that a US and global collapse would happen around September. They knew of Basel II then. They also knew it would be impossible for the US to comply with the derivatives mess. This is an intentional take down.[/QUOTE

Q,

Read the article, and I think you're right, or at the very least on to something that pierces the heart of the matter. Therein lies the rush, the panicked Congressman after the meeting with Paulson, Bush looking like he's been on a 10 day bender on tv, etc... If these things are true, then the illuminists that have run the U.S. economy have either a) overplayed their hand greatly, and are facing enourmous international and domestic blowback, or b) executing a defined agenda and prepping for the endgame.

[QUESTINY]

Plan B is what my heart tells me

[QUESTINY]

Also, it fits in to Congress waiting to Thursday to look at it again. Not the 1st but the 2nd of October to see what blow back transpires?

[sfth13]

Originally Posted by QUESTINY

Also, it fits in to Congress waiting to Thursday to look at it again. Not the 1st but the 2nd of October to see what blow back transpires?

looks like they are going to vote on this tomorrow after sundown

http://money.cnn.com/2008/09/30/news...ex.htm?cnn=yes

The Fed simply does not have enough cash (assets) on hand.

See here:

http://www.libertypost.org/cgi-bin/r...?ArtNum=240033


"Officials from the US Treasury Department, Japan's Finance Ministry and the European Central Bank reportedly drew up a currency contingency plan over the weekend of March 15-16, the Nikkei said, citing sources familiar with the situation. "


Notice the date!


Bernenke, Paulson and Bush were still assuring us that the "economy was on solid ground" back then.

Now Bernanke is throwing gas on the fire and doing everything he can to scare the crap put of the ordinary folks in the USA. The hyperbole is surrealistic. MSM is lapping it up like the parrots that they all are.


Bernanke tried his hardest to pillage the tax payers one more time.

Here is a link to a logical plan, doubtful it will ever get implemented though....


http://www.libertypost.org/cgi-bin/r...?ArtNum=240115

[sfth13]

I guess that's why they are going to vote on the bailout again tomorrow night ......after sundown

[Zarathustra]

Originally Posted by QUESTINY

Nout Wellink is the mastermind behind the Basel II. I'll give you three guesses who he is the chairman of and the 1st two don't count...hint BIS

This, to me, lends weight to Fulford's contention that there has been a split between the European 'Rothschilds' and the American 'Rockefellers'.

Originally Posted by painter

The Fed simply does not have enough cash (assets) on hand.

See here:

http://www.libertypost.org/cgi-bin/r...?ArtNum=240033


"Officials from the US Treasury Department, Japan's Finance Ministry and the European Central Bank reportedly drew up a currency contingency plan over the weekend of March 15-16, the Nikkei said, citing sources familiar with the situation. "


Notice the date!


Bernenke, Paulson and Bush were still assuring us that the "economy was on solid ground" back then.

Now Bernanke is throwing gas on the fire and doing everything he can to scare the crap put of the ordinary folks in the USA. The hyperbole is surrealistic. MSM is lapping it up like the parrots that they all are.


Bernanke tried his hardest to pillage the tax payers one more time.

Here is a link to a logical plan, doubtful it will ever get implemented though....


http://www.libertypost.org/cgi-bin/r...?ArtNum=240115

This lends weight to Questiny's contention that the money the Fed has pumped in since Monday was 'contigent' on getting the bailout passed so the Treasury, via the taxpayer (though the taxpayer ultimately pays the Fed's bills as well, plus interest) could then refill the Fed.

Originally Posted by sfth13

I guess that's why they are going to vote on the bailout again tomorrow night ......after sundown

...see previous statement...

[Greg10036]

This is wonderful information. Thank you for posting it.
g.

[sfth13]

makes sense the way you all layed it out. now we just wait and see, should be interesting.

[Zarathustra]

Originally Posted by Greg10036

This is wonderful information. Thank you for posting it.
g.

You're welcome G.

Originally Posted by sfth13

makes sense the way you all layed it out. now we just wait and see, should be interesting.

I agree.

[Love/Light 13]

Z-


I believe that if the IMF announces an audit of the Fed, it is an indicator that the Rothschild faction is ready to stick it to the Rockefeller/Israeli faction, and wants to bankrupt the US oil slinging tycoons. The problem for the Rothschild/Illuminati is that they are bankrupt themselves! It appears the end of Western world domination may be coming to an end. Russia, China, and Iran may be forging a powerful alliance that does not need the European/US contingent. Talk about a paradigm shift.

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may WISDOM guide COMPASSION

"out of MANY, we are ONE"

[Zarathustra]

Originally Posted by Love/Light 13

Z-


I believe that if the IMF announces an audit of the Fed, it is an indicator that the Rothschild faction is ready to stick it to the Rockefeller/Israeli faction, and wants to bankrupt the US oil slinging tycoons. The problem for the Rothschild/Illuminati is that they are bankrupt themselves! It appears the end of Western world domination may be coming to an end. Russia, China, and Iran may be forging a powerful alliance that does not need the European/US contingent. Talk about a paradigm shift.

********************

may WISDOM guide COMPASSION

"out of MANY, we are ONE"

L, You may very well be right, though I don't think that anywhere in the world is going to be impacted as deeply as the U.S. Therefore, they may be able to "stick it to the US" as you say while suffering manageable damage themselves. Certainly Russia and China have asserted themselves recently, so there is great merit to that comment.

Z

[Love/Light 13]

Z-


I do agree the US may take the hardest "fall" simply because they are the world's only superpower, I believe exposure of the Illuminati/Rothschild agenda may be in order. While this is highly speculative, it is my educated hunch. If this is the case, the real victim will be the Vatican. The exposure of the greed and excess of the Papacy will permanently shift the power structure of the planet away from the Israeli/Judeo-Christian Zionist prophetic timeline...........


L/L 13

Originally Posted by Love/Light 13

Z-


I believe that if the IMF announces an audit of the Fed, it is an indicator that the Rothschild faction is ready to stick it to the Rockefeller/Israeli faction, and wants to bankrupt the US oil slinging tycoons. The problem for the Rothschild/Illuminati is that they are bankrupt themselves! It appears the end of Western world domination may be coming to an end. Russia, China, and Iran may be forging a powerful alliance that does not need the European/US contingent. Talk about a paradigm shift.

********************

may WISDOM guide COMPASSION

"out of MANY, we are ONE"

Bush was read the riot act over three months ago by the European powers (banking / criminal syndicate). He essentially promised to do what ever was needed to quell the storm....if in return they would delay the opening of the Fed's "off market" books.....effectively showing the world that they are broke, until he was out of office and safely holed up in South America on his newly purchased ranch.

Such are the perils of "incremental banking" laws. A house of cards will now come tumbling down.

[Zarathustra]

Originally Posted by QUESTINY

Plan B is what my heart tells me

If elections are not suspended, then perhaps we look to the BIS audit as a culminating point?

[QUESTINY]

Originally Posted by Zarathustra

If elections are not suspended, then perhaps we look to the BIS audit as a culminating point?

When the Bank of International Settlements looks at the books it will be to late...it will only verify the banksters worst fears. The take down of the US economy by TPTB are weeks away.

[Love/Light 13]

Q and Z-

I remember hearing George Green state that the IMF was going to demand an audit of the Fed if the U.S. banks did not get their act together by October 1st, due to the new fiscal year. This clearly ties into what you are stating with Basel II.

Do either of you know who impliments the Basel II program, or who established the law?

It seems to me the American people are ready for vengance........more like a peaceful vengence though, if that makes sense. Maybe the paradigm shift will be a move towards ethics and personal responsiblity. A bringing to justice of the perpetrators of these high crimes we all speak about. We need that. The Mayan calander, for instance, does allude to the transition from the current period of power dominating the earth, to a period dominated by "ETHICS". Any thoughts??


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may WISDOM guide COMPASSION

"out of MANY, we are ONE"

[Zarathustra]

Originally Posted by QUESTINY

Also, it fits in to Congress waiting to Thursday to look at it again. Not the 1st but the 2nd of October to see what blow back transpires?

Interesting point.

Originally Posted by QUESTINY

When the Bank of International Settlements looks at the books it will be to late...it will only verify the banksters worst fears. The take down of the US economy by TPTB are weeks away.

I agree Q, though the situation may continue to be "floated" until the audit is complete in order to move the pawns into final place. Or, the move could be made prior to the audit beginning. Starting to see the timing of the Iraq battalions being deployed domestically in a new light.

Originally Posted by Love/Light 13

Q and Z-

I remember hearing George Green state that the IMF was going to demand an audit of the Fed if the U.S. banks did not get their act together by October 1st, due to the new fiscal year. This clearly ties into what you are stating with Basel II.

Do either of you know who impliments the Basel II program, or who established the law?

It seems to me the American people are ready for vengance........more like a peaceful vengence though, if that makes sense. Maybe the paradigm shift will be a move towards ethics and personal responsiblity. A bringing to justice of the perpetrators of these high crimes we all speak about. We need that. The Mayan calander, for instance, does allude to the transition from the current period of power dominating the earth, to a period dominated by "ETHICS". Any thoughts??


**************************

may WISDOM guide COMPASSION

"out of MANY, we are ONE"

I don't know who implements Basel II, although my guess would be IMF, run by the European Rothschild faction of the Illuminist (see Benjamin Fulford's assertion that there has been a split between them and the American "Rockefeller" faction). I see you point about ethics. Just remember, as Nietzche so eloquently laid out in "Beyond Good and Evil", ethics and morals are relative concepts, not absolutes. All I mean by that is it will have to be "created", not simply "arrive". There will be much pain, as described by Greene, in the short run.

Z

[sfth13]

Originally Posted by Love/Light 13

Q and Z-

I remember hearing George Green state that the IMF was going to demand an audit of the Fed if the U.S. banks did not get their act together by October 1st, due to the new fiscal year. This clearly ties into what you are stating with Basel II.

Do either of you know who impliments the Basel II program, or who established the law?

It seems to me the American people are ready for vengance........more like a peaceful vengence though, if that makes sense. Maybe the paradigm shift will be a move towards ethics and personal responsiblity. A bringing to justice of the perpetrators of these high crimes we all speak about. We need that. The Mayan calander, for instance, does allude to the transition from the current period of power dominating the earth, to a period dominated by "ETHICS". Any thoughts??


**************************

may WISDOM guide COMPASSION

"out of MANY, we are ONE"

I've been searching trying to find that myself, this all i could find

http://www.bis.org/bcbs/index.htm

[Zarathustra]

Originally Posted by sfth13

I've been searching trying to find that myself, this all i could find

http://www.bis.org/bcbs/index.htm

I think that answers it pretty well, the BIS, controlled by the Rothschilds.

[QUESTINY]

Nout Wellink is the mastermind behind the Basel II. I'll give you three guesses who he is the chairman of and the 1st two don't count...hint BIS

[Steve_A]

Hi Zarathustra,

As I understood it, many banks in the US adopting the Basel II compliancy would have taken themselves out of the market, as I read it, it was quite an expensive operation to make their banks compliant.

So the way that business works is to keep moving forward as usual, to make the most money possible, of course, it's a business, and parallel to that try and negociate or stave off of the deadlines, which the US government has been doing. I think the banks have found themselves too late and the government unsuccessful in staving off for more time.

So what neds to be asked is why SOME banks (Fanny May, Freddy Mack, AIG were given money, and a lot of money, without even asking the American people, that JP Morgan bought out WAMU from the US government for practically nothing, and also Bear Stearn another deal that was engineered by the government) and others were let to rot - 'Oh what a wicked web we weave'.

One thing seems to be clear, the bailout plan is not to help te people it's to help the 'old boys' club'.

Best regards,

Steve

Originally Posted by Zarathustra

Q,

correct or not I don't know, but crazy, I don't think so. It makes too much sense. They can hide crime domestically, but Basel II would require transparency to banks around the world. I think the specific purpose of their "panic" is certainly related.