Miriam Delicado Interview, Your Views?

[Racsouran]

love spent to the air is not the solution to everything.

[Princess Mew Mew]

Originally Posted by Racsouran

love spent to the air is not the solution to everything.

I'm sorry I don't quite understand. Could you explain what you mean? Thank you

[Racsouran]

Originally Posted by Princess Mew Mew

I'm sorry I don't quite understand. Could you explain what you mean? Thank you

to make others feel the love you talk about is not wishing them to feel what you want them to feel. Hare krishna is a waste of time.

if you want others to feel love, you will have to implicate yourself with them personally, emotionally, intimately; you will have to use your time, your energy, and your life to MAKE LOVE with them personally.

Otherwise you are only preaching wishful thinking.

[Princess Mew Mew]

Originally Posted by Racsouran

to make others feel the love you talk about is not wishing them to feel what you want them to feel. Hare krishna is a waste of time.

if you want others to feel love, you will have to implicate yourself with them personally, emotionally, intimately; you will have to use your time, your energy, and your life to MAKE LOVE with them personally.

Otherwise you are only preaching wishful thinking.

I see what you mean (I could be wrong though). I'm personally not trying to preach wishful thinking. I think I understand you are taking my hope as wishful thinking? I have hope, it's my own hope. And I pray with love (I meditate and send my love energy throughout) I personally think it's hard for many people to say "I love you" to just anyone. But I refuse to hate, I refuse to be angered, I send my love (which is a frequency as all things are, to my understanding) to everyone and everything. What is tough, is being in a constant space of love. I have helped many of my friends feel love, emotionally and physically "chi gung". As I am helping those around me, I also wish to help those I cannot be with physically. I agree with you and I understand that it is important for those to truely 'feel' it, though they can only do this for themselves ultimately. You have said above, I quote "to make others feel the love you talk about" This, to me, is incorrect. I could never make anyone feel anything they didn't want to feel for themselves. I would never want to make anyone do anything. I do not have or want that kind of authority or power or control. No thanks. I hope I've cleared things up and I appreciate and thank you for your views and opinions, love and peace <3

[clarkkent]

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[Princess Mew Mew]

Though I appreciate the intent, I don't need, nor want anyone to 'stick up' for me. I am fine. And I am not upset at anything being said here. Whether a person accepts it or not, I will show my love. It need not be accepted and others may challenge it if they so wish. What is happening now, is unnecessary. We need not point any fingers and it seems things are getting personal. I hope this can end right now. Please be at one <3

[Racsouran]

Originally Posted by Princess Mew Mew

I don't need, nor want anyone to 'stick up' for me. I am fine. And I am not upset at anything being said here. What is happening now, is unnecessary. We need not point any fingers and it seems things are getting personal. I hope this can end right now. Please be at one <3

this guy called clarc quent insulted me for free so its not my fault . hahah so he ended being what he didn´t desired to be.

[clarkkent]

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[Carol]

Originally Posted by Racsouran

to make others feel the love you talk about is not wishing them to feel what you want them to feel. Hare krishna is a waste of time.

if you want others to feel love, you will have to implicate yourself with them personally, emotionally, intimately; you will have to use your time, your energy, and your life to MAKE LOVE with them personally.

Otherwise you are only preaching wishful thinking.

There are many different types of love. Passionate as in Eros and endearing friendship is in Aggape.

In various spiritual practices the master loves the student with all of one's heart. This is the love that flows through the heart from heavenly realms.

Those who have visions of saints, masters, christ, buddha, Our Lady, etc. all experience love as all encompassing and all embracing. Those who choose a spiritual path have an opportunity to transcend Eros and transmute it into Aggape. Think of a stick... Eros on one end and Aggape on the other. One is always on the stick yet can change their location with intention and great heart. Be not harsh with those who have had different experiences then yourself. Instead be open to the difference and allow yourself the possibility of experiencing something new.

[Racsouran]

[Artycarl]

I watched the whole interview and in common with a number of people was not totally impressed by Miriam. I have an enormous monitor so I like to have the interviews playing in full screen and it helps me focus, not only on the words but how they are spoken. Thanks to some nice zooming by Bill and Kerry we had a very good view of her face at certain times during the interview and my impression was that she is a genuine person but I suspect her story has been embellished in parts.

I would say that she HAS had an important experience but to 'flesh' it out for a book she has called on other things that perhaps she has heard or read elsewhere.

I fall back on my personal theory that it is the message and not the messenger that is important and in this respect it is a message that I think everyone here can relate to.

Massive respect once again to Bill and Kerry for bringing these issues to our doorstep.

[Kate]

Racsouran, Clark Kent, Princess mewmew,

This thread is now decending into a 'slang n hang' match . NOT ACCEPTABLE!

I think this is enough now.

move on folks...much bigger issues at hand going on to debate and contribute to in other threads!

your postings will be removed if this continues.

one thing that is puzzling me about the interview. I think Miriam says that she was taken into some of the underground bases, or what would seem underground bases, and then told by her contacts to stay away from there for it could be dangerous. If this is the case, what was her contracts doing there and why would they take her there if it was dangerous? Sounds a bit close to the bone for me.

[feeler]

Originally Posted by lawlessline

one thing that is puzzling me about the interview. I think Miriam says that she was taken into some of the underground bases, or what would seem underground bases, and then told by her contacts to stay away from there for it could be dangerous. If this is the case, what was her contracts doing there and why would they take her there if it was dangerous? Sounds a bit close to the bone for me.

She was shown in front of a screen. It could be where our missing children are being taken to.

[milk and honey]

Originally Posted by feeler

She was shown in front of a screen. It could be where our missing children are being taken to.

Miriam said she was "shown an image". Then she said "we were in the astral and the Nordic said to me 'we must be very quiet otherwise they will know that you're here... don't ever come here because it is very dangerous'".

[Ampgod]

For me, The message was don't be a victim. Take personal responsibility for yourself and your life. Learn who you are. Take your power back and be the change you wish to see. Help to manifest the world you want.



Peace,
Ampgod

[feeler]

Originally Posted by milk and honey

Miriam said she was "shown an image". Then she said "we were in the astral and the Nordic said to me 'we must be very quiet otherwise they will know that you're here... don't ever come here because it is very dangerous'".

Thank you. If it is a dangerous place for Miriam, more than likely it is a dangerous place for the missing children. Shouldn't we make an effort to encourage or support the search for our missing children there in those underground bases?

*We are all ONE; if you accept the belief, then we should attempt to make contact and not be intimidated by our fear.

[Accipiter_Phi]

Lets keep it relevant to the thread

[Racsouran]

why it´s not an option to delete my own posts¿?

[Bill Ryan]

Hi, All:

A litttle more on this. (We've been on the road for several days and so I've only just caught up on the very interesting range of views here.)

On page 4 of this thread (a long time ago!) I wrote this...

It seems obvious that we are in very deep trouble on this planet and have failed miserably in our own human responsibility to be stewards of all that's around us.

The problems of 'ordinary' human greed and short-sightedness have been exacerbated by the agendas of various control factions that have been around for quite a long time. But a lot of it is our own doing, too.

There's a great danger that we're going to blow it as the human race (or this version of it).

It's not quite too late - but it's perilously close. James Lovelock, the originator of the Gaia model, now says that the Earth is too damaged to be able to repair itself properly (my paraphrase).

Resources (oil, minerals, water, food) are becoming depleted and scarce. The world's population is growing at the rate of an additional city per day. All this would be worrying enough if the world's leaders were actually trying to handle these problems, but they are not: they are obsessed with perverted ideas of destiny and power and regard you and me as pawns on a giant chessboard to be sacrificed at will.

So if I were a member of a powerful, benevolent, Guardian race (and I'm sure they exist, maybe in many different forms) I'd be concerned too. I think they might intervene - but only at the eleventh hour and in limited ways. We may live to find out.

It seems certain that some people are being prepared, in some way, for something. You, reading this, are the only arbiter of whether or not this may apply to you.

... and it still stands.

Of course, we're not trying to persuade anyone to believe anything. (We still get e-mails every day about Blossom Goodchild. We despair!)

It was Kerry who first contacted Miriam earlier this year. I was skeptical - despite having had my own contact experiences back in the 1980s. I am always very wary of information like this. I do consider myself to be skeptical in the very sense as brilliantly defined by Bernie Haisch:

[A sleptic is] one who practices the method of suspended judgment, engages in rational and dispassionate reasoning as exemplified by the scientific method, shows willingness to consider alternative explanations without prejudice based on prior beliefs, and who seeks out evidence and carefully scrutinizes its validity.

When I met Miriam a few days before the interview, I was instantly struck by her honesty and integrity, which shone through her in our private meeting. I felt a strong personal connection with her (as did Kerry from the very start, but that was the first time I had met her).

She's a strong presenter on camera, but this belies her sensitivity: after the cameras were turned off she was in tears for several minutes, such was the intensity of the previous couple of hours for her.

While those were private moments, it seems that for some that kind of outtake might have been valuable to help evaluate her sincerity and vulnerability.

The text describing the interview (before it was published) was written by me. Kerry had thought it might be a little too strongly worded. The reason I'm relating all this here is to share my own personal journey relative to Miriam's testimony: starting out doubtful and wondering where Kerry was going with this... and ending up paying extremely close attention to her story, which I continue to do. I'm delighted we met her and interviewed her and I am convinced her story is important.

Very best to all, Bill

[Racsouran]

Good for you, for me all remains the same and it´s my responsability to accept my feelings on that.

The emphasizing of "deep" emotions, and emotional states in a text is enough reason to make me doubt. well i never trusted anything, besides that; i only read to take probabilities into account.

[Bill Ryan]

Originally Posted by Racsouran

Good for you, for me all remains the same and it´s my responsability to accept my feelings on that.

The emphasizing of "deep" emotions, and emotional states in a text is enough reason to make me doubt. well i never trusted anything, besides that; i only read to take probabilities into account.

Yes, it is your responsibility... I appreciate your acknowledging that. Some people don't.

I also appreciate your skepticism. Suggested guidelines:

1) Never let skepticism slide into cynicism.

2) Always be respectful of others' views (as I am of yours here).

3) Never be afraid to change your mind if the evidence leads you that way.

4) Don't get stuck in an intellectual position which you then have to defend.

5) If The Project Avalon Forum is not the right place for you (which is primarily intended to be solution- and action-based), then there are many other good places for you to debate and discuss your views.

Very best, Bill

[feeler]

Originally Posted by Bill Ryan

When I met Miriam a few days before the interview, I was instantly struck by her honesty and integrity, which shone through her in our private meeting. I felt a strong personal connection with her (as did Kerry from the very start, but that was the first time I had met her).

She's a strong presenter on camera, but this belies her sensitivity: after the cameras were turned off she was in tears for several minutes, such was the intensity of the previous couple of hours for her.

While those were private moments, it seems that for some that kind of outtake might have been valuable to help evaluate her sincerity and vulnerability.

The text describing the interview (before it was published) was written by me. Kerry had thought it might be a little too strongly worded. The reason I'm relating all this here is to share my own personal journey relative to Miriam's testimony: starting out doubtful and wondering where Kerry was going with this... and ending up paying extremely close attention to her story, which I continue to do. I'm delighted we met her and interviewed her and I am convinced her story is important.

Very best to all, Bill

We, the viewers, already got a boat-load of tears -during- the interview.

Now, after the interview, Miriam might have a sense of guilt after telling her lies (a possibility) in front of the camera.

Or Miriam might have a sense of inadequacy of her performance, knowing that she will have to report back to her USA/Russian Pys Op group (another possibility).

How do you know what triggered the tears?

Thanks for your attention Bill. Great to hear from you.

[rainman]

I have nothing left to say about Miriam...
Just wanted to thank Bill for, at least, trying to establish good communication with us!
And Bill... staying open-minded is one thing, but changing someone's mind is a VERY DIFFICULT task (even with hard evidence)... so interview like this one (with NO evidence at all, and tons of weaknesses) is too shallow to be considered as "mindchanger"!
== I've already mentioned few days ago that you MUST have some "fantastic" info on her (off the camera) that we can't swallow thru simple watching of this weak video...
but hey, what we can't see, we surely won't believe! Simple as that! ==

I have no tears to spare after this post
(this maybe sounds cynical, but hey, it was after the post so it' doesn't count!?)

I loved the Miriam Delicado interview. Its straight forward humble and informative message for the Ground crew. The message: Prepare yourself spiritually, mentally and physically. Amid all that is happening around us, take personal responsibility for everything you do. We do have help, from within and above.