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Old 09-15-2008, 07:06 AM   #1
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So you're effectively saying that the Nazis have won, when there are 8 military space stations, one of which was used to pulverize the WTC buildings.
There must be a lot of personnel involved in perpetrating (these) heinous acts. Why have none spoken out, bothered by their conscience ? Or have they been groomed and indoctrinated, believing that it's all for the greater good : unifying the planet, saving the human race, saving the planet, at all costs ?
Are compartmentalization, need to know and blindly following orders instead of conscience important factors in this ?
How's that military related to the 'regular' one ? Does it have its own command structure ? Who are in command ?
How far is their technology as biotech(clones fe), robots, androids, quantum computing are concerned ? Are the Borg far beside the truth ? Are personnel monitored, coerced by implants ? Are most still human as we know humans, at all ?
What about the scientists involved, aren't they deeply ashamed by now ? They must have understood by now that there's divinity, spirit underlying this and every other reality, if they're that far ahead.
Is there discontent or even the possibility of revolt among the ranks ?
Do you know of descendants of a previous earth civilization that are involved ?
How do ETs fit into this as regards involvement or influence, for the better maybe ?

Okay, a lot of questions, hope you can provide some more pieces of the puzzle.

Now it's back to personal life, as far as that's not affected by all that lunacy.
But it is, of course.
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Old 09-15-2008, 07:34 AM   #2
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Here are some live video snapshots of 911 as requested.
1. shows missile
2. shows same missile with holographic wing before impact.
3. shows dark grey military style plane with guiding light on building. This plane also showed signs of holographic trickery just a few seconds before the impact by changing the wing angles of the plane very quickly from tipping left to just opposite... tipping right.
4. shows same plane with mounted missile (or guiding system) on center of under belly.

I say both were guided missiles with holographic enhancements.
Or just holographic altogether combined with pre- planted explosives in towers etc.
I'm leaning logically toward all holographic.
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Old 09-15-2008, 08:21 AM   #3
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Here are some live video snapshots of 911 as requested.
1. shows missile
2. shows same missile with holographic wing before impact.
3. shows dark grey military style plane with guiding light on building. This plane also showed signs of holographic trickery just a few seconds before the impact by changing the wing angles of the plane very quickly from tipping left to just opposite... tipping right.
4. shows same plane with mounted missile (or guiding system) on center of under belly.

I say both were guided missiles with holographic enhancements.
Or just holographic altogether combined with pre- planted explosives in towers etc.
I'm leaning logically toward all holographic.


1-3 are very mysterious. 1st - no wings, 2nd - only one wing, very strange. But the 3rd is well known as the "pre-impact explosion" image.
But in the 4th image, the mounted missile could also been explained as a not retracted landing gear. Who knows which buttons they (the amateur Arab pilots) had pressed.



Could it not be that "someone" filled the tanks of the planes, or any other parts in the plane, with Thyrmite and then have let the Arabs make the job.
Conventional Thyrmite is a superfine powder.
That would explain why all 4 planes got totally incinerated.

I saw Dr. Stephen Jones making some experiments with Thyrmite on steel and aluminum. The only thing that remains are tiny steel/aluminum pellets.
And he also showed how the reaction is if steel meets aluminum with a great velocity - ignition. He said that this reaction would not last to ignite the kerosine.

But perhaps the Thyrmite which now, during the plane was penetrating the building, had direct contact to the steel structure.
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Old 09-15-2008, 08:29 AM   #4
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I don't believe there were any arabs involved.

I really found the point of impact very strange. Almost like the nose of whatever they were never really touched the building ever.
They just disappeared into it ... like a hologram would.



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Old 09-15-2008, 04:15 PM   #5
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1-3 are very mysterious. 1st - no wings, 2nd - only one wing, very strange. But the 3rd is well known as the "pre-impact explosion" image.
But in the 4th image, the mounted missile could also been explained as a not retracted landing gear. Who knows which buttons they (the amateur arab pilots) had pressed.



Could it not be that "someone" filled the tanks of the planes, or any other parts in the plane, with thyrmite and then have let the arabs make the job.
Conventional thyrmite is a superfine powder.
That would explain why all 4 planes got totally incinerated.

I saw dr. Stephen jones making some experiments with thyrmite on steel and aluminum. The only thing that remains are tiny steel/aluminum pellets.
And he also showed how the reaction is if steel meets aluminum with a great velocity - ignition. He said that this reaction would not last to ignite the kerosine.

But perhaps the thyrmite which now, during the plane was penetrating the building, had direct contact to the steel structure.
you can not be real !!!!! You sir, either have a not so clever agenda or are a complete horses **** !
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Old 09-15-2008, 04:36 PM   #6
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you can not be real !!!!! You sir, either have a not so clever agenda or are a complete horses **** !
Again I get badly insulted!

Thank you Sir Frank Conde for your kindness.



I don't understand why.
I just uttered a thought.

Another plausible explenation.




I like the idea of holograms, but before I consider that, I just try to find an easier explenation for it.
That is no reason to insult me that heavy.


But don't forget to state "THINK LOVE, THINK PEACE," under your posts, Sir Frank Conde, even if you always insult people!
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Old 09-15-2008, 01:13 PM   #7
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@JL

So you're effectively saying that the Nazis have won, when there are 8 military space stations, one of which was used to pulverize the WTC buildings.
There must be a lot of personnel involved in perpetrating (these) heinous acts. Why have none spoken out, bothered by their conscience ?
Same reason the Apollo astronauts haven't spoken out about the moon landing fraud.

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Or have they been groomed and indoctrinated, believing that it's all for the greater good : unifying the planet, saving the human race, saving the planet, at all costs ?
Nobody is going to save anybody else except you saving yourself.

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Are compartmentalization, need to know and blindly following orders instead of conscience important factors in this ?
Let me guess; you never had a security clearance?

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How's that military related to the 'regular' one ? Does it have its own command structure ? Who are in command ?
Its all one and the same.

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How far is their technology as biotech(clones fe), robots, androids, quantum computing are concerned?
Further than you could imagine.

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Are the Borg far beside the truth ?
I don't understand what you mean?

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Are personnel monitored, coerced by implants ?
Some are.

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Are most still human as we know humans, at all ?
Yes.

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What about the scientists involved, aren't they deeply ashamed by now ?
Not as much ashamed as really ****** off at the oppressive working conditions and secrecy. Most are completely cut off from family by the security measures. So they compensate by concentrating on their work.

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They must have understood by now that there's divinity, spirit underlying this and every other reality, if they're that far ahead.
What is divinity, spirit?

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Is there discontent or even the possibility of revolt among the ranks ?
There is much discontent. Revolt is unlikely.

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Do you know of descendants of a previous earth civilization that are involved ?
We are all descendents of a previous earth civilization.

[quote]How do ETs fit into this as regards involvement or influence, for the better maybe ?

Some good, some bad, some medium rare.

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Okay, a lot of questions, hope you can provide some more pieces of the puzzle.
For each piece of the puzzle you find there magically appears 10 more pieces.

For each question answered there are ten more questions.
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Old 09-15-2008, 02:54 PM   #8
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Borg...
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Startrek's the Borg, although basically having physical bodies, but where parts have been added or replaced by technology and communication is built in, no individual volition.

But your answer was most are human as we know humans, so my question is, are there beings similar to Borg, where biology has been married to technology in a godless way ?
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Old 09-15-2008, 03:46 PM   #9
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Startrek's the Borg, although basically having physical bodies, but where parts have been added or replaced by technology and communication is built in, no individual volition.

But your answer was most are human as we know humans, so my question is, are there beings similar to Borg, where biology has been married to technology in a godless way ?
No. We are souls looking and waiting to mature. Our bodies are just temporary containers. The soul is anchored to the body by the blood. When you die your soul goes to a new born baby and you continue your quest to live with integrity; and to live without envy, hate or greed.
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When you die your soul goes to a new born baby and you continue your quest to live with integrity; and to live without envy, hate or greed.
As the population increases, where do the new souls come from?
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Old 09-15-2008, 04:09 PM   #11
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To have Captain Lear here, answering ALL your questions with such
amazing clarity is the closest I have been to GOD.

I feel GOD is speaking trhu Captain John Lear, the next questions you
ask, should be bearing that concept IN MIND & SPIRIT !.

I also feel GOD is getting bored and that could be the worst mistake
we can ALL make at tis moment.

That also came from somewhere,not me.

I LOVE YOU ALL !

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As the population increases, where do the new souls come from?

The Great Soul Making Machine In Outer Space. Where else?
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Old 09-15-2008, 06:20 PM   #13
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Hi John!
Like so many, I'm a big fan of you! I've read and heard you talking extensively on a number of subjects. However, you have not elaborated so much on what kind of life you believe exist on the other planets - except Mars I think. Could you tell us some more, and how you know or why you believe this to be true??

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Hi John!
Like so many, I'm a big fan of you! I've read and heard you talking extensively on a number of subjects. However, you have not elaborated so much on what kind of life you believe exist on the other planets - except Mars I think. Could you tell us some more, and how you know or why you believe this to be true??

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There is life similar to ours on all planets and most of their moons and many, many space station/cities in the solar system. Many types look like humans many do not. So much is going on in our solar system, so much commerce, so much travel, so many activities by so many different types.

We are being fed downright unadulterated bs about all of our planets. The pictures you see of all planets are false. The pictures you are being fed and told are from Mars are from here on earth as were the photos from Pathfinder in 1997 which were taken in Death Valley.

The only gas giants in our solar system are NASA and its illegitimate son Jim Oberg, Chief Disinformation Officer (ret.)
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There is life similar to ours on all planets and most of their moons and many, many space station/cities in the solar system. Many types look like humans many do not. So much is going on in our solar system, so much commerce, so much travel, so many activities by so many different types.

We are being fed downright unadulterated bs about all of our planets. The pictures you see of all planets are false. The pictures you are being fed and told are from Mars are from here on earth as were the photos from Pathfinder in 1997 which were taken in Death Valley.

The only gas giants in our solar system are NASA and its illegitimate son Jim Oberg, Chief Disinformation Officer (ret.)
Thanks John for your input.
Interesting .. I remember sitting up and waiting to four o'clock in the morning, before the images from Pathfinder finally were shown on BBC live. Now you tell me they where from Death Valley.. I feel cheated!!

Life on Pluto - hard to swallow, but I guess you never know the way NASA 's farting dissinformation..

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Thanks John for your input.
Interesting .. I remember sitting up and waiting to four o'clock in the morning, before the images from Pathfinder finally were shown on BBC live. Now you tell me they where from Death Valley.. I feel cheated!!

Life on Pluto - hard to swallow, but I guess you never know the way NASA 's farting dissinformation..

Fred

See, what NASA doesn't tell you is that the Sun is an electromagnetic sphere. Its not a nuclear reactor or nuclear generator or anything nuclear. It does not radiate heat as such. Its not true that the farther the planets are away from the sun the colder they or or that the nearer the warmer. Thats bs. All planets have an atmosphere that filters the radiation of the electromagnetism and creates the proper temperature usually around 72 degrees F. Some are higher some are lower but here is no melting lead on Mercury or freezing polar bears on Pluto.
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Old 09-15-2008, 09:39 PM   #17
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That is a fair assessment, John.

Look at Mercury for an example of this. There is ice in the polar regions, in the bottom of craters. One would expect Mercury to be thermodynamic enough that, given its relative distance from the Sun, it would have boiled off all traces of water/ice LOOOOONG ago.

Many people say "Well, it just evaporates and reforms when the crater is in shadow". Ok...where does the water come from? Once it melts, one would expect it to sublimate into space, never for Mercury to see it again. Yet, it hasn't.

I also wonder if EM must be present for gravity? In other words, if Planet X wasn't a bunch of crap (or Nibiru), could it languish in relative obscurity until it became close enough to our Sun for it to gain enough gravity to effect other system bodies?
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Old 09-16-2008, 09:02 AM   #18
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I also wonder if EM must be present for gravity? In other words, if Planet X wasn't a bunch of crap (or Nibiru), could it languish in relative obscurity until it became close enough to our Sun for it to gain enough gravity to effect other system bodies?
Oh YOU WOULD toss something like that into the mix

Now we will HAVE to do the gravity thread
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I remember sitting up and waiting to four o'clock in the morning, before the images from Pathfinder finally were shown on BBC live. Now you tell me they where from Death Valley.. I feel cheated!!

Oh yes... and we have the proof ya know... from NASA itself...

Pathfinder was the Lander... Sojourner was the Rover

Here it is snooping around in Death Valley...



And that's not all...

Surveyor sitting on a Beach in California... sand is kinda reddish...





And here is Carl Sagan posing with the Viking Lander also taken in Death Valley...




And here is a lesson in ..

How to Fake a Martian Scene



In case your wondering where they parked the...

Lunar Excursion Module (LEM)

I spotted it under a tree...




You can see it on Google Earth +39 57' 27.87", -75 10' 24.54"




Also spotted THIS one... no idea who it belongs to though

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In case your wondering where they parked the...

Lunar Excursion Module (LEM)

I spotted it under a tree...




You can see it on Google Earth +39 57' 27.87", -75 10' 24.54"




Also spotted THIS one... no idea who it belongs to though


Really crazy that they parked the LEM in the middle of Philadelphia, right on the lawn. One would think that such important thing would be parked in a hangar or something similar. Just to conservate it, not exactely to hide it.

What about the last image? Where exactely can we find it? Coordinates?
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No way Thats a Secret

But I will give you the one parked on the runway...





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Really crazy that they parked the LEM in the middle of Philadelphia, right on the lawn. One would think that such important thing would be parked in a hangar or something similar. Just to conservate it, not exactely to hide it.

What about the last image? Where exactely can we find it? Coordinates?
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What about the last image? Where exactely can we find it? Coordinates?
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Coordinates are 45 42 11.79N 21 18 05.01E
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Coordinates are 45 42 11.79N 21 18 05.01E
I'd say it is a water tower. Look at the state of the vegetation immediately surrounding the coordinates vs the surrounding area. Looks like irrigation.
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Zorgon, you do know that the pics of the Mars Landers are of them in testing?
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I think Mr. Lear's a good guy with a sense of humour, and diff. bits of his info has fitted well in my jigsaw of what's what.
I think it's an impossibility in the current control structure for there to be widely held truth's that are not pre-programmed(note i typed 'widely held'), for it's just the way we are for truth is not un-connected facts but aspects of a holistic whole and barring mass. transformative change, there will be no shared well spring of un-manipulated mutual understanding. It is arrogant to think that reality can be grasped by fraud on any great scale is my POV.

I like John Lear's approach about the human soul being an experiment of superior beings, mayby at one point related to ruins on other planets was an understanding i got from something or rather. That would seem a logical extension of the creative power to me and i like the idea of the soul being a data bank of sorts that is built upon, puts the emphasis on an experience of life having value/purpose relating to the person's soul journey etc (i.e. gnostic/new age thought but with aliens in mix!)

Does John Lear have any opinion on telepathy, past/present or future?

I also go with probability of holograms/missiles for 9/11 for a few reasons or think that on right track.

Thanks.
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