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[Newliving]

Originally Posted by Angel of the Mists

Hello folks....

Just wanted to draw attention again to some of the words Ross posted in the wee small hours of this morning...

'I just know I don't want to spend my days living in fear. We're living in amazing times. We can choose to see only the collapse of the old and fear what that means, or we can choose to see that the collaspe of the old is the only way to make room for the new. I do get scared now and then but then I remember I'm choosing to be around the people who need me and not to run away. I beleive I personally am where I need to be at this time. There will always be something out there to make us potentially fearfull, and some of it may be true but I hope we can all follow our hearts and not our survival mechanisms.'

I really resonated with these words....and I think these are really powerful thoughts to hold within us....we do have choice regarding how we deal with and respond to any information, and of course we have 'feelngs and emotions' . But we are here for a reason, and with a job to do......that means being open to where we can be most useful, and then doing and being the very best ground crew we can be....don't let's waste any valuable time.

And thank you Ross....

Angel of the Mists

I agree, well said Ross. I've had the feeling for a long time that I should stay in the Stoke-on-Trent area to help in the coming times. My conscience wouldn't let me cut and run, and my heart definitely wants me to stay, having been born and grown up in this area and returned after 26 years away. Not that I have survivalist skills, nor a current leadership position (well, actually I do, but not in the council or other authorities - I do however have a respectable public profile) but knowing what I know I could reassure people plus help to give the authorities some guidance about the scale of what to expect over the next few years. I started doing that over two years ago, and laid down some markers then. Knowledge carries its own responsibility, someone once told me, and it sounds right to me.

[Alysse]

In response to Ross' post, I must say that I am exactly in the same place with regards all this, right along with several others who have commented on your post. We've got to "hold that thought" and remain committed to be the part of the solution rather than part of the problem. Well said and thanks.

[Swanny]

Just back from tescos buying supplies, noticed the girl on the checkout had a cold, oh well the flu has contaminated my supplies already, guess I'll be off early then
See you all on the other side

[Ampgod]

Originally Posted by Newliving

I agree, well said Ross. I've had the feeling for a long time that I should stay in the Stoke-on-Trent area to help in the coming times. My conscience wouldn't let me cut and run, and my heart definitely wants me to stay, having been born and grown up in this area and returned after 26 years away. Not that I have survivalist skills, nor a current leadership position (well, actually I do, but not in the council or other authorities - I do however have a respectable public profile) but knowing what I know I could reassure people plus help to give the authorities some guidance about the scale of what to expect over the next few years. I started doing that over two years ago, and laid down some markers then. Knowledge carries its own responsibility, someone once told me, and it sounds right to me.

Humm,

Ok. So ... have you made your mind up?
Just for kicks let's say you hear on the news that there are missiles ready to strike your town at any moment and war is definitely a reality. Will you move or still feel you have a duty to stay and die?

It is my opinion that deciding to stay where you are now is close minded.
I, personally, will stay open and see where things go.
I will make a decision based on my current reality at that time.
I will also prepare according to what is happening right now and adjust with that as time moves forward.

Just my take on this.

Peace,
Ampgod

[Newliving]

Originally Posted by Ampgod

Humm,

Ok. So ... have you made your mind up?
Just for kicks let's say you hear on the news that there are missiles ready to strike your town at any moment and war is definitely a reality. Will you move or still feel you have a duty to stay and die?

It is my opinion that deciding to stay where you are now is close minded.
I, personally, will stay open and see where things go.
I will make a decision based on my current reality at that time.
I will also prepare according to what is happening right now and adjust with that as time moves forward.

Just my take on this.

Peace,
Ampgod

It's easy for me to say this before things get to the point of crisis, but I feel that I wouldn't act to save myself and leave others to their own fate. I'd want to help everyone else, or at least those within my sphere of potentially effective action. I've lived my life in service to others, not primarily for moral or ethical reasons but because I prefer living that way. I find it more enjoyable and fulfilling.

I feel that Stoke-on-Trent, perhaps including the wider region of North Staffordshire, is the area I should remain in to assist. Stoke-on-Trent could well be a safe place to be, as it's fairly high and has good countryside around for food and water. And many of the people here are multi-generational local people who are totally committed to the area, with a strong sense of community. They deserve good organisers who have their best interests at heart and are prepared to give all. At the present time I'm doing that, but at the same time I'm also working in a wider sphere, even internationally through the internet, contributing what I can to discussion forums, hosting websites and working more directly with others in various initiatives. I would help to organise regional or even national get-togethers of members of this forum, for example.

That much seems realistic for me to do, now and in the foreseeable future depending on the resources that will be available. If I were to move elsewhere, it would be much more difficult to link up with others in an effective way, and I might even end up on my own - no thanks! Here, I know the area and I'm known to others.

Some on this forum talk in terms of banding together and moving somewhere safe. I'd rather feel that we were banding together to help others in unsafe areas, at least through the worst of times that some see ahead. For me, it would be more effective to band together with a few good people in our local known area where we're known.

And regarding dying, I don't think dying is the end of it. I think it's just another death of body along the way, and the next stage of the journey will be enhanced by spending the rest of this life in selfless service to others. Again, it's easy for me to say this sort of thing because I don't have anyone close enough to hold me back, though come the time and I'll discover really how much I'm oriented to selfless service.

Since you ask, I can't say I've made my mind up, but as you say yourself, what I've just said is just my take on this - at least for now.

Originally Posted by Newliving

It's easy for me to say this before things get to the point of crisis, but I feel that I wouldn't act to save myself and leave others to their own fate. I'd want to help everyone else, or at least those within my sphere of potentially effective action. I've lived my life in service to others, not primarily for moral or ethical reasons but because I prefer living that way. I find it more enjoyable and fulfilling.

I feel that Stoke-on-Trent, perhaps including the wider region of North Staffordshire, is the area I should remain in to assist. Stoke-on-Trent could well be a safe place to be, as it's fairly high and has good countryside around for food and water. And many of the people here are multi-generational local people who are totally committed to the area, with a strong sense of community. They deserve good organisers who have their best interests at heart and are prepared to give all. At the present time I'm doing that, but at the same time I'm also working in a wider sphere, even internationally through the internet, contributing what I can to discussion forums, hosting websites and working more directly with others in various initiatives. I would help to organise regional or even national get-togethers of members of this forum, for example.

That much seems realistic for me to do, now and in the foreseeable future depending on the resources that will be available. If I were to move elsewhere, it would be much more difficult to link up with others in an effective way, and I might even end up on my own - no thanks! Here, I know the area and I'm known to others.

Some on this forum talk in terms of banding together and moving somewhere safe. I'd rather feel that we were banding together to help others in unsafe areas, at least through the worst of times that some see ahead. For me, it would be more effective to band together with a few good people in our local known area where we're known.

And regarding dying, I don't think dying is the end of it. I think it's just another death of body along the way, and the next stage of the journey will be enhanced by spending the rest of this life in selfless service to others. Again, it's easy for me to say this sort of thing because I don't have anyone close enough to hold me back, though come the time and I'll discover really how much I'm oriented to selfless service.

Since you ask, I can't say I've made my mind up, but as you say yourself, what I've just said is just my take on this - at least for now.

hi im new to the forums and im glad to be here
i just hope we have lots of people like you around when the SHTF
best regards
jay