A "Whistle Blower" open letter to Bill and Kerry, and the forum.

10-04-2008, 06:56 PM

I believe there can be Time Travel.
Why do I believe that?

For one Linear time is an illusion. It is a 3D dimensional thing.
Time is not the same in other dimensions.
Everything happens at the same 'time'.
We just do not perceive that in this 3rd dimension.

We can travel 'In Time' when we dream, project, OBEs, etc.
That does not mean we can affect time. We can observe different times though.

Now is there a device that can affect time? I really do not know.
I have read about such devices. I have read when time is affected then it simply creates another 'Time Line'.
That makes sense to me to a point.
Then again I do not have any hard evidence...

gazbom · 10-04-2008, 07:15 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Old Dood

I believe there can be Time Travel.
Why do I believe that?

For one Linear time is an illusion. It is a 3D dimensional thing.
Time is not the same in other dimensions.
Everything happens at the same 'time'.
We just do not perceive that in this 3rd dimension.

We can travel 'In Time' when we dream, project, OBEs, etc.
That does not mean we can affect time. We can observe different times though.

Now is there a device that can affect time? I really do not know.
I have read about such devices. I have read when time is affected then it

simply creates another 'Time Line'.
That makes sense to me to a point.
Then again I do not have any hard evidence...

Old Dood, It's obvious, time travel doesn't exsist, why, because no body ever came back to introduce themselves, and one group or another, would have wiped us out by now to gain domination.

ctophil · 10-04-2008, 07:43 PM

Good afternoon, Norval

I hope you are having a nice Sabbath. I also observe the 7th day rest as explained in the old AND new testaments of the Bible. Your observations of the Bible is so far very similar to what I believe. Now from my understanding, we just entered the "Great Tribulation" this month, and we are about to go into a time period of great destruction, sorrow, and death as described in perfect detail in the Bible. Do you agree? Then after this time period of 3 1/2 years (plus a couple of months), we will enter into a new age. And you are right about the small remnant of people that are chosen to be the new government of this world for the new age. People here say that you are a "whistleblower." But are you
an Israelite (Seed of Abraham and child of Yahweh Elohim) and just trying not to be spiritual; because this is not a spiritual forum? Are you also awaiting the second coming of Yahushua? Thanks, I just wanted to clarify that information.

-Phillip

ctophil · 10-04-2008, 07:46 PM

Oh, I forgot to answer Norval's question from an earlier post in this thread. I believe that the priest who never retires is the High Priest. There are regular priests and then there is the High Priest. Sorry to say, but it's not the Pope. And if you guys want to know who it is...just read my previous post about the second coming.

-Phillip

Swamisalami · 10-04-2008, 07:53 PM

What about this guy.......

http://www.johntitor.com/

Click left "John Titor story"

Norval · 10-04-2008, 07:56 PM

In answer to some PMs.

Which bible? Many online computer bibles are great.

hahaha! maybe bill n kerry should be interviewing you........!!!

The Gathering, , , Some of that is over in Camelot in the books, videos area.

Rustanddust got it. - who/what is Melchizedek? A priest that never retires.

is this worth chasing and researching after?
In my honest opinion, Yes, truth is worth it.

Swamisalami · 10-04-2008, 07:57 PM

Whoops, its about timetravel....

10-04-2008, 08:02 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ctophil

Oh, I forgot to answer Norval's question from an earlier post in this thread. I believe that the priest who never retires is the High Priest. There are regular priests and then there is the High Priest. Sorry to say, but it's not the Pope. And if you guys want to know who it is...just read my previous post about the second coming.

-Phillip

What religion is this anyway? High priest?

10-04-2008, 08:06 PM

Norval,
Why are you refusing to answer my question?
I understand everything about the order of Melchizedek and Mary Eddy Baker.
Apparently, there is no point in discussing anything with you because your belief system says that you are superior.

jaby · 10-04-2008, 08:08 PM

Give him chance...it's only been 4 minutes...lol.

edit to say....if it was your question in #43.

freeze · 10-04-2008, 08:22 PM

Norval

I have been reading some of your posts recently and I find them facinating ... I am not religious myself but have been searching for answers all my life. I stumbled across " The Kolbrin" years ago ... it is supposedly where the other religions and stories may have come from. If you have any knowledge on "The Kolbrin" it would be much appreciated .... the only thing I could find pertaining to it is at this website.

http://www.culdiantrust.org/

I have heard it discussed in length a few years ago on "Mysteries of the Mind" an internet show with Alex Merklinger with guest James Mccanney and have heard very little about it since. I cant access the shows archives to re listen to the show as the website is still up even though he has stopped broadcasting for years.

If anyone else has info on "The Kolbrin" it would be much appreciated..

Swamisalami · 10-04-2008, 08:41 PM

Hi Norval,

What's your opinion about "The Urantia Book".

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Urantia_Book

Does it fit your way of thinking or do you see it as disinfo?

Norval · 10-04-2008, 08:43 PM

, , , another book?

, , , another book.

I am having enough fun just talking about the bible, thanks, LOL

It is the Sabbath, so I am off of here till later.
Keep looking up, ,
and reading the book. The bible.

Norval

Norval · 10-04-2008, 08:18 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Alexandra

Norval,
Why are you refusing to answer my question?

I am just allowing you your right to beliefs as to how you see things.

Norval

Priest;
Instead of a religious possition, think of it as a possition in the Monarchy called the Kingdom of the Heavens, or Galaxies. Simple really.

10-04-2008, 08:41 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Norval

I am just allowing you your right to beliefs as to how you see things.

Norval

Priest;
Instead of a religious possition, think of it as a possition in the Monarchy called the Kingdom of the Heavens, or Galaxies. Simple really.

Norval I do not believe in religions. They are hive mind control systems, in my opinion, of course. I am familiar with the cosmic hierarchy and all of it's councils. I also know that they do not promote superiority unless they are in service to self portions of this galaxy. When one has all of the answers there is no longer a need to be here to learn. Therefore, since you are still on this planet, I gather you are still a student. Good speed on your journey to the Creator of all that is not just the Order of Melchizedek.

ctophil · 10-04-2008, 09:02 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Alexandra

Norval I do not believe in religions. They are hive mind control systems, in my opinion, of course. I am familiar with the cosmic hierarchy and all of it's councils. I also know that they do not promote superiority unless they are in service to self portions of this galaxy. When one has all of the answers there is no longer a need to be here to learn. Therefore, since you are still on this planet, I gather you are still a student. Good speed on your journey to the Creator of all that is not just the Order of Melchizedek.

Alexandra,

You certainly have a point there. All of us must humble ourselves before Elohim. If we feel that we should be superior than others, then you just stumbled and hurt yourself. Remember that the least in the Kingdom of Heaven will be called the greatest, while the greatest will be called the least.

-Phillip

10-04-2008, 09:22 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ctophil

Alexandra,

You certainly have a point there. All of us must humble ourselves before Elohim. If we feel that we should be superior than others, then you just stumbled and hurt yourself. Remember that the least in the Kingdom of Heaven will be called the greatest, while the greatest will be called the least.

-Phillip

Please explain what you mean? I didn't stumble or anything. what are you talking about?

ctophil · 10-04-2008, 09:45 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Alexandra

Please explain what you mean? I didn't stumble or anything. what are you talking about?

Hi Alexandra,

I wasn't referring directly about you. I was further explaining about the superiority concept you pointed out to Norval. I was just saying that if you believe that you are superior than others in this world, then you are actually hurting yourself. We must all humble ourselves before the Creator will open up to you. Just like these powerful bloodlines who believe they are totally superior to us and want to rule all of us. What does this get them? Does it matter if you have the whole world but end up losing your soul in the end? Hope that helps!

-Phillip

paul1980 · 10-04-2008, 09:36 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ctophil

Alexandra,

You certainly have a point there. All of us must humble ourselves before Elohim. If we feel that we should be superior than others, then you just stumbled and hurt yourself. Remember that the least in the Kingdom of Heaven will be called the greatest, while the greatest will be called the least.

-Phillip

Ah, the famous system of politics, it is a message of revenge and power.

My view,
There are no greatest, there are no least, we all have the same value, we are only different right here and now in how we view things and how we know ourselves.

Being angry is not knowing oneself, being angry is demonstrating the lack of selfknowledge.
We are all equal, there is not need to humble.

ctophil · 10-04-2008, 08:18 PM

Alexandra,

To clear things up, the High Priest I was referring to is Yahushua who is the High Priest after the order of Melchizedek. This is not a religion. All religions are manmade...designed to confuse people. Yes, there are some truths in some religions, but are very few. Mostly of the stuff in religions are disinformation. I'm a child of the Most High (YHWH, this is the true spelling of His name transliterated from Hebrew). If you read the book of Psalms, it does say "Yah" ("Jah" in the King James) in there. That's the first part of His true name.

-Phillip

paul1980 · 10-04-2008, 08:37 PM

To Norval and Gale, and anyone else who is reading this:
This is not going to be a question, and it is not meant as a comment or debunk, it just represents my view of things today, i welcome any corrections, and all please feel free to be yourself on this one.

As when i have read many forums i always have seen the following occur, 1: Message, 2: ask for proof 3: after a while it is no longer about a message, it has become a conflict, devided into a few camps namely, the followers, the critics, the distancemakers (yes new word), the supporters, and the readers, and a few others.
Normally i like to be a reader. And sometimes i am a needed, that means i have an issue that i need to be lit by different opinions so that i can find my own way in my discovery of myself and my surroundings, such as this one.

Ok, here goes.

There is one thing and one thing alone that we must never forget, even with all the knowledge provided we must learn to create our own vision of understanding. eg. do you like ice because you learned it is nice or do you know what you want. or another one: if you believe strongly enough that you are sick, then you will be sick. Decide if you want to be projected upon.

We all function within our given parameters, by knowing your own parameters, you can use them, and (de) activate them.
Is a final battle interesting when you already know yourself? do you think the one who controles food really can control the masses when masses know who masses are? When everyone would know the real truth do you think that there is a fight?
Dark and light are only words to keep people in place, between words as in the bible or qran or any other holy book, the only thing that i have read is that we are all equal, and when we know ourselves and have faith in ourselves, the great devide stops and becomes one.
Is it important to know where we came from?, is that a part of who i am? i know where i came from, i am made of the same, "lets say particles", as all that is around me, therefore that makes me equal, therefore that makes me one, what holds us back is fear, and lack of understanding, we do refuse to understand because we fear. (as do i)

What will happen around us, with our limited knowledge of ourselves and therefore our limited knowledge of all that is around, that will happen, until we know better.
There is no balance, there just "is".

Anyway, It is only a good thing that we can learn more and more to help each other pushing along the way of waking up, i love to see people helping each other, i love to be helped, and i love to help.

just keep in mind, we can help each other, but not become each other.

10-04-2008, 09:09 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by gazbom

Old Dood, It's obvious, time travel doesn't exsist, why, because no body ever came back to introduce themselves, and one group or another, would have wiped us out by now to gain domination.

That is where Time Lines come into play....
You cannot 'Go back' then change something then 'Come back' here to this time line.

Carol · 10-06-2008, 05:24 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by gazbom

Old Dood, It's obvious, time travel doesn't exsist, why, because no body ever came back to introduce themselves, and one group or another, would have wiped us out by now to gain domination.

Aloha gazbom,

I've been reading over this thread and your posts tend to exhibit a pattern of disrespect toward anyone who disagrees with your point of view. I for one know that time travel exists. I also know there are bases on the moon. I've read unpublished interviews of the insiders as I edit these documents for future publishing.

Not all of Norvals assumptions are accurate which is okay. If he were to have access to some of the info I've seen I suspect his opinion would change. I also know there are multiple timelines and that it has been altered and have proof, which is also unpublished information from top level military sources.

Each person here is to be respected and not dissed just because there is a difference in opinion. Please follow the spirit and guidelines of Avalon.

Mahalo,

Carol

Norval · 10-06-2008, 06:24 AM

My wife went through the roof at your post Carol, but me, well, I just became indignant.
Mine is Queens Clearance, what's yours? (Queens Clearance gives the ok to know what ever is
requested within ones research parameters.) Because of my research, and it's bearing on the
survivability of the human race, I am afforded Diplomatic Immunity, and yours? How many
presidential advisors have requested a meeting with you? The smoking gun was the fact that NO
ONE asked me about what it was that I was researching when I answered those questions at the
TOP SECRET government think tank at a top university. What? You weren't reading ALL my
posts? Do you really think I am here for my ego, get real.

This BS stops here. How dare you come off on Gaz for such a small slight when there are far
greater problems in this thread. You are exposed for what you are. Respect? Go to H. My
momma taught me to earn respect, guess yours didn't. Obviously.

Assumptions? These investigations of mine were of such great interest to your freaking
government that they spent $270,000.00 for the fiscal year of 1993 on surveillance of me. And
your point?

Here is the bottom line.

I will continue to post at Camelot and Avalon if you are removed as a moderator.

P.S. This served me well to KNOW that there are "others" out there that KNOW, just as we do.

Bill and Kerry, it is your forum, what say you? One answer of me being here says you are for
real, the other says you are "agents, and sold all the real truth seekers out.

What say you?

Norval L. Cunningham
Gale Smart
, , , and many others, , ,

Norval · 10-06-2008, 07:00 AM

To Carol, Bill, Kerry, and the forum

Quote:

Originally Posted by Norval

My wife went through the roof at your post Carol, but me, well, I just became indignant.
Mine is Queens Clearance, what's yours? (Queens Clearance gives the ok to know what ever is
requested within ones research parameters.) Because of my research, and it's bearing on the
survivability of the human race, I am afforded Diplomatic Immunity, and yours? How many
presidential advisors have requested a meeting with you? The smoking gun was the fact that NO
ONE asked me about what it was that I was researching when I answered those questions at the
TOP SECRET government think tank at a top university. What? You weren't reading ALL my
posts? Do you really think I am here for my ego, get real.

This BS stops here. How dare you come off on Gaz for such a small slight when there are far
greater problems in this thread. You are exposed for what you are. Respect? Go to H. My
momma taught me to earn respect, guess yours didn't. Obviously.

Assumptions? These investigations of mine were of such great interest to your freaking
government that they spent $270,000.00 for the fiscal year of 1993 on surveillance of me. And
your point?

Here is the bottom line.

I will continue to post at Camelot and Avalon if you are removed as a moderator.

P.S. This served me well to KNOW that there are "others" out there that KNOW, just as we do.

Bill and Kerry, it is your forum, what say you? One answer of me being here says you are for
real, the other says you are "agents, and sold all the real truth seekers out.

What say you?

Norval L. Cunningham
Gale Smart
, , , and many others, , ,

10-04-2008, 06:56 PM	#1
Stephen Guest Posts: n/a	Re: A "Whistle Blower" open letter to Bill and Kerry, and the forum. I believe there can be Time Travel. Why do I believe that? For one Linear time is an illusion. It is a 3D dimensional thing. Time is not the same in other dimensions. Everything happens at the same 'time'. We just do not perceive that in this 3rd dimension. We can travel 'In Time' when we dream, project, OBEs, etc. That does not mean we can affect time. We can observe different times though. Now is there a device that can affect time? I really do not know. I have read about such devices. I have read when time is affected then it simply creates another 'Time Line'. That makes sense to me to a point. Then again I do not have any hard evidence...

10-04-2008, 07:43 PM	#3
ctophil Avalon Senior Member Join Date: Sep 2008 Location: USA - Augusta, GA Posts: 141	Re: A "Whistle Blower" open letter to Bill and Kerry, and the forum. Good afternoon, Norval I hope you are having a nice Sabbath. I also observe the 7th day rest as explained in the old AND new testaments of the Bible. Your observations of the Bible is so far very similar to what I believe. Now from my understanding, we just entered the "Great Tribulation" this month, and we are about to go into a time period of great destruction, sorrow, and death as described in perfect detail in the Bible. Do you agree? Then after this time period of 3 1/2 years (plus a couple of months), we will enter into a new age. And you are right about the small remnant of people that are chosen to be the new government of this world for the new age. People here say that you are a "whistleblower." But are you an Israelite (Seed of Abraham and child of Yahweh Elohim) and just trying not to be spiritual; because this is not a spiritual forum? Are you also awaiting the second coming of Yahushua? Thanks, I just wanted to clarify that information. -Phillip

10-04-2008, 07:53 PM	#5
Swamisalami Banned Join Date: Sep 2008 Posts: 158	Re: A "Whistle Blower" open letter to Bill and Kerry, and the forum. What about this guy....... http://www.johntitor.com/ Click left "John Titor story"

10-04-2008, 07:56 PM	#6
Norval Banned Join Date: Sep 2008 Location: On a boat in Tacoma, wa, usa Posts: 394	Re: A "Whistle Blower" open letter to Bill and Kerry, and the forum. In answer to some PMs. Which bible? Many online computer bibles are great. hahaha! maybe bill n kerry should be interviewing you........!!! The Gathering, , , Some of that is over in Camelot in the books, videos area. Rustanddust got it. - who/what is Melchizedek? A priest that never retires. is this worth chasing and researching after? In my honest opinion, Yes, truth is worth it.

10-04-2008, 07:57 PM	#7
Swamisalami Banned Join Date: Sep 2008 Posts: 158	Re: A "Whistle Blower" open letter to Bill and Kerry, and the forum. Whoops, its about timetravel....

10-04-2008, 07:46 PM	#4
ctophil Avalon Senior Member Join Date: Sep 2008 Location: USA - Augusta, GA Posts: 141	Re: A "Whistle Blower" open letter to Bill and Kerry, and the forum. Oh, I forgot to answer Norval's question from an earlier post in this thread. I believe that the priest who never retires is the High Priest. There are regular priests and then there is the High Priest. Sorry to say, but it's not the Pope. And if you guys want to know who it is...just read my previous post about the second coming. -Phillip

10-04-2008, 08:06 PM	#9
Alexandra Guest Posts: n/a	Re: A "Whistle Blower" open letter to Bill and Kerry, and the forum. Norval, Why are you refusing to answer my question? I understand everything about the order of Melchizedek and Mary Eddy Baker. Apparently, there is no point in discussing anything with you because your belief system says that you are superior. Last edited by Alexandra; 10-04-2008 at 08:33 PM.

10-04-2008, 08:08 PM	#10
jaby Avalon Senior Member Join Date: Sep 2008 Location: england Posts: 254	Re: A "Whistle Blower" open letter to Bill and Kerry, and the forum. Give him chance...it's only been 4 minutes...lol. edit to say....if it was your question in #43.

10-04-2008, 08:22 PM	#11
freeze Avalon Senior Member Join Date: Sep 2008 Location: Burlington Posts: 13	Re: A "Whistle Blower" open letter to Bill and Kerry, and the forum. Norval I have been reading some of your posts recently and I find them facinating ... I am not religious myself but have been searching for answers all my life. I stumbled across " The Kolbrin" years ago ... it is supposedly where the other religions and stories may have come from. If you have any knowledge on "The Kolbrin" it would be much appreciated .... the only thing I could find pertaining to it is at this website. http://www.culdiantrust.org/ I have heard it discussed in length a few years ago on "Mysteries of the Mind" an internet show with Alex Merklinger with guest James Mccanney and have heard very little about it since. I cant access the shows archives to re listen to the show as the website is still up even though he has stopped broadcasting for years. If anyone else has info on "The Kolbrin" it would be much appreciated..

10-04-2008, 08:41 PM	#12
Swamisalami Banned Join Date: Sep 2008 Posts: 158	Re: A "Whistle Blower" open letter to Bill and Kerry, and the forum. Hi Norval, What's your opinion about "The Urantia Book". http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Urantia_Book Does it fit your way of thinking or do you see it as disinfo?

10-04-2008, 08:43 PM	#13
Norval Banned Join Date: Sep 2008 Location: On a boat in Tacoma, wa, usa Posts: 394	Re: A "Whistle Blower" open letter to Bill and Kerry, and the forum. , , , another book? , , , another book. I am having enough fun just talking about the bible, thanks, LOL It is the Sabbath, so I am off of here till later. Keep looking up, , and reading the book. The bible. Norval Last edited by Norval; 10-04-2008 at 08:45 PM.

10-04-2008, 08:18 PM	#20
ctophil Avalon Senior Member Join Date: Sep 2008 Location: USA - Augusta, GA Posts: 141	Re: A "Whistle Blower" open letter to Bill and Kerry, and the forum. Alexandra, To clear things up, the High Priest I was referring to is Yahushua who is the High Priest after the order of Melchizedek. This is not a religion. All religions are manmade...designed to confuse people. Yes, there are some truths in some religions, but are very few. Mostly of the stuff in religions are disinformation. I'm a child of the Most High (YHWH, this is the true spelling of His name transliterated from Hebrew). If you read the book of Psalms, it does say "Yah" ("Jah" in the King James) in there. That's the first part of His true name. -Phillip

10-04-2008, 08:37 PM	#21
paul1980 Avalon Senior Member Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: Netherlands Posts: 14	Re: A "Whistle Blower" open letter to Bill and Kerry, and the forum. To Norval and Gale, and anyone else who is reading this: This is not going to be a question, and it is not meant as a comment or debunk, it just represents my view of things today, i welcome any corrections, and all please feel free to be yourself on this one. As when i have read many forums i always have seen the following occur, 1: Message, 2: ask for proof 3: after a while it is no longer about a message, it has become a conflict, devided into a few camps namely, the followers, the critics, the distancemakers (yes new word), the supporters, and the readers, and a few others. Normally i like to be a reader. And sometimes i am a needed, that means i have an issue that i need to be lit by different opinions so that i can find my own way in my discovery of myself and my surroundings, such as this one. Ok, here goes. There is one thing and one thing alone that we must never forget, even with all the knowledge provided we must learn to create our own vision of understanding. eg. do you like ice because you learned it is nice or do you know what you want. or another one: if you believe strongly enough that you are sick, then you will be sick. Decide if you want to be projected upon. We all function within our given parameters, by knowing your own parameters, you can use them, and (de) activate them. Is a final battle interesting when you already know yourself? do you think the one who controles food really can control the masses when masses know who masses are? When everyone would know the real truth do you think that there is a fight? Dark and light are only words to keep people in place, between words as in the bible or qran or any other holy book, the only thing that i have read is that we are all equal, and when we know ourselves and have faith in ourselves, the great devide stops and becomes one. Is it important to know where we came from?, is that a part of who i am? i know where i came from, i am made of the same, "lets say particles", as all that is around me, therefore that makes me equal, therefore that makes me one, what holds us back is fear, and lack of understanding, we do refuse to understand because we fear. (as do i) What will happen around us, with our limited knowledge of ourselves and therefore our limited knowledge of all that is around, that will happen, until we know better. There is no balance, there just "is". Anyway, It is only a good thing that we can learn more and more to help each other pushing along the way of waking up, i love to see people helping each other, i love to be helped, and i love to help. just keep in mind, we can help each other, but not become each other.

10-06-2008, 06:24 AM	#24
Norval Banned Join Date: Sep 2008 Location: On a boat in Tacoma, wa, usa Posts: 394	Re: A "Whistle Blower" open letter to Bill and Kerry, and the forum. My wife went through the roof at your post Carol, but me, well, I just became indignant. Mine is Queens Clearance, what's yours? (Queens Clearance gives the ok to know what ever is requested within ones research parameters.) Because of my research, and it's bearing on the survivability of the human race, I am afforded Diplomatic Immunity, and yours? How many presidential advisors have requested a meeting with you? The smoking gun was the fact that NO ONE asked me about what it was that I was researching when I answered those questions at the TOP SECRET government think tank at a top university. What? You weren't reading ALL my posts? Do you really think I am here for my ego, get real. This BS stops here. How dare you come off on Gaz for such a small slight when there are far greater problems in this thread. You are exposed for what you are. Respect? Go to H. My momma taught me to earn respect, guess yours didn't. Obviously. Assumptions? These investigations of mine were of such great interest to your freaking government that they spent $270,000.00 for the fiscal year of 1993 on surveillance of me. And your point? Here is the bottom line. I will continue to post at Camelot and Avalon if you are removed as a moderator. P.S. This served me well to KNOW that there are "others" out there that KNOW, just as we do. Bill and Kerry, it is your forum, what say you? One answer of me being here says you are for real, the other says you are "agents, and sold all the real truth seekers out. What say you? Norval L. Cunningham Gale Smart , , , and many others, , ,