Zeitgeist: Project Venus Pioneers

[RaKaR]

Yes, Member Kelle Baley, i do feel the truth about Venus and its Way of project-ive solutions.

Isn't gathering and critically examining information( both intuitively and by way of contre-checking); building Sound Communities upon shared views and values and drawing plans in order to move forward, upon Rationality, Faisability and Harmony with Nature and Mother earth the True Essence of Project Avalon?

Regards,

RakaR
www.futureofmankind.co.uk

[Peer]

Hai rakar, zet mij ook maar op de lijst.

It is a great relief to read all those ideas I've been having since the early seventies on the internet now.
I am finally convinced I am not crazy but the system is.
Just as I thought.
Can't wait till the whole verdomde (glad there is no dutch filtering) structure finally collapses so we can start something new that benefits the whole of humanity instead of a few rich.
Let's go for it.

[RaKaR]

Originally Posted by Peer

Hai rakar, zet mij ook maar op de lijst.

It is a great relief to read all those ideas I've been having since the early seventies on the internet now.
I am finally convinced I am not crazy but the system is.
Just as I thought.
Can't wait till the whole verdomde (glad there is no dutch filtering) structure finally collapses so we can start something new that benefits the whole of humanity instead of a few rich.
Let's go for it.

Hoi, Pioneer Peer!( Wat klinkt dit toch goed!)

Tis gedaan, U staat er al keurig op - ik heb Oranje-Ijsland(1-0,) verlaten om dit hoogst Geestelijke Moment direct mee te kunnen maken.

Hartstikke welkom aan boord; het is een Grote Eer U erbij te hebben.

See you then at the thread 'What we are supposed to do' by Xammy(in section 'General Discussion' for updates en practical steps.

Your contribution would be highly appreciated.

Hup in Vrede!

RaKaR
www.futureofmankind.co.uk

PS:"I am finally convinced I am not crazy but the system is.
Just as I thought.": bekend gevoel.

[Kelle Baley]

Originally Posted by RaKaR

Yes, Member Kelle Baley, i do feel the truth about Venus and its Way of project-ive solutions.

Isn't gathering and critically examining information( both intuitively and by way of contre-checking); building Sound Communities upon shared views and values and drawing plans in order to move forward, upon Rationality, Faisability and Harmony with Nature and Mother earth the True Essence of Project Avalon?

Regards,

RakaR
www.futureofmankind.co.uk

Yes, RaKaR -I am now gathering, and critically examining for this purpose as it is eminently going to be needed. I see the islands of light even now in our soon future but this one should not be erected.

I am still waiting for my own inner feeling about this grouping change. I purposely am asked to attune no further than what I have nor say much else than the following publicly. In private, I am at your service as I am not a doomsday seer. I am with path correction upon the Golden one.

Here is what exactly I hear-
"It has been handed to another source whom on the surface seems to fit nicely"

I hope that I am wrong and you all will later inform me of your personal joy from this community's divine and inspiring ways that support the entirety of what is says it aims to do.

With inner messaging such as the one above, I could never consider the endeavor as Golden to support by personal consent and I am sure about my choice.

[RaKaR]

Hi, Member Kelle Baley,

Thanks for your insights and your tact.
I would appreciate any further elaboration in any way which suits you and the circumstances.

Regards,

RaKaR
www.futureofmankind.co.uk

[RaKaR]

Originally Posted by RaKaR

Hi, Member Kelle Baley,

Thanks for your insights and your tact.
I would appreciate any further elaboration in any way which suits you and the circumstances.

Regards,

RaKaR
www.futureofmankind.co.uk

Member Kelle Baley,

You gave no answer to my question.
For the sake of transparency:

Originally Posted by Kelle Baley

anything beneath this, no.

i would be pleased to exchange information which could benefit us all. I hope you understand my resignation to your friend request until I know you better.

I am absolutely in appreciation for all as we are ALL of us family. I am, however, unfavorable toward exchange with you that is in absolution toward the goal of supporting Venus project. I will, however open up to have a private conversation with you at any time in regards to your involvement. How are you involved and who is the founder? Have you been employed in anyway toward this project?

sincerely

You good right, Member Kelle Baley.

You could find all answers to all your questions by taking the time to go through three of the threads dedicated to the study of 'Zeitgeist: Addendum/Project Venus' on the forum, namely 'Zeitgeist- interactive'; 'What we are supposed to do' and the one, by which i got the honor to interact with you.

Would you mind if i post this message on the main page?



Peace and Wisdom.

RaKaR
www.futureofmankind.co.uk

[Kelle Baley]

[QUOTE=RaKaR;47766]Hi, Member Kelle Baley,

Thanks for your insights and your tact.
I would appreciate any further elaboration in any way which suits you and the circumstances.

Regards,

RaKaR
It is REALLY obvious that by your next few postings having quoted my own private responses to you that you have an AGENDA here to put those of us with a sincere intent to further your profile as appearing in some type of false command.

WHY WOULD YOU POST MY PRIVATE RESPONSES TO YOU IN VIEW OF THE PUBLIC WITHOUT my permission????

Everyone who is reading my words; Know that Rakar is personally exploiting the comradeship of this thread for purposes which are not civil.

I had a private conversation with Rakar and did not respond to his request to display our conversation publicly, yet as you can clearly see he has done all on his own. Wow. THis level of conversing is empty of honor, tact and lack of responsibility.

RaKaR- you are blowing your ability to be trusted here. please stop your showboat behavior and your strategy. It is not Avalon pleasing nor is it the energy we want here.

[RaKaR]

[QUOTE=Kelle Baley;48746]

Originally Posted by RaKaR

Hi, Member Kelle Baley,

Thanks for your insights and your tact.
I would appreciate any further elaboration in any way which suits you and the circumstances.

Regards,

RaKaR
It is REALLY obvious that by your next few postings having quoted my own private responses to you that you have an AGENDA here to put those of us with a sincere intent to further your profile as appearing in some type of false command.

WHY WOULD YOU POST MY PRIVATE RESPONSES TO YOU IN VIEW OF THE PUBLIC WITHOUT my permission????

Everyone who is reading my words; Know that Rakar is personally exploiting the comradeship of this thread for purposes which are not civil.

I had a private conversation with Rakar and did not respond to his request to display our conversation publicly, yet as you can clearly see he has done all on his own. Wow. THis level of conversing is empty of honor, tact and lack of responsibility.

RaKaR- you are blowing your ability to be trusted here. please stop your showboat behavior and your strategy. It is not Avalon pleasing nor is it the energy we want here.

[quote=RaKaR]Namaste, Member Kelle Baley,

"Also the answer to this question can be found in the posting you made mention of: the sake of transparency."

you are taking this out of context RaKaR.

"You are an intuitive person, you should understand that i would share all information with The Family, no matter how disturbing it might be, for everyone around here is seeking Awakening and Spiritual Growth and is therefore Self responsible - my personal responsibillity could be eventually to find a way to present it, so that the Inner Peace of others won't be greatly disturbed."

RaKaR: are you implying that I should think of a way to responsibly present what I sense about project Venus on this Thread? I have already offered both my feeling of its path and an audible warning.

"In a time when we are rightly expecting a shift of Consciousness, when we dream(quite possibly also rightly) of accessing telepathy and Oneness, i do not think that there is still room for secrecy."

to this I also agree yet intentions are not always shared with the same integrity so we must weigh the responsibility for personal revelation before we express it in the company of those that seek to rally support for an agenda and the perhaps unknowingly the agenda minded. My wonder here is if you will actually post this, or decide to cut and hash some of it as you it serves your needs. ?

"I have to say that it was rather surprised by your wish to discuss this issue privately. I accepted to do so, for i thought - and i still do - that you are a Lady(based on your way of writing and your avatar) and the Gentleman within me and the thankful Member of the Family we from here, which i am, could not reject such a request. "

I wanted to do this so that we could exchange enough to discover what motivates us each to our opinion which would expose intent on both our parts. Your own way of exchange employs a nominal amount of want for CONTENT rather than to know of another's own opinion or instinct as feedback so it proves an unworthy cause to continue as your listening is narrowed.

Sharing information privately with you has proven a failure as you decided to include others in our conversation which is revealing of a borderline agenda or at the minimum one needing to lead others with only the plans of another to lead with.

Sharing any eventual information has always been my intention and also this exchange will find its righteous place, that is the public eye. I am still open to those that want to exchange regarding Venus the project in private -until such a time that the information has a listening ear for things that are not based in physical truths that are provable as yet.


This is now clear that we have nothing more that can be shared except boundary that is respectable. i offer this- farewell RaKaR.
__________________
MariGaia

"peace is the only thing that you must master -when you do, you will discover something that changes everything " The Essenes




Farwell, Member Kelle Baley.

May you be further inspired in all your endeavors.

Peace and Wisdom.

RaKaR
www.futureofmankind.co.uk

[RaKaR]

Greetings in peace and wisdom Project Venus Pioneers,

It is time.

I assume that we all have registered at 'Zeitgeist Movement'(http://www.thezeitgeistmovement.com/) - for it must be done individually.
We are all then receiving updates from the Grand Project; we should then also be taking actions, promoting awareness and making the necessary preparations towards ZDAY Events ( March 15th 2009 ), namely:

1) The New York City Main Event with Peter Joseph, Jacque Fresco and
Roxanne Meadows (The Venus Project) [which] will occur at the Tribeca
Performing Arts Center in Manhattan.
http://www.zeitgeistmovie.com/zday09.html

2) ZDAY submissions for local event worldwide [accepted]
http://thezeitgeistmovement.com/zday.htm


Pioneers,
We should all as well be aware of the Program of the movement. And of what is expected from us.

The rational and humane management of Earth population lays in the middle of the Plan of Actions of Zeitgeist/Venus Project: PUNT 12
[...]
11. Encouraging the widest range of creativity and incentive toward constructive endeavor.
12. Assisting in stabilizing the world’s population through education and voluntary birth-control to conform to the carrying capacity of the earth.
13. Outgrowing nationalism, bigotry and prejudice through education.
[...]

Mister Fresco is not alone on this specific and delicate issue. Fortunately.
Mister Billy Meier, my personal source of inspiration, has also been calling for decades for a worldwide birth control - a rational, rigorous, ethical, scientific, essentially democratic, applying to all and everyone birth control.
The awareness on this question is lately growing and expanding.
Other voices are calling still loudly for the application of reason also to population:
- 'Obama reverses Bush abortion-funds policy'; by LIZ SIDOTI and MATTHEW LEE, Associated Press Writers – Fri Jan 23.
"WASHINGTON – President Barack Obama on Friday struck down the Bush administration's ban on giving federal money to international groups that perform abortions or provide abortion information — an inflammatory policy that has bounced in and out of law for the past quarter-century. Obama's executive order, the latest in an aggressive first week reversing contentious Bush policies, was warmly welcomed by liberal groups and denounced by abortion rights foes." [...]
http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20090123/...a_abortion_ban
- Speaker of the House Nancy Pelosi boldly defended a move to add birth control funding to the new economic "stimulus" package, claiming "contraception will reduce costs to the states and to the federal government." http://www.drudgereport.com/flashpbc.htm
- Baby decisions - adding to the world's woes?
"How responsible is it to have children in a world whose environmental health is already under stress? That's the question Joanna Benn poses this week in the Green Room. On the other hand, she wonders, will a couple more hungry mouths make much difference?"[...]
http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/science/nature/7759845.stm
- POPULATION: The elephant in the room
Uncontrolled population growth threatens to undermine efforts to save the planet, warns John Feeney. In this week's Green Room, he calls on the environmental movement to stop running scared of this controversial topic. http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/science/nature/7865332.stm
- One last chance to save mankind
With his 90th birthday in July, a trip into space scheduled for later in the year and a new book out next month, 2009 promises to be an exciting time for James Lovelock. But the originator of the Gaia theory, which describes Earth as a self-regulating planet, has a stark view of the future of humanity. He tells Gaia Vince we have one last chance to save ourselves - and it has nothing to do with nuclear power.
http://www.newscientist.com/article/...rue&print=true

Pioneers, friends; comrades,
We have decided to contribute to the effort of promoting awareness of overpopulation and of the need of a worldwide birth control, in order to achieve the goal of "stabilizing the world’s population through education and voluntary birth-control to conform to the carrying capacity of the earth."

Join us at:

http://www.projectavalon.net/forum/s...ad.php?t=10949


...and do your part.


Bring your insights in! Take concrete action!



Namaste,

RaKaR
www.futureofmankind.co.uk