Densities Question

being · 10-18-2008, 05:04 PM

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Also, without intellectualizing the unknown or unverified, where the hell would the human race be today? That's a thinker in itself.

We intellectualize everything because we severed our connection to our being. If you want to understand that you need to study and meditate.

Koyaanisqatsi · 11-20-2008, 02:17 PM

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Originally Posted by being

We intellectualize everything because we severed our connection to our being. If you want to understand that you need to study and meditate.

do you think that studying and intellectualizing serves as meditation? if not why?

what does meditation offer that studying and intellectualizing does not?

adam · 11-20-2008, 03:24 PM

hello... interesting posts you all have made.... the debate over intelectualization vs. meditative absorbtion is the perfect springboard to discuss densities because what you are all discussing is density...

1st density is physio-etheric matter. crystals are the manifestation of this... contemplate the consciousness of the atom and one will touch the fundamental being-ness of Life. Kriya Yogis call this the "small star". The upper end of this plane is the basic manifestation of plant life, which is the basic manifestation/interaction of solar energy with terresrial energy. Meditation on this, on the nature of plants, how they fix basic elements into higher configurations will yield understanding of how plants evolove.

second density is emotional/astral plane. this plane is very fluid and like the ocean, lower levels of it are "darker" than higher levels approaching the mental plane which is like the air above the ocean. Animals are called 2nd density because they respond and communicate via impressions on this plane. of course domesticated animals are evolving toward the mental plane...

3rd density mental. often associated with solar plexus energies, but this is incorrect b/c all 7 chakras are reflected in the first 3 densities. above the 4th density, chakras lose their significance. i will explain momentarily....

There is a great divide between the lower 3 and the higher 4

The first 3 densities are in fact Cosmic Material, such that the first 3 densities form a greater Cosmic plane themselves. The Ra material is congruent with other teachings on this subject, however some material is more nuanced than others....

4th density. This is the beginning of the Cosmic Astral plane, that whose nature is unconditioned Love-Beingness. This is the plane of the fiery intuition. It, for the yogi, is the unification of the Head and the Heart. When the emotional waters are stilled and the airs of the mind calm, when the tempest ceases to rage, one floats naturally up to this plane.

The 4th density is the great human potential. It is where we as a species are evolving to. And as we are lifted up, the animal kingdom will begin to utilize mental energies. This is evident in the personality traits of domesticated animals. It is also evident in the domestication of plants, e.g. an orchid blooming out of season for the love of its caregiver (movement to 2nd density).

So basically, the human ego-soul construct ceases to exist upon the 4th density/buddhic plane because one has been unified in emotion and mind into the great cosmic rapture of Infinite Love. Individuality is retained, but only insomuch as it is a reflection of a facet of the Infinite Creator, that which One Is, Was, and Ever shall Be. The higher end of this plane, the chakras... the septenary cosmic physical lattice of energies through which Spirit manifests loses its significance as the energies become unified.

Beyond the lower levels of the "4th density" I cannot see, only speculate.

As for intelectualization, it has its place. Those who touch the intuitional plane breathe these intuitions into forms (usually geometric) and manifest them as the abstract thoughts that guide the best and brightest of what human beings create. These abstract thoughts are then dissemiated into concrete level teachings by the intellectuals of the world. Those that learn from them in our colleges and universities then put into practice these concepts all the way through the astral plane (where things are increasingly distorted) until finally reaching physical manifestation through day to day activity.

So everyone here is right in some respect. Each has a piece of the puzzle.

Please forward all questions and/or comments to me privately. Especially if you have issues surrounding what I just posted. Given the move of this forum to subscription, this will probably be my last post.

You may contact me at agnisvatta@gmail.com w/ any ?'s. thank you

KassandraLoves · 11-20-2008, 06:37 PM

p.s. wheres the eXchanger when you need her?

My post up above was my 88th post and it was the 17th post on here... (1+7= 8) Triple 8!!!!

hahahha, sorry....

One 66 · 11-20-2008, 09:17 PM

KassandraLoves,

I've been keeping tabs on what you've been posting here and on DC.... I like what you've been writing.... and as for what you posted here in this blog, I agree with you 100%

One 66

KassandraLoves · 11-21-2008, 07:32 PM

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Originally Posted by One 66

KassandraLoves,

I've been keeping tabs on what you've been posting here and on DC.... I like what you've been writing.... and as for what you posted here in this blog, I agree with you 100%

One 66

Hey thanks

11-20-2008, 03:24 PM	#3
adam Avalon Senior Member Join Date: Sep 2008 Posts: 18	Re: Densities Question hello... interesting posts you all have made.... the debate over intelectualization vs. meditative absorbtion is the perfect springboard to discuss densities because what you are all discussing is density... 1st density is physio-etheric matter. crystals are the manifestation of this... contemplate the consciousness of the atom and one will touch the fundamental being-ness of Life. Kriya Yogis call this the "small star". The upper end of this plane is the basic manifestation of plant life, which is the basic manifestation/interaction of solar energy with terresrial energy. Meditation on this, on the nature of plants, how they fix basic elements into higher configurations will yield understanding of how plants evolove. second density is emotional/astral plane. this plane is very fluid and like the ocean, lower levels of it are "darker" than higher levels approaching the mental plane which is like the air above the ocean. Animals are called 2nd density because they respond and communicate via impressions on this plane. of course domesticated animals are evolving toward the mental plane... 3rd density mental. often associated with solar plexus energies, but this is incorrect b/c all 7 chakras are reflected in the first 3 densities. above the 4th density, chakras lose their significance. i will explain momentarily.... There is a great divide between the lower 3 and the higher 4 The first 3 densities are in fact Cosmic Material, such that the first 3 densities form a greater Cosmic plane themselves. The Ra material is congruent with other teachings on this subject, however some material is more nuanced than others.... 4th density. This is the beginning of the Cosmic Astral plane, that whose nature is unconditioned Love-Beingness. This is the plane of the fiery intuition. It, for the yogi, is the unification of the Head and the Heart. When the emotional waters are stilled and the airs of the mind calm, when the tempest ceases to rage, one floats naturally up to this plane. The 4th density is the great human potential. It is where we as a species are evolving to. And as we are lifted up, the animal kingdom will begin to utilize mental energies. This is evident in the personality traits of domesticated animals. It is also evident in the domestication of plants, e.g. an orchid blooming out of season for the love of its caregiver (movement to 2nd density). So basically, the human ego-soul construct ceases to exist upon the 4th density/buddhic plane because one has been unified in emotion and mind into the great cosmic rapture of Infinite Love. Individuality is retained, but only insomuch as it is a reflection of a facet of the Infinite Creator, that which One Is, Was, and Ever shall Be. The higher end of this plane, the chakras... the septenary cosmic physical lattice of energies through which Spirit manifests loses its significance as the energies become unified. Beyond the lower levels of the "4th density" I cannot see, only speculate. As for intelectualization, it has its place. Those who touch the intuitional plane breathe these intuitions into forms (usually geometric) and manifest them as the abstract thoughts that guide the best and brightest of what human beings create. These abstract thoughts are then dissemiated into concrete level teachings by the intellectuals of the world. Those that learn from them in our colleges and universities then put into practice these concepts all the way through the astral plane (where things are increasingly distorted) until finally reaching physical manifestation through day to day activity. So everyone here is right in some respect. Each has a piece of the puzzle. Please forward all questions and/or comments to me privately. Especially if you have issues surrounding what I just posted. Given the move of this forum to subscription, this will probably be my last post. You may contact me at agnisvatta@gmail.com w/ any ?'s. thank you

11-20-2008, 06:37 PM	#4
KassandraLoves Avalon Senior Member Join Date: Nov 2008 Location: WA, USA Posts: 187	Re: Densities Question p.s. wheres the eXchanger when you need her? My post up above was my 88th post and it was the 17th post on here... (1+7= 8) Triple 8!!!! hahahha, sorry....

11-20-2008, 09:17 PM	#5
One 66 Avalon Senior Member Join Date: Sep 2008 Location: Los Angeles Ca Posts: 34	Re: Densities Question KassandraLoves, I've been keeping tabs on what you've been posting here and on DC.... I like what you've been writing.... and as for what you posted here in this blog, I agree with you 100% One 66