New Zealand Ground Crew

steveyg · 10-19-2008, 01:16 AM

Hi Everyone,

Heres my 10 cents worth...
NZ is a very very good place to be, especially moving into 2009.
Lots of land, water, mild climate and laid back resourceful people.
Like all developed countries, I suspect living in the big cities will prove to be problematic and NZ's big cities are no exception. As I see it the integrated logistics system will possibly break down. This is how your food gets from the manufacturer to your local supermarket. Credit difficulties and fuel supply (peak oil) could accentuate this problem. Iceland have this issue now.
What you need to be doing now is getting your thinking straight. Don't get too caught up with chemtrails, ufos, illuminati, escaping to Uraguay or any of that ****. Don't listen to alot of the blatantly fear based disinformation on the net either e.g. Blossom Goodchild, Bill Deagle and the zetatalk website - I found this stuff just brings you down and gets in the way of YOU coming up with viable solutions. Be discerning, if you focus on it, it becomes real. Particulary important heading into 2009 to 2012.
Don't let other peoples dramas, karma or egos get in your way. Alot of 'new age' types just have big egos and have a bone to grind. Switch it off and go for a walk outdoors, play with the dog, have a coffee

, lighten up and get centred.

The solution lies with you, get your thinking straight and the rest falls into place pretty effortlessly.

As for me, I've got a couple of acres in Hawkes Bay, bore water, chooks, vegies and a wood fired oven with a wetback. If the grid goes at least I have hot water and cooked meals. I'm way better off than alot of 'rich' city people. 2012 is all about emotional control, thoughts and manifesting your own reality. Go with the flow and trust your intuition. Turn off the tv and the computer, enjoy nature and be reconnected with the earth.

Good luck everyone,

Steve

IRKCOD · 10-19-2008, 01:34 AM

Good thoughts StevenG.

A lot of getting on with life, if there are grid or other issues, will involve the development of strong local communities prepared to assist one another.
In this respect you being out in the country have a more solid base to build from. Here in the 'Big Smoke' we 'Jafas' have to break back into a communication mode. Talking to the neighbours over the fence may be just a traumatic as the event that gives rise to needing to do it.

Well they say challanges are the spice of life and isn't that what we are all here for?
You always have to look on the positive side, no matter how small it may be.

steveyg · 10-19-2008, 10:21 PM

Hi IRKOD,
Yes, even in the rural parts of NZ, your community is important. You need to have a sense of contribution and help others. So yes, being prepared to communicate with people and being part of a community is a good start.
Hiding in the hills behind a barb wire fence with guns, eating freeze dried food is a bit too paranoid for me.
Auckland could be a ok if you have a quarter acre with plenty of garden. It'd be pretty easy to get a collective going between neighbours, that way you can specialise in growing a few crops and trade with your excess produce. The climate is humid and warm so you can grow anything up there. My nana lived next to some Samoans and they had a banana tree!
If your're in an apartment, I'd be thinking of an alternative living arangement. It just won't cut it moving forward. Property in NZ has never been more affordable, a good time to get that bit of land, something to consider anyway.

linkes · 10-21-2008, 01:29 AM

when are we all going to get together like the australian guys have ?

steveyg · 10-22-2008, 02:40 AM

Hi Linkes,

Whats the goal here?

Get togethers are good but also involve travel, time and committment.
Also, if eveyones goals are different then its setting people up for a big dissapointment as you'll never meet everyones expectations.

Maybe we're just an information and support network for now? Its always good to bounce ideas around and debate. Does that makes sense.

What do you guys think?

Cheers, Steve

IRKCOD · 10-22-2008, 04:35 AM

Hi Linkes & Steveyg.

I tend to agree at this point we should be more an information and support grouping.

In this respect I feel there would be a benefit in establishing a central repository (library) on the net where PDF downloads on Survival, Homesteading, Medical, Living in 3rd world conditions etc can be logged.

I'm not advocating a forum type setup, which are good, but I personally find difficult to 'backtrack on' looking for ideas I recall having seen in the past and would now like clarification on.

While there is a fantastic resource in the net it takes a lot of time to 'surf' for relevant information. A central resource may also stimulate ideas in others about areas they may have overlooked in making their own plans.

Optix · 10-28-2008, 06:55 AM

Hello...?

Is it just me or doesnt it seem like theres much activity on the New Zealand forums, is this because most of our mates are asleep or are we all just waiting for the right time.
Anyway, since we'v got a place to chat specifically for our country why dont we talk about whats generally going on here and start sharing some information.
Now just to start off is it safe to assume im not the only nzer whose watched the project camelot videos? Or maybe seen Zeitgeist and heard of jordan maxwell and michael tsarion, or maybe uv heard of david icke or david wilcock, maybe even had a look at some of the conscious media network interviews.
I know theres heaps more but some of the ideas held by these people can do with some debate right.. anyone got something to add or possibly links to other interesting information? the least we can do is to get on the same page as each other right..

Peace

IRKCOD · 10-28-2008, 10:29 AM

Optix,

While there are only a comparative few commenting, at last viewing the stats showed 33 posts with 1,155 visits to this tread, some people are getting the message.

Community wise we certainly don't appear to be strong as last time I looked at the NZ Social listing there were only 2 on it. To my way of thinking that should be the forum for setting up a local information/Resource exchange under the appropriate "survival" threads
Current news and 'alerts' are great on this the main forum, but trying to research it for specific topics becomes difficult and time consuming.

There are a lot of people out there waiting or wanting to be woken up, particularly with the current financial fiasco. I download a lot of the interviews from Camelot and other sites and put them on CD/DVD's. A few friends and a lot of the kids (adult & teenage) friends borrow or copy them.

By the same token there are others that appear to think that we are 'fringe dwellers'

Lets hope we get more 'Life' on the NZ. While it may go against the general NZ conservative nature to express opinion in public, here at least you have the opportunity to do it as anonymously as you wish.

(Have just rechecked the listing and see that you have added yourself to it - Great)

Peter · 10-29-2008, 11:51 PM

Hi folks, I'm still checking in and reading as much as poss on this site, there's so many interesting threads I just don't get time to contribute.
So, I'll throw in a subject thats really bothering me, I believe the 1080 drops and the Setnet ban are simply there to stop us from getting free food and to stop or discourage people from going "bush" when the supermarkets are empty. Also I've been told by a friend that Council workers are being "taught" how to convince coastal land owners to give up their properties with the excuse that a tidal wave is coming. Any thoughts ?.
Keep on keeping on, Peter.

steveyg · 10-30-2008, 12:58 AM

Hi Peter,

Be discerning with the information you look at. The internet is like walking into a libray with all the books lying on the floor.

I wouldn't worry about the setnet ban and 1080. In a few years the Government is likely to have no money, you'll be lucky if anyone is there to answer the phones. There are plenty of people currently living off their own land in NZ, no one is stopping you joining them if you want, be prepared to do some work though.

I also doubt council workers are telling coast dwellers to move due to 'tidal waves', more like explaining how storm surges due to rising ocean levels will begin to encroach on our coastal land. These residents would be wanting their councils to do more to protect their way of life. Councils are hip to the diminishing returns of coastal properties. Anyone dumb enough to still be holding onto high-risk coastal property will realise soon enough the limitations of this living arrangement.

10-19-2008, 01:16 AM	#1
steveyg Avalon Senior Member Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: Central Hawkes Bay, New Zealand Posts: 16	Re: New Zealand Ground Crew Hi Everyone, Heres my 10 cents worth... NZ is a very very good place to be, especially moving into 2009. Lots of land, water, mild climate and laid back resourceful people. Like all developed countries, I suspect living in the big cities will prove to be problematic and NZ's big cities are no exception. As I see it the integrated logistics system will possibly break down. This is how your food gets from the manufacturer to your local supermarket. Credit difficulties and fuel supply (peak oil) could accentuate this problem. Iceland have this issue now. What you need to be doing now is getting your thinking straight. Don't get too caught up with chemtrails, ufos, illuminati, escaping to Uraguay or any of that ****. Don't listen to alot of the blatantly fear based disinformation on the net either e.g. Blossom Goodchild, Bill Deagle and the zetatalk website - I found this stuff just brings you down and gets in the way of YOU coming up with viable solutions. Be discerning, if you focus on it, it becomes real. Particulary important heading into 2009 to 2012. Don't let other peoples dramas, karma or egos get in your way. Alot of 'new age' types just have big egos and have a bone to grind. Switch it off and go for a walk outdoors, play with the dog, have a coffee, lighten up and get centred. The solution lies with you, get your thinking straight and the rest falls into place pretty effortlessly. As for me, I've got a couple of acres in Hawkes Bay, bore water, chooks, vegies and a wood fired oven with a wetback. If the grid goes at least I have hot water and cooked meals. I'm way better off than alot of 'rich' city people. 2012 is all about emotional control, thoughts and manifesting your own reality. Go with the flow and trust your intuition. Turn off the tv and the computer, enjoy nature and be reconnected with the earth. Good luck everyone, Steve

10-19-2008, 01:34 AM	#2
IRKCOD Avalon Senior Member Join Date: Sep 2008 Location: Auckland, New Zealand Posts: 33	Re: New Zealand Ground Crew Good thoughts StevenG. A lot of getting on with life, if there are grid or other issues, will involve the development of strong local communities prepared to assist one another. In this respect you being out in the country have a more solid base to build from. Here in the 'Big Smoke' we 'Jafas' have to break back into a communication mode. Talking to the neighbours over the fence may be just a traumatic as the event that gives rise to needing to do it. Well they say challanges are the spice of life and isn't that what we are all here for? You always have to look on the positive side, no matter how small it may be.

10-19-2008, 10:21 PM	#3
steveyg Avalon Senior Member Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: Central Hawkes Bay, New Zealand Posts: 16	Re: New Zealand Ground Crew Hi IRKOD, Yes, even in the rural parts of NZ, your community is important. You need to have a sense of contribution and help others. So yes, being prepared to communicate with people and being part of a community is a good start. Hiding in the hills behind a barb wire fence with guns, eating freeze dried food is a bit too paranoid for me. Auckland could be a ok if you have a quarter acre with plenty of garden. It'd be pretty easy to get a collective going between neighbours, that way you can specialise in growing a few crops and trade with your excess produce. The climate is humid and warm so you can grow anything up there. My nana lived next to some Samoans and they had a banana tree! If your're in an apartment, I'd be thinking of an alternative living arangement. It just won't cut it moving forward. Property in NZ has never been more affordable, a good time to get that bit of land, something to consider anyway.

10-21-2008, 01:29 AM	#4
linkes Avalon Senior Member Join Date: Sep 2008 Location: Wellington New Zealand Posts: 45	Re: New Zealand Ground Crew when are we all going to get together like the australian guys have ?

10-22-2008, 02:40 AM	#5
steveyg Avalon Senior Member Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: Central Hawkes Bay, New Zealand Posts: 16	Re: New Zealand Ground Crew Hi Linkes, Whats the goal here? Get togethers are good but also involve travel, time and committment. Also, if eveyones goals are different then its setting people up for a big dissapointment as you'll never meet everyones expectations. Maybe we're just an information and support network for now? Its always good to bounce ideas around and debate. Does that makes sense. What do you guys think? Cheers, Steve

10-22-2008, 04:35 AM	#6
IRKCOD Avalon Senior Member Join Date: Sep 2008 Location: Auckland, New Zealand Posts: 33	Re: New Zealand Ground Crew Hi Linkes & Steveyg. I tend to agree at this point we should be more an information and support grouping. In this respect I feel there would be a benefit in establishing a central repository (library) on the net where PDF downloads on Survival, Homesteading, Medical, Living in 3rd world conditions etc can be logged. I'm not advocating a forum type setup, which are good, but I personally find difficult to 'backtrack on' looking for ideas I recall having seen in the past and would now like clarification on. While there is a fantastic resource in the net it takes a lot of time to 'surf' for relevant information. A central resource may also stimulate ideas in others about areas they may have overlooked in making their own plans. Last edited by IRKCOD; 10-23-2008 at 08:23 AM.

10-28-2008, 06:55 AM	#7
Optix Avalon Senior Member Join Date: Sep 2008 Location: Northland, New Zealand Posts: 11	Re: New Zealand Ground Crew Hello...? Is it just me or doesnt it seem like theres much activity on the New Zealand forums, is this because most of our mates are asleep or are we all just waiting for the right time. Anyway, since we'v got a place to chat specifically for our country why dont we talk about whats generally going on here and start sharing some information. Now just to start off is it safe to assume im not the only nzer whose watched the project camelot videos? Or maybe seen Zeitgeist and heard of jordan maxwell and michael tsarion, or maybe uv heard of david icke or david wilcock, maybe even had a look at some of the conscious media network interviews. I know theres heaps more but some of the ideas held by these people can do with some debate right.. anyone got something to add or possibly links to other interesting information? the least we can do is to get on the same page as each other right.. Peace

10-28-2008, 10:29 AM	#8
IRKCOD Avalon Senior Member Join Date: Sep 2008 Location: Auckland, New Zealand Posts: 33	Re: New Zealand Ground Crew Optix, While there are only a comparative few commenting, at last viewing the stats showed 33 posts with 1,155 visits to this tread, some people are getting the message. Community wise we certainly don't appear to be strong as last time I looked at the NZ Social listing there were only 2 on it. To my way of thinking that should be the forum for setting up a local information/Resource exchange under the appropriate "survival" threads Current news and 'alerts' are great on this the main forum, but trying to research it for specific topics becomes difficult and time consuming. There are a lot of people out there waiting or wanting to be woken up, particularly with the current financial fiasco. I download a lot of the interviews from Camelot and other sites and put them on CD/DVD's. A few friends and a lot of the kids (adult & teenage) friends borrow or copy them. By the same token there are others that appear to think that we are 'fringe dwellers' Lets hope we get more 'Life' on the NZ. While it may go against the general NZ conservative nature to express opinion in public, here at least you have the opportunity to do it as anonymously as you wish. (Have just rechecked the listing and see that you have added yourself to it - Great) Last edited by IRKCOD; 10-28-2008 at 10:35 AM.

10-29-2008, 11:51 PM	#9
Peter Avalon Senior Member Join Date: Sep 2008 Location: New Zealand Posts: 41	Re: New Zealand Ground Crew Hi folks, I'm still checking in and reading as much as poss on this site, there's so many interesting threads I just don't get time to contribute. So, I'll throw in a subject thats really bothering me, I believe the 1080 drops and the Setnet ban are simply there to stop us from getting free food and to stop or discourage people from going "bush" when the supermarkets are empty. Also I've been told by a friend that Council workers are being "taught" how to convince coastal land owners to give up their properties with the excuse that a tidal wave is coming. Any thoughts ?. Keep on keeping on, Peter.

10-30-2008, 12:58 AM	#10
steveyg Avalon Senior Member Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: Central Hawkes Bay, New Zealand Posts: 16	Re: New Zealand Ground Crew Hi Peter, Be discerning with the information you look at. The internet is like walking into a libray with all the books lying on the floor. I wouldn't worry about the setnet ban and 1080. In a few years the Government is likely to have no money, you'll be lucky if anyone is there to answer the phones. There are plenty of people currently living off their own land in NZ, no one is stopping you joining them if you want, be prepared to do some work though. I also doubt council workers are telling coast dwellers to move due to 'tidal waves', more like explaining how storm surges due to rising ocean levels will begin to encroach on our coastal land. These residents would be wanting their councils to do more to protect their way of life. Councils are hip to the diminishing returns of coastal properties. Anyone dumb enough to still be holding onto high-risk coastal property will realise soon enough the limitations of this living arrangement.