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Hi. I'm 12st, haven't gone near what would be termed "junk food" for years and include lots of fruit in my diet, so I consider that I eat healthily. I ensured that my 'mixer' included no vitamin C, using pure grape-juice which specifically states that there is nothing else added. Also, I tend to believe that the vast majority of all 'conventional' medicines exist purely for the enrichment of the pharmcutical companies and have no real benefit, so I do not even use asprin.
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@peaceandlove - thanks, I appreciate your comprehensive post. Yes, I still have the product and although I only went as high as 6 drops/day, I never suffered nausea etc. so no issues there. As I mentioned, it suggests in the documentation applying MMS directly to warts, which I did over the course of several days only to end up with a badly inflamed nail cuticle - very painful, so no relief there, and my only real "bone of contention". Interesting to hear that the "detox" process can exibit symptoms of illness. I am now also wondering if taking the maintainence dose of 6 drops daily, instead of twice weekly as you suggest, could have been a contributing factor, particularily as I had no real illness (that I was aware of) to begin with?
EDIT: Having just re-read this, I see that this really only applies to children, so unlikely... Last edited by sprocket; 10-22-2008 at 01:50 PM. |
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Sprocket,Congratulations on your excellent diet. That is one our best defenses to maintaining a healthy lifestyle. Have you decided to increase the drops beyond 6? For example: Morning 6 drops of MMS to 30 drops of activator (citric acid)Following day: Morning 8 drops of MMS to 40 drops of activator (citric acid)Continue increasing daily until you reach 15 drops twice and day for two weeks without nausea. Then increase to 15 drops 3 times a day for a week. (This last step, 3 times a day, may not be necessary for people under 150 pounds.) Anytime you feel nausea, reduce drops again for a while and try again another day to increase. I think you might have read the rest of Step 3. Just want to make sure the instructions were clear. As a note: Remember you need at least as much citric acid as MMS. Instead of counting out drops of citric acid you can use this ratio: 1 - 6 drops of MMS to 1/4 teaspoon citric acid solution 7 - 15 drops of MMS to 1/2 teaspoon citric acid solution When counting drops, you may want to use identical dispensers, as drops can vary in size depending on the dropper. This will insure you are using enough citric acid to activate the MMS. After adding the two products in a clean dry glass, swirl the glass and wait a minimum of 3 minutes before adding water or juice or 50/50 mix. MMS oxygenates and alkalizes the body and has not been found to destroy the friendly bacteria. It is very difficult for diseases to exist in a well oxygenated and pH balanced environment. If you reach a plateau, don't be discouraged, it's much more comfortable to detox slowly unless you have an emergency health situation. It may take some people months to cleanse the body of toxins. Consistent use of course is required. Measure how you feel, if you are feeling too tired, cut back and build up slowly. Allow yourself to rest when needed. All detoxing programs generally require the body to work overtime and discomfort will arise. REMEMBER: Whether detoxing or not, water is the 'elixir' of life. The most recent information indicates the ratio for water consumption is 1/2 ounce per 1 pound of body weight. If you weigh 100 pounds, the suggested amount of water to consume is 50 ounces per day. Last but not least, BLESS Your Water. You can create a healing frequency as simply as that. This website, I saw posted on the forum contains Gregorian Chants for healing. They are very soothing. You could also expose your water to the sounds to imprint it with healing properties. http://www.astrovera.com/philosophy/...equencies.html Low cost shipping rates, includes worldwide. http://www.mmsmiracle.com/hereforhealing Last edited by peaceandlove; 11-25-2008 at 08:06 AM. |
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Anytime the word “miracle” is attached to anything my warning bells go off.
Also anything that you ingest that needs such intense careful dosing and that has such contraindications means there is high probability of harm. Everything in balance and wisdom. |
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Study what Chlorine Dioxide Ion is in depth and how it effects the body. Do not just reject it because you think it's risky. Understand it. Many did not believe the world was round either. So you are not alone. ![]() Peace, Ampgod |
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It is far from intense carefull dosing. You can take 3 drops of acid or 5 or 6, as long as it is enough to react. One drop or two drops of MMS more or less? No problem. And you have not seen 1 single contraindication posted anywhere. There is no probability of harm. Where and what have you been reading lately? Not this thread anyway. |
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Peer,
I'm a medicinal herbalist and I become very concerned when people feel that "natural" things are okay to take and won't hurt you. Arsenic and hemlock are natural but I certainly would not suggest someone take it. Before you get your bloomers in a bunch I am not saying MMS is in the same catagory as arsenic. Yes I understand the benefits of MMS . . . . I just do not feel it is a miracle chemical. The fact that MMS has to be taken by carefully measured drops and ramping up or down means one has to be very careful in using this chemical. When you have to take into consideration someones weight and diet is very telling. I also would be very concerned where the different people are finding this product and how it is being produced or manufactured. I'm not sure about your comment about 2 or 3 drops of "acid" . Are you saying you would ingest something like Hydrochloric Acid and it would be fine if you only took 2 or 3 drops????? If so I rest my case. You stated there are no contraindications or anywhere in the thread that states there has been harm or problem. Well I suggest you read this thread again . . . carefully. Amgod was very clear saying several times that he has become ill . . . very ill using MMS. Myplanet2 states clearly that his wife became "violently ill" after using this product. The fact you have to avoid vitamin c or be careful with citric acid is a contraindication. You have to be careful and understand reactions with other drugs or medications with this type of chemical. For you to state there is no "probability of harm" is extremely dangerous. This type of product does detoxify very quickly and too quickly for some people with delicate or weak constitutions. It acts very aggressively in some cases . . . . which can be good or problematic. Someone asked about viruses . . . . if there is a virus that has been dormant like herpes or Epstein barr or Lymes disease and many others and it is deep in the liver and you take something like MMS or a “heroic” type herb you can activate that virus by trying to get rid of it and it comes back ten fold. I know what I’m talking about. I completely understand the benefits of natural herbs, tinctures, teas and minerals and have used them all my life (I’m 50). I would not be a herbalist if I didn’t. But I also understand fully the possibility of harm. All I’m saying is I feel to tout something as a “miracle” on a site such as this where many read it and take it for granted that because it is on PA then it must be safe and true is not being responsible. Like Swanny who asked if it would cure his friend who has diabetes. Yes Ampgod I agree that knowledge is power but it is what you do with that "power" that makes a massive difference. Knowlege is useless and dangerous without wisdom. I am not rejecting MMS no more that I would reject "poke root tincture" but I also understand both have to be used wisely. Please use common sense and be responsible. Take Care Quote:
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In The Mists
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Several of the MMS websites offer Jim Humbles Free book, explaining the theory and use of MMS. The details really need to be known before much in depth conversation makes sense.
For example, the "acid" used isn't hydrochloric. It's citric acid, or lemon juice. It's needed to turn the sodium Chlorite into the Chlorine Dioxide (stabilized oxygen). There is a correct proportion of sodium chlorite to acid to produce chlorine dioxide. taking vitamin C as in the case of mixing the solution with a fruit juice containing added vit C throws off the proper proportions. So it's good to read up a bit before commenting or assuming anything based on discussion. As far as I know, MMS has no side effects. Nausea, stomach upset, head ache, etc are expected effects which indicate the elimination of toxins or pathogens from the system. |
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Blufire 77 you are a wise!!! Why harm yourselves with miracles??? Namaste
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Please don't attempt to discredit something you don't understand. It is just confusing people. "Blufire77" also said I said something that I did not. Here is what he stated.... "Amgod was very clear saying several times that he has become ill . . . very ill using MMS." Now the truth is this... I got ill ONCE due to me testing the limits which I knew might produce adverse effects. However, I am one to push the envelope and see for myself the truth about the limits. Which I did. I got ill as expected (ONCE) and was back to normal in hours. I moved back to 6 drops and am fine now. *Why not just wait and see how things pan out with this stuff instead of bashing it constantly? *You don't have to test it. Let people like Peer and others including myself do it for you. *No need for bashing it. ![]() There is a good possibility you harm yourself more eating crappy food from the local grocery store (Toxins) than with MMS. Ampgod Last edited by Ampgod; 10-24-2008 at 07:39 PM. |
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This is an excellent thread with many good insights.
Thanks everyone |
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I think and want to make clear that experimenting with those products are not wise and can be harmful, like any medicine. The ingredients are pretty aggresive and as they are used wrong, cause a lot of harm. You might leave composing this product to someone who knows more of such things, to avoid errors.... I know about the healing effect and the use in africa to stabilise symptoms of malaria, hepatitus ect. Just want to say, again..., take care en keep thinking....!!! Namaste
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Here is some further information posted on the internet regarding extreme reactions to MMS.
How to Avoid Nausea Quote:
FREE Download Jim Humble's book Part 1: http://www.mmsmiracle.com/hereforhealing ~ Click on About MMS and scroll to near bottom for link to FREE Download. Low cost shipping rates, include worldwide: See previous and future posts by peaceandlove regarding experience and protocols. Last edited by peaceandlove; 11-25-2008 at 07:53 AM. |
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I dont need a label !
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Does it cure baldness?
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More information from the Internet:Chlorine Dioxide gas circulates in the blood stream, destroying pathogens that are gradually eliminated. ~ MMS doesn't replace damaged body parts or add anything such as vitamins, nutrition, or protein. ~ MMS boosts the immune system immeasurably - 100% or even greater. ~ MMS doesn't heal anything. Sprains, whip-lash, bald head, addictions, and bad attitudes are not caused by bacteria. ~ When your body is free from poisons and toxins, the immune system sometimes "heals" damaged body parts. ~ Life style and positive attitudes are factors in triggering the immune system into reconstructive healing mode. ~ Claimed: MMS can be used periodically to maintain a cleansed toxin-free body, achieving high levels of immunity. ~ Conflict with other drugs is unlikely. If in doubt, voluntarily eliminate one or the other. http://www.mmsmiracle.com/hereforhealing See previous and future posts by peaceandlove regarding experience and usage. Last edited by peaceandlove; 11-25-2008 at 07:54 AM. |
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Oh well not to worry, would have been fun to be a long haired hippy again
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hehe, i was ordering today....and looking forward for this ekspiriment.....so interesting, but i have also like 77 something read about people with more than healthy reactions, this was with hep c and herpes...anyway i think that slow start is the key here, a lot of people are loaded with germs, so ofcourse this can be harmful, i cant understnd how it can not be.....like a lot of other stuff overdosing....but by eliminating low ph cells it also have selflimiting reaction in a body...
but im exited abouth this.....big time!!!!
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I dont need a label !
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Has there been any success with Osteo-Arthritis (complete healing)?
I have read the entire thread, took me the whole evening....whew...... & I just wanted to say IMO this is the best thread in the whole forum. It is awesome to see you all pushing forward with healing your bodies. Taking back your health and wellbeing is fantastic and empowering for you. A special word of thanks goes to PeaceAndLove for all your hard work & patience in posting and reposting all the material for the benefit of all.Also a special thanks goes to the herbalists, homeopaths & the doc for contributing your valuable knowledge. I have had some hearty laughs from Swanny and a few others sharing your personal experiences. Much knowledge will be gained from each of you sharing your healing crisis. Thanks to all of you and many blessings on your journey to freedom.
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up to 5 drops a day, feeling good!
but i can tell you that it doesn't mix very well with 3 pints of bitter on an empty stomach. hmm. |
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Swanny, NO blessings for you today!!!
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