Hillary to Be President

Waterman · 10-22-2008, 05:20 PM

It grieves me to think one would take pleasure in anyone not being perfect. So for those who will enjoy my back peddling, be assured that with great remorse I see no future for this country in either Obama or McCain. For me it isn't an either or choice. However, I am concerned that when running for president the candidate is not able to survive scrutiny of their credentials.

Not only is Obama's birth certificate in question but his school records are in question. He is not allowing his Univ. of Chicago, or his Harvard school records to be released. When was the last time you applied for a job and said "Mr. employer I don't want you to see my records, but give me the job anyway".

Posted on the forum is reference to factcheck.org. FackCheck.org is a project of the Annenburg Public Policy Center funded by the Annenburg Foundation. Barack Obama was chairman and president of the Chicago Annenberg challenge. He was responsible to see that Annenburg got their annual six million dollars year after year. Do I need to say it?

This isn't about politics. This is how we are all being fleeced. This is about how they divide and conquer. It is about the stealing of our nation. And I'm not speaking about Obama.

We must all jump off the wagons we ride and begin to inspect what it is carrying.

And finally, nothing would please me more than for me to be completely and utterly surprised and absolutely wrong that whoever gets in the office of president is the best thing since sliced bread.......by the way did I mention I'm a Chinese fighter pilot.

Sarahmay · 10-22-2008, 05:29 PM

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Originally Posted by Waterman

It grieves me to think one would take pleasure in anyone not being perfect. So for those who will enjoy my back peddling, be assured that with great remorse I see no future for this country in either Obama or McCain.

I apologize if I hurt your feelings with that remark. But firstly, if you think that the world would be better off with Hillary as president, read the Project Camelot looking glass scenarios in which that would end up in nuclear war. Not good for anyone.

Secondly, this ridiculous stuff about Obama's birth certificate is completely false. And nobody should have to release their transcripts (although I wouldn't mind releasing mine, actually).

Y'all are living in a fantasy world. Obama will win, the system isn't perfect but things are evolving, and life will go on.

10-22-2008, 05:29 PM

Hmmmm Oil Prices already dropping Arabs nervous

Conservatives make major announcement to fix fuel prices just before elections. Everyone says 'Way Kewl" and McCain wins...

Hey what the heck everyone else is in the prophet business I thought I would try my hand at it...

Wasn't McCain born in Panama OUTSIDE the military base?

Hmmmm

Also blacks, hispanics and youths may say they are voting Obama... but when push comes to shove that may not be the way they vote. I would not put money on it.

Elephant Man · 10-22-2008, 05:45 PM

I want Kermit in there, at least he looks the part.

Hilary? I was most suprised when she opted out of the running, then even more when she didnt get the VP position. Something just aint right (apart from the usual bs), forget birth certificates and all that stuff, there is no way that clinton has not been promised something. American elections have always been a show, but this is like a monumental soap opera! barack obama? palin? mccain? far out characters in a zany vaudeville circus, where nothing is even remotely close to real life. Glad I dont have to make a choice in november - jeez its a nuthouse!

Peace - I will though be praying for calm and sending goodwill vibes

Topper · 10-22-2008, 05:49 PM

The plan is simple and was hinted at two days ago by Sen. Biden. As a result, Biden was removed from the campaign, giving the DNC time to create a diversion. You see, Biden spoke too soon and the DNC was not prepared for it. The hint, as to reason for Obama's removal, was to come after election day, after the winner had been declared, so the office of President couldn't be denied.
The plan created by the DNC and Biden's BIG money friends was to reveal the true nationality of Barak Obama, leaving the evidence to be found by a N.Y. Times journalist. Not being a citizen of the U.S. Obama would be forced to surrender his position as President, leaving it open for Sen. Biden to step in.
What a gaff.

Myra · 10-22-2008, 08:46 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Waterman

It grieves me to think one would take pleasure in anyone not being perfect. So for those who will enjoy my back peddling........

Waterman I'm sorry, I didn't direct my comment at you personally, I hope you didn't misunderstand me!

Elephant Man · 10-22-2008, 09:03 PM

ok, we all get things wrong sometimes. I do have a feeling that waterman is on to something, but if its wrong, well great! he's learned something, I've learned something, we've all learned something. we've looked at the opposites, analysed all angles, done some research. Its not an empty claim, it is backed up with argument and its a lot better to come up with alternative views and be wrong, than to sit in front of the frigging tv with a bowl of popcorn and a beer end just lapping up the **** on tv. I've been a member only a short time here on avalon and man I'm learning so much! its a blast!

Mikill · 10-22-2008, 09:29 PM

This is way beyone ridiculous.If hillary was going to be president,She would at least be on the ballot for november.All you conspiricy theorists need something else to focus on.I heard someone on here say that Bush/Cheney are going to start WW3 on purpose blah blah....They are too stupid too live much less start the war to destroy mankind.Some things in this world happen because stupid people in power make stupid descicions.IT"S NOT A CONSPIRICY!!!!!!IT"S STUPIDITY!!!!!!!There is no underlying cause.Stop digging.

Waterman · 10-23-2008, 01:42 AM

The comments about the fact that if Hillary was meant to be president they would have put her on the democratic ticket are very logical. In fact it probably would have been my position a few years ago.

However, there is a reason for not nomimating Hillary. She ran and presented the fact that she wanted the nomination, but didn't get it right? She has therefore demonstrated to the world she is interested in doing the job. Now, with this in mind let's consider the main reason for this bizzare dialectic approach.

Is is because the Clinton's have too many skeletons in the close and those puppeting her would not be able to keep the image up long enough to keep the doors closed on the closets. However, they may have shot themselves in the foot.

If someone is going to replace Obama's spot it seems it should have happened before now to be successful. I previously thought it would only be two weeks then the change would happen, butt because some ballots are already printed and it would require a whole new printing of paper ballots I now think the switch would have occured earlier.

That of course would not be a problem with Diebold (electronic voting machines). And although it is an Israeli company it resides in her district, hmmm?

No we'll have to see how this plays out. This is going to be very interesting.

Streetsdreamer13 · 10-30-2008, 02:12 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Waterman

The comments about the fact that if Hillary was meant to be president they would have put her on the democratic ticket are very logical. In fact it probably would have been my position a few years ago.

However, there is a reason for not nomimating Hillary. She ran and presented the fact that she wanted the nomination, but didn't get it right? She has therefore demonstrated to the world she is interested in doing the job. Now, with this in mind let's consider the main reason for this bizzare dialectic approach.

Is is because the Clinton's have too many skeletons in the close and those puppeting her would not be able to keep the image up long enough to keep the doors closed on the closets. However, they may have shot themselves in the foot.

If someone is going to replace Obama's spot it seems it should have happened before now to be successful. I previously thought it would only be two weeks then the change would happen, butt because some ballots are already printed and it would require a whole new printing of paper ballots I now think the switch would have occured earlier.

That of course would not be a problem with Diebold (electronic voting machines). And although it is an Israeli company it resides in her district, hmmm?

No we'll have to see how this plays out. This is going to be very interesting.

Glad to see your rethought your radical theory.....no disrespect my friend but i saw that prediction of Hillary being president doomed from the start.

THE eXchanger · 10-23-2008, 01:52 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Elephant Man

I do have a feeling that waterman is on to something:

i also have the same feeling

love/susan
the eXchanger

Alysse · 10-23-2008, 03:37 AM

Isn't the birthplace of the father put on a legal birth certificate. I wonder where his two children's birth certificate name as his birth place. Then there is the marriage certificate - is the place of birth put on the application? When he was married, he might have still been claiming to be from Kenya - maybe like a badge of honor in some way. There has to be a way to get at the truth.

peaceandlove · 10-23-2008, 05:43 AM

This was just posted by mntruthseeker under What does it mean?

I thought it might be relevant to this Forum.

Andy Martin, Hawaii, Obama not Barack Obama,
FRANK MARSHALL DAVIS father,
OBAMA’S ORIGINAL BIRTH CERTIFICATE,
INCOMPLETE OR TAMPERED WITH

October 22, 2008

http://citizenwells.wordpress.com/

Quote:

mntruthseeker:

Andy Martin in Hawaii has information listing Frank Davis as Baracks father. Interesting stuff. Right out of Gramma's mouth.
When will we hear the truth? Once again my question is who is Barrack Obama?

Shellie · 10-27-2008, 03:26 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Waterman

Posted on the forum is reference to factcheck.org. FackCheck.org is a project of the Annenburg Public Policy Center funded by the Annenburg Foundation. Barack Obama was chairman and president of the Chicago Annenberg challenge. He was responsible to see that Annenburg got their annual six million dollars year after year. Do I need to say it?

The Annenberg Foundation receives huge donations from... drum roll.... ROCKEFELLER!

Actually, if you look up all of the foundations that are major donors to NPR, they are all funded by Rockefeller.

10-22-2008, 05:20 PM	#1
Waterman Avalon Senior Member Join Date: Sep 2008 Posts: 345	Re: Hillary to Be President It grieves me to think one would take pleasure in anyone not being perfect. So for those who will enjoy my back peddling, be assured that with great remorse I see no future for this country in either Obama or McCain. For me it isn't an either or choice. However, I am concerned that when running for president the candidate is not able to survive scrutiny of their credentials. Not only is Obama's birth certificate in question but his school records are in question. He is not allowing his Univ. of Chicago, or his Harvard school records to be released. When was the last time you applied for a job and said "Mr. employer I don't want you to see my records, but give me the job anyway". Posted on the forum is reference to factcheck.org. FackCheck.org is a project of the Annenburg Public Policy Center funded by the Annenburg Foundation. Barack Obama was chairman and president of the Chicago Annenberg challenge. He was responsible to see that Annenburg got their annual six million dollars year after year. Do I need to say it? This isn't about politics. This is how we are all being fleeced. This is about how they divide and conquer. It is about the stealing of our nation. And I'm not speaking about Obama. We must all jump off the wagons we ride and begin to inspect what it is carrying. And finally, nothing would please me more than for me to be completely and utterly surprised and absolutely wrong that whoever gets in the office of president is the best thing since sliced bread.......by the way did I mention I'm a Chinese fighter pilot. Last edited by Waterman; 10-22-2008 at 05:23 PM.

10-22-2008, 05:29 PM	#3
zorgon Guest Posts: n/a	Re: Hillary to Be President Hmmmm Oil Prices already dropping Arabs nervous Conservatives make major announcement to fix fuel prices just before elections. Everyone says 'Way Kewl" and McCain wins... Hey what the heck everyone else is in the prophet business I thought I would try my hand at it... Wasn't McCain born in Panama OUTSIDE the military base? Hmmmm Also blacks, hispanics and youths may say they are voting Obama... but when push comes to shove that may not be the way they vote. I would not put money on it.

10-22-2008, 05:45 PM	#4
Elephant Man Avalon Senior Member Join Date: Sep 2008 Posts: 124	Re: Hillary to Be President I want Kermit in there, at least he looks the part. Hilary? I was most suprised when she opted out of the running, then even more when she didnt get the VP position. Something just aint right (apart from the usual bs), forget birth certificates and all that stuff, there is no way that clinton has not been promised something. American elections have always been a show, but this is like a monumental soap opera! barack obama? palin? mccain? far out characters in a zany vaudeville circus, where nothing is even remotely close to real life. Glad I dont have to make a choice in november - jeez its a nuthouse! Peace - I will though be praying for calm and sending goodwill vibes

10-22-2008, 05:49 PM	#5
Topper Avalon Senior Member Join Date: Oct 2008 Posts: 140	Re: Hillary to Be President The plan is simple and was hinted at two days ago by Sen. Biden. As a result, Biden was removed from the campaign, giving the DNC time to create a diversion. You see, Biden spoke too soon and the DNC was not prepared for it. The hint, as to reason for Obama's removal, was to come after election day, after the winner had been declared, so the office of President couldn't be denied. The plan created by the DNC and Biden's BIG money friends was to reveal the true nationality of Barak Obama, leaving the evidence to be found by a N.Y. Times journalist. Not being a citizen of the U.S. Obama would be forced to surrender his position as President, leaving it open for Sen. Biden to step in. What a gaff.

10-22-2008, 09:03 PM	#7
Elephant Man Avalon Senior Member Join Date: Sep 2008 Posts: 124	Re: Hillary to Be President ok, we all get things wrong sometimes. I do have a feeling that waterman is on to something, but if its wrong, well great! he's learned something, I've learned something, we've all learned something. we've looked at the opposites, analysed all angles, done some research. Its not an empty claim, it is backed up with argument and its a lot better to come up with alternative views and be wrong, than to sit in front of the frigging tv with a bowl of popcorn and a beer end just lapping up the **** on tv. I've been a member only a short time here on avalon and man I'm learning so much! its a blast!

10-22-2008, 09:29 PM	#8
Mikill Project Avalon Member Join Date: Sep 2008 Location: Middle of Nowhere, USA,Earth Posts: 90	Re: Hillary to Be President This is way beyone ridiculous.If hillary was going to be president,She would at least be on the ballot for november.All you conspiricy theorists need something else to focus on.I heard someone on here say that Bush/Cheney are going to start WW3 on purpose blah blah....They are too stupid too live much less start the war to destroy mankind.Some things in this world happen because stupid people in power make stupid descicions.IT"S NOT A CONSPIRICY!!!!!!IT"S STUPIDITY!!!!!!!There is no underlying cause.Stop digging.

10-23-2008, 01:42 AM	#9
Waterman Avalon Senior Member Join Date: Sep 2008 Posts: 345	Re: Hillary to Be President The comments about the fact that if Hillary was meant to be president they would have put her on the democratic ticket are very logical. In fact it probably would have been my position a few years ago. However, there is a reason for not nomimating Hillary. She ran and presented the fact that she wanted the nomination, but didn't get it right? She has therefore demonstrated to the world she is interested in doing the job. Now, with this in mind let's consider the main reason for this bizzare dialectic approach. Is is because the Clinton's have too many skeletons in the close and those puppeting her would not be able to keep the image up long enough to keep the doors closed on the closets. However, they may have shot themselves in the foot. If someone is going to replace Obama's spot it seems it should have happened before now to be successful. I previously thought it would only be two weeks then the change would happen, butt because some ballots are already printed and it would require a whole new printing of paper ballots I now think the switch would have occured earlier. That of course would not be a problem with Diebold (electronic voting machines). And although it is an Israeli company it resides in her district, hmmm? No we'll have to see how this plays out. This is going to be very interesting.

10-23-2008, 03:37 AM	#12
Alysse Avalon Senior Member Join Date: Sep 2008 Location: SoCal - Magic Mountain/Mystery Mesa -1,500 above sea level Posts: 32	Re: Hillary to Be President Isn't the birthplace of the father put on a legal birth certificate. I wonder where his two children's birth certificate name as his birth place. Then there is the marriage certificate - is the place of birth put on the application? When he was married, he might have still been claiming to be from Kenya - maybe like a badge of honor in some way. There has to be a way to get at the truth.