Are people losing interest?

[Artycarl]

We have just lived through a month when the long expected financial meltdown was happening before our very eyes. This event has long been heralded as the start of the slide and together with the information from Half Past Human, Bill Deagle and to a lesser extent the Blossom Goodchild story and suddenly this slide had a date attached...we were actually going to have these huge changes happening right now.

There will be those who out of curiosity joined to 'see what all the fuss was about', the sort of person who won't actually admit they believe but all the same want to be on the 'winning side', and those whose beliefs are so shallow that at the first hurdle they think 'I knew it was all a crock'.

Personally I think the important word mentioned many times recently is fear. There was a genuine sense of fear that we were on the verge of troubled times. Fear of the unknown and fear for what were were leaving behind.

I think we will all live through many many false alarms before THE day arrives. I just hope we are not so used to the false alarms by then that we just ignore it.

I think its bcuz we had alot of sane intelligent members who were maybe getting annoyed at all the crazy posts claiming to be an alien or a channeler or a telepath or whatever without EVER giving any proof.
At least ats makes you give a source if you are gonna make a claim.I was really happy this forum was created but now I really feel like this place is full of nutcases and attention seekers.
I come here for information and its like looking for a needle in a haystack here.

[dayzero]

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[borrasca2012]

...perhaps QUALITY is coming back when quantity get"s less

[orwellsbud]

I think we somewhat miss the point, the forum was set up as a place for sharing information regarding 'Ground Crew' issues, it's not about predictions. Although they play a role in a sense that if any come to pass then we can do something about it. People have to realise that if some major catastrophe does happen, at the end of the day there isn't that much you can really do about it, yes you can be prepared, and that's a good thing...but most of these things come straight out of the blue.

I have noticed that since the forum began the threads have moved from genuine meet and greet and lets get organised (The concept behind Avalon)...To sensationalist, to the downright banal! I think that has put a lot of people off posting threads, myself included, I tend to just read, discern, digest and comment where I feel I can contribute...and not make wild claims without a shred of verifiable evidence.

P&B
OB

[Magamud]

The results are from the Elite MK/cultural/manipulation progaganda we get fed daily.

[Antaletriangle]

Hey dayzero pheasant is supposed to be 'off'-curing etc-but good on yer for adopting a change in 'shopping' lol.As for the member involvement/decline-i don't think it's of too much concern;they're probably adopting some of the more useful information that's been freely given on here such as building their local communities and preparing alternative 'devices' for future use.Preparing themselves spiritually-it may also be a nature that the membership has 'levelled out'-no doubt the ones that wish to be here are and the frustrations that are inevitable with human nature are just that short term frustrations with the info. that's been uploaded.I think members will always have a look in to see how people are and any productive news.Remember it was a massive turnout initially;this couldn't susutain itself for too long.I feel from now on there will be a very gradual member increase and the ones that get a little peeved will still lurk in the shadows.Just my thoughts.
Hope everyone's still fine and dandy out there!

[warngen]

I come to this site every day, and i'm not exaggerating. I do not post very often, as I only post when I feel my idea or information is worth sharing and looking over. I do more info input rather than info output. As said before in the above posts, when reading throughout the threads, someone comes along and posts their own ideas which are similar to mine, dissipating the need for me to post. I will say to you like I say to everyone else: The information is FREEly given, and you are under no obligation to act upon it, or criticize it.

[Harper]

Why couldn't the reason some of the predictions didn't come true be that when you talk about things like massive chaos in banking followed by this or that war etc... in a predictive way, we have all actually contributed to it not occuring. If we continue to share our thoughts predictions and premonitions then the people who are potentially planning all or any of this may be totally stopped in their tracks.

Always look at the negative space that surrounds things, look for what didn't happen because that is good news, no?

By writing on this forum we are forcing the people with the self-interested agenda to stop their plots?

Any thoughts?

[Heretic]

all things happen in cycles

I scour the internet for news, when something big happens it is totally inundated with information

then all of the sudden it gets quiet, no real news, nothing but the residuals of what has recently happened, and that slowly fades

then another dry period of little to no substantial news to only be followed up with something huge again

rinse repeat ad nauseum

I have a bad feeling that soon we will be getting hit with a big thing after big thing....boom boom boom boom

shock and awe and we will have little time to reflect and evaluate properly

I enjoy the quiet times actually, it allows me to make some posts and start some threads

peace

[Darcman]

Yea I like to watch.
but the threats are still out there

http://www.wariscrime.com/2008/10/27...world-war-iii/

Originally Posted by Darcman

Yea I like to watch.
but the threats are still out there

http://www.wariscrime.com/2008/10/27...world-war-iii/

Sorcha Faal! allready on another thread!

http://projectavalon.net/forum/showthread.php?t=6350

[micjer]

One thing I have noticed is that is less of those really negative people posting. They were trying to spoil the party. It seemed that no matter what someone posted their intention was to discredit the poster.

I say good ridance!!

I think the illuminati has sent them on to do other business..

[Heretic]

a forum without conflict

is as far away as a world without conflict

everyone who comes here has come from a unique experience

and so they will see evidence in a variety of ways

some will see angels while others see demons

and there will be conflict if we all expect to see alike

such is the way of things until a world unity arrives

so in my eyes it isn't where you go that is important

but how you deal with the information and others who see it differently

[symbolon]

Are people losing interest?

Personally i believe that there will be many who do. The general concensus from 'ordinary people' is the immortal quote "It's all very well knowing all this, but will it help me get up in the morning?" The answer of course must be that it might well help you. The value of being intelligently informed is incalculable to those who can do something with the information. Sadly, the vast majority of people have not yet 'properly' woken up to their potential.

Most people's waking-up process is very slow and usually takes a lot of time. Since it is generally assumed that time is running out fast, most people's awareness levels are simply not up to par or fragmented at best (their staunch adherence to believe in inevitable doom and gloom scenario's is testament to that), and so there will be quite a large proportion who will lose interest, believing that there is very little they can do and turn things around and change the world for the better.

I do believe that people instinctively know that what they read here is valuable, but the words simply do not reach their hearts and propel them into action. It seems just a cerebral exercise and like most exercises will have a lifespan.

[Skylark]

Originally Posted by symbolon

I do believe that people instinctively know that what they read here is valuable, but the words simply do not reach their hearts and propel them into action. It seems just a cerebral exercise and like most exercises will have a lifespan.

Which also makes the point that Avalon is tending a lot to become a talking shop rather than a doing shop.

The idea was to meet people, quite urgently, of like minds, who know whats up, or some of it, and plan for possible catastrophic events which may wipe out most of the people on the Earth.

Tomorrow morning the crazy murderous madmen who are our problem could start a nuclear war. It's possible. The first 5 mins could see EMP's detonate which would cease all electronic communications everywhere. It's possible.

What will be the course of action then? You will neither be able to read the doom and gloom on Avalon or arrange to meet people off Avalon.
People may be losing interest in sitting digesting doom and gloom at their pc or laptop. If you are one of those people then my suggestion to you is this: Make friends, arrange to meet them, go out and meet. It is very depressing reading all this stuff and wondering what the hell is happening in your head, then reaching a quiet point , lull, such as the current one and possibly losing interest, thinking you had a momentary lapse into madness. Sorry, but you haven't. If you have woken up then its silly to fall back asleep. Go meet people, its refreshing to talk in person, and will give you the boost you may need to counter the D and G. Don't sit and complain about the people who's posts you don't agree with, arrange to meet the ones whose posts you DO agree with.

As Symbalon said, this is a cerebral exercise and that has a lifespan, it needs to be followed through to a physical exercise!

Originally Posted by Norval

I would have to say, "Look within."

Well said - and from my own perspective:
it's Frustration more than a Loss of Interest.

Originally Posted by Skylark

The idea was to meet people, quite urgently, of like minds ...

That's my biggest disappointment:
Frustration with people's unwillingness to get out from behind their keyboards to meet face to face.

Followed closely by the not-so-unexpected:
Frustration with the amount of blatant disinformation spread by those who are determined to maintain the current paradigm.

[Skylark]

Do you guys think as well that its been a sort of outpouring period where all of us threw our thoughts into Avalon and unloaded in the search for answers? Even if not posting, just lurking but still there.
And to be fair we can't search for solutions without discussing the probs... but without letting this become a conspiracy forum, that's definitely not the idea

Many members enjoy conflict, drama, and conspiracy.
When things begin to calm down, it is usually a sign of peace.
Of course others that love that doom addiction say, "No. It is the calm before the storm."

But remember, everyone has an agenda.
If those needs are not fulfilled, they go elsewhere.
Avalon is a community forum that should be focusing on the future.
If you need new topics then discuss how you would like to create our future.

Bring new ideas for the Avalon community.
Share technological research. Share your spirituality.
Give us wisdom.
Teach us to learn and grow together in a new age that is coming.

I know that the gloom and doom fix is not being fulfilled for some of you.
But, this is why there are other forums that dwell in these topics.
And if you simply have run out of things to talk about, then take a break for a while. It is okay to rest.
Your inspiration comes from within.

Peace,
Suriel

[pineal-pilot-in merkabah]

lots of people perhaps are getting ready sorting out their groups and meeting in the flesh with real ideas.. we all know its coming soon.. earth changes, war, famine, gmo food, ect ect.. its just a case of when and all we can do is trawl through the bits of info and make personal decisions based on these tid bits.. i dont work so i spend all day researching online before it goes to internet 2..others are not so lucky.. they have to work in the beast system.. so if they are planning and getting equipment and supplies plus meeting then they have less time to go online..

Personally I found myself getting sucked in to the predictions of doom and gloom. It's my own fault (or my own lesson) and I found myself indulging in ego based arguments and generally being ruled by fear. Must rush out and buy food, must buy this, must organise that, before the nukes/tsunamis/earthquakes/aliens wipe us out. I found it counter-productive and it didn't serve me wll spiritually. On the other hand it WAS an important learning experience for me.

When the forum first opened there was a real optimism about the place, a real feelgood factor. That seemed to evaporate as soon as parts were locked down, and I don't think it's ever really come back. This isn't intended as criticism, just an observation. Since then the general feel of the board has gone down, and a lot more distrust has filtered in. For all the talk of forming communities and meeting face to face it just isn't happening, at least not in my area. I tried to take the first step of setting up an email list for the East Midlands and only got two names.

I've been thinking about this a lot and come to the conclusion that I already have my ground crew. They are people I already know, who have varying degrees of knowledge about what's happening and I would trust any of them with my life. More importantly it's made me realise that the first person I need to rely on is me.

I don't know what is coming or when, but if I'm not spiritually 'right' when it does then my chances are slim to zero. What will be, will be, and I'll either survive by being in the right place with the right people or I'll climb out of this 3D spacesuit and explore what comes next (again.) To me the most important preparation is spiritual because it's the ONLY thing I can work on that is guaranteed to serve me well when and if the **** hits the fan.

So now I visit less frequently and say less while I'm here. As others have said, I also find my thoughts are usually posted already and since I've taken a step back I've cancelled many posts that would fall into the category of ego-based. That's much better for all concerned.

Blessings to all

[yikes!]

Originally Posted by Sunrunner

Personally I found myself getting sucked in to the predictions of doom and gloom. It's my own fault (or my own lesson) and I found myself indulging in ego based arguments and generally being ruled by fear. Must rush out and buy food, must buy this, must organise that, before the nukes/tsunamis/earthquakes/aliens wipe us out. I found it counter-productive and it didn't serve me wll spiritually. On the other hand it WAS an important learning experience for me.

When the forum first opened there was a real optimism about the place, a real feelgood factor. That seemed to evaporate as soon as parts were locked down, and I don't think it's ever really come back. This isn't intended as criticism, just an observation. Since then the general feel of the board has gone down, and a lot more distrust has filtered in. For all the talk of forming communities and meeting face to face it just isn't happening, at least not in my area. I tried to take the first step of setting up an email list for the East Midlands and only got two names.

I've been thinking about this a lot and come to the conclusion that I already have my ground crew. They are people I already know, who have varying degrees of knowledge about what's happening and I would trust any of them with my life. More importantly it's made me realise that the first person I need to rely on is me.

I don't know what is coming or when, but if I'm not spiritually 'right' when it does then my chances are slim to zero. What will be, will be, and I'll either survive by being in the right place with the right people or I'll climb out of this 3D spacesuit and explore what comes next (again.) To me the most important preparation is spiritual because it's the ONLY thing I can work on that is guaranteed to serve me well when and if the **** hits the fan.

So now I visit less frequently and say less while I'm here. As others have said, I also find my thoughts are usually posted already and since I've taken a step back I've cancelled many posts that would fall into the category of ego-based. That's much better for all concerned.

Blessings to all

Excellent Post.

I check this site several times a day, rarely post.

I am a father of three small kids, I have their best interest at heart first. I want to be in the know, but I also want to have ignorance is bliss.

PC started attaching dates to things, and some of them started coming true, the credibility factor increased big time. This website had these ground crew guys posting like St. Claire and Henry Deacon and John Lear and then they all dissapeared. I have to seek these guys out on other forums, but the energy was defintely zapped from the lockdown. Noone of us like to see censorship even if it had its reasons.

Even Bill and Kerry disappeared for weeks no one hearing from them, their website floundering.

This in the middle of some very dire predictions that came in through some of their key folks, visions of doom and gloom, Miriam and company.

The initial set of predictions came true, we were all waiting as Elvis Costello puts it on the excellent My Aim is True album "Waiting for the end of the world", or Graham Parker off the * * * * * album "squeezing out sparks" we are "waiting for the ufos".

I don't know what we are waiting for to be honest. I do know that things are screwed up, and people of this planet are kind of nuts.

Then I also know that there are a lot of us, right here right now with huge purpose. We are the beacon of light in the darkest moments before the dawn.

I have very little to offer in posting other than good vibrations, but I will keep coming here hoping that someone "in the know" validated by the trustworthy Bill and Kerry and friends maybe give us a heads up that we needed as they did before this sept/oct economic crash.

That's only money, the heads up we all need is saving lives.

This is a very small community, and I hope people keep posting, keep valdiating and keep their BS meters on full activation so we can all help each other detect the **** from the **** hitting the fan.

[MyShadow]

Not so much a loss of interest, just waiting for the expansion and maturity of members so we can have more insightful exchanges on this board. Which I find interesting that those here in this thread are doing very well! First time in a long time.

Not trying to generalize or criticize but the first few months of activity on this board was alot of:

- my truth should be your truth and let me tell you why

- your truth is wrong, let me attack you so I can justify to myself my truth

- provide evidence of your truth to me and I'll think about it

- good vs. evil, isn't this drama cool and exciting? Let me fuel it, I'm bored.

- love and light, oneness, ideology will save us, line up with me and my stuff

- prophecy hysteria, the dogma of being dis-proved, projecting stories

- fear is entertainment, lets celebrate, you with me?

.... and so on.

Many of us are way beyond this circular dialogue. It does serve a purpose on the path of one's expansion, so don't hear this as a criticism towards those engaged on these levels - just an observation normal in a public forum.

I was initially attracted to Avalon as I felt that the energy from the initial intention was a step beyond the habitual-think and dogma of the culture-consciouness. I guess I'm on the sidelines waiting for it to rise up a few levels and would then jump right in.

[Allie]

Really interesting points

I'm not sure others always ridicule or speak from a lofty height - not if you take the view that there isn't a 'right' or a 'wrong' - there's only an opinion. To which we are all entitled

Perhaps people gravitate towards threads which suit their current position?

In respect of 'action', I'm wondering if different people are here (planet Earth) at this time for very different reasons? Perhaps there are some who will go to form communities; perhaps there are others who feel they can't really leave others if they are in distress - maybe they aren't meant to 'survive', but to help.

I've had the option to join a community but its mindset and aims are so different to mine that it just wouldn't work - and there's not much point in that. I know of others who are considering creating a community but can't find enough like-minded people who resonate with their aims/goals - and that is a really important aspect of any community. I've spoken to others who say they would prepare - but with all the various theories and beliefs around, they haven't a clue what they're preparing for! Even if you take the view that we're all going to hell in a handcart, there are still so many different scenarios that require a totally different type of preparation.

I'm probably in agreement with Sunrunner - working on your own balance is perhaps more valuable as a first step

[Swanny]

Maybe people start waking up, come here and read something that scares them so they hit the snooze button