Obama is a NWO Puppet but that does give HOPE

Ali Quadir · 11-06-2008, 02:01 PM

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Originally Posted by Arcana

Obama is bought and paid for by the NWO for that very reason.

Can you provide clear evidence for this? As far as I know Obama received most of his money by private contributions from the people. So it would seem much more likely to me to call him "Bought and paid for by the people, to make a change..." And seriously, that kind of money and that kind of support would make it possible.

So why is it one way and not the other?

I think we should be realistic about our expectations. But that goes either way... Unless there is evidence that clearly puts the man in league with the NWO we should not assume he is... Unless there is clear evidence that places him outside those circles we should not assume he is fully outside.

With all the confusion we're creating ourselves by stating gut feelings as facts we don't need an NWO to confuse us even more.

Callidon · 11-06-2008, 02:08 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Ali Quadir

Can you provide clear evidence for this? As far as I know Obama received most of his money by private contributions from the people. So it would seem much more likely to me to call him "Bought and paid for by the people, to make a change..." And seriously, that kind of money and that kind of support would make it possible.

So why is it one way and not the other?

I think we should be realistic about our expectations. But that goes either way... Unless there is evidence that clearly puts the man in league with the NWO we should not assume he is... Unless there is clear evidence that places him outside those circles we should not assume he is fully outside.

With all the confusion we're creating ourselves by stating gut feelings as facts we don't need an NWO to confuse us even more.

My feelings exactly brother

RSF · 11-06-2008, 02:51 PM

Project Camelot:
" Barack Obama is the new President-elect of the USA. We will now all have to see if he is his own man. But with advisors such as Zbigniew Brzezinski, George Bush Senior, and Bill Clinton - and having been groomed for the job for two years by a different faction of the NWO - we feel it is far from clear what the future may hold. We hope to be surprised, and wrong." Nov.5
---

Sure caught my attention this morning. I'm having difficulty finding supporting info on Obama influence from either Brzezinski or Bush1? If anyone knows a second source on the two please let me know.
As far a former Pres Clinton, I think Obama needed his support rallying in States such as Florida for election purposes.

And wanted his help in recommending some of Clinton's former cabinet appointments that he may need to jump start the long road economical recovery immediately upon becoming President? I'm still wondering if part the the Clinton help given towards Obama's election was paid in full by sending a cheque for twenty-nine million to Hillary for her Primary bid losses while slam-damning Obama?

RSF

norman · 11-06-2008, 03:05 PM

If you are so intent on taking this political stuff seriously, then at least do it properly.

Let's just assume for a moment that elite people control the government in America. I don't think many people here would disagree with that general assumption.

What these controllers have at their disposal currently is a lame duck president and an administration that vast numbers of the population are 'shaking their fists' at. From a controller's point of view, that's not good. If it were to continue they'd be forced into a position of having to 'use the troops' just to keep 'order'. That would be overt oppression. Despite Alex Jones's rantings there's no logical reason to believe they want to do that just yet.

Stealth is what they DO. After the fiasco of 9/11 and the the war on terror, they NEED to calm things down politically and get the population back into their little boxes and being nice and cooperative with the government. They need to get the numbers game back on their side again because the numbers were starting to look bad for them.

Is Obama (Bilderberg, CFR, etc) going to do that? Of course he is.

A lot of people would like to see Obama as a new broom who will clean up and put right wrongs of the Bush era. There might well be some cosmetic 'people pleasers' but he can't and won't bang up the 'crooks'. If JFK knew what we know, he wouldn't have gone to Dallas. Obama is not stupid. Don't hold your breath.

As an aside, I wonder if Bush will grant a pardon to Conrad Black (Bilderberger).

Arcana · 11-06-2008, 07:24 PM

Here is a list of some of Obamas backers

http://www.opensecrets.org/pres08/co...&cid=N00009638

Magamud · 11-06-2008, 07:53 PM

Thanks Norman for putting things in context.

11-06-2008, 02:51 PM	#3
RSF Avalon Senior Member Join Date: Sep 2008 Location: Canada Posts: 226	Re: Obama is a NWO Puppet but that does give HOPE Project Camelot: " Barack Obama is the new President-elect of the USA. We will now all have to see if he is his own man. But with advisors such as Zbigniew Brzezinski, George Bush Senior, and Bill Clinton - and having been groomed for the job for two years by a different faction of the NWO - we feel it is far from clear what the future may hold. We hope to be surprised, and wrong." Nov.5 --- Sure caught my attention this morning. I'm having difficulty finding supporting info on Obama influence from either Brzezinski or Bush1? If anyone knows a second source on the two please let me know. As far a former Pres Clinton, I think Obama needed his support rallying in States such as Florida for election purposes. And wanted his help in recommending some of Clinton's former cabinet appointments that he may need to jump start the long road economical recovery immediately upon becoming President? I'm still wondering if part the the Clinton help given towards Obama's election was paid in full by sending a cheque for twenty-nine million to Hillary for her Primary bid losses while slam-damning Obama? RSF

11-06-2008, 03:05 PM	#4
norman Avalon Senior Member Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: UK Posts: 118	Re: Obama is a NWO Puppet but that does give HOPE If you are so intent on taking this political stuff seriously, then at least do it properly. Let's just assume for a moment that elite people control the government in America. I don't think many people here would disagree with that general assumption. What these controllers have at their disposal currently is a lame duck president and an administration that vast numbers of the population are 'shaking their fists' at. From a controller's point of view, that's not good. If it were to continue they'd be forced into a position of having to 'use the troops' just to keep 'order'. That would be overt oppression. Despite Alex Jones's rantings there's no logical reason to believe they want to do that just yet. Stealth is what they DO. After the fiasco of 9/11 and the the war on terror, they NEED to calm things down politically and get the population back into their little boxes and being nice and cooperative with the government. They need to get the numbers game back on their side again because the numbers were starting to look bad for them. Is Obama (Bilderberg, CFR, etc) going to do that? Of course he is. A lot of people would like to see Obama as a new broom who will clean up and put right wrongs of the Bush era. There might well be some cosmetic 'people pleasers' but he can't and won't bang up the 'crooks'. If JFK knew what we know, he wouldn't have gone to Dallas. Obama is not stupid. Don't hold your breath. As an aside, I wonder if Bush will grant a pardon to Conrad Black (Bilderberger).

11-06-2008, 07:24 PM	#5
Arcana Avalon Senior Member Join Date: Nov 2008 Location: London Posts: 7	Re: Obama is a NWO Puppet but that does give HOPE Here is a list of some of Obamas backers http://www.opensecrets.org/pres08/co...&cid=N00009638

11-06-2008, 07:53 PM	#6
Magamud Avalon Senior Member Join Date: Sep 2008 Location: North Carolina Posts: 288	Re: Obama is a NWO Puppet but that does give HOPE Thanks Norman for putting things in context.