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both light and darkness came from the same source of the one ifinite creator! Peace
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great thread
I am actually working on a project that asks alot of the same questions and goes into great depth on how we are now echoing the same theosophy today I wont pretend to declare what it all means but it is definitely an eye opener and raises many questions about what we believe today |
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I will tell you this , if the man has been a witch, a Mormon, a Catholic Priest, a Satanic priest, a Voodoo priest, a FreeMason, and an actual blood drinking vampire of the about perhaps because he wanted to experience all, I doubt that he could be trusted when he said he is a born again Christian, he may be now experiencing that also. To me this guy seems more of a pathological liar to make money off of the stuff that he sells. ![]() |
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I have been following this new age revolution for decades now
I will state here for the record that it is so interwoven with so many other movements and agendas that it is difficult to tell where some peoples agenda leaves off and another set of agendas begins You can certainly look at this stuff from one perspective and have your answers with all clarity but once you step out of that perspective different and even more relative questions remain to be answered we can say, fallen angels, light beings, guardian angels, and aliens benign and malevolent could be a source of the information that poured out of the turn of the 20th century, as well as some of the most planet altering "inventions" did yet we can also look back to biblical times, and the relationships between angels and people and see a pattern that is emerging even today with channeled information appearing everywhere all this coupled with the fact that almost every religion promises a "return" begs one to re-evaluate in what form this return will be the ideas of taking care of the earth, loving one another as if we are all one are hardly messages of evil tempting us down the path towards an eternity in hell in fact most of it makes common sense, yet also could be a foundation for countless negative agendas as well, just as religion has always been used this way some could say It is certainly clear that our current path of materialism and consumerism is leading us all down a negative path and there are people who are in no way associated with ANY agenda from Eskimos to Aborigine tribes and the peoples of the amazon and Zulu nations, all echoing the same ideology of taking care of the planet and some conclude that the planet is also a living being I can only assume from what I see today concerning MOST conspiracy that: there is not just one, or even two agendas happening here and we are most likely dealing with many agendas warring with each other for control and supremacy any attempt to pin point who is doing what will be met with a gross mis-estimate based on tainted information to a complete lack of any real evidence due to the fact that there are so many agendas occurring simultaneously that they are all trying to dis-credit one another in an attempt to cover their own trail I have found nothing concrete as far as evidence goes as I believe that the introduction to this new age movement is ancient, which pops up here and there throughout mans history, some could say that we keep seeing prophecy as well as a fulfillment of holy ideals occurring over and over through history in any case, I find very little difference between all the religions of the world, much less this new age one, and there is a distinct possibility that we have been getting groomed since day one and we are still being groomed today it is hard to let go of the old beliefs and it has always been from the beginning, yet despite all that, it happens anyway and perhaps this is what we are witnessing now and of course we see it as an agenda because it is one |
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as far as agendas go...here is a good source of how this new age mentality has been warped by the powers that be to suite their own agenda
It involves studies and meetings between the world leaders concerning findings found by the Club of Rome which is just a think tank directed at world crisis management as well as crisis creation The Green Agenda Quote:
In searching for a new enemy to unite us, we came up with the idea that pollution, the threat of global warming, water shortages, famine and the like would fit the bill. All these dangers are caused by human intervention, and it is only through changed attitudes and behavior that they can be overcome. The real enemy then, is humanity itself." - Club of Rome, premier environmental think-tank consultants to the United Nations ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ "We need to get some broad based support, to capture the public's imagination... So we have to offer up scary scenarios, make simplified, dramatic statements and make little mention of any doubts... Each of us has to decide what the right balance is between being effective and being honest." - Stephen Schneider, Stanford Professor of Climatology, lead author of many IPCC reports ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ "Unless we announce disasters no one will listen." - Sir John Houghton, first chairman of IPCC ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ "It doesn't matter what is true, it only matters what people believe is true." - Paul Watson, co-founder of Greenpeace ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ "We've got to ride this global warming issue. Even if the theory of global warming is wrong, we will be doing the right thing in terms of economic and environmental policy." - Timothy Wirth, President of the UN Foundation ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ "No matter if the science of global warming is all phony... climate change provides the greatest opportunity to bring about justice and equality in the world." - Christine Stewart, fmr Canadian Minister of the Environment ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ "The climate crisis is not a political issue, it is a moral and spiritual challenge to all of humanity. It is also our greatest opportunity to lift Global Consciousness to a higher level." - Al Gore, Nobel Peace Prize acceptance speech ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ "The only way to get our society to truly change is to frighten people with the possibility of a catastrophe." - emeritus professor Daniel Botkin ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ "We are on the verge of a global transformation. All we need is the right major crisis..." - David Rockefeller, Club of Rome executive member ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ "Humanity is sitting on a time bomb. If the vast majority of the world's scientists are right, we have just ten years to avert a major catastrophe that could send our entire planet's climate system into a tail-spin of epic destruction involving extreme weather, floods, droughts, epidemics and killer heat waves beyond anything we have ever experienced - a catastrophe of our own making." - Al Gore, An Inconvenient Truth ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ "We are getting close to catastrophic tipping points, despite the fact that most people barely notice the warming yet." - Dr James Hansen, NASA researcher ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ "By the end of this century climate change will reduce the human population to a few breeding pairs surviving near the Arctic." - Sir James Lovelock, Revenge of Gaia ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ "Climate Change will result in a catastrophic global sea level rise of seven meters. That's bye-bye most of Bangladesh, Netherlands, Florida and would make London the new Atlantis." - Greenpeace International ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ "This planet is on course for a catastrophe. The existence of Life itself is at stake." - Dr Tim Flannery, Principal Research Scientist ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ "Climate Change is the greatest threat that human civilization has ever faced." - Angela Merkel, German Chancellor ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ "Climate change is real. Not only is it real, it's here, and its effects are giving rise to a frighteningly new global phenomenon: the man-made natural disaster." - Barak Obama, US Presidential Candidate ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ "We simply must do everything we can in our power to slow down global warming before it is too late." - Arnold Schwarzenegger, Governor of California ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ "Climate change should be seen as the greatest challenge to ever face mankind." - Prince Charles ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ "Climate change makes us all global citizens, we are truly all in this together." - Gordon Brown, British Prime Minister ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ "We have reached the critical moment of decision on climate change. Failure to act to now would be deeply and unforgivably irresponsible. We urgently require a global environmental revolution." - Tony Blair, former British PM ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ "We are close to a time when all of humankind will envision a global agenda that encompasses a kind of Global Marshall Plan to address the causes of poverty and suffering and environmental destruction all over the earth." - Al Gore, Earth in the Balance ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ "In Nature organic growth proceeds according to a Master Plan, a Blueprint. Such a ‘master plan’ is missing from the process of growth and development of the world system. Now is the time to draw up a master plan for sustainable growth and world development based on global allocation of all resources and a new global economic system. Ten or twenty years form today it will probably be too late." - Club of Rome, Mankind at the Turning Point ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ "We need a new paradigm of development in which the environment will be a priority. World civilization as we know it will soon end. We have very little time and we must act. If we can address the environmental problem, it will have to be done within a new system, a new paradigm. We have to change our mindset, the way humankind views the world." - Mikhail Gorbachev, State of the World Forum ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ "The concept of national sovereignty has been immutable, indeed a sacred principle of international relations. It is a principle which will yield only slowly and reluctantly to the new imperatives of global environmental cooperation." - UN Commission on Global Governance report ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ "Democracy is not a panacea. It cannot organize everything and it is unaware of its own limits. These facts must be faced squarely. Sacrilegious though this may sound, democracy is no longer well suited for the tasks ahead. The complexity and the technical nature of many of today’s problems do not always allow elected representatives to make competent decisions at the right time." - Club of Rome, The First Global Revolution ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ "The emerging 'environmentalization' of our civilization and the need for vigorous action in the interest of the entire global community will inevitably have multiple political consequences. Perhaps the most important of them will be a gradual change in the status of the United Nations. Inevitably, it must assume some aspects of a world government." - Mikhail Gorbachev, State of the World Forum ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ "I envisage the prinicles of the Earth Charter to be a new form of the ten commandments. They lay the foundation for a sustainable global earth community." - Mikhail Gorbachev, co-author of The Earth Charter ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ "In my view, after fifty years of service in the United Nations system, I perceive the utmost urgency and absolute necessity for proper Earth government. There is no shadow of a doubt that the present political and economic systems are no longer appropriate and will lead to the end of life evolution on this planet. We must therefore absolutely and urgently look for new ways." - Dr Robert Muller, UN Assistant Secretary General, ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ "Nations are in effect ceding portions of their sovereignty to the international community and beginning to create a new system of international environmental governance as a means of solving otherwise unmanageable crises." - Lester Brown, WorldWatch Institute ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ "Regionalism must precede globalism. We foresee a seamless system of governance from local communities, individual states, regional unions and up through to the United Nations itself." - UN Commission on Global Governance ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ "A keen and anxious awareness is evolving to suggest that fundamental changes will have to take place in the world order and its power structures, in the distribution of wealth and income. Perhaps only a new and enlightened humanism can permit mankind to negotiate this transition." - Club of Rome, Mankind at the Turning Point ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ "The alternative to the existing world order can only emerge as a result of a new human dimension of progress. We envision a revolution of the mind, a new way of thinking." - Mikhail Gorbachev, State of the World Forum ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ "We require a central organizing principle - one agreed to voluntarily. Minor shifts in policy, moderate improvement in laws and regulations, rhetoric offered in lieu of genuine change - these are all forms of appeasement, designed to satisfy the public’s desire to believe that sacrifice, struggle and a wrenching transformation of society will not be necessary." - Al Gore, Earth in the Balance ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ "Adopting a central organizing principle... means embarking on an all-out effort to use every policy and program, every law and institution... to halt the destruction of the environment." - Al Gore, Earth in the Balance ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ "Effective execution of Agenda 21 will require a profound reorientation of all human society, unlike anything the world has ever experienced a major shift in the priorities of both governments and individuals and an unprecedented redeployment of human and financial resources. This shift will demand that a concern for the environmental consequences of every human action be integrated into individual and collective decision-making at every level." - UN Agenda 21 ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ "The current course of development is thus clearly unsustainable. Current problems cannot be solved by piecemeal measures. More of the same is not enough. Radical change from the current trajectory is not an option, but an absolute necessity. Fundamental economic, social and cultural changes that address the root causes of poverty and environmental degradation are required and they are required now." – from the Earth Charter website ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ "Isn't the only hope for the planet that the industrialized civilizations collapse? Isn't it our responsiblity to bring that about?" - Maurice Strong, founder of the UN Environment Programme ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ "A massive campaign must be launched to de-develop the United States. De-development means bringing our economic system into line with the realities of ecology and the world resource situation." - Paul Ehrlich, Professor of Population Studies ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ "The only hope for the world is to make sure there is not another United States. We can't let other countries have the same number of cars, the amount of industrialization, we have in the US. We have to stop these Third World countries right where they are." - Michael Oppenheimer, Environmental Defense Fund ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ "Global Sustainability requires the deliberate quest of poverty, reduced resource consumption and set levels of mortality control." - Professor Maurice King ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ "We must make this an insecure and inhospitable place for capitalists and their projects. We must reclaim the roads and plowed land, halt dam construction, tear down existing dams, free shackled rivers and return to wilderness millions of acres of presently settled land." - David Foreman, co-founder of Earth First! ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ "Complex technology of any sort is an assault on human dignity. It would be little short of disastrous for us to discover a source of clean, cheap, abundant energy, because of what we might do with it." - Amory Lovins, Rocky Mountain Institute ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ "The prospect of cheap fusion energy is the worst thing that could happen to the planet." - Jeremy Rifkin, Greenhouse Crisis Foundation ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ "Giving society cheap, abundant energy would be the equivalent of giving an idiot child a machine gun." - Prof Paul Ehrlich, Stanford University ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ "Our insatiable drive to rummage deep beneath the surface of the earth is a willful expansion of our dysfunctional civilization into Nature." - Al Gore, Earth in the Balance ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ "The big threat to the planet is people: there are too many, doing too well economically and burning too much oil." – Sir James Lovelock, BBC Interview ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ "My three main goals would be to reduce human population to about 100 million worldwide, destroy the industrial infrastructure and see wilderness, with it’s full complement of species, returning throughout the world." -Dave Foreman, co-founder of Earth First! ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ "Current lifestyles and consumption patterns of the affluent middle class - involving high meat intake, use of fossil fuels, appliances, air-conditioning, and suburban housing - are not sustainable." - Maurice Strong, Rio Earth Summit ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ "Mankind is the most dangerous, destructive, selfish and unethical animal on the earth." - Michael Fox, vice-president of The Humane Society ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ "Humans on the Earth behave in some ways like a pathogenic micro-organism, or like the cells of a tumor." - Sir James Lovelock, Healing Gaia ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ "The Earth has cancer and the cancer is Man." - Club of Rome, Mankind at the Turning Point ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ "A cancer is an uncontrolled multiplication of cells; the population explosion is an uncontrolled multiplication of people. We must shift our efforts from the treatment of the symptoms to the cutting out of the cancer. The operation will demand many apparently brutal and heartless decisions.'' - Prof Paul Ehrlich, The Population Bomb ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ "I don't claim to have any special interest in natural history, but as a boy I was made aware of the annual fluctuations in the number of game animals and the need to adjust the cull to the size of the surplus population." - Prince Philip, preface of Down to Earth ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ "A reasonable estimate for an industrialized world society at the present North American material standard of living would be 1 billion. At the more frugal European standard of living, 2 to 3 billion would be possible." - United Nations, Global Biodiversity Assessment ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ "A total population of 250-300 million people, a 95% decline from present levels, would be ideal." - Ted Turner, founder of CNN and major UN donor ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ "... the resultant ideal sustainable population is hence more than 500 million but less than one billion." - Club of Rome, Goals for Mankind ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ "One America burdens the earth much more than twenty Bangladeshes. This is a terrible thing to say. In order to stabilize world population,we must eliminate 350,000 people per day. It is a horrible thing to say, but it's just as bad not to say it." - Jacques Cousteau, UNESCO Courier ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ "If I were reincarnated I would wish to be returned to earth as a killer virus to lower human population levels." - Prince Philip, Duke of Edinburgh, patron of the World Wildlife Fund ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ "I suspect that eradicating small pox was wrong. It played an important part in balancing ecosystems." - John Davis, editor of Earth First! Journal ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ "The extinction of the human species may not only be inevitable but a good thing." - Christopher Manes, Earth First! ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ "Childbearing should be a punishable crime against society, unless the parents hold a government license. All potential parents should be required to use contraceptive chemicals, the government issuing antidotes to citizens chosen for childbearing." - David Brower, first Executive Director of the Sierra Club ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ "The fate of mankind, as well as of religion, depends upon the emergence of a new faith in the future. Armed with such a faith, we might find it possible to resanctify the earth." - Al Gore, Earth in the Balance ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ "The greatest hope for the Earth lies in religionists and scientists uniting to awaken the world to its near fatal predicament and then leading mankind out of the bewildering maze of international crises into the future Utopia of humanist hope." - Club of Rome, Goals for Mankind ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ "What an incredible planet in the universe this will be when we will be one human family living in justice, peace, love and harmony with our divine Earth, with each other and with the heavens." - Robert Muller, UN Assistant Secretary General ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ "The earth is literally our mother, not only because we depend on her for nurture and shelter but even more because the human species has been shaped by her in the womb of evolution.... Our salvation depends upon our ability to create a religion of nature." - Rene Dubos, board member, Planetary Citizens ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ "Each element, plant, insect, fish and animal represents a certain aspect of Gaia's - and our - being. In a way, we are Gaia's intelligence and awareness - currently lost in self-destructive madness. We must acknowledge, respect and love her for being the Mother she is to us or we deny our very selves. Nurture the Mother as she nurtures us." - Prof. Michael J. Cohen, Ecopsychologist ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ "It is the responsibility of each human being today to choose between the force of darkness and the force of light. We must therefore transform our attitudes, and adopt a renewed respect for the superior laws of Divine Nature." - Maurice Strong, first Secretary General of UNEP ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ "The spirit of our planet is stirring! The Consciousness of Goddess Earth is now rising against all odds, in spite of millennia of suppression, repression and oppression inflicted on Her by a hubristic and misguided humanity. The Earth is a living entity, a biological organism with psychic and spiritual dimensions. With the expansion of the patriarchal religions that focused on a male God majestically stationed in Heaven ruling over the Earth and the Universe, the memory of our planet's innate Divinity was repressed and banished into the collective unconscious of humanity." - Envision Earth ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ "Still more important is the implication that the evolution of homo sapiens, with his technological inventiveness and his increasingly subtle communications network, has vastly increased Gaia's range of perception. She is now through us awake and aware of herself. She has seen the reflection of her fair face through the eyes of astronauts and the television cameras of orbiting spacecraft. Our sensations of wonder and pleasure, our capacity for conscious thought and speculation, our restless curiosity and drive are hers to share. This new interrelationship of Gaia with man is by no means fully established; we are not yet a truly collective species, corralled and tamed as an integral part of the biosphere, as we are as individual creatures. It may be that the destiny of mankind is to become tamed, so that the fierce, destructive, and greedy forces of tribalism and nationalism are fused into a compulsive urge to belong to the commonwealth of all creatures which constitutes Gaia." – Sir James Lovelock, Gaia: A New Look At Life ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ "Little by little a planetary prayer book is thus being composed by an increasingly united humanity seeking its oneness. Once again, but this time on a universal scale, humankind is seeking no less than its reunion with 'divine,' its transcendence into higher forms of life. Hindus call our earth Brahma, or God, for they rightly see no difference between our earth and the divine. This ancient simple truth is slowly dawning again upon humanity, as we are about to enter our cosmic age and become what we were always meant to be: the planet of god." - Robert Muller, UN Assistant Secretary General ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ "What if Mary is another name for Gaia? Then her capacity for virgin birth is no miracle . . . it is a role of Gaia since life began . . . She is of this Universe and, conceivably, a part of God. On Earth, she is the source of life everlasting and is alive now; she gave birth to humankind and we are part of her." - Sir James Lovelock, Ages of Gaia ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ "Nature is my god. To me, nature is sacred; trees are my temples and forests are my cathedrals." - Mikhail Gorbachev, Green Cross International ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ "The spiritual sense of our place in nature... can be traced to the origins of human civilization.... The last vestige of organized goddess worship was eliminated by Christianity." - Al Gore, Earth in the Balance ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ "Christianity is our foe. If animal rights is to succeed, we must destroy the Judeo-Christian Religious tradition." - Peter Singer, founder of Animal Rights ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ "I pledge allegiance to the Earth and all its sacred parts. Its water, land and living things and all its human hearts." - Global Education Associates, The Earth Pledge ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ "By fostering a deep sense of connection to others and to the earth in all its dimensions, holistic education encourages a sense of responsibility to self to others and to the planet." - Global Alliance for Transforming Education ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ "The earth is not dead matter. She is alive. Now begin to speak to the earth as you walk. You can speak out loud, or just talk to her in your mind. Send your love into her with your exhalation. Feel your heart touching upon the heart of the planet. Say to her whatever words come to you: Mother Earth, I love you. Mother Earth, I bless you. May you be healed. May all your creatures be happy. Peace to you, Mother Earth. On behalf of the human race, I ask forgiveness for having injured you. Forgive us, Mother Earth" - US Student Textbook, "Prayer to the Earth" my question remains: who is leading who? |
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[QUOTE=BeaTnik-BandiT;80829]Good post.
We now know for sure, those who are MIS-leading us. ![]() salute.[/QUOTE Hey BeaT nik i feel that it is our ignorance myself included, misleading us. One of the secrets of all secrets is that the English language is a cryptic cipher that is used against the general public as a master weapon of control.There has not been one whistle blower who has revealed the code,instead they use it on their truth seeking audience. ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() |
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Oh no!
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Study to show thyself approved unto God, a workman that needeth not to be ashamed, rightly dividing the word of truth. 16 But shun profane and vain babblings:
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Follow your intuition.
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lol global warming
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i dont care, i know the good guys will win in the end, i think it would be funny and ironic iv they united the world then collapsed themselves.
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You place yourself in grave danger if you are indeed blowing the whistle, so why not do it all out? By the same tken, as has been said in the Disclosure Project, we need to take the attitude that there will be zero accountability for full disclosure. Now that would be a good positive movement, forgiveness wins where hatred and anger blinds. Z |
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Hi all!!!
theres Here a Great, Great Great documentary about the Origins of the new age, it's luciferianism and it's relationship with some "Truthseekers" who are New World (dis)order Desinfo: The New Age Infiltration of the Truth Movement Cheeeeerz! |
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The 'New Age' is merely an umbrella term for a wide range of belief structures.
So its all debunked?!?!?! Great where does that leave us then? Ok you are now just a human living on panet earth and thats all we really know (even that is debatable). I keep hoping there is a GOD so then I'll have someone to blame for everything. |
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I dont really buy into the 'good/evil/lucifer/god' thing. Good and evil are in the eye's of the beholder methinks.
Lets just say we are being controlled and manipulated, ok then what? Why are we being controlled and to what end? What is the end purpose? Are we merely food for reptillian aliens? Are we slaves bred just to mine the earth of its resources? What ever it may be is any of that any different to humans farming animals for food? Do cows think that we are evil controllers? Do we eat cows cos we hate them or cos we are evil? Can we just blame humans for their bad behaviour when they've probably been tampered with since the dawn of time? Think of a child that does someting stupid or dangerous, you dont blame or hate the child for it cos you know that the child just doesnt know any better. I think the biggest hurdle that humans must overcome is to understand that just because we believe something it doesnt make it an absolute truth. If we continue to buy into the good and evil story, we'll just see the 'divide and conquer' game played out over and over again. |
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Drunvalo Melchizedek=luciferian teaching!!!!
Ra the law of one is the same thing Check out the Title of his book "Serpent of Light beyond 2012" And look ad the picture. It is a Piramid with the all All Seeing Eye on the front page ![]() I read it and half a year a go and came across a sex ritual in this book when I did get this strang feeling there was soming not right, bud did not no what it was. It is like now duhhhh it right in your face!! Serpent Man = HU man meaning demon attached to you. You can have multiple of those attached to you inserting thought patterns in your brain. For example it can make you go drink alcohol. If you can't stop even if you want to. Mostly likely you have heavy metal poisoning and need a detox, because heavy metals make your aura weak!!!!! If you do not get the optimal nutritions in your body then it can make your body aura weaker!! |
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A very informed scamer should be hehe For a lot of years he has been doing therapy to addicts and behaving like a spiritual non-iliterated being haha. But is something else... G O D is the Only "disease" without a cure! hehehehe Cheers! Last edited by Ashatav; 11-17-2008 at 09:26 AM. |
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Hi all!
I found this quote from Randall A. Baer He wrote about the nature of the new age agenda, "This agenda is nothing less than the complete revolutionizing of the very foundations of not only America but the entire world. Such a plan calls for the total restructuring of planetary civilization into an enlightened One World Federation in which national boundaries and sovereignty are secondary, and 'planetary citizenship' in the 'global village' is the order of the day. This (conspiracy) offers a world in desperate need a grand solution to profound global problems. Apparent world peace and unprecedented opportunities ... are to be unveiled." Sounds familiar? Get his "Inside The New Age Nightmare". Cheerzzz |
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Hi everyone!!!
Here's a link to an AMAAAZING interview with Carolyn Hamlett, the last illuminati whistleblower talking about everything: About the illuminati and how they think, About they think that they worship god but they workship luci-man, About the Ascended Masters scam, About her realization that they worship a being who loose 2000 years ago, about who they are deceived in every level and in every form because that being is the master of deception, the hierarchy of power, About how the "fallen angels" with they offsprings try to eliminate phisically and spiritually the manking (bad loosers), about how the "tibetean ascende master" dictates the books of alice a bailey and h blavasky and how Carolyn interacted with it, The chiping, About the deamons who scam people in a Lot of ways, like they shapes like alines or wathever, About the movies, who are desinformation (like "angels and demons" and "da vinci code") About who the jesus of the new age isn't JOSHUA and is really, this new-age-jesus, a scamer deamon, About how the "dark side" uses you when you enter in new age things, About his interect with positive entities and her reborn (read this book: http://www.amazon.com/Beautiful-Side.../dp/0890813221) About how polstergeist and similar situations are because allways some family member or someone close "open the door" for these experiences, About if you are a True truthseeker you must Not be afraid about what you find, About what everithing about G O D is REAL, like, for us, the computer you are watching, About how the editorial "lucis trust" founded by alice a bailey makes new age books for childs, About how the UFO's thing comes to upset the mentality of cristianity (the planet x footage are a Jesuit one, remember that), but really are... Demonic! and her experiences with "grey aliens" and how they cannot overpower a person with G O D inside, About how the person who have G O D inside is imune to witchcraft and similars, About the Myth of Zeitgeist movie and how it is Totally Incorrect and is Propaganda For NWO (see my link), and how it blind the people about the bigger picture and spiritual issue,. About the infiltration of truth movement with people who says some truth but mixed with NWO satanic lies, like Zeitgeist, Tsarion, Watt, and others, About the "saviours" who are elected to clean the house are promoted by the same globalist (see OBAMA) About how G O D loves us, and Joshua, his Word, the Messiah, Saves Us. http://www.blogtalkradio.com/teotwawkii2 90 minutes of pure good information! ![]() Cheeeeeerzoo Last edited by Ashatav; 11-24-2008 at 10:44 AM. |
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You can run on for a long time.
Whats done in the dark will be brought to the light ![]() http://ca.youtube.com/watch?v=e_2aX-784sw |
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The book Acid Dreams by Martin A. Lee, Bruce Shlain - 1985 - Medical - 384 pages Here is a link http://books.google.com/books?id=e39...result#PPP1,M1
Scientific Intelligence Memorandum Potential New Agent for Unconventional Warfare By your loving CIA Who do you think the warfare is against? There is a war against us and they use the hegelian dialectic on us. Which covers both sides of an argument and through sythesis/treatise they get us where they want, which is to continue their deceptive manipulation of the human species. Sure Leary and that time were anti establishment but which establishment is the question. And surely it was not the real establishment that is enslaving us. They do this because they know there are people who don’t take to the programming. The whole sixties movement (Music, LSD, Eastern philosophy, gurus, UFO's, channeling, occult groups) was to capture those inclined to metaphysical concepts. To insure they would run around in the Orobourus while the Elite Nazis could continue infiltration of the govt, FDA, EPA, NSA, FBI, NGO's nuclear regulation committee, WWF world wildlife fund, Major Media, industrial military complex, drug running, third world genocide, etc.... So while people are trying to figure how to get their light bodies and understand this enormous labyrinth of occult concepts and symbology the Elite are free to go about their business of world techno control right under your noses. Just look at this board its filled with it. More specific look at the posts after this one. Im sure there will be a jewel. The best one for me is India and the cast system. To think you are born into poverty because it’s your karma and if you break out of this mold you will increase your karma for your next life. So you better be sure to cooperate with the status quo in this one. A tyrant’s wet dream yes? A beautiful cultural setup with truth and lies mixed up to keep you confused and obedient. And it’s not just this culture movement I’m afraid it's all cultural movements for a very long time. See we are in a planned corporate agenda run by the Elite who have unlimited funds to put into their NGO's non governmental organizations who then front non profit organizations who then recruit all the great thinkers from their ivy league colleges and give them big grants and fund think tanks to try and control you over generations and generations. Its called the "Great Work" to try and improve man. Here is another key into this matrix. His name is Norman Dodd (June 29, 1899 – January 1987) was a chief investigator in 1953 for U.S. Congressman B. Carroll Reece Special Committee on Tax Exempt. This man learns about the matrix in 1953. Its colossal to think that was 55 years ago. http://video.google.com/videoplay?do...01783240489827 My strongest suggestion is to listen to Alan Watt for at least a month and let his knowledge soak in. Good Luck folks and as always Godspeed. |
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