The Goodbye Thread / Options To stay

[franciejones]

Ruby Tuesday and slywinkl...If either of you have seen the work on Project Camelot you would not have any of the questions/complaints that you have now. The fact that the both of you are so unwilling to see reason, contribute ( and I do not mean the arguements you have "contributed") or be understanding is appalling. You have NOTHING to lose. There are thousands of forums to "talk" or "rant" on. This forum (if you actually read its purpose) is not for what you are doing right now, this minute, in this thread. GO AND READ the forum guidelines and please follow them. I was ready to pay from day ONE and so were others from the Project Camelot website. I am very very tired of seeing Bill and Kerry and the moderators here ATTACKED verbally. It is disgusting! It is NOT OKAY. It is NOT WELCOME (in my opinion)

AND YES!!!!! if a paid subscription will weed this BULL**** out ...then I can hardly wait another second for it.

Originally Posted by franciejones

Ruby Tuesday and slywinkl...If either of you have seen the work on Project Camelot you would not have any of the questions/complaints that you have now. .

I love it.

A donation based board with one requirement for membership; you must pass
a one hundred question multiple choice exam with 70% or better covering the
Camelot material.

Hardly too much to ask to require an informed membership, and it might help some poor wayward soul who stumbled in here thinking it was a quilting guild..

[capreycorn]

[franciejones]

Yes! Yes! Baggywrinkle...I was thinking the same THING....lol. So awesome. Love to you ....membership test would be beautiful. Probably not realistic but boy it sure would help.

[RubyTuesday]

Originally Posted by franciejones

Ruby Tuesday and slywinkl...If either of you have seen the work on Project Camelot you would not have any of the questions/complaints that you have now. The fact that the both of you are so unwilling to see reason, contribute ( and I do not mean the arguements you have "contributed") or be understanding is appalling. You have NOTHING to lose. There are thousands of forums to "talk" or "rant" on. This forum (if you actually read its purpose) is not for what you are doing right now, this minute, in this thread. GO AND READ the forum guidelines and please follow them. I was ready to pay from day ONE and so were others from the Project Camelot website. I am very very tired of seeing Bill and Kerry and the moderators here ATTACKED verbally. It is disgusting! It is NOT OKAY. It is NOT WELCOME (in my opinion)

AND YES!!!!! if a paid subscription will weed this BULL**** out ...then I can hardly wait another second for it.

Nobody is being attacked by me though I certainly feel attacked. I find it appalling that you think it's okay that only people who can pay should be able to post unless they resort to asking for charity. I think it's elitist and a sad way to be. It also saddens me that so many were/are unable to see any other way to raise money than to charge people to post thus shutting out ideas from anyone who can't pay and as well as those who refuse to participate in the OLD PARADIGM of pay to play. Step outside your box, the air is fresher out here. Read my posts again. All of them. I'm all for donations and helping B & K. I truly respect what they have done and look forward to the future- but I won't contribute to the elitism energetically. It's bad karma and doesn't feel right. Enlighten yourself a bit, it's a good feeling.

I have read the rules and guidelines. I know that under a paid subscription that I would pay to post information to help others and in return those posts belong to PA as their property. Interesting.

Please don't stick your words in my mouth. You have no idea what I'm thinking or why I'm standing up right now. It is FOR the people who won't have a voice. It's for a forum that would suffer if it went paid because there are MANY people here who refuse to participate. All these cool threads you read with all the great ideas- many of those contributors will be gone and have said so already. Many others will just be lurking, never posting or sharing valuable information here- it will go elsewhere.

I'm not ranting, it's called a discussion. Conflicting ideas does not equal ranting. It's how we grow and learn. Look at post histories before you make empty accusations. You might want to look at the thread that Karen started before jumping on people you know NOTHING about and see that some of us have willingly offered to DONATE more than enough to cover our membership and more. And for future reference, it's more mature to express your opinions without using foul language. It's also smart to get your facts straight before calling someone out.

[RubyTuesday]

Originally Posted by franciejones

I agree with GregorArturo 100%

Also, I think it is important to respect the opinion of the threadstarter. It is important that we do not "attack" people for stating their viewpoint.

It might help some if before you reply to a thread-

Check your motives
Step outside of yourself first..some replies turn into arguments that are not always needed

This is just my opinion of course...

Sound advice given in another thread. You might want to take it yourself.

Oh also, I think it is bloody marvelous that those who can afford a few extra quid, are willing to help someone who cannot afford to pay any form of dues to continue, I will happily pay for some one elses dues but can only afford one.

Originally Posted by RubyTuesday

Step outside your box, the air is fresher out here. :

and this is not elitist and condescending?

[RubyTuesday]

Originally Posted by Baggywrinkle

and this is not elitist and condescending?

Not given the point I was making within the context of the entire post. As a snippet, it sure is. Make of it what you will. Karen worked to get us donation based and I for one am thrilled.

Oh come on guys.

What ever you believe this funding method is all about, we are now just fighting amonst yourselves with words, some quite nasty too.

If the **** actually did hit the fan, would you really want to find out that the next person you are going to rely on for maybe even your life is some one that you had a mud throwing match with. Would this encourage you?

Originally Posted by Donny

Oh come on guys.

What ever you believe this funding method is all about, we are now just fighting amonst yourselves with words, some quite nasty too.

If the **** actually did hit the fan, would you really want to find out that the next person you are going to rely on for maybe even your life is some one that you had a mud throwing match with. Would this encourage you?

As long as you argue to an amicable resolution, or at least to the point of agreeing to disagree on opposing sides of an argument. As opposed to being contentious....

There is nothing wrong with a spirited debate. But when it bogs down in an endless cycle of back biting, it is then time to bury it in the pasture and never speak of it again

[GregorArturo]

I am disappointed with the group at large. Very disappointed.

Originally Posted by GregorArturo

I am disappointed with the group at large. Very disappointed.

Are any of you dissapointed with anything I have said in the last 3 posts, because if you are then, I have no place here and I appologise to any I might have offended and most of all appologise to the person whome would have recieved a simple gift of membership.

[GregorArturo]

Donny, you are a good person. No worries from my part. It has to do with the fueding and undermining of principles.

Thankyou,

.

The fact that there is a goodbye thread is a message in itself. There is so much wasted energy here. This is the only forum that I have visited that has been so full of mentally unstable people. Avalon is a good nut trap.

I have witnessed so much confusion, anger, mind battles, and unexpected surprises. The final result is that there are many people here that are lost looking for answers. But the irony is you are looking for some inside knowledge of the truth of why we are here. What will happen to us in 2012? Will the world end? When do I buy my backpack and stick my thumb in the air looking for a community?

Well, if Avalon is an example of a new community, I would definitely look elsewhere. I recommend watching the movie "the Beach" Good movie.

All it takes is one unstable person and the community is in Chaos. This is everyday life. You can't run from your problems. You must face them head on. If you want answers. Here is your answer: All we have is each other.
That's it. No more theories or surprises. There is a responsibility that we must deal with in our actions when it comes to our race on this planet.

And for all the wasted energy, insults, and wasted bickering over very small things, this will not help anything. The way I see it, use this forum if you can gain something from it. If not, don't log in. You don't need to say goodbye. We are already connected. If you don't have anything positive or productive to say, say nothing. This would make Avalon a much more enjoyable place.
There I go using that word "enjoy" again. lol.

Peace,
Suriel

Suriel Very well put.

[Heretic]

Most of you here were drawn here by the Project Camelot videos; videos that have changed the way some of us view the world and do not deny their importance or value. Clearly a lot of money has gone into bringing this information out, and most here would agree that if Project Camelot, her mission and purpose, were to end, then we would all lose potentially important, perhaps even critical information, as coming events play out.

With a very small fee, of only one dollar a month, you could become a part of disclosure itself. To help fuel Project Camelot to stay the course in uncovering truths that have been denied us, as enlightening, doomy gloomy, or as controversial some perceive them to be.

On the pages of these forums I see phrases like Namasté, I read how love is the answer to our problems, and I see complaints that there is nothing “we the people” can do to change the situation forced on us by the powers that be, yet when a way DOES presents itself, people get lost in principles, and things concerning money. Sad. Its money. Just one dollar a month. A system is being set up that will even allow you to post for free because someone else here cares enough that you need to, and will pay your way. One dollar!

Seems to me that Bill and Kerry NEED these dollars to continue to do their work but you make your judgments, and you feel proud of your stance safeguarding that very important dollar, and the principles that it represents. Are you willing to let Camelot end so you won’t have to sacrifice anything? Because you shouldn’t have to sacrifice anything? Not even one dollar? Is it really more important to be right, than to be generous?

If I had the opportunity to let Bill borrow MY car so he can go about fulfilling the destiny of Camelot, I would. Instead I can only choose to be a part of disclosure itself, to support it beyond sharing my opinions for free, and if my measly 60 bucks has anything to do with winning this information war, then I can say to history that I was there, I made a difference. I made sacrifices; even if it was only a few dollars here and there.

peace

[StClair]

Originally Posted by Suriel

The fact that there is a goodbye thread is a message in itself. There is so much wasted energy here. This is the only forum that I have visited that has been so full of mentally unstable people. Avalon is a good nut trap.

Well, if Avalon is an example of a new community, I would definitely look elsewhere. I recommend watching the movie "the Beach" Good movie.

All it takes is one unstable person and the community is in Chaos.
Peace,
Suriel

Hi Suriel
& Friends

Sounds indeed like what I said in my May 2008 Camelot video, one chaot and all is toast, I experienced it often when vampiric energy feels attracted to the Light. We have seen it at work here from the first few moments. I stayed in observer mode after the witness threads were deleted, and i came back now to help out Kerry Cassidy.

Yes so while they raise funds now, we can discuss this business of how to manage sanity, as it then leads to the productive question of how you form true Radiant Zones and who you select... do they s-elect each other? By projecting at each other? Just kidding...

OK and that is what my 288 quiet peaceful friends and i discuss at my zone where we network good people and bring about concrete solutions... while also looking at the bigger picture, meanwhile this Avalon thing here at times looks like the "radio-active" zone. Saddens me a bit, and makes me laugh too, both.

Anyway as we have proven today once again the Krishnamurti "in"-crowd saved the day and showed the way, plus implemented applied solutions on an ordinary day, and got the fundraiser started, by having TWO people simply begin donating while the others "debated" the issues....

Hey guys when the house is on fire you act without thought, you do not discuss stuff. That is why this planet is where it is at, because no one or only few can take action - let alone "leadership" whatever that means.

Well yes... it is going to take a few way showers in the real world of 2009-2012

Thanks Suriel for your thoughts - much appreciated !!


Post Script to the others...


As to that discussion about Elitism, I have some disturbing hard core news:

The TRUE ELITE (Term used in the book WILDFIRE by Samantha Beaumont) is the group who prepared the new paradigm. At one time around 2014 or so we will perhaps embark in a society of enlightened ones, where no leaders are needed, because everyone is a leader of his her own self. The the true elite is among true equals. Makes sense?

Its not the old "elite", let alone the "ground crew" which designed and implements the new ways of the future now. It is the scouts of the desired timelines who will make it happen.

not to worry
all is swell...

For the book "Wildfire" see: http://stclairzone.ning.com/forum/to...antha-beaumont

((To everyone: Read the book by Samantha Beaumont, you might learn a few shamanic tricks that will come in handy very soon.))

[enacae]

I saw the donation link on PC & PA home pages now. I hope to be able to give soon. If you are able to give please do. I truly believe in what Bill and Kerry are doing here. Keep this site alive and free. Lets keep Bill and Kerry able to do their job by making a donations toward our cause. I say "our cause" because I believe that we all here are gaining through the work that they are doing. Kuddos to the moderators here, I think you all are doing a fantastic job keeping the forum up and organized. So, if you can give, please do. If you can not, then just keep Bill ,Kerry and the moderators in your thoughts.

[Donald]

I didn't actually took the time to read all the posts since my last one on this thread but one thing I can tell : I still don't see anyone laughing !

Resistance is futile. Your life as it has been, is over. From this time forward, you will service us and you will be assimilated.

Locutus of Borg

I hope that settles it.

[Dantheman62]

Originally Posted by Donald

I didn't actually took the time to read all the posts since my last one on this thread but one thing I can tell : I still don't see anyone laughing !

Resistance is futile. Your life as it has been, is over. From this time forward, you will service us and you will be assimilated.

Locutus of Borg

I hope that settles it.

Hey Donald, go over to Camelot-off-topic, Quotes and Jokes!, HaHa!

[Donald]

Originally Posted by Dantheman62

Hey Donald, go over to Camelot-off-topic, Quotes and Jokes!, HaHa!

You have to read my other posts on this thread to understand why I say this. It's actually relevant.

[Dantheman62]

oh sorry, I thought you were looking for a laugh, my bad, I'll look at your other posts.