How many of you are familiar with the Avalon Cult?

[goody8504]

Originally Posted by Professor Nordheim

...the modern New Age Movement has a clear definitive agenda which has been agreed upon by their constituents, by which the manifesto of the New Age movement calls for:

1. One World Leader
2. New World Order Gov't
3. World Food authority
4. World Health Authority
5. World Water Authority
6. Universal ID System
7. Universal Financial System
8. Abolishing Christianity
9. New Global "One" Religion
10. Destruction of Jesus Christ

Source: grailcode.net

i'm not gonna lie. i didn't read most of your post. but what you feel are ten major problems with the new age movement i don't know that all 10 are necessarily bad.

1. i don't know of anybody calling for a one world leader. in fact, it seems a council chosen by the people (i don't mean politicians, more like philosophers) would be a much better fit. we've tried individual leaders. they don't work out too well.

2. it really depends on what kind of one world government your talking about. we are many people living on one planet. once we get away form the idea of being american, italian, japanese, etc we will instead say 'i'm from earth.' it seems to me that a single world government elected by the people of the world would be appropriate when dealing with global problems. things like food shortages, global warming, animal extinction, etc are not isolated cases. we can longer treat them like isolated problems because they affect us all. i'm not saying we should abolish local government, but it seems to me that a single world government would be useful for many things that must be treated at planetary problems.

3, 4, and 5. there are many billions of people around the world who need food, water, and healthcare. surely you don't expect any single particular government to help all of these people. again, a group of spiritual, philosophically minded people from all around the globe would be my best recommendation to helping those in need who cannot help themselves.

6. i don't know of anybody who is pushing for world ID cards or ID chips besides the negative elite and those who have been brainwashed enough to believe the negative elite are our benevolent friends. and that group is falling apart in front of our eyes anyway.

7. yes, a universal financial system would be best (not paper money or zeros on a computer screen) but something tangible and has actual value. like i said before, the people who currently control the worlds finances are falling apart. once they have completely fallen, a world currency would be more appropriate. when anti-gravity technology is finally a reality, i don't want to have to exchange my american dollars for euros if i decide to go to europe for dinner.

8. as far as abolishing christianity...i take it your a christian considering you forgot about the jews, muslims, buddhists, etc, so i'll keep my mouth shut.

9. as far as i can tell, new age people don't believe in any religion. if i don't like watching football, i'm not going to get rid of all the current football teams just to create a brand new one. so no, they have no desire to create a new world religion. in fact, most of the new age people i know see religion as a positive, uplifting thing. they don't care what people believe because they realize we're all free to believe whatever we want to believe and there's nothing wrong with that.

10. destruction of jesus christ? hunting down all those who worship jesus and killing them? that's a pretty bold statement. i thought new age people were a peaceful, open-minded crowd. my mistake

[Karen]

The name of the project has nothing to do with anything except this:

Hi, Karen:

The idea for Project Camelot came when we were visiting Tintagel in Cornwall in April 2006 (the fabled ancient site of King Arthur’s Camelot), very soon after we’d met.

Warmest wishes, Bill

[kem]

I don't see your point. Do you mean that we shouldn't love our Earth, the nature because Satan want us to do it (in his great plan to set up a NWO)???
I would say I'm agreeing with a few notions of the New Age culture. But I won't follow people who tells me they've found the truth. New Agers or not. Because the truth is in ourselves.

Furthermore I won't accept anything like ID cheaping and that kind of stuff nor abiding by rules that I don't find fair. Even if it's in the name of a New Age era.

But I may be wrong, as I didn't read the whole post...

Have a nice day! Love

[Josefine]

What's in a name?
The Avalon Forum is a chosen name, not a chosen cult or religion.

No reason to jump to conclusions. I.e: What is Christianity or what are Christian beliefs and dogmas? How many different versions of the truth of the Christian religion can you list? Each and every one of them claim to hold the one true version of Truth, and that their group/sect will be victorious in the end and everyone else will see the light the way they see it.

All major religions, Christianity, Buddhism, Islam, Judaism, and so on, are fragmented in this way, and they generally tend to fight all other versions of their own religion with equal fierceness as they fight all the other major religions.

New Age is equally fragmented and not a cohesive movement.

Last year I started to research 'Wholism'. It took me to the Gaia religion which has been brought to world attention through the Green Movement and hailed at the green summit in Rio in 1992. Maurice Strong, the main organisor of the Rio summit, is attributed with this attempt of making the green agenda a religious agenda. He is also a main proponent of the NWO. This is yet another attempt to usurp personal power and wisdom and replace it with a totalitarian agenda with limited personal freedom.

Is totalitarianism our goal? If so, we may use any set of dogmas, - religious, political and/or scientific - , and make it the exclusive choice for mankind.

If, on the other hand, personal choice and preference is a value we like to promote, unity in diversity is the name of the game. We may fight for our truth without fighting each other.

Ideally, the Avalon Forum could be a case in point if we can muster this much unity in diversity



The quest for truth and wholeness goes on. When it leads to each person realizing the true identity of a human being, we may also freely state how we see God.

[Mike_Jetson]

Looks like a copy and paste job to me.

[dayzero]

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[QueenOfLeon]

I looked up the relevance of the name Avalon when I first came here, and before I got bored out of my mind I stumbled across "the avalon project at yale university - documents in Law, History and Diplomacy".....

Yale is where skull and bones started as we all know....

I just thought it was an interesting parallel.

Originally Posted by QueenOfLeon

I looked up the relevance of the name Avalon when I first came here, and before I got bored out of my mind I stumbled across "the avalon project at yale university - documents in Law, History and Diplomacy".....

Yale is where skull and bones started as we all know....

I just thought it was an interesting parallel.

I've used the documents through the Avalon Project via the Yale servers. It was pretty cool - most of the major documents of our history were digitized for all to see. I used it to read a lot of Indian treaties. Anyway, somebody threw a fit about something, sued the departments that sponsered it (law, history, and some others, and now it is shut down.

So much for the all powerful "Skull and Bones"!

[Professor Nordheim]

Originally Posted by QueenOfLeon

I looked up the relevance of the name Avalon when I first came here, and before I got bored out of my mind I stumbled across "the avalon project at yale university - documents in Law, History and Diplomacy".....

Yale is where skull and bones started as we all know....

I just thought it was an interesting parallel.

Very interesting indeed QueenOfLeon!

[Professor Nordheim]

Originally Posted by Mike_Jetson

Looks like a copy and paste job to me.

Well, yes, it is ....

[SIR GALAHAD]

Originally Posted by karen

the name of the project has nothing to do with anything except this:

Hi, karen:

The idea for project camelot came when we were visiting tintagel in cornwall in april 2006 (the fabled ancient site of king arthur’s camelot), very soon after we’d met.

Warmest wishes, bill

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[norman]

Originally Posted by goody8504

9. as far as i can tell, new age people don't believe in any religion. if i don't like watching football, i'm not going to get rid of all the current football teams just to create a brand new one. so no, they have no desire to create a new world religion. in fact, most of the new age people i know see religion as a positive, uplifting thing. they don't care what people believe because they realize we're all free to believe whatever we want to believe and there's nothing wrong with that.

goody, hi,


Your breakdown response above is quite reasonable in my opinion except for your section 9 response which really fails, badly, to have any grasp at all of the point.

Try having another think about it.

[goody8504]

Originally Posted by norman

goody, hi,


Your breakdown response above is quite reasonable in my opinion except for your section 9 response which really fails, badly, to have any grasp at all of the point.

Try having another think about it.

fair enough. all of what i know about the new age movement was based upon the beleifs of the people in know who claim to be a part of it. they feel it's more about spiruality then reilgion. there is a big difference between the two. but i'll admit, my assumption could be waaay off. like i said, i've never actually done a google search about it

[Boober]

Oldschool thread, interesting read.

[ellie]

Well I got what you were saying Prof, I know it may be hard but I did get ya.

[Stardustaquarion]

Avalon (probably from the Welsh word afal, meaning apple; see Etymology below) is a legendary island featured in the Arthurian legend, famous for its beautiful apples. It first appears in Geoffrey of Monmouth's 1136 pseudohistorical account Historia Regum Britanniae ("The History of the Kings of Britain") as the place where King Arthur's sword Caliburn (Excalibur) was forged and later where Arthur is taken to recover from his wounds after the Battle of Camlann. As an "Isle of the Blessed" Avalon has parallels elsewhere in Indo-European mythology, in particular the Irish Tír na nÓg and the Greek Hesperides, also noted for its apples. Avalon was associated from an early date with immortal beings such as Morgan le Fay.

So there is a bunch of people that like the same name... the name is not copyrightable

Love to all