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Old 11-24-2008, 03:37 PM   #1
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Hello all,

I love the story I am reading regarding the wingmakers. I am new to the site as of last week and have my filters on right now; if nothing else I am enjoying the read.

I am puzzled, however, as this story appears as a source for research in some of these threads. As science is my trade I have the obvious traps and limitations when exploring outside possibilities/probabilities.

My question, "Is this myth a vehichle for truth?"

Your thoughts,

Peace
Hi Wilson,

All myths are vehicles for truth. Simply, they are metaphors for the truth of existence. There are elements of factual science woven into the WingMakers material (WMM), but it is essentially a modern myth -- a mix of story and truth woven together so it can survive in the open world. It is for each to use their own powers of discernment to determine what is fact and fiction and how it can help in one's life.

James has said it is based on fact that he gleamed from what he refers to as sensory bi-location, which is a higher form of remote viewing in which he not merely sees but can use his reason and intelligence to assess situations and data while in the viewing state.

Enjoy the journey.

Chris
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Old 11-24-2008, 03:49 PM   #2
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Thank you Chris, very insightful.
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Old 11-24-2008, 04:03 PM   #3
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Hi Wilson,

All myths are vehicles for truth. Simply, they are metaphors for the truth of existence. There are elements of factual science woven into the WingMakers material (WMM), but it is essentially a modern myth -- a mix of story and truth woven together so it can survive in the open world. It is for each to use their own powers of discernment to determine what is fact and fiction and how it can help in one's life.

James has said it is based on fact that he gleamed from what he refers to as sensory bi-location, which is a higher form of remote viewing in which he not merely sees but can use his reason and intelligence to assess situations and data while in the viewing state.

Enjoy the journey.

Chris
It may be a myth, but after listening to James's .mp3's I'll tell you he has the countanance of a bona fide whistleblower. He has a humility and intelligence unlike most Humans. He sounds like James Earl Jones. So much in fact that I wondered, if in fact, it was him! A genuine pleasure to be in his energy field. That I can tell you. A grand story it would be if it were true. And Why couldn't it be true? It will be great if it turns out to be. What, with Dr. Neruda and the group controlling the dissemination of the tech from the sites... I'm Staying tuned. If nothing else it's great entertainment! A superior level site. An empowering message, perhaps connected to the Disclosure movement?

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Old 11-24-2008, 04:56 PM   #4
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It may be a myth, but after listening to James's .mp3's I'll tell you he has the countanance of a bona fide whistleblower. He has a humility and intelligence unlike most Humans. He sounds like James Earl Jones. So much in fact that I wondered, if in fact, it was him! A genuine pleasure to be in his energy field. That I can tell you. A grand story it would be if it were true. And Why couldn't it be true? It will be great if it turns out to be. What, with Dr. Narada and the group controlling the dissemination of the tech from the sites... I'm Staying tuned. If nothing else it's great entertainment! A superior level site. An empowering message, perhaps connected to the Disclosure movement?
Hi Eugene,

Yes. James does indeed present a great may insightful truths within the material; and his later work fills in the gaps showing how to live one's life on a personal level from the individual frequencies constituting the love frequency of the heart, which also reflect in how one conducts oneself and one's behavior.

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Old 11-24-2008, 05:34 PM   #5
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And my message, my truth, is that any one of us can develop ourselves to do whatever James and Dr. Neruda are capable of doing, as per our individual preferences. I have seen "average" people access their personal spiritual strengths. I am sure the angels strike up the band when we take meaningful steps in that direction.

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Old 11-24-2008, 08:41 PM   #6
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Let's see the New World Order part of the wingmakers material...


Sarah: "I also read the memo that Dr. Sauthers [a colleague of Dr. Neruda] wrote about a global culture being an outcome of this technology from the WingMakers' sites. But how could these objects be used to build a global culture? It seems a little naive to me."

Dr. Neruda: "All I can tell you is that it's related to the Internet and a new communication technology that the WingMakers referred to as OLIN or the One Language Intelligent Network. If you read the glossary section that I left behind, you'll see it referenced there. The WingMakers seem to feel confident that the OLIN technology will help create the global culture through the Internet. This incidentally is consistent with prophecies that the Labyrinth Group was privy to dating as far back as 1,500 years ago. Of course the enabling technology wasn't called OLIN, but the notion of a global culture and unified governance has been predicted for many centuries."

Sarah: "[COLOR="Red"]This is what George Bush used to call the New World order isn't it? [/COLOR]

Dr. Neruda: "Yes, but there have been four other presidents who've acknowledged this concept."

Sarah: "What would make the world's people decide to unify under one governing body, or for that matter, create a global culture--whatever that means? I just can't envision it happening--not in my lifetime."

Dr. Neruda: "According to the WingMakers it will happen through the digital economy and then through the Internet's OLIN technology platform. And through this global network, entertainment and educational content will be globalized. This is the basis of a global culture with unified commerce, content, and communities. Once these pieces of the infrastructure are in place, then the need to govern this infrastructure will loom as the preeminent issue of the day. And the United Nations is the logical ruling body for such an endeavor. As long as the World's people allow the digitization of the economy and embrace the OLIN technology platform, a global government and culture is virtually assured to emerge."

Sarah: "And as you said last night, this is supposed to occur in 2018?"

Dr. Neruda: "According to prophecy, that's when the United Nations will hold initial elections for a unified world government. And it won't be an all powerful, centralized authority, but rather a global public policy decision and enforcement organization for issues that effect the world at large. Issues like pollution, global warming, border disputes, space travel, terrorism, trade, commerce, OLIN technology upgrades, and general technology transfer programs."

Sarah: "So what will happen to National sovereignty in this new role of the United Nations?"

Dr. Neruda: "I'm willing to answer your question in the form of a speculative response, but I'm also aware that you had asked me at the outset of this interview to remind you if you got off course. What would you like --"

Sarah: No, you're absolutely right. Sorry. Let's go back to the artifacts--what was the condition of the site when you first entered--or better still, why don't you just describe your first encounter going inside the site."

Cheers and judge by yourselve.

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Old 11-24-2008, 09:56 PM   #7
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Perhaps the Moderator could merge the WingMakers threads.
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Old 12-12-2008, 11:37 AM   #8
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Let's see the New World Order part of the wingmakers material...


Sarah: "I also read the memo that Dr. Sauthers [a colleague of Dr. Neruda] wrote about a global culture being an outcome of this technology from the WingMakers' sites. But how could these objects be used to build a global culture? It seems a little naive to me."

Dr. Neruda: "All I can tell you is that it's related to the Internet and a new communication technology that the WingMakers referred to as OLIN or the One Language Intelligent Network. If you read the glossary section that I left behind, you'll see it referenced there. The WingMakers seem to feel confident that the OLIN technology will help create the global culture through the Internet. This incidentally is consistent with prophecies that the Labyrinth Group was privy to dating as far back as 1,500 years ago. Of course the enabling technology wasn't called OLIN, but the notion of a global culture and unified governance has been predicted for many centuries."

Sarah: This is what George Bush used to call the New World order isn't it?

Dr. Neruda: "Yes, but there have been four other presidents who've acknowledged this concept."

Sarah: "What would make the world's people decide to unify under one governing body, or for that matter, create a global culture--whatever that means? I just can't envision it happening--not in my lifetime."

Dr. Neruda: "According to the WingMakers it will happen through the digital economy and then through the Internet's OLIN technology platform. And through this global network, entertainment and educational content will be globalized. This is the basis of a global culture with unified commerce, content, and communities. Once these pieces of the infrastructure are in place, then the need to govern this infrastructure will loom as the preeminent issue of the day. And the United Nations is the logical ruling body for such an endeavor. As long as the World's people allow the digitization of the economy and embrace the OLIN technology platform, a global government and culture is virtually assured to emerge."

Sarah: "And as you said last night, this is supposed to occur in 2018?"

Dr. Neruda: "According to prophecy, that's when the United Nations will hold initial elections for a unified world government. And it won't be an all powerful, centralized authority, but rather a global public policy decision and enforcement organization for issues that effect the world at large. Issues like pollution, global warming, border disputes, space travel, terrorism, trade, commerce, OLIN technology upgrades, and general technology transfer programs."

Sarah: "So what will happen to National sovereignty in this new role of the United Nations?"

Dr. Neruda: "I'm willing to answer your question in the form of a speculative response, but I'm also aware that you had asked me at the outset of this interview to remind you if you got off course. What would you like --"

Sarah: No, you're absolutely right. Sorry. Let's go back to the artifacts--what was the condition of the site when you first entered--or better still, why don't you just describe your first encounter going inside the site."

Cheers and judge by yourselve.
This is certainly interesting. I had surmised as much, as stated in other posts. The PTP counts on us being too lazy to do the required work to determine what the value of a material holds, and reject the rest. 'All or nothing' is the lazy habitual response.

The Zeitgeist material has been produced for the same purpose, I can sense. And the Blossom Goodchild message as well, which was given ridiculously much space on Avalon. The lightship grew in expected size by the week, and little attention was made of the fact that there were ongoing major sightings over major cities in the world.

Channeling is something they want to do away with, it may come up with inconvenient truths for those who prefer an 'Information Clearinghouse'.
By the same token, channeling may also be the lazy one's snoozing pillow, so it is fair enough to take stock of how we use it.

There is a chance that these forces (NWO Religion Creators) are trying to take advantage of a Forum like Avalon. I will be very disappointed if this is in cooperation with Bill and Kerry. It certainly does not have to be. But whoever is able to steer the traffic, has great powers.

In the meantime I will say that the interview with James, the Zeitgeist videos and Blossom G. nevertheless have brought about much good: We need to flex our muscles of discernment, and what better way to do that than to face some real challenges and do a good job of meeting them.

What 'they' are counting on is the customary genuflections, a habit that the traditional religions have bred into our mindset.
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