Obama Forgery Exposed

Waterman · 11-26-2008, 06:39 AM

Whew,

St. Clair, we are in trouble. I had no clue that there was this much denial.

It will decided by the Supreme court, and it will be what it will be. And what it will be is many freedoms lost.

We are moving through Obama's handlers into an unprecedented time of political corruption. About the time we thought the Clinton's were corrupt, we get the Bush corruption. Then as soon as we think it can't get any worse than the Bush clan we get Obama and the old NWO guard gets placed back in power!

America, under the next puppet controlled president is headed for total dictatorship. And when some of the cool aid drinkers of America start bleeding I would not be surprised that there will still be denial. We have no time to waste, and so unfortunately no time help them from getting hungry bellies, the denial is desired and there taken upon themselves and will manifest. This is a perfect example of the real manifestation that occurs by participating in a belief system.

It isn't the talking and debating of such realities that causes the manifestation it is owning, and participating that causes the manifestation. And right here on this thread there is a perfect example. So, as Kerry has said entertaining the thought does not mean I participated in manifesting it.

Let us not ignore the common sense that produces benefit through dialog as opposed to the superstition that just talking about undesirable events will manifest things. So, let us focus on our ground crew work, and continue to put together our regional and sub cultural economies. Let's continue to realize we will be needing each other to make it through. And if people are in denial to do any of these things say a prayer for them and move on to the next person.

Squeptikal · 11-26-2008, 07:02 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Waterman

Whew,

We are moving through Obama's handlers into an unprecedented time of political corruption. About the time we thought the Clinton's were corrupt, we get the Bush corruption. Then as soon as we think it can't get any worse than the Bush clan we get Obama and the old NWO guard gets placed back in power!

Let's continue to realize we will be needing each other to make it through. And if people are in denial to do any of these things say a prayer for them and move on to the next person.

Why is it that everyone assumes that we're living in times of enhanced corruption? Just look at the Kennedy thing, when I was a kid. Kennedy wants to wrest control from the CIA, while banging one of their biggest blackies' wife. He gets whacked because of it, and then she gets whacked by the younger brother Bobby. Then to restore the original balance, Bobby gets whacked. Talk about corruption! JFK was a major flaunter of power getting off on LSD, and numerous other goodies.

We only believe that this is a new standard of corruption because of our limited experiences.

I heartily agree with the end of your post...

Let's get on the with Ground Crew work and quit flirting with whitey disenfranchisement. Shift happened! Impotent remorse is not a worthy endeavor.

Bobcat · 11-26-2008, 07:12 AM

I found it quite amusing that when he was elected the bbc had film crews in kenya. They had alot of his family members on film cheering for him. What I found amusing was, they where in a crappy tin shed and looked very poor indeed. If he can leave his own family poor and in poverty, why is he goingto help the families of the USA one little bit?

It's clear he couldnt give a damn.

The devils pupput.

Regards

Bobcat

p.s. He still hasnt produced his origional birth document. If he had nothing to worry about he would have just shown it in public and told everyone to calm down !!!

eaglespirit · 11-26-2008, 07:38 AM

It is ALL imploding...no matter who is in office!

The downward spiral is already in full momentum.

Politics, the crock of lies as we know it, IS leaving the planet!

It is now up to You and Me and Our Own Higher Help!

What do You want Your Life to be?

Make it so and be it!

Josefine · 11-26-2008, 09:51 AM

HELLO!!!

Let us tread gingerly on eggs and refrain from throwing stones when sitting in a house of glass.

There were two candidates in the race, both backed by the current overt and hidden establishment. This has been the case before, how could it be different this time?

St. Clair obviously favoured the McCain/Palin ticket. Even to the extent of squeezing an interpretation of Palin's astrological chart and pronouncing her ticket to be on the winning side. Then offering an apologetica that did not even address the salient point, namely that of him stretching his credentials as a professional astrologer a wee bit too far. And to what purpose? A McCain/Palin win would have been an equally challenging situation for those who want a real change of direction, given the McCain/Palin connection to Zionists, Jesuits, the open backing by a Rothschild, Christian Dominionism and Fundamentalism etc etc

How unbiased was this, St Clair?

If this were a local squabble, we might have just wished good luck. Since much more is at stake, let us hope that this administration develops in a more positive direction than our worst fear tries to dictate.

The world is ready for a change, but the change will have to start inside each and every one of us.

dagon · 11-26-2008, 03:05 PM

a friend gave me this responce.

this stuff is interesting but try not to get to wound up over it. Much of it is bad science with a clear political agenda. The Republicans and the far right do not like the current political situation at all and there crying has only just begun. Keep the faith,

Im not sure on this subject. lets say its true. then what do you all expect would happen? hillery is president? hum? gorge stays in office a while linger?

interesting.

dagon · 11-26-2008, 03:25 PM

personally. I think we should line up most all of the politicians on the steps of the capital. and

then hold new elections. anything less will just produce more of the same.

Tara · 11-26-2008, 04:19 PM

What would a "white hat" do if he were president? Give me an example of any political figure globally who MAY NOT be corrupt? How about Evo Morales of Bolivia. He is working on socialism, but he's a really good guy as far as I know. What is it that you are all so afraid of with Barack Obama that hasn't been done before. From kool-aid drinker to the ever SO smart all knowing ones on this thread. I still find it interesting that this info is same info blasted by right wing media. Again, these are the same people who gave us Bush/Cheney. I keep hearing how we're all doomed, and how stupid we are that we don't see it coming. What the h*ll are you talking about? What's going to happen? I've read all the conspiracies, what is the worse thing that will happen, debtor prisons, death? The amero, staged terrorists attacks, homeless, poor, hungry, broke. Most of this stuff is already happening. Why are there two threads by same poster on this issue with a video by a guy who won't even say who he is? Everytime I end a post like this I just want to erase it. Feels like such a waste of time.

StClair · 11-26-2008, 04:26 PM

Tara
Yes I agree.

Indeed, yes there is Evo Morales to whom I dedicated a page in my book, Aquarius One and capricorn one, the tribal leader, installed elected simultaneously to the little bottle neck whale appearing in London.... and there is also Vladimir Putin and his student Medvedev, and a few more, such as Mr. Klaus, Czech President, and a few more, hidden in waiting for later. Believe it or not, and Palin is one of "us" too hidden in her "disguise." It would be best she just looks after her immediate surroundings, as we all do in our radiant zones, see Morales, Klaus, Putin, et al.

joe2288 · 11-26-2008, 07:18 PM

I honestly am a obama supporter and regardless of what anyone says i think

he is going to make a good president but i did see something recently on a

underground video were a person staed the same thing as this man so i agree

that this should be looked into further

Lotus · 11-26-2008, 07:34 PM

In late July, a researcher looking to dig up dirt on Obama instead found a birth announcement that had been published in the Honolulu Advertiser on Sunday, Aug. 13, 1961.

The announcement was posted by a pro-Hillary Clinton blogger who grudgingly concluded that Obama "likely" was born Aug. 4, 1961 in Honolulu.

John aka#404 · 11-26-2008, 08:23 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by bodhisattva

No, I am referring to the people who post comments like, "who cares", or "move on"....I am totally open to open minded, informed and intelligent dialog. Heretic, is a great example of that. My comments were directed at people who don't seem to care about this issue, and I question why they would bother with their comments in the first place. When I see posts I don't care about, I don't take the time to make a "who cares" comment, I do move on.

[mod hat off here]

Bodhisattva,

I just wanted to say thank you for standing up for what you question in life. I too have been questioning this whole "BO" thing since the beginning of this year. I have made varying posts elsewhere on this forum about this issue, but will not deter here.

I understand that many folks out there will hold on to the first glimpse of hope without questioning intentions, agenda, etc. And guess what... it looks like "tptwb" (the powers that wanna be - lower case intentional) have created the perfect "problem-reaction-solution" here (ie. Bush/Neocons/et al -> get the masses in a tizzy of despair -> accept the first glimpse of hope).
[the opposite can be true too... BO and team are really white knights of truth (ie. keep your friends close, but keep your enemies closer) -- if so, would they play the same games as those they oppose? and if they are... does that feel right ? Not for me. We all are much better than that.]

Unfortunately, in today's world this whole matter being questioned has of course included the race card and really... we all are much better than that. Why can we not question all of these blatant cover-ups ? The FACT that reactions occur so quickly should be the red flag. Something is up here.

I also want to say, ignore those that want to badger on about moving on or "who cares". It is not about disrespect - it is like Bodhisattva has said... let's be "... totally open to open minded, informed and intelligent dialog." This is how we should all be engaged here (and the forum as a whole). Some folks, however, feel it is their duty to throw stones here and there. Let them... and ignore them.

Thank you Heretic and Michael for your input on this issue as well.

peace, love and HUGS all around.

-John
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bodhisattva · 11-26-2008, 10:07 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by John aka#404

[mod hat off here]

Bodhisattva,

I just wanted to say thank you for standing up for what you question in life. I too have been questioning this whole "BO" thing since the beginning of this year. I have made varying posts elsewhere on this forum about this issue, but will not deter here.

I understand that many folks out there will hold on to the first glimpse of hope without questioning intentions, agenda, etc. And guess what... it looks like "tptwb" (the powers that wanna be - lower case intentional) have created the perfect "problem-reaction-solution" here (ie. Bush/Neocons/et al -> get the masses in a tizzy of despair -> accept the first glimpse of hope).
[the opposite can be true too... BO and team are really white knights of truth (ie. keep your friends close, but keep your enemies closer) -- if so, would they play the same games as those they oppose? and if they are... does that feel right ? Not for me. We all are much better than that.]

Unfortunately, in today's world this whole matter being questioned has of course included the race card and really... we all are much better than that. Why can we not question all of these blatant cover-ups ? The FACT that reactions occur so quickly should be the red flag. Something is up here.

I also want to say, ignore those that want to badger on about moving on or "who cares". It is not about disrespect - it is like Bodhisattva has said... let's be "... totally open to open minded, informed and intelligent dialog." This is how we should all be engaged here (and the forum as a whole). Some folks, however, feel it is their duty to throw stones here and there. Let them... and ignore them.

Thank you Heretic and Michael for your input on this issue as well.

peace, love and HUGS all around.

-John
.

Thank you beautiful John.

You, and a few others here, I truly resonate with.

I am not here to bash Obama. I am merely seeking the truth where ever that leads me. I am sick of the lies, corruption and deceit that is so common these days. I want us all as God's children to live a happy, prosperous and healthy life as God intended for us.

I as a spiritual warrior will fight for that birth right, and I will do my part in educating myself with the evidence that points me in the direction of the truth.

And for those folks who don't give a rats ass about it, it is their right to exercise their free will in that way; it is just not my style to not care about something this important.

peace and a big hug.

davefla73 · 11-26-2008, 10:44 PM

i beleave it i think its a cheap fake, he should produce the real one!

Lotus · 11-26-2008, 11:31 PM

Ask yourself a simple question, do you think Obama's worried that some people on a forum think his birth certificate is fake?

This issue was trumpeted on right wing blogosphere and he still got elected.

Berg's lawsuit was thrown out.

What's all this complaining supposed to achieve?

Look how long we've been inundated with reams of info about the 9/11 conspiracy, and what's happened officially? Nothing.

So dream on.

bodhisattva · 11-27-2008, 12:03 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Lotus

Ask yourself a simple question, do you think Obama's worried that some people on a forum think his birth certificate is fake?

This issue was trumpeted on right wing blogosphere and he still got elected.

Berg's lawsuit was thrown out.

What's all this complaining supposed to achieve?

Look how long we've been inundated with reams of info about the 9/11 conspiracy, and what's happened officially? Nothing.

So dream on.

Nope, I don't think Obama gives a rats ass about our opinions on this forum....but I suspect he is a tad bit concerned about what the Supreme Court might rule.

Lotus · 11-27-2008, 01:09 AM

Don't have to be psychic to predict they will throw it out!

broken arrow · 11-27-2008, 01:47 AM

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bodhisattva · 11-27-2008, 02:15 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by broken arrow

the cat and mouse live in the house.

how many mice can one cat scurry?

why do they run in such a hurry?

this is a hunt not a stunt.

who bears the brunt?

confuscate the constitution.

therein lies the final solution.

if ye be bold thou shall be told.

the cat is fat and it is old.

all the bubbles, toils and troubles.

the mice do thirst and the cat doth burst.

full of this and that 1,2,3, too much fat.

had enough?

what's the skinny?

need more cowbell?

ding dong clang.

join the gang.

This little mouse says, that sounds like some good fat cat advice to me.

Myra · 11-27-2008, 02:33 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by bodhisattva

Nope, I don't think Obama gives a rats ass about our opinions on this forum....but I suspect he is a tad bit concerned about what the Supreme Court might rule.

Oh I get it. The Extreme Reich-Wing is so desperate for an Obama sabotage because none of their other bogus attempts worked, so they are depending on their illegitimate wishes to be granted by a Bush-stacked Supreme Court.

Whining sore losers. A broken Record ad nauseum.

Nice try.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Lotus

Don't have to be psychic to predict they will throw it out!

And so is my prediction.

broken arrow · 11-27-2008, 02:42 AM

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Myra · 11-27-2008, 02:54 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by broken arrow

Myra,

i do LOVE your avatar. been meaning to say so. been waiting for the opportunity.

peace.

Thanks broken arrow. I love it too!

raulduke · 11-27-2008, 03:15 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Myra

Oh I get it. The Extreme Reich-Wing is so desperate for an Obama sabotage because none of their other bogus attempts worked, so they are depending on their illegitimate wishes to be granted by a Bush-stacked Supreme Court.

Whining sore losers....

I agree that this will be thrown out in a hurry, but maybe we should ask why a "Bush stacked" supreme court would do this?

The conseravative judges that Reagan/Bushes appointed are supposed to hold judicial restraint in the highest regard, so why would they overlook a legitimate discrepency in BO's constitutional requirements for his elected office? Not to mention the whole percieved left/right liberal/conservative game. Why not jump on this chance to vanquish a rival? Maybe because what's good for the dems is also good for the reps. The differnces are only skin deep (i.e, campaign promises that won't materialize).

Is the constitution irrelevant? I'm seriously asking, because i've heard some people say that they don't care if he meets the specific constitutional requirements. If we open that door, then look out for Arnold, he's knocking.

p.s. I didn't vote for either corporate clown so I'm not sore or a loser, but I may be whiny depending on your pov

. Oh yeah, and questioning Obama, I don't think qualifies us necessarily as the "The Extreme Reich-Wing" imho.

Heretic · 11-27-2008, 03:32 AM

I thought this was an interesting development

Quote:

The complaint urges the California secretary of state to refuse to allow the state's 55 Electoral College votes to be cast until Obama's citizenship and related eligibility to hold office is resolved.

Orders from new president to spark lawsuit every time
Lawyer lining up plaintiff groups until citizenship dispute addressed

Posted: November 25, 2008
9:18 pm Eastern

By Bob Unruh
© 2008 WorldNetDaily

Old Bich · 11-27-2008, 04:37 AM

http://web.mac.com/donnicoloff

Under "Articles" on this website is a fairly comprehensive background on BO and extended family. It compares BO's "official or public version" of himself with documented facts, that bear almost no resemblance to his public persona. It's quite lengthy, but well worth the read. The article includes backgrounds/genealogical histories on his family members as well.

Of note, there is also a similar research article on McCain.

IMHO, BO was chosen by TPTB long ago. He is NOT who he has been presented to be. Neither is McCain, but he's not the subject of the OP.

As an aside, those of you in the US, if you haven't listened to Michael Badnarik's Constitution Class, I highly recommend it. Sounds boring I know, but truly it's not. It's available on google videos in 7 one-hour parts. I have found that recommending this series of videos to people who need to wake up and learn the truth for themselves has had the best response from friends and family. Awakening is a difficult and often lengthy process for most. It simply cannot be accomplished in a single video or concept. People need something that opens their eyes immediately, makes them say WTF, and gets them interested enough to seek further truth on their own.

You don't get labeled a conspiracy nutso near as often either.

11-26-2008, 06:39 AM	#1
Waterman Avalon Senior Member Join Date: Sep 2008 Posts: 345	Re: Obama Forgery Exposed Whew, St. Clair, we are in trouble. I had no clue that there was this much denial. It will decided by the Supreme court, and it will be what it will be. And what it will be is many freedoms lost. We are moving through Obama's handlers into an unprecedented time of political corruption. About the time we thought the Clinton's were corrupt, we get the Bush corruption. Then as soon as we think it can't get any worse than the Bush clan we get Obama and the old NWO guard gets placed back in power! America, under the next puppet controlled president is headed for total dictatorship. And when some of the cool aid drinkers of America start bleeding I would not be surprised that there will still be denial. We have no time to waste, and so unfortunately no time help them from getting hungry bellies, the denial is desired and there taken upon themselves and will manifest. This is a perfect example of the real manifestation that occurs by participating in a belief system. It isn't the talking and debating of such realities that causes the manifestation it is owning, and participating that causes the manifestation. And right here on this thread there is a perfect example. So, as Kerry has said entertaining the thought does not mean I participated in manifesting it. Let us not ignore the common sense that produces benefit through dialog as opposed to the superstition that just talking about undesirable events will manifest things. So, let us focus on our ground crew work, and continue to put together our regional and sub cultural economies. Let's continue to realize we will be needing each other to make it through. And if people are in denial to do any of these things say a prayer for them and move on to the next person. Last edited by Waterman; 11-26-2008 at 07:45 AM.

11-26-2008, 07:12 AM	#3
Bobcat Avalon Senior Member Join Date: Sep 2008 Posts: 98	Re: Obama Forgery Exposed I found it quite amusing that when he was elected the bbc had film crews in kenya. They had alot of his family members on film cheering for him. What I found amusing was, they where in a crappy tin shed and looked very poor indeed. If he can leave his own family poor and in poverty, why is he goingto help the families of the USA one little bit? It's clear he couldnt give a damn. The devils pupput. Regards Bobcat p.s. He still hasnt produced his origional birth document. If he had nothing to worry about he would have just shown it in public and told everyone to calm down !!!

11-26-2008, 09:51 AM	#5
Josefine Avalon Senior Member Join Date: Oct 2008 Posts: 229	Re: Obama Forgery Exposed HELLO!!! Let us tread gingerly on eggs and refrain from throwing stones when sitting in a house of glass. There were two candidates in the race, both backed by the current overt and hidden establishment. This has been the case before, how could it be different this time? St. Clair obviously favoured the McCain/Palin ticket. Even to the extent of squeezing an interpretation of Palin's astrological chart and pronouncing her ticket to be on the winning side. Then offering an apologetica that did not even address the salient point, namely that of him stretching his credentials as a professional astrologer a wee bit too far. And to what purpose? A McCain/Palin win would have been an equally challenging situation for those who want a real change of direction, given the McCain/Palin connection to Zionists, Jesuits, the open backing by a Rothschild, Christian Dominionism and Fundamentalism etc etc How unbiased was this, St Clair? If this were a local squabble, we might have just wished good luck. Since much more is at stake, let us hope that this administration develops in a more positive direction than our worst fear tries to dictate. The world is ready for a change, but the change will have to start inside each and every one of us.

11-26-2008, 03:05 PM	#6
dagon Avalon Senior Member Join Date: Nov 2008 Location: Glen Ellen Ca Posts: 611	Re: Obama Forgery Exposed a friend gave me this responce. this stuff is interesting but try not to get to wound up over it. Much of it is bad science with a clear political agenda. The Republicans and the far right do not like the current political situation at all and there crying has only just begun. Keep the faith, Im not sure on this subject. lets say its true. then what do you all expect would happen? hillery is president? hum? gorge stays in office a while linger? interesting.

11-26-2008, 03:25 PM	#7
dagon Avalon Senior Member Join Date: Nov 2008 Location: Glen Ellen Ca Posts: 611	Re: Obama Forgery Exposed personally. I think we should line up most all of the politicians on the steps of the capital. and then hold new elections. anything less will just produce more of the same. Last edited by dagon; 11-26-2008 at 03:35 PM.

11-26-2008, 07:38 AM	#4
eaglespirit Avalon Senior Member Join Date: Sep 2008 Location: CT, MA, RI Posts: 127	Re: Obama Forgery Exposed It is ALL imploding...no matter who is in office! The downward spiral is already in full momentum. Politics, the crock of lies as we know it, IS leaving the planet! It is now up to You and Me and Our Own Higher Help! What do You want Your Life to be? Make it so and be it!

11-26-2008, 04:19 PM	#8
Tara Avalon Senior Member Join Date: Oct 2008 Posts: 85	Re: Obama Forgery Exposed What would a "white hat" do if he were president? Give me an example of any political figure globally who MAY NOT be corrupt? How about Evo Morales of Bolivia. He is working on socialism, but he's a really good guy as far as I know. What is it that you are all so afraid of with Barack Obama that hasn't been done before. From kool-aid drinker to the ever SO smart all knowing ones on this thread. I still find it interesting that this info is same info blasted by right wing media. Again, these are the same people who gave us Bush/Cheney. I keep hearing how we're all doomed, and how stupid we are that we don't see it coming. What the h*ll are you talking about? What's going to happen? I've read all the conspiracies, what is the worse thing that will happen, debtor prisons, death? The amero, staged terrorists attacks, homeless, poor, hungry, broke. Most of this stuff is already happening. Why are there two threads by same poster on this issue with a video by a guy who won't even say who he is? Everytime I end a post like this I just want to erase it. Feels like such a waste of time.

11-26-2008, 04:26 PM	#9
StClair Project Camelot Witness Join Date: Sep 2008 Location: Europe Posts: 358	Re: Obama Forgery Exposed Tara Yes I agree. Indeed, yes there is Evo Morales to whom I dedicated a page in my book, Aquarius One and capricorn one, the tribal leader, installed elected simultaneously to the little bottle neck whale appearing in London.... and there is also Vladimir Putin and his student Medvedev, and a few more, such as Mr. Klaus, Czech President, and a few more, hidden in waiting for later. Believe it or not, and Palin is one of "us" too hidden in her "disguise." It would be best she just looks after her immediate surroundings, as we all do in our radiant zones, see Morales, Klaus, Putin, et al. __________________ http://LIGHT-SEEDS.com Last edited by StClair; 11-26-2008 at 04:32 PM.

11-26-2008, 07:18 PM	#10
joe2288 Avalon Senior Member Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: Illinois USA Posts: 652	Re: Obama Forgery Exposed I honestly am a obama supporter and regardless of what anyone says i think he is going to make a good president but i did see something recently on a underground video were a person staed the same thing as this man so i agree that this should be looked into further

11-26-2008, 07:34 PM	#11
Lotus Avalon Senior Member Join Date: Sep 2008 Location: Hawaii Posts: 90	Re: Obama Forgery Exposed In late July, a researcher looking to dig up dirt on Obama instead found a birth announcement that had been published in the Honolulu Advertiser on Sunday, Aug. 13, 1961. The announcement was posted by a pro-Hillary Clinton blogger who grudgingly concluded that Obama "likely" was born Aug. 4, 1961 in Honolulu.

11-26-2008, 10:44 PM	#14
davefla73 Avalon Senior Member Join Date: Sep 2008 Location: Melbourne Florida Posts: 109	Re: Obama Forgery Exposed i beleave it i think its a cheap fake, he should produce the real one!

11-26-2008, 11:31 PM	#15
Lotus Avalon Senior Member Join Date: Sep 2008 Location: Hawaii Posts: 90	Re: Obama Forgery Exposed Ask yourself a simple question, do you think Obama's worried that some people on a forum think his birth certificate is fake? This issue was trumpeted on right wing blogosphere and he still got elected. Berg's lawsuit was thrown out. What's all this complaining supposed to achieve? Look how long we've been inundated with reams of info about the 9/11 conspiracy, and what's happened officially? Nothing. So dream on.

11-27-2008, 01:09 AM	#17
Lotus Avalon Senior Member Join Date: Sep 2008 Location: Hawaii Posts: 90	Re: Obama Forgery Exposed Don't have to be psychic to predict they will throw it out!

11-27-2008, 01:47 AM	#18
broken arrow Avalon Senior Member Join Date: Oct 2008 Posts: 101	Re: Obama Forgery Exposed . Last edited by broken arrow; 12-05-2008 at 05:17 AM.

11-27-2008, 02:42 AM	#21
broken arrow Avalon Senior Member Join Date: Oct 2008 Posts: 101	Re: Obama Forgery Exposed . Last edited by broken arrow; 12-05-2008 at 05:16 AM.

11-27-2008, 04:37 AM	#25
Old Bich Avalon Senior Member Join Date: Nov 2008 Location: Conroe, TX USA Posts: 1	Re: Obama Forgery Exposed http://web.mac.com/donnicoloff Under "Articles" on this website is a fairly comprehensive background on BO and extended family. It compares BO's "official or public version" of himself with documented facts, that bear almost no resemblance to his public persona. It's quite lengthy, but well worth the read. The article includes backgrounds/genealogical histories on his family members as well. Of note, there is also a similar research article on McCain. IMHO, BO was chosen by TPTB long ago. He is NOT who he has been presented to be. Neither is McCain, but he's not the subject of the OP. As an aside, those of you in the US, if you haven't listened to Michael Badnarik's Constitution Class, I highly recommend it. Sounds boring I know, but truly it's not. It's available on google videos in 7 one-hour parts. I have found that recommending this series of videos to people who need to wake up and learn the truth for themselves has had the best response from friends and family. Awakening is a difficult and often lengthy process for most. It simply cannot be accomplished in a single video or concept. People need something that opens their eyes immediately, makes them say WTF, and gets them interested enough to seek further truth on their own. You don't get labeled a conspiracy nutso near as often either.