The Horizon Project earthquake chart - where did they get their data?

[quest]

i did have doubts about their story, could be disinfo.

THP talks about earth aligning or entering this 'galactic plain' soon.
somewhere else i heard we are not even close to alignment, does anyone have reliable info on this subject?

[ABHA]

Originally Posted by quest

i did have doubts about their story, could be disinfo.

THP talks about earth aligning or entering this 'galactic plain' soon.
somewhere else i heard we are not even close to alignment, does anyone have reliable info on this subject?

Hi you asked for it, so here it is, there is a lot of reading but you could class this as pretty important.
We will always come back to the question , 'who do we trust?' NASA being a source of some of these reports is always going to be suspect.
So happy reading, not sure on my own opinion yet, so

The following paper by Bachall, et al published in Nature, 1985 gives information about the movement of the sun through the plane relative to mass extinctions and craterings. From the abstract:

Quote:

The period and amplitude of the Sun's motion perpendicular to the galactic plane are important parameters in some explanations of the terrestrial mass extinctions and cratering records1−5. Here we have calculated the range of periods and vertical excursions that are consistent with the distributions of tracer stars in the Galaxy and have also evaluated the probable phase jitter in the solar period. We find acceptable half-periods for the vertical oscillation that range from 26 to 37 Myr (including the range of periods that have been inferred from the terrestrial records on mass extinctions and on cratering), maximum heights above the plane from 49 to 93 pc, and an average phase jitter per half-period of the order of 6−9%. The largest uncertainty in all these calculations is caused by the unknown distribution of the unseen mass that must be postulated to explain the distribution of observed stars6−7. For all the models we consider, the most recent passage of the Sun through the galactic plane occurred in the past 3 Myr provided only that the present position of the Sun is between 0 and 20 pc above the plane. We extend the argument of Thaddeus and Chanan8 to show that the apparent periodicity in the mass extinction and cratering records cannot be caused by an population of objects (observed or unobserved) that contributes a major fraction of the total mass density at the solar vicinity.

Quote:

Our sun is also in motion. Relative to the average motion of the most commonly measured nearby stars, the sun moves with a speed of about 16.5 kilometers per second, or nearly 50 light-years per million years. The sun's path is inclined about 25 degrees to the plane of the galaxy and is headed toward a region in the constellation of Hercules near its border with Lyra. The sun oscillates through the plane of the galaxy with an amplitude of about 230 light-years, crossing the plane every 33 million years. However, the sun's motion relative to the local stellar neighborhood should not be confused with its movement around the center of the galaxy, since the whole solar neighborhood (including the sun) orbits the galactic center once every 250 million years. Just as we do not include the earth's velocity around the sun when calculating the speed of an airplane (we are only interested in the ground-speed), astronomers do not include the sun's galactic orbital velocity when describing its local motion.

cording to this study, conducted by Humphreys and Larsen, Dept. of Astronomy, University of Michigan, 1995; the sun is approximately 20.5pc above the galactic plane. This is equivalent to 63.6 light years.
http://adsabs.harvard.edu/abs/1995AJ....110.2183H

A more recent study by Reed of Dept. of Physics, Alma College using parallax measurements from OB stars, confirmed and refined, Humphreys, et al by concluding 19.5pc. and we all hear of 19.5 hyper dimensional properties so i wonder if being at that position could lead to something?
http://arxiv.org/ftp/astro-ph/papers/0507/0507655.pdf

http://adsabs.harvard.edu/abs/1985Natur.316..706B

I really do feel there should be a balance of info regarding this as there seems to be rucks of people believing the hype...? if it is hype?

Roll on 2013

[quest]

Originally Posted by Lee BURTON

Hi you asked for it, so here it is, there is a lot of reading but you could class this as pretty important.
We will always come back to the question , 'who do we trust?' NASA being a source of some of these reports is always going to be suspect.
So happy reading, not sure on my own opinion yet, so

The following paper by Bachall, et al published in Nature, 1985 gives information about the movement of the sun through the plane relative to mass extinctions and craterings. From the abstract:

Quote:

The period and amplitude of the Sun's motion perpendicular to the galactic plane are important parameters in some explanations of the terrestrial mass extinctions and cratering records1−5. Here we have calculated the range of periods and vertical excursions that are consistent with the distributions of tracer stars in the Galaxy and have also evaluated the probable phase jitter in the solar period. We find acceptable half-periods for the vertical oscillation that range from 26 to 37 Myr (including the range of periods that have been inferred from the terrestrial records on mass extinctions and on cratering), maximum heights above the plane from 49 to 93 pc, and an average phase jitter per half-period of the order of 6−9%. The largest uncertainty in all these calculations is caused by the unknown distribution of the unseen mass that must be postulated to explain the distribution of observed stars6−7. For all the models we consider, the most recent passage of the Sun through the galactic plane occurred in the past 3 Myr provided only that the present position of the Sun is between 0 and 20 pc above the plane. We extend the argument of Thaddeus and Chanan8 to show that the apparent periodicity in the mass extinction and cratering records cannot be caused by an population of objects (observed or unobserved) that contributes a major fraction of the total mass density at the solar vicinity.

Quote:

Our sun is also in motion. Relative to the average motion of the most commonly measured nearby stars, the sun moves with a speed of about 16.5 kilometers per second, or nearly 50 light-years per million years. The sun's path is inclined about 25 degrees to the plane of the galaxy and is headed toward a region in the constellation of Hercules near its border with Lyra. The sun oscillates through the plane of the galaxy with an amplitude of about 230 light-years, crossing the plane every 33 million years. However, the sun's motion relative to the local stellar neighborhood should not be confused with its movement around the center of the galaxy, since the whole solar neighborhood (including the sun) orbits the galactic center once every 250 million years. Just as we do not include the earth's velocity around the sun when calculating the speed of an airplane (we are only interested in the ground-speed), astronomers do not include the sun's galactic orbital velocity when describing its local motion.

cording to this study, conducted by Humphreys and Larsen, Dept. of Astronomy, University of Michigan, 1995; the sun is approximately 20.5pc above the galactic plane. This is equivalent to 63.6 light years.
http://adsabs.harvard.edu/abs/1995AJ....110.2183H

A more recent study by Reed of Dept. of Physics, Alma College using parallax measurements from OB stars, confirmed and refined, Humphreys, et al by concluding 19.5pc. and we all hear of 19.5 hyper dimensional properties so i wonder if being at that position could lead to something?
http://arxiv.org/ftp/astro-ph/papers/0507/0507655.pdf

http://adsabs.harvard.edu/abs/1985Natur.316..706B

I really do feel there should be a balance of info regarding this as there seems to be rucks of people believing the hype...? if it is hype?

Roll on 2013

hey thanks Lee!

i did found some info too, but have to finish some work first, so will be reading the next coming days.
the point is that that the more serious websites with useful info are oftentimes less easy to read
but yep, its worth it, copy-paste is easy but that makes it hard to define if their is truth in all the (dis)info.
i more and more believe some folks, entities, whatever, want us to believe the doom scenario’s. conspiracy sites with lots of creative people are a good alley to get started i guess.

i'll will respond later on the subject. thanks again.

[Luminari]

I just finished watching 'The Horizon Project' Episode 1 documentary:
http://isohunt.com/torrent_details/2...ct?tab=summary

Quite scary but a compelling and scientific argument for 2012, well produced feature.

[WalkingTurtle]

They are referring to
http://earthquake.usgs.gov/regional/...al_mag_big.php
So, the data sorted from this page would show the given graph at
http://www.thehorizonproject.com/earthquakes.cfm

See here:

|number of earthquakes M 6-9|year|
1 1556
1 1619
1 1663
1 1664
1 1668
1 1687
1 1693
1 1700
1 1730
1 1755
1 1787
1 1811
5 1812
1 1821
1 1823
1 1835
1 1836
1 1838
2 1843
1 1855
2 1857
1 1865
4 1868
1 1871
2 1872
1 1873
1 1875
1 1877
1 1882
1 1886
2 1887
1 1890
1 1891
3 1892
1 1895
1 1896
2 1897
2 1898
6 1899
1 1900
2 1901
2 1902
2 1903
2 1904
3 1905
4 1906
3 1907
3 1908
1 1909
4 1910
4 1911
2 1912
1 1914
3 1915
1 1917
4 1918
3 1920
3 1922
4 1923
4 1925
1 1926
4 1927
1 1928
5 1929
2 1930
4 1931
5 1932
4 1933
5 1934
6 1935
1 1937
3 1938
2 1939
3 1940
1 1941
4 1942
4 1943
4 1944
2 1945
6 1946
4 1947
4 1948
5 1949
2 1950
3 1951
2 1952
5 1953
8 1954
12 1957
4 1958
4 1959
3 1960
3 1962
2 1963
4 1964
13 1965
6 1966
3 1967
6 1968
4 1969
5 1970
4 1971
6 1972
1 1973
5 1974
6 1975
6 1976
2 1977
2 1978
2 1979
5 1980
3 1981
1 1982
4 1983
1 1984
4 1985
3 1986
4 1987
4 1988
2 1989
2 1990
3 1991
6 1992
3 1993
3 1994
4 1995
1 1996
5 1997
8 1998
13 1999
6 2000
7 2001
23 2002
39 2003
35 2004
35 2005
25 2006
47 2007
34 2008


WT

[Koyaanisqatsi]

nice work WT thank you!