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Old 12-03-2008, 09:58 PM   #1
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Spirituality has often been used throughout history to capture people's attention and then they add the bizzare to lead the people off to la la land.

Also I am pretty much in agreement with most comments in your last post, except some stuff about 'Jesus'(i have the same morals and understanding as you about what 'jesus' taught, but I don't actually believe he existed), and one other particular statement i don't agree with 'Earth has been visited by neg aliens'. Even if it was possible, that still doesn't make it so, because there is not enough evidence other than possibilty think - which is a new age technique to get people to think that way ie 'if it is possible it must be true'

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I'm not off any time soon to join any cult either. The new age movement in principle is a better understanding of the old age. But with the shills and profiteers around (as in the case of the 9/11 movement) it gets complicated.

As far as the existence of Jesus or neg aliens, it's a matter of eliminating the impossible, exploring/validating the remote viewing capabilities of those who possess it, and recognizing the alien technology around us (e.g. pulverization of the twin towers).


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I'm not off any time soon to join any cult either. The new age movement in principle is a better understanding of the old age. But with the shills and profiteers around (as in the case of the 9/11 movement) it gets complicated.

As far as the existence of Jesus or neg aliens, it's a matter of eliminating the impossible, exploring/validating the remote viewing capabilities of those who possess it, and recognizing the alien technology around us (e.g. pulverization of the twin towers).


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Well just be careful, because the new age is exactly that, a cult. And in fact it is in a way worse than old religions, even though old religions are tools of the elite as well, the new age is their upgraded religion creation specifically desgined to destroy all old religions and to give to the public as the new world religion to better control them. And that is one of the new age's appealing factors - putting out some of the truths about how old religions are no good and used to control etc. But that's just to get you onboard, because attatched as well comes all the new age beliefs that disable your mind.

And there is no alien technology around us. That is one of the main reasons why the PTB created the alien conspiracies and perpetuate them, it is a perfect cover for high technology we build here, with no help from aliens. Higher technology than the public know about has always been held secret by the ruling elite throughout history. There's no need for aliens to explain it. What the public see on the shelves is always obsolete. And aliens are the perfect cover story, cause you'll never find one to complain to or be able to do anything about it if it is aliens. This all goes back to the counter-intelligence techniques I've frequently talked about throughout this thread and any others I have posted on at this forum.

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Old 12-03-2008, 10:39 PM   #3
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Well just be careful, because the new age is exactly that, a cult. And in fact it is in a way worse than old religions, even though old religions are tools of the elite as well, the new age is their upgraded religion creation specifically desgined to destroy all old religions and to give to the public as the new world religion to better control them.

And there is no alien technology around us. That is one of the main reasons why the PTB created the alien conspiracies and perpetuate them, it is a perfect cover for high technology we build here, with no help from aliens. Higher technology than the public know about has always been held secret by the ruling elite throughout history. There's no need for aliens to explain it. What the public see on the shelves is always obsolete. And aliens are the perfect cover story, cause you'll never find one to complain to or be able to do anything about it if it is aliens. This all goes back to the counter-intelligence techniques I've frequently talked about throughout this thread and any others I have posted on at this forum.
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The new age is not THAT organized as a religion to replace/destroy the old religions. Is it?

No alien technology? Do you believe those people who called in at the same time to report a craft? Do you believe all the UFOs are man-made? Do you believe all the crop circles are man-made?

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Old 12-03-2008, 10:47 PM   #4
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The new age is not THAT organized as a religion to replace/destroy the old religions. Is it?
Yes it is. It is well disguised as not being organized, but you'll find that all roads lead to rome.

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Do you believe those people who called in at the same time to report a craft?
Sure, I'm sure some people are liars, but some also i'm sure really see things and report them, but it doesn't mean they are alien.

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Do you believe all the UFOs are man-made?
Yes. The BBC even did a documentary in the 70's showing some of these UFO saucers flying in and out of military hangers. You'll find that although very well disguised and mixed in with all the junk, that most truths are published by the PTB, in books by big players, from big foundations and institutions. They publish their plans and how they do everything if you know where to look. It is almost a legalistic thing to tell the victims so they can say 'it's not like we didn't tell you.'

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Do you believe all the crop circles are man-made?
They certainly weren't made by aliens! I know there are some crop circles that defy the logic of being simply faked by people with boards and what not, but there are a fair amount of other possibilties, such as high technology used to fool us and perpetuate alien conspiracies, and there are actually some fairly interesting lectures avaiable on google/youtube of some scientific theories explaing them as well (not that I am a supporter of their findings). But aliens are the least likely. That's classic counter-intelligence technique at work again - by writing off anything that is extraordinary and unexplainable as alien.


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They certainly weren't made by aliens! I know there are some crop circles that defy the logic of being simply faked by people with boards and what not, but there are a fair amount of other possibilties, such as high technology used to fool us and perpetuate alien conspiracies, and there are actually some fairly interesting lectures avaiable on google/youtube of some scientific theories explaing them as well (not that I am a supporter of their findings). But aliens are the least likely. That's classic counter-intelligence technique at work again - by writing off anything that is extraordinary and unexplainable as alien.

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Was high technology too utilized to build the Egyptian pyramids? If not, how?

Are our pineal glands merely products of Darwin's evolution?

Where is the missing link between humans and apes?

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Old 12-04-2008, 12:50 AM   #6
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Was high technology too utilized to build the Egyptian pyramids? If not, how?

Are our pineal glands merely products of Darwin's evolution?

Where is the missing link between humans and apes?

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Darwin is a major major player in the elite's agenda, and the new age agenda, so no, i do not believe in darwinism. Contrary to popular belief, the evidence just isn't there. There doesn't need to be a missing link between humans and apes since darwin's theories(even though they weren't actually his theories) are false, and really just a modyfied modern form of ancient hinduism.

The building of the pyramids has been well documented and explained, there is no mystery. The mainstream media created the conspiracy and hype about there being a mystery, but you can easily find many many studies with all the evidence to show exactly how humans built the pyramids without high technology. The mass graveyards of thousands of workers who built the pyramid found around the pyramids for example is just some of the strong evidence.

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I love Alan Watt's poetry, I have to post at least a few that fit this discussion:

The Pentagon Churns Out Sage after Sage
Who Foresee All Disasters in this, the New Age,
Those Who Follow the Agenda, Some Truly Can,
Know Each Step to Come, They Study The Plan,
Novus Ordo Seclorum Must Succeed by Deception,
No Room for Errors, On Track, No Correction,
History Tells Without Any Doubt,
Military is Turned On the Rabble in Rout,
Always Disguised as 'For Your Protection,'
Their Function is Death in Any Dimension,
Yet Perception Distorted Alters Belief,
Wolves in Sheep's Clothing, Camouflaged Teeth


Citizenry Psy-Ops Operation,
People in Tizzy of Dis-information,
Truth of Which They Ne'er Possess,
Conflicting Data They Can't Process,
Fact and Fantasy, All Bound Together,
'Re' the Belief, 'Ligion' the Fetter,
Round in Circles, All Amazed,
Under Mind Control, They Must Be Dazed,
Psychological Warfare to have Success,
The Victims' Minds They Must Possess,
Until They Find They're All Alone,
Truth is Knockin' but No-one's Home


With Scary Hype, We Can Arrange,
All Your Attention on Climate Change,
With Phony Data and Lots of Excerpts,
Repeated Daily by Well-Paid Experts,
For Gaia's Will, There Must Be Sacrifice,
To Complete the Occultic Enterprise.
And For the New-Agers Out There, Whose Ears are Itchin',
Keep Following the Fantasy Web Spun by Z. Sitchin

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Old 12-04-2008, 04:26 AM   #8
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I love Alan Watt's poetry, I have to post at least a few that fit this discussion:

The Pentagon Churns Out Sage after Sage
Who Foresee All Disasters in this, the New Age,
Those Who Follow the Agenda, Some Truly Can,
Know Each Step to Come, They Study The Plan,
Novus Ordo Seclorum Must Succeed by Deception,
No Room for Errors, On Track, No Correction,
History Tells Without Any Doubt,
Military is Turned On the Rabble in Rout,
Always Disguised as 'For Your Protection,'
Their Function is Death in Any Dimension,
Yet Perception Distorted Alters Belief,
Wolves in Sheep's Clothing, Camouflaged Teeth


Citizenry Psy-Ops Operation,
People in Tizzy of Dis-information,
Truth of Which They Ne'er Possess,
Conflicting Data They Can't Process,
Fact and Fantasy, All Bound Together,
'Re' the Belief, 'Ligion' the Fetter,
Round in Circles, All Amazed,
Under Mind Control, They Must Be Dazed,
Psychological Warfare to have Success,
The Victims' Minds They Must Possess,
Until They Find They're All Alone,
Truth is Knockin' but No-one's Home


With Scary Hype, We Can Arrange,
All Your Attention on Climate Change,
With Phony Data and Lots of Excerpts,
Repeated Daily by Well-Paid Experts,
For Gaia's Will, There Must Be Sacrifice,
To Complete the Occultic Enterprise.
And For the New-Agers Out There, Whose Ears are Itchin',
Keep Following the Fantasy Web Spun by Z. Sitchin
Well, that could be better,
Though i like the last one with Itchin' and Sitchin.....
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Doom, GoingToFast was right:

You DO really believe in a 'BEARDED GOD'....


--- His name is: ..................Alan Watt. ---




doesn't it ? Hehe, just kidding

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Old 12-04-2008, 05:56 AM   #9
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Well, that could be better,
Though i like the last one with Itchin' and Sitchin.....
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Doom, GoingToFast was right:

You DO really believe in a 'BEARDED GOD'....


--- His name is: ..................Alan Watt. ---




doesn't it ? Hehe, just kidding

salute.

Hhaha. Alas, Alan is no god. Nor do I 'believe' in him. But I do credit him for motivating me to really get to the sources of information and research for myself rather than take other researchers word for it.

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Hhaha. Alas, Alan is no god. Nor do I 'believe' in him. But I do credit him for motivating me to really get to the sources of information and research for myself rather than take other researchers word for it.
Yeah, ok.

Seriously i listened to him on RED-ICE Creations, and i found him a very knowledgeable guy.
He shed some very good light on many aspects of the 'whole NWO scam'.
I respect him for this.

For some reason, they ceased (the Palmgren brothers of RED-ICE ) to re-invite him to his monthly radio show.

The Palmgren brothers said that Watt did'nt bring any solutions down the line, only rehearsing the same old NWO thing, so that's why it seems they got tired of him.... - And probably Watt did'nt like it.-

Doom, I am not saying this to start a mud fight, but just to let you know.

I respect both of these men (Maxwell,Tsarion,Watt,Icke..etc) they are humans with their own weaknesses. They All bring an 'aspect' of the whole thing.

The danger is where you stick too tightly to a point of view.
It's healthy to reassess your beliefs once in a while.

Challenge your own perspective of things, you'll get better at it with time.

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Yeah, ok.

Seriously i listened to him on RED-ICE Creations, and i found him a very knowledgeable guy.
He shed some very good light on many aspects of the 'whole NWO scam'.
I respect him for this.

For some reason, they ceased (the Palmgren brothers of RED-ICE ) to re-invite him to his monthly radio show.

The Palmgren brothers said is that Watt did'nt bring any solutions down the line, only rehearsing the same old NWO thing, so that's why it seems they got tired of him.... - And probably Watt did'nt like it.-

Doom, I am not saying this to start a mud fight, but just to let you know.

I respect both of these men (Maxwell,Tsarion,Watt,Icke..etc) they are humans with their own weaknesses. They All bring an 'aspect' of the whole thing.

The danger is where you stick too tightly to a point of view.
It's healthy to reassess your beliefs once in a while.

Challenge your own perspective of things, you'll get better at it with time.

salute.
Alan Watt is not on Red Ice anymore is because they (Palmgren/David Icke/Tsarion) wanted him to talk about about aliens and reptilians. They even offered him a book deal and dvd plans etc. and told him he'd be making big $. But Alan Watt said he told them 'No, I won't do your biddings, I know you work for MI5 and MI6 like your mentor Crowley'. And since then he hasn't heard from them other than some angry emails. As you said they thought Alan was boring, they don't want to hear the 'boring' truth, they want to hear fantastic fantasy. Basically they gave him an ultimatim to start spewing disinfo or they'd take him off the air.

The danger is sticking too tightly to a point of view indeed, cause you can't see everything from one point of view. And I don't stick with one point of view ever, I always try to get all sides of the story before coming to my conclusions. It's the new agers who stick too tightly to their point of view, as you can see often at this message board, many are like religious fanatics and will insult and do anything but be rational when someone goes against their beliefs. I have no problem discussing opposing beliefs as you see, I respect other's opinions, but that doesn't mean I can't share my opposing opinions.
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Alan Watt is not on Red Ice anymore is because they (Palmgren/David Icke/Tsarion) wanted him to talk about about aliens and reptilians. They even offered him a book deal and dvd plans etc. and told him he'd be making big $. But Alan Watt said he told them 'No, I won't do your biddings,
Well, i find this VERY hard to believe...

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I know you work for MI5 and MI6 like your mentor Crowley'. And since then he hasn't heard from them other than some angry emails. As you said they thought Alan was boring, they don't want to hear the 'boring' truth, they want to hear fantastic fantasy. Basically they gave him an ultimatim to start spewing disinfo or they'd take him off the air.

For the MI5 thing, Palmgren of course got aware of this and answered in his forum he did'nt have to defend himself against such funny thing,.... people will decide.

I just think Mr. Watt just got frustrated for being showed the door....

Anyways, believe me, I was surprised and disapointed when i knew of this.
I was very much impressed with Watts radio sessions.


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The danger is sticking too tightly to a point of view indeed, cause you can't see everything from one point of view. And I don't stick with one point of view ever, I always try to get all sides of the story before coming to my conclusions. It's the new agers who stick too tightly to their point of view, as you can see often at this message board, many are like religious fanatics and will insult and do anything but be rational when someone goes against their beliefs. I have no problem discussing opposing beliefs as you see, I respect other's opinions, but that doesn't mean I can't share my opposing opinions.
I have to a agree on this.


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Well, i find this VERY hard to believe...




For the MI5 thing, Palmgren of course got aware of this and answered in his forum he did'nt have to defend himself against such funny thing,.... people will decide.

I just think Mr. Watt just got frustrated for being showed the door....

Anyways, believe me, I was surprised and disapointed when i knew of this.
I was very much impressed with Watts radio sessions.




I have to a agree on this.


salute.
Well we'll just have to agree to disagree on the Watt/Red Ice situation, my opinion knowing what I know about the kind of dis-info those guys put out and the backing behind it, is that I give the benefit of the doubt to Alan in this situation. Cause all we have is someone's word against someone else's, and character and integrity says a lot in that situation, which Alan definitely possesses more of (in my opinion of course). But of course there is no way to know for absolute certainty what happened between them. And it's more important to discuss their information than their personal battles and reasons for disliking each other or whatever, I think we both know that won't get us anywhere.
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Darwin is a major major player in the elite's agenda, and the new age agenda, so no, i do not believe in darwinism. Contrary to popular belief, the evidence just isn't there. There doesn't need to be a missing link between humans and apes since darwin's theories(even though they weren't actually his theories) are false, and really just a modyfied modern form of ancient hinduism.

The building of the pyramids has been well documented and explained, there is no mystery. The mainstream media created the conspiracy and hype about there being a mystery, but you can easily find many many studies with all the evidence to show exactly how humans built the pyramids without high technology. The mass graveyards of thousands of workers who built the pyramid found around the pyramids for example is just some of the strong evidence.
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If humans did not evolve from apes, where did humans evolve from? Adam and Eve? The missing link is there. Where is it?

Did you research on the bodies of the workers? Did you locate evidence of work related injury or death? Evidence indicative of falling from high places, broken bones, compressed spinal cords, etc? Or their tools?

My second question is still unanswered: Are our pineal glands merely products of Darwin's evolution?

If not from Darwin's evolution, where did humans get their pineal glands from?


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If humans did not evolve from apes, where did humans evolve from? Adam and Eve? The missing link is there. Where is it?

Did you research on the bodies of the workers? Did you locate evidence of work related injury or death? Evidence indicative of falling from high places, broken bones, compressed spinal cords, etc? Or their tools?

My second question is still unanswered: Are our pineal glands merely products of Darwin's evolution?

If not from Darwin's evolution, where did humans get their pineal glands from?


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Why did humans have to evolve from another animal? There is no missing link, it is a complete farce, and so is the christian creationist stories too which are all exoteric misunderstandings of whose real meanings are esoteric. You see, I'm not on either side of the basic 'evolution vs creationism' arguement. The answer often not black and white.

Listen, I'm not going to do all the research and thinking for you and present it all here. This is obviously a vast subject. I am just trying to motivate people to do research themselves, and offer some of my opinons. But yes I have done extensive research on the pyramids, and the all the evidence is there for how they were built, there is no mystery, check out the library there are plenty of legit independent studies of the pyramids' building.

And I think you're misunderstood about the pineal gland, and seeing the exoteric meaning but not the esoteric.

Here, check this out:

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The ancients wrote about the mind. The Third Eye is very simple, as the exoteric people delve into what they think are mysteries, looking for pineal glands and other methods of stimulating the pineal gland and opening up a pathway—and knowledge will just flood into them. You earn knowledge by examining yourself, because all knowledge ultimately must be within. It's a sad state when we can look around us and see that in many, many people all they have is extraneous knowledge given to them, often misunderstood, misquoted, going from the simplistic to the bizarre.

The mind is the Third Eye, because all perceptions ultimately must be deciphered by the mind of the person. That is why a trick of rulers in all ages and priesthoods, who taught this to pharaohs, was that they could alter the perceptions of slaves and vast conquered peoples by getting between the mind of the person and the perceptions. Therefore, their conclusions would be faulty, purposely made so. This was done through early indoctrination into superstitions. When the mind tried to formulate conclusions, the indoctrination would kick in and they'd compare the new experiences to these indoctrinations and come to faulty conclusions, which kept them enslaved and obedient.

The serpent is an allegory for wisdom. Wisdom for what?

The Egyptians wore the Uraeus, the cobra on a head band. The cobra sat on the forehead, the Third Eye. The idea being (and that is also a pun)—between the eyes and the idea. The idea being that you have to guard your mind, being the one who was wise and born into a wise family or class—an educated family or class, you would have wisdom.

I've gone into the fact that, primarily, these high families were psychopathic in origin and interbred, and therefore kept the knowledge to themselves, because psychopaths must always try and gain power, total power over everyone else. That's our dilemma in this world. The serpent strikes. When it strikes, ancient people used to wonder why it would it let so many people pass a particular route or road or track, and only strike the occasional person here or there? In other words, when anyone got too near to it—too near is the key—it would strike and defend itself. The idea being that they used serpent or the cobra, which had this lightening strike, to strike something that didn't want to come near it. They used that around the head band as a symbol that they would strike anything which tried to enter (or unauthorized) into their mind. It guarded the mind. The people around did not have the right to wear the Uraeus because they were the ruled. In fact, it was mandatory that they be open for all indoctrination, all erroneous teachings, superstition and so on. - Alan Watt
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Why did humans have to evolve from another animal? There is no missing link, it is a complete farce, and so is the christian creationist stories too which are all exoteric misunderstandings of whose real meanings are esoteric. You see, I'm not on either side of the basic 'evolution vs creationism' arguement. The answer often not black and white.

Listen, I'm not going to do all the research and thinking for you and present it all here. This is obviously a vast subject. I am just trying to motivate people to do research themselves, and offer some of my opinons. But yes I have done extensive research on the pyramids, and the all the evidence is there for how they were built, there is no mystery, check out the library there are plenty of legit independent studies of the pyramids' building.

And I think you're misunderstood about the pineal gland, and seeing the exoteric meaning but not the esoteric.
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I agree; humans do not have to evolve from another animal. However, are you saying that humans did not undergo the process of evolution and that humans just appeared on the scene after the dinosaurs?

When time permits, please articulate on how the pyramids were built and the injuries and deaths the locals have suffered in building the pyramids.

Thank you for explaining the esoteric meaning of the pineal gland. Does it exist? If so, what function does it serve?

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I agree; humans do not have to evolve from another animal. However, are you saying that humans did not undergo the process of evolution and that humans just appeared on the scene after the dinosaurs?

When time permits, please articulate on how the pyramids were built and the injuries and deaths the locals have suffered in building the pyramids.

Thank you for explaining the esoteric meaning of the pineal gland. Does it exist? If so, what function does it serve?

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I trust you'll be able to find some information on the pyramids. And you don't really need to go much further than that with the pineal gland, we need to focus on stopping the new world order and the things that are happening to us right now in realy, they are depopulating us as we speak by controlling and manipulating the food, water and air, and weather. This is a nightmare we live in right now we have to relize that to even begin to fix it. And not worry about our 'pineal gland', or 'defeating the evil in our ego', and 'seeing beyond 5 sense reality' and even finding out the origin of man because at the moment we have to accept that it cannot be known for certain. So many of these new age type thought patterns that make ourselves our own enemy. Though, it is our fault in a way for letting this happen to us, but we can't keep blaming ourself, we have to forgive ourselves and not let this happen anymore. We are a long ways from serious solutions and changes right now, because we are so far behind. We need to be worried about surviving as a species and keeping this information alive for the next generation, we need to make sure there is a next generation. This is something bigger than each one of us, this is for everyone who has ever lived and everyone who deserves a chance to live in the future.

As for humans apppearing after dinosaurs. I don't know. I don't have all the answers on the origns of man. I have my suspicions and many opinions, but I don't think we truly can know for sure. The sciences used to tell us we do know are not sound. Science is a very effective tool, because it can be used so deceptively to convince the public no other thing could be possible, especially with the use of statistics, when in fact scientific theories change by the minute. I don't deny it is possible for species to change over time, obviously many speices are very adaptable, especially humans. But a simple truth like that can easily be twisted and used and attached to conditions and ideas that aren't necessarily true and used by the ruling elite to control the public. With evolution we have the survival fo the fittest, darwinism, eugenics essentially, as well coming with it often is atheism and essentially the belief that we are worthless and nothing special. And to go deeper they have the spiritual atheists who make it out to be an amazingly beautiful thing that we are worthless, it is such an honor to be so lucky that science just happened to result this way so that we have lives like we do. All information is managed for purposes you see.

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Old 12-04-2008, 06:46 PM   #18
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I trust you'll be able to find some information on the pyramids. And you don't really need to go much further than that with the pineal gland, we need to focus on stopping the new world order and the things that are happening to us right now in realy, they are depopulating us as we speak by controlling and manipulating the food, water and air, and weather. This is a nightmare we live in right now we have to relize that to even begin to fix it. And not worry about our 'pineal gland', or 'defeating the evil in our ego', and 'seeing beyond 5 sense reality' and even finding out the origin of man because at the moment we have to accept that it cannot be known for certain. So many of these new age type thought patterns that make ourselves our own enemy. Though, it is our fault in a way for letting this happen to us, but we can't keep blaming ourself, we have to forgive ourselves and not let this happen anymore. We are a long ways from serious solutions and changes right now, because we are so far behind. We need to be worried about surviving as a species and keeping this information alive for the next generation, we need to make sure there is a next generation. This is something bigger than each one of us, this is for everyone who has ever lived and everyone who deserves a chance to live in the future.

As for humans apppearing after dinosaurs. I don't know. I don't have all the answers on the origns of man. I have my suspicions and many opinions, but I don't think we truly can know for sure. The sciences used to tell us we do know are not sound. Science is a very effective tool, because it can be used so deceptively to convince the public no other thing could be possible, especially with the use of statistics, when in fact scientific theories change by the minute. I don't deny it is possible for species to change over time, obviously many speices are very adaptable, especially humans. But a simple truth like that can easily be twisted and used and attached to conditions and ideas that aren't necessarily true and used by the ruling elite to control the public. With evolution we have the survival fo the fittest, darwinism, eugenics essentially, as well coming with it often is atheism and essentially the belief that we are worthless and nothing special. And to go deeper they have the spiritual atheists who make it out to be an amazingly beautiful thing that we are worthless, it is such an honor to be so lucky that science just happened to result this way so that we have lives like we do. All information is managed for purposes you see.
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If you don't have all the answers on the origins of man, at least be open to the possibility of alien intervention/hybridization of humans. Also consider the validity of recent scientific findings (e.g. http://www.bibliotecapleyades.net/ci...ncia_adn07.htm).

Doom, I am doing the best I can to alert the others; even on a dentist chair, I would tell about the CIA drug trafficking. I've reminded others (Americans) whether they would like the national heath care program to be centralized and administered by a small group of psychopaths. I have shared my concerns on the AIDS program, the 9/11 controlled demolitions, the HARRP, etc.

If the concept/acceptance of ET presence is outside your comfort zone and not your primary concern, I'd respect your free will.


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p.s. This'd be my last post in this J.M. thread. Many thanks to the inputs from milk and honey.
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If you don't have all the answers on the origins of man, at least be open to the possibility of alien intervention/hybridization of humans. Also consider the validity of recent scientific findings (e.g. http://www.bibliotecapleyades.net/ci...ncia_adn07.htm).

Doom, I am doing the best I can to alert the others; even on a dentist chair, I would tell about the CIA drug trafficking.
If the concept/acceptance of ET presence is outside your comfort zone and not your primary concern, I'd respect your free will.


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It has nothing to do with being 'outside my comfort zone' the fact is i've researched it extensively and found it to be counter-intelligence. In fact because of how much I know about it from many sides of the story, it happens to be very much in my comfort zone to talk about it and expose it. I was once more than 'open minded' about it, which is why I researched it in the first place, i believed it to be true at one point too, until I did more research and more research.

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