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Old 12-31-2008, 07:54 PM   #1
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interesting prospective.
I believe their is a lot of truth in what your saying. but.



I refuse to be fearful of this subject. its man that's screwing things up. If the beings from other places wanted the planet. it would have already happened. I don't drought that there are not so good agenda out there. but look to man. not alien.



sounds like the invasion of the body snatchers all over again. and if its true. sigh me up. I want off this rock. the only reason Im sticking @ is to see the great transformation that's about to happen. and be a part of it. its the only thing I really look forward to. the rest of it (LIFE) is some lesions. and a lot of BS. its all made up. everything is all made up. it exists because we believe it.



set that pod under my bed. it cant be worse than what's going on now on the planet. Im spending my time reading and listening to the hand books as well. keep an eye on this. but don't give it all your energy. I say look onto the government. as a fear campaign. to keep us in control. a more likely prospective.

most of us are past the shock of it all.



thanks for posting.

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Old 12-31-2008, 10:49 PM   #2
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If the beings from other places wanted the planet. it would have already happened.
Well, Kevin's information has prompted me to reconsider this often used platitude. Maybe the agenda and MO is to sneakily come in and replace us one family at a time - and the whole bigger scope of secretly controlling the world. Is your reaction fear? I don't think it has to be - when the information is brought into the light is it no longer a sneaky secret plot, and can no longer proceed under that MO.

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Old 01-01-2009, 03:07 AM   #3
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Well, Kevin's information has prompted me to reconsider this often used platitude. Maybe the agenda and MO is to sneakily come in and replace us one family at a time - and the whole bigger scope of secretly controlling the world. Is your reaction fear? I don't think it has to be - when the information is brought into the light is it no longer a sneaky secret plot, and can no longer proceed under that MO.
no fear here. I was just shooting from the hip. I may have got ahead of the post. lets face it. there is a lot going on. we all feel it. and its a lot to deal with. my thought were that it had to do more with the governments. than aliens. I not dismissing any of it. hope we can get to the bottom of this. I know I want to see where all this leads to. I have a feeling there is more to this story. and if its anything like I have discovered. there is light at the end of the tunnel.
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Old 01-02-2009, 06:44 PM   #4
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I have been asked not to mention other sites here and the problems i am having on those sites and thats fine, no names of these sites, but I will say that 4 different sites i have accessed have been tampered with, posts not being posted, emails sent not getting there, emails recieved tampered with,friends accounts totally deleted.


At least 2 different forums I can not access at all, redirected, error messages 404, messeges saying server busy, and yet this only happens when I try to log in to these sites, in other words I can visit these sites where I have acctive accounts, and yet I am being prevented from participitating.

Now because e-mails have been tampered with I have logged a formal complaint with the FCC and prompted an investigation.

On another note, my lawyers neice watched me go down a street here in Portland, a few minutes later I was seen walking a couple hundred feet behind me identical in every way, she walked out of a store to witness me twice, the same alien replican who lived my life in my place in washington, in other words he is here in Portland now and I wonder what kind of mischef he is creating in my place.

Another update,
A friend of mine went and drove by one of our new penetentaries which were built all over the country, Penetentaries which were built at the cost of billions to U.S. tax payers, Penetentaries which are supposedly empty due to lack of funding all of these new jails are supposedly empty, Saw that one of these jails was fully staffed, and sherrifs busses leaving and arriving full of people, these new JAILS ARE NOT EMPTY as advertized, they are filling up with people who have been kidnapped replaced by Extra Terestrials, people who are not technically missing so no one is questioning anything. We are being replaced.

And our new court houses like the Mark O Hatfield in portland Or. and the one at 7th and market st. in San Francisco are in every major city on the planet and there are particle accelerators built into these buildings they can be seen, they are identical to the partical accelerator at Fermi Lab outside of Chicago

THESE NEW COURT HOUSES ARE TROJAN HORSES, WITH PORTALS BUILT INTO THEM, THEY ARRIVE BECOME YOU AND YOU GET KIDNAPPED AND END UP IN ONE OF THESE NEW JAILS. STARGATE TECHNOLOGY HAS BEEN AROUND FOR A LONG LONG TIME
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-imN9...e=channel_page

these people continue to mess with my life every single day, constant death threats, and constant harrassment, what ever happened to civil rights?
Bank account wiped out, friends murdered, things planted in your teeth, manipulated into homelessness, every job you take gets messed with.
Wake up to the alien agenda because I am not alone, countless others are being messed with they just do not realize it yet.
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Old 01-03-2009, 12:43 AM   #5
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slow day only 3 new death threats given to me to report and only 5 new blocks to my information getting out
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Old 01-04-2009, 03:02 AM   #6
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You know, Kevin, some of those threats look to be from anonymous crackpots playing with your mind. This is not to discount some may be true death threats, but I am appalled at the human condition where jerks love to play on the fears of those who are already so tormented. Sick. Sick. Sick. Just go out and read any youtube page with comments and there are likely to be numerous derogatory, inflammatory, or threatening comments.

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Old 01-04-2009, 04:56 AM   #7
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Hmmm.............

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Old 01-04-2009, 05:11 AM   #8
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Three quarters of the miseries and misunderstandings in the world would finish if people were to put on the shoes of their adversaries and understood their points of view”

timetotelltheworld your message is out. we here you. now fallow some advise that was given.

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Old 01-03-2009, 11:11 AM   #9
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Josephine -

What does St Clair say about alien creator gods?
- nothing at all [so far anyway, I am near the end.]
I like the book, it's idiosyncratic, but very human and from a good perspective. Lots of predictions too! But that's his bag innit.
Will have to re-read though as always.
It may not be up your street.
Could provide some quotes or a review of sorts in due course if you'd like?

Burgundia - sounds interesting, I'll look it up.
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Old 01-03-2009, 10:25 PM   #10
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running out of energy, running out of everything, feeling sick to my stomach and knees buckleing, gotta go
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Old 01-05-2009, 12:59 AM   #11
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I'm reading this for the 4th time...........

why did they mess with you? Why and How did you manage to make it out of there without being killed?

I believe in alot of what you are saying and the fact that you are in this room writing this bothers the hell out of me.
This makes the whole story unbelievable.

There is no way you can be in here writing this and survived all that when the rest are all dead or replaced. Just why would they spare you?

I really want to understand how you can say all aliens are bad..........What is the purpose? They can just do it, no need to wait for a certain time. I can't believe they are all bad........

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Old 01-05-2009, 10:11 AM   #12
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I think it better to make this short and simple:

It is hard for anyone to know what kind of help you need, as we do not know you.

I do not think that any of us feel like telling the whole world about your story at this point, since we do not know you.

If you just keep on repeating yourself, it will make no difference, we still do not know you.
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Old 01-06-2009, 02:39 AM   #13
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Hi everyone,

I think if you take the time to read through what Kevin has already posted, you will find some of these questions have already been answered. If Kevin's story is indeed true, then imagine what your own state of mind would be like if you had gone through all that - most would be locked up. Maybe someone with some writing skills could help him better organize his story and information.

What if you were homeless and pressured with 15 or 30 minute slots of time to get online at the library and post your story? How coherent would you sound?

This is a person - a human being - that has been given a Witness Pass to come here and tell his story which he has just recently decided to tell to the world. Please treat him with respect.

Gently coach him with suggestions on a better presentation - give him a hand here.

I chatted with him today about answering some of these recent questions, but do understand he does have limited time on a public computer where he has to wait in line to get another time slot.

I don't see Kevin asking for any help other than to spread the word, because the shenanigans of darkness can no longer be pulled off when exposed to the light of the truth. I'm asking you to help by treating him with respect, giving constructive suggestions, and if anyone feels inspired to do so, to help him edit his presentation. Golden rule type of stuff - how would you like to be treated is this was you.

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Old 01-06-2009, 08:23 AM   #14
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Hi everyone,

I think if you take the time to read through what Kevin has already posted, you will find some of these questions have already been answered. If Kevin's story is indeed true, then imagine what your own state of mind would be like if you had gone through all that - most would be locked up. Maybe someone with some writing skills could help him better organize his story and information.

What if you were homeless and pressured with 15 or 30 minute slots of time to get online at the library and post your story? How coherent would you sound?

This is a person - a human being - that has been given a Witness Pass to come here and tell his story which he has just recently decided to tell to the world. Please treat him with respect.

Gently coach him with suggestions on a better presentation - give him a hand here.

I chatted with him today about answering some of these recent questions, but do understand he does have limited time on a public computer where he has to wait in line to get another time slot.

I don't see Kevin asking for any help other than to spread the word, because the shenanigans of darkness can no longer be pulled off when exposed to the light of the truth. I'm asking you to help by treating him with respect, giving constructive suggestions, and if anyone feels inspired to do so, to help him edit his presentation. Golden rule type of stuff - how would you like to be treated is this was you.

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I see your points. But I suggest that the Avalon Forum is not the place to deal with it. It has to be someone who can see the man face-to-face and take it from there.
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Old 01-06-2009, 07:45 PM   #15
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But what people like us can do? Imagine yourself sending e-mails or talking to your friends about everything timetotellthetruth has written here. Most people hardly believe in the existence of aliens.
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It is not a matter of not believing that aliens exist and that they are here.

It is a matter of believing the story that timetotelltheworld is telling us. Without someone contacting him personally, this should not be passed on. The responsibility of telling a scary story that is not true, or is half true, is just too great. Let us take the example of Bill and Kerry. They went to the whistleblowers and interviewed them. Had they come with the stories on hearsay, would we have believed them?

He could be a mind control victim, believing everything he says is true.

This is one of several possibilities that have to be ruled out.

When did this Forum of intelligent people think it is ok to pass on a story like this without checking it? It could be another ploy to generate unwarranted fear.

Sorry, timetotelltheworld. I hope you are not as gullible as you want us to be, surely?

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It is not a matter of not believing that aliens exist and that they are here.

It is a matter of believing the story that timetotelltheworld is telling us. Without someone contacting him personally, this should not be passed on. The responsibility of telling a scary story that is not true, or is half true, is just too great.

He could be a mind control victim, believing everything he says is true.

This is one of several possibilities that have to be ruled out.

When did this Forum of intelligent people think it is ok to pass on a story like this without checking it? I could be another ply to generate unwarranted fear.

Sorry, timetotelltheworld. I hope you are not as gullible as you want us to be, surely?
Very wise remarks.
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Aloha Josefine,

It is Kerry Cassidy's opinion that information should not be censored. Subsequently, timetotellthetruth is here with her blessings.

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Old 01-07-2009, 01:00 AM   #19
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well god bless Kerry Cassidy, one of the last great people of free speech, there is so much more i know and its so frustrating to know this is happening and feel so helpless

but all the information is out there all of it, and if you look at all the people trying to discredit everything, and I mean everything from fema camps to pyramids on the moon or all the people trying to discredit the disclosure project or anything else even the kennedy assanination, william milton coopers behold the pale horse, look at the people on youtube adamantly trying to discredit, reliable witnesses, look at the interviews with our astronauts, just look for these interviews in the comments why are so many people trying to discredit.

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they dont want you to know they are here and replacing us
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well god bless Kerry Cassidy, one of the last great people of free speech, there is so much more i know and its so frustrating to know this is happening and feel so helpless

but all the information is out there all of it, and if you look at all the people trying to discredit everything, and I mean everything from fema camps to pyramids on the moon or all the people trying to discredit the disclosure project or anything else even the kennedy assanination, william milton coopers behold the pale horse, look at the people on youtube adamantly trying to discredit, reliable witnesses, look at the interviews with our astronauts, just look for these interviews in the comments why are so many people trying to discredit.

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they dont want you to know they are here and replacing us
Are you afraid,we are not of this world any way.School is almost over and its time to go home.
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Old 01-07-2009, 01:48 AM   #21
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Kevin,
Thanks for the personal email today it confirmed all of my thoughts.
I am very aware of all you talk about plus more. I connect with myself daily and have become a ambassador for a lack of a better term. People will become aware on there own and Some are not intended to know right now. There is also soulless beings on earth who's job is to spread disinfo and support the matrix which makes spreading truth much harder. As we continue on our journey all truths will be revealed for all to see. I understand your frustration and feel your pain look inside for guidance.

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This should shed some light on the things were not supposed to know about!

In the Book of Enoch, left out of the bible, Enoch describes where God lives as a Crystal Palace floating in the heavens surrounded by fire that not even the Angles can get to.

7 miles above the lunar surface tied to a cable without fire is this crystal castle "Palace."
Just a thought and here is NASA photos of that palace:
http://www.bibliotecapleyades.net/luna/esp_luna_26.htm

And here's artwork all over Europe depicting Jesus as an Extra Terrestrial
http://www.dudeman.net/siriusly/ufo/art.html

What we are witnessing is a con. Just how deep and how far back does it go?

Gospel of Judas - few have seen - here it is, sent to me by Michael Tellinger:
20 April 2006.

The Gospel or the Truth

The English language has a wonderful way of using unrelated words to represent a specific meaning, when such words are used in our daily conversations. Gospel, is one such word that has commonly replaced most other superlatives when trying to express the highest level of truth, confidence or credibility.

The past few weeks has seen a new attack on the word "gospel" as the world turned with great interest towards the newly unveiled "Gospel of Judas". National Geographic presented the translations to a seemingly stunned world not quite sure how to deal with this "new truth" from the last days of Jesus Christ. This 1700 year old and rather tatty document contains a debate between Jesus and Judas and paints a somewhat different picture about events surrounding the last supper. "Judas said to him, "I know who you are and where you have come from. You are from the immortal realm of Barbelo. And I am not worthy to utter the name of the one who has sent you." This will certainly not please the hardcore biblical scholars and sounds rather similar to the 'clan' of immortal gods that set out to create humankind as described in the Sumerian tablets.

Those that have read "Slave Species of god" will be familiar with the life and teachings of Jesus before he arrived back in Canaan to begin the last three years of his teaching. In the East he was known as St. Issa and in the Americas he was referred to as the "Great White Robed Master" or the "Pale One" or the "Pale Great Master" and other names like "The Prophet".

But Jesus was constantly surrounded by angels, ever-ready to strike in his defense. And he often refers to his angels that can either come to his rescue or perform some other miraculous feat. And the new Gospel is no exception: "And a luminous cloud appeared there. He said, 'Let an angel come into being as my attendant.'… "A great angel, the enlightened divine Self-Generated, emerged from the cloud. Because of him, four other angels came into being from another cloud… (Gospel of Judas. A link to the full Gospel is at the bottom of this email)

The question begs… who were these so-called angels? Why did they constantly appear when there was trouble brewing or when it was about to hit the fan? As in Sodom !

As can be seen, this idea is clearly continued in this new "Gospel of Judas" as Jesus refers to angels appearing out of clouds in the sky. He also refers to a greater universal being that controls all these angels and a being that has not been seen among men and angels. Not dissimilar to what we read in the Sumerian tablets. A really shocking revelation is when Jesus refers to another realm of 'more advanced beings'.

"They said to him, "Master, where did you go and what did you do when you left us?"

Jesus said to them, "I went to another great and holy generation." His disciples said to him, "Lord, what is the great generation that is superior to us and holier than us, that is not now in these realms?" When Jesus heard this, he laughed…no host of angels of the stars will rule over that generation, and no person of mortal birth can associate with it, because that generation does not come from… The generation of people among you is from the generation of humanity…" When his disciples heard this, they each were troubled in spirit."

Then we read about 12 luminaries who ruled, in the same way that all ancient mythologies have exposed us to their pantheon on 12 gods. "Adamas was in the first luminous cloud that no angel has ever seen among all those called 'God.'" Is Jesus referring to a larger number of "gods" that ruled the world?

The problem is that this Gospel, like many others before it has been deemed to be less valuable than the material it was written on. This new Gospel contradicts the New Testament in many ways and has already caused large numbers of religious leaders around the world to discredit it. But we should not be surprised at this behaviour as many so called Apocryphal books have received the same treatment in the early days of Christianity when the New Testament was being compiled by men with personal agendas.

The Apocrypha (hidden things/writings) is a collection of books written mostly by authors of other books of the Bible, but the Apocrypha were not included in any of the Bibles. They deal with Christian and Biblical themes, some from the times of the Old Testament, others from the times of the New Testament. There are many Apocryphal books that were not deemed fit by the 'editors' of the New Testament to be included, mainly because the message they carry is often in direct contradiction to the agenda of the editors, who were Roman Emperors and their appointed religious sidekicks.

This is a list of some Apocrypha, there are over 40 linked to the New Testament:

14 Gospels, by Thomas, James, Peter, Bartholomew; 15 Acts, by Andrew, Peter, Matthew, John, Thomas, Paul... 6 Revelations, by Paul, Thomas, John, Virgin Mary, Stephen, Peter... Acts of John, Acts of Paul, Acts of Paul and Thecla, Acts of Peter, Apocalypse of James (I), Apocalypse of James (II), Apocalypse of Peter, Apocalypse of Philip, Apocalypse of Stephan, Apocalypse of Thomas, Apocryphon of John, Epistle of Pontius Pilate, Gospel of Nicodemus, Gospel of Perfection, Gospel of Philip, Gospel of Peter, Revelation of Peter, Protevangelium of James, Gospel of the Birth of Mary, Gospel of the Hebrews, Gospel of the Infancy of Jesus Christ, Gospel of Thomas, Gospel of Truth, History of Joseph, Letter of Paul to the Alexandrians, Testament of the Lord, Wisdom of Jesus.

The real work surrounding these books began with Flavius Valerius Constantinus – 272 - 337 AD, commonly known as Constantine the Great, he became known as the first 'Christian Emperor' of the Roman empire and began the Empire's unofficial sponsoring of Christianity, which was a major factor in the survival and spread of the religion. He founded the city of Constantinople ( Istanbul ) as the new capital of the Eastern Empire which became the home of Christianity, filled with large numbers of churches and temples. He also proclaimed that Sunday would be the day of worship.

The First Council of Nicaea, which was called by Constantine in 325 AD, was the first ecumenical (worldwide) conference of bishops of the Christian Church. The participating bishops were given free travel and lodging. The council, which was also called a synod, dealt with the problems created by the Aryan controversy, concerning the nature and status of Jesus. The Aryans had their own views of who Jesus really was. We must remember that Jesus spent most of his growing life, since the age of 12 or 13 in the East, under the influence of several eastern religious philosophies and Aryanism was just one of them. Finally the Synod decided against the Aryans and voted in favour of Trinitarianism, which suddenly made Jesus part of the Father and the Holy Spirit. This was a whole new twist to the New Testament and the H oly Trinity was born. Another outcome of the council was an agreement by the bishops of all the Churches, to celebrate Easter on the same day. Is that not a little strange?

These were the wild and wonderful early days of Christianity, when most of its foundations were laid. The editing of the Bible's New Testament began to take shape, but it would take another 800 years before the final version was decided upon. This long process is filled with controversy because many books were omitted while others were amended before they were included. It was during this period that one of the first recorded references to the Catholic Church emerged. This Catholic denomination of Christianity continued to expand into what it has become today. The largest and most powerful wing of the Christian Church.

Food for thought it certainly is. Who were all those angels milling around? Who were the other gods? Where was the other realm with immortal beings? And who was Jesus, that he deserved such constant angelic protection? Once again we find that scientific discoveries seem to fly in the face of mainstream religion and rather support the alternative 'truth' about our history.

Michael Tellinger
20 April 2006.

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Old 01-10-2009, 02:16 AM   #23
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Yeah this appears to be very true and i'm sorry for everything that's happened to you and is happeneng to thousands of others.It's like a jigsaw and the pieces are the replacement of humanity with replicants and the arrival of the visitors through stargates on the whim of when they have enough replicants to 'move into' as an ongoing procedure-most of the other info. is understood as terraforming for a N.W.Alien.O.,eradicating the human populace in a subtle yet thorough manner and leave the planet intacto.If there was a violent wipe out such as an invasion as hollywood advertises in "Independnce day" and similar films then there wouldn't necessarily be a guarantee of erasing who they need to erase-this is an inteligent ,efficient and very dark manifesto underway that can be somewhat selective in it's preference of who to enslave and who to erase through genetics,atmospheric seeding,HAARP etcetera.
Light always prevails and there is a choice-the dark is here to indirectly help us to chose the way to love and light.Help others to see.There are good guys out there also who wish for us to see through these veils of deceit and lies-only humanity itself can do this-it's a difficult task this one as most tend to go for the juicy carrot of materialism as wielded by those you have mentioned.
Cities are indeed prisons in their own right and they propogate materialistic behaviour and turn people away from their natural, loving inheritance of agriculture and spiriuality-"The human zoo" to quote Desmond Morris.
Thankyou for your post and information.
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Old 01-10-2009, 06:42 PM   #24
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People are starting to see it all over the place and the one thing these buggers do all the time is that they give credance to my case with all there debunking and finger pointing and saying i am delusional, keep it up people notice, they notice people going out of there way to discredit, look at all the discrediting on youtube look at alll the comments discrediting the truth, from the Kennedy assassination to UFOs to Fema Camps all of it look at all the discrediting everywhere and why?

Answer: They do not want you to know there here and wipeing us out but you will find out, you will find out one way or another that everything I have posted is the truth.

Now on an older question, this was brought to my attention in regards to "If they murdered your family, then where are the graves, death notices, proof" the way the con would work and regardless of how it sounds its how I found out about this alien agenda.

"they would kill and replace the entire extended family 500 to 2000 people at a time, build the families equity to a billion, put in there bogus case at Dept. of Immigration, cases based on bogus video evidence, I N S would then seize the properties, which they can do if proved there was fraud involved, then the Extra Terrestrials "relacements" would move into non-existance and the NSA would erase 1000s of people and make it look as though they were never here, seal the cases under NSA status "can not be investigated by any one" then they would liquidate all assets and there would be no bodies. Leaving no trace that the family was ever here. These aliens are sadistic, they enjoy our pain, and they love to con us. They get a high out of it.

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Old 01-10-2009, 12:24 PM   #25
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What we are witnessing is a con. Just how deep and how far back does it go?

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There are in fact, many con games going on simultaneously.

Here you are, the homeless person, hailing from Joey's Fish Market on the wharf in San Fransisco, having been rendered without a family and a home by sinister aliens, only able to spend 20-30 minutes on the internet in a library, suddenly having been rescued to a warmer place and displaying some signs of real scholarship! That was quick, not bad at all!

But no, most of us are not even so gullible that we place our trust in any 'gospel'. We use our inner lens, and surmise the truth from the pickings.

At the age of 5, not able to read any gospel, I said to grown-ups who were trembling with the fear of hell and eternal damnation : ' But God is not like that!!!'

That is the true gospel and it can be heard by listening to the still little voice within.

We were not left, abandoned, bereft of the means of connecting the dots that lead to the realm of spirit and consciousness.
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