Bill Ryan's Post on project Avalon chat

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Guidelines are great tools in reaching Goals..

May i suggest , a suggestion box type thread?

[Karen]

Originally Posted by Anchor

Glad you bought that up. As a suggestion, you could seek volunteers for a steering group to help with a balanced set of new guidelines. Just an idea for you to knock around. If there was one I would happily consider signing up and contribute when my life allows me to do so. A..

Avalon 2.0 Forum - Member Suggestion Box
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Complaints/Rants
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[seeingterra]

Can someone from the chat administration please post Kerry's transcript as well?

Thanks

[kriya]

Life is so dramatic......................I LOVE PROJECT CAMELOT..........................

As a teacher I spent the whole of the 2008 summer holidays watching project camelot videos. I was in shock for three days after viewing the Dan buresh ones.

I hope this can be resolved.

Love,

Kriya

Originally Posted by kriya

... watching project camelot videos. I was in shock for three days after viewing the Dan buresh ones.

[listen2shim]

kriya:
I was in shock for three days after viewing the Dan buresh ones.
I hope this can be resolved.

@ kriya
Finally someone mentioned this piece of crap offered by Dan Buresh at the Zurich Conference…
And you just have seen part of it as most parts had been cutted out...
It should have alarmed everybody right at the first evening of the conference as this guy - acting as a whistleblower and Healer - gave statements like "Al Gore is a great man..." or - beeing asked about the swine flue scam then saying how important the vaccines are -showing he had now clue at all whats going on on this planet...

Interesting to note that his remote handler(s) could'nt handle the situation anymore when the crowd started to complain louder and louder about the Bul**hit he was talking about and quickly switched him into 'victim-mode' trying to get at least some symphaty from the first 5 rows of the 300+ audience.

When you saw Buresh on the street he just was a shadow of himself. Shoulders shrunken, look down, face ashy. But as soon he was entering the stage he acted like an ego-driven Know-it-all-I'm-here-to-help'-guy. The experienced eye even could 'see' the 'string of the puppetiers' who tryed to re-establish a burned out puppet of the PowerThatBe to an interested audience as a 'Whistleblower'...

I've seen this kind of remote handling thirteen years ago when I organized and moderated a workshop tour for a guy named Adrain who claimed to be an Plajadian 'Walk-IN' in Switzerland, Germany and Austria.

The same procedure there: instead of incuring censure he quickly was turned into the 'shut-up-I'm-the-teacher'-soldier mood or when that didnt help then into the 'poor-me_I'm-just-the-messenger' little guy.

Anyway. I hope Bill will take this challenge as a chance to think over it how he in the future might be able to strengthen his ties to his own intuition and more carfully select people worth to be interviewed and/or given the chance to sit on a panel with big-shots who really have something to say...

Swiss audience is very open for uncommon views and lecturers but will turn their back if too many mistakes are becomming visible.

So, for example: Dr. Brian Leary who should have talked about free energy in his workshop spended more time in promoting his new project in Ecuador than giving the audience substantiated information regarding the topic. Thats the way Bill might loose more credibility than having a "Marital row" with Kerry...

All the best for both of you, Bill and Kerry - you Bill did the right thing - with Kerry I don't know but history will show...

Adrain alias Manny Escandon: [http://www.padrak.com/ufo/WINTERS_9.html]

[NancyV]

I'm very happy and positive about Bill and Kerry each going their own way. Now Kerry can do and say whatever she wants to without anyone holding her back. Bill can now do the interviews that he chooses to do and since I love his interview style it will be wonderful to have him do the full interviews without a partner. I don't think he needs a full partner as I feel that he should be in full control of what he wants to do.

In his interview with Freedom Central Zurich where he talks about his views similar to David Ickes that this life is a game and we're engaged in playing it, I could see that he was very aware of who we are and what we are doing here. I'm sure that Bill will have even more fun without a partner to have to deal with and I'm excited to see his upcoming work. Hopefully Kerry will also enjoy her life more without having to consider a partner in her choices for her future projects. All in all this is a GOOD evolution.

Bill, I LOVE YOU!!! Congratulations on being on your own now!!!

Nancy

[Carol]

I have never trusted channeled information even when I did it myself back in the late 70s. I would write it all down and then go back to see what happened and what didn't happen. Or look for what could be verified. Channeled information is like swiss cheese. Some of it may be spot on but a lot of channeled information in my personal opinion has holes in it.

What I find difficult with those who buy into the whole channeled information scenario (and this is after years of watching this all pay out and even meeting with JZKnight back in 1980's on several occassions) are the folks who take these channelings as gospel and lose their own individual objectivity. And this includes those who channel - where they can lose their objectivity and get caught up in their personal (inflated) ego.

However, the people who should write a book about these past years and their personal journey is Bill and Kerry - separately. Now that I would find fascinating. Volume One (Kerry) and Volume Two (Bill) ~ Volume Three the transcripts from the interviews.

[Aztar]

Originally Posted by Carol

I have never trusted channeled information even when I did it myself back in the late 70s. I would write it all down and then go back to see what happened and what didn't happen. Or look for what could be verified. Channeled information is like swiss cheese. Some of it may be spot on but a lot of channeled information in my personal opinion has holes in it.

What I find difficult with those who buy into the whole channeled information scenario (and this is after years of watching this all pay out and even meeting with JZKnight back in 1980's on several occassions) are the folks who take these channelings as gospel and lose their own individual objectivity. And this includes those who channel - where they can lose their objectivity and get caught up in their personal (inflated) ego.

However, the people who should write a book about these past years and their personal journey is Bill and Kerry - separately. Now that I would find fascinating. Volume One (Kerry) and Volume Two (Bill) ~ Volume Three the transcripts from the interviews.

Bills 1st chapter should be a stimulating read.

<Bill> I have drafted major statement called BLOWING THE WHISTLE ON PROJECT CAMELOT. I think we're at the stage now where PR and careful political statements won't heal anything - the only thing that works is the truth.

[omshanti]

well, I am not sad in the least.
In fact, I feel fortunate to have greater options with additional sites navigated (independently) by Kerry and Bill.
And "We the viewers", will continue to discern what rings true and to challenge set belief systems....

This situation of going separate ways seems to illumine how humans have a strong tendency to resist change...(ie those wanting PC to remain as it was with Kerry and Bill as a "team")

Is it not the requirement of "the times" we are in to embrace the unknown, to integrate our fears and to dance with uncertainty?
I admire ANYONE who has the courage to leap into new ventures whilst enduring (oft-times) the slurs and slingbolts from fellow human beings.

"Embrace change", I cry! (to myself as it happens)

And much love y'all

[onawah]

I find channeled information can be useful if I just look for what resonates with me and let go of the rest.
It's helpful just as a good mirror is helpful in that I have an opportunity to take note of what is important to me at any given moment and to ask myself why.
It may not be important in the next moment, but that is usually because I've had the opportunity to look at it and then let go of it to let the next step take place.
We can get the same mirroring effect from our friends, situations in life, etc. too, but it's usually more work.
But i find that selected channelers often are addressing the issues that are important to me at appropriate times, so it's an easy, timely and kind of fun way to get good feedback.
I also feel it might possibly be accelerating the rate of my progress.
There's no obligation to accept what doesn't resonate, which helps to streamline the learning process.
As with anything else, if it gets to be a crutch, then it's lost it's usefulness.

[Unified Serenity]

I have yahoo ravenmoon0802... if you want to contact me do so there. I saw this coming some time back and hope Bill can launch a new forum and info asap.

I still don't trust David Wilcock though.

US

[Phoenix]

I still don't trust David Wilcock though.

Absolutely agre with you on that, theres something just not right there.

[joe2288]

How do we know any of this is true and not just some member impersonating

bill because i know you can put up whatever name you want in that room.

I am not taking any of this seriously until Bill confirms it through his profile.

[Oliver]

Now, I believe Bill and Kerry should finally realize that Avalon is beyond their personalities. Whatever the reason for their split is, I hope they will still find a common language. But whatever the solution is, if they are in service to others, they must do everything for Avalon to continue it`s noble mission. It is best place on Internet because of it`s members, they are making it what it is.
Also, there will be always different attacks on Avalon, let us not be astonished by that. This or that way, PTB will continue to try to make a final split between B&K and destroy Avalon forever. They didn`t succeed with trolls, they didn`t succed with provocations...Stay cool and help owners to overcome this situation, whether this is an attack by TPTB or maybe some kind of ego-reactions...we are all humans. Just continue with rising up the vibrations.

Love&Respect

[Church]

Kerry finally just made a post to the forums, stating she relinquished control of Avalon over to Bill. It's now official. PTB or not, does not matter. Bill and Kerry are going separate ways.

[waitinginthewings]

I have just read Kerry's message to all of us. (that thread is closed, so cannot post there) & I feel a sadness that she will no longer be involved with Bill. I thought they were a great team, & am thankful for all their great work.

I wish you Kerry & Bill great success & safety on your new individual journeys. I guess all good things come to an end. One door closes & another one opens.

May you both be well & happy.

[burgundia]

Originally Posted by waitinginthewings

I wish you Kerry & Bill great success & safety on your new individual journeys. One door closes & another one opens.

May you both be well & happy.

good luck to both of you...

[mkspllmn]

I knew something was amiss lately and, quite frankly, I was wondering when Project Camelot was going to be infiltrated. I also kind of figured that Kerry would be the one that would be used for this purpose. I have followed Camelot for about 2 years now and it has had a profound impact on my life in ways that are difficult to explain. I am sure this is true for a lot of people. However, I could see early on that Kerry had a weakness that was destined to be exploited, that is an extreme desire for success (money and power).

A lot of good things have come out of Camelot with Bill and Kerry. Eyes have been opened and amazing stories have been told. Giant toes have been stepped on and it was only a matter of time before something had to be done.

Lately I have seen petty bickering and a lack of genuine investigation on the forum. Kerry and Bill fighting, Kerry and Greer fighting, Kerry and Burish fighting. Kerry promising interviews (McCollum) with teasers but not the actual interview. And in most cases poor Bill is left to pick up the pieces. Camelot has gained a lot of popularity in the last 2 years and I can see, in my minds eye, Kerry druling and panting wanting more and more. I dont think the purpose even matters to her anymore. But this is what usually happens to would-be stars in Hollywood, the ego gets filled to the max and then - boom - they explode and self destruct and a lot of other people go down with them. Now she is closing threads, removing videos, and colluding with the enemy in her rise to riches and glory only to find at the end of the day that she has been duped by her own mind.

Finally, I have seen the forum ruled by totalitarian moderators who, under the guise of "protecting" the site, have offended many supporters of the Camelot project and have cause more discord and chaos than any poster could ever do. Most of the best posters have seemed to have vanished. I believe this is part of the infiltration process.

Project Camelot, as it once was, is over. This is true of all the good things in life, so, in that regard, I suppose it could be considered a complement.

I will continue to monitor the forum as I have been and throw in my two cents on occasion if this post does'nt get me banned.

[ellie]

I could be wrong about this, but I do not agree MKS.... The mods are between a rock and a hard place sometimes, being castigated by some members and then they probably get into trouble as well by the ptb so to speak of the forum.

Sometimes I believe they are told what to do against their better judgement and I will stand by that.

Look and read carefully, very carefully through Bill's chat posts okay and then read very carefully what Kerry posted.

I asked Bill in the chat room what the bottom line was why Kerry pulled the plug on PA and he told me go and do your research. Well I have
Now, you want to know what's up........................as I said get a texta or something out read what Bill said then Kerry, then ponder it and you will come up with the underlying reason.

Nuff said.

[mkspllmn]

Originally Posted by ellie

Sometimes I believe they are told what to do against their better judgement and I will stand by that.

I think you could have a point there and that is why I said that it is part of the infiltration process.

[Karen]

Originally Posted by ellie

Sometimes I believe they are told what to do against their better judgement and I will stand by that.

Originally Posted by mkspllmn

I think you could have a point there and that is why I said that it is part of the infiltration process.

Not true.

[Ailith]

"Even if PTB turn Bill and Kerry against each others, even if they wipe out Camelot and Avalon, they will NEVER win. Nothing has been done in vain, nothing will be forgotten. We, the people, are much more aware than the slaves of the intelligence community, pathetic robots who spend their lives suppressing real information, splitting opposition and spreading disinformation. If they succeed in targeting someone, manipulating them to obedience, let´s forgive such a person because that person is a victim, not a traitor. Whatever happens I hold Bill and Kerry in highest regard. PTB; read this carefully: we, the people, will continue the fight! "...Light and Fight


Yep...well said...

Ditto Ditto Ditto

[Karen]

Originally Posted by ellie

The mods are between a rock and a hard place sometimes, being castigated by some members and then they probably get into trouble as well by the ptb so to speak of the forum.

The way this mod/forum organizer sees it the green part is true - doesn't much matter what we do - almost any action we take will be criticized by someone. There is absolutely no way to please all the people all the time - or even once. You have to stand in your integrity, be true to yourself, and not be blown around by public opinion. People are all over the spectrum and all over a spectrum of spectrums. Imagine even trying to get 6 mods agreeing what to do.

But as far as the part in red, some ptb ordering us around - I don't see it. Gosh sometimes I wish someone would help me decide what to do. Nope, it's just us in our own little mod chat room - a rag tag bunch of volunteers from all over the globe, in various time zones trying to p*ss off the lowest number of people.

[mkspllmn]

Originally Posted by Karen

People are all over the spectrum and all over a spectrum of spectrums. Imagine even trying to get 6 mods agreeing what to do.

But as far as the part in red, some ptb ordering us around - I don't see it.

Forums need moderators. There is no doubt about that.

Maybe the mod team just tried to do too much. There were several "purges" when the forum went free. Many good people were put off by this and never returned. Dont forget - if you ban one person, everyone is threatened by this. In most forums you hardly hear from the moderators and usually it is just a warning.

The ptb are extremely clever. Well meaning people are influenced without even knowing what happened. The only thing we have to go by sometimes is the end result.

My point is that Project Camelot was a prime target for the ptb and I would have been very surprised if what is happening now didnt happen. In fact I was thinking it was taking a little too long and was starting to think that maybe Camelot was put in place by the ptb. But now that I can see it crumbling piece by piece from the inside out and no one is sure exactly why, I know that it was for real and it demise is cleverly crafted.

I would have never been able to see this if it hadnt been for Project Camelot.