House Passes Mandatory National Service Bill

Antaletriangle · 03-19-2009, 07:54 PM

http://www.infowars.com/house-passes...-service-bill/
Thursday, March 19, 2009

The House passed a bill yesterday which includes disturbing language indicating young people will be forced to undertake mandatory national service programs as fears about President Barack Obama’s promised “civilian national security force” intensify.

The Generations Invigorating Volunteerism and Education Act, known as the GIVE Act, was passed yesterday by a 321-105 margin and now goes to the Senate.

Under section 6104 of the bill, entitled “Duties,” in subsection B6, the legislation states that a commission will be set up to investigate, “Whether a workable, fair, and reasonable mandatory service requirement for all able young people could be developed, and how such a requirement could be implemented in a manner that would strengthen the social fabric of the Nation and overcome civic challenges by bringing together people from diverse economic, ethnic, and educational backgrounds.”

Section 120 of the bill also discusses the “Youth Engagement Zone Program” and states that “service learning” will be “a mandatory part of the curriculum in all of the secondary schools served by the local educational agency.”

“The legislation, slated to cost $6 billion over five years, would create 175,000 “new service opportunities” under AmeriCorps, bringing the number of participants in the national volunteer program to 250,000. It would also create additional “corps” to expand the reach of volunteerism into new sectors, including a Clean Energy Corps, Education Corps, Healthy Futures Corps and Veterans Service Corps, and it expands the National Civilian Community Corps to focus on additional areas like disaster relief and energy conservation,” reports Fox News.

The Senate is also considering a similar piece of legislation known as the “Serve America Act,” which also includes language about “Youth Engagement Zones”.

A d v e r t i s e m e n t

Fears about Obama’s plans to create involuntary servitude were first stoked in July 2008, when Obama told a rally in Colorado Springs, “We cannot continue to rely on our military in order to achieve the national security objectives we’ve set. We’ve got to have a civilian national security force that is just as powerful, just as strong, just as well funded.”

Despite denials that Obama plans to institute a mandatory program of national service, his original change.gov website stated that Americans would be “required” to complete “50 hours of community service in middle school and high school and 100 hours of community service in college every year”. The text was only later changed to state that Americans would be “encouraged” to undertake such programs.

In addition, Obama’s Chief of Staff, Rahm Emanuel, publicly stated his intention to help create “universal civil defense training” in 2006.

“The bill’s opponents — and there are only a few in Congress — say it could cram ideology down the throats of young “volunteers,” many of whom could be forced into service since the bill creates a “Congressional Commission on Civic Service,” reports Fox.

“We contribute our time and money under no government coercion on a scale the rest of the world doesn’t emulate and probably can’t imagine,” said Luke Sheahan, contributing editor for the Family Security Foundation. “The idea that government should order its people to perform acts of charity is contrary to the idea of charity and it removes the responsibility for charity from the people to the government, destroying private initiative.”

Lee Cary of the conservative American Thinker warns that Obama’s agenda is to, “tap into the already active volunteerism of millions of Americans and recruit them to become cogs in a gigantic government machine grinding out his social re-engineering agenda.”

CFR luminary Gary Hart hit back at critics, claiming in a Huffington Post piece that, “Resistance to expanded public service programs can be expected from the ideologically sclerotic, those who occupy the negative ground between government as the problem and government as our enemy.”

The frightening prospect of Obama’s mandatory government servitude is covered in-depth in Alex Jones’ new documentary blockbuster, The Obama Deception. Subscribe to prison planet.tv now to watch the film in high-quality, watch it for free here or buy the DVD, make copies and spread the word.

Humble Janitor · 03-19-2009, 08:31 PM

Yes, because god forbid we teach people about service to others and not just service to self.

Leave it up to Conservative America to overreact when they're always complaining about the declining ranks of our military and the spoiled teenagers of today.

NancyV · 03-19-2009, 11:45 PM

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Originally Posted by Humble Janitor

Yes, because god forbid we teach people about service to others and not just service to self.

Leave it up to Conservative America to overreact when they're always complaining about the declining ranks of our military and the spoiled teenagers of today.

Forced "service to others" is not service, it's servitude.

If "Liberal America" thinks servitude is good then I want nothing to do with it. You seem to be hinting that liberalism is better than conservatism but perhaps you are just playing into the hands of the people who pit one party against the other, when in fact both parties are controlled by the same ultimate agenda. Accepting the illusion of thinking one side is better than the other is a trap and is ultimately counter-productive.

Nancy

alyscat · 03-20-2009, 12:00 AM

This sounds something like what happens in Israel, where everyone does some form of national service.
alys

Lorien · 03-20-2009, 12:23 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Humble Janitor

Yes, because god forbid we teach people about service to others and not just service to self.

Leave it up to Conservative America to overreact when they're always complaining about the declining ranks of our military and the spoiled teenagers of today.

Why is it Janitor that pretty much every time you post a reply it amounts to the fact that we should all just sit back and let our lives be controlled? That no matter what wrongs are forced upon us we should just let it happen and think about what we really want in life?

I agree that positive energy and thought can manifest in amazing ways, but the forces behind these nefarious acts far exceed the amount of positive energies that a select few can put out into the universe.

Sitting and doing nothing while we think positively will get us nowhere. We must use that positive energy to motivate ourselves and others to take action and create a better world for ourselves.

Humble Janitor · 03-20-2009, 12:47 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by NancyV

Forced "service to others" is not service, it's servitude.

If "Liberal America" thinks servitude is good then I want nothing to do with it. You seem to be hinting that liberalism is better than conservatism but perhaps you are just playing into the hands of the people who pit one party against the other, when in fact both parties are controlled by the same ultimate agenda. Accepting the illusion of thinking one side is better than the other is a trap and is ultimately counter-productive.

Nancy

I didn't say one was better than another. I'm questioning certain parts of society that get their hands all up in the air over things like this.

Don't make assumptions.

Humble Janitor · 03-20-2009, 12:49 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Lorien

Why is it Janitor that pretty much every time you post a reply it amounts to the fact that we should all just sit back and let our lives be controlled? That no matter what wrongs are forced upon us we should just let it happen and think about what we really want in life?

I agree that positive energy and thought can manifest in amazing ways, but the forces behind these nefarious acts far exceed the amount of positive energies that a select few can put out into the universe.

Sitting and doing nothing while we think positively will get us nowhere. We must use that positive energy to motivate ourselves and others to take action and create a better world for ourselves.

Making mountains out of molehills will get us nowhere either.

Plus, there is always conscientious objection and civil disobedience. I believe this law will not completely pass anyway.

Also, if you want to generalize my replies like that, then you are not actually reading them or you're reading too much into them.

I'm all for rational thought and relying on intuition.

I'm not for stirring up fear and running for the hills.

Even if this bill passes, they will not be able to enforce it well. It will end up as a joke like many other bills.

It will not matter. In a paradigm shift, useless junk like this goes nowhere.

NancyV · 03-20-2009, 05:27 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Humble Janitor

Yes, because god forbid we teach people about service to others and not just service to self.

Leave it up to Conservative America to overreact when they're always complaining about the declining ranks of our military and the spoiled teenagers of today.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Humble Janitor

I didn't say one was better than another. I'm questioning certain parts of society that get their hands all up in the air over things like this.

Don't make assumptions.

I make assumptions based on evidence of biases or prejudices shown in your posts and from feelings I get from your posts, and I WILL continue making assumptions or judgements.

Nancy

burgundia · 03-20-2009, 09:14 AM

To HJ: I get a feeling that you are so

grouchy.

03-19-2009, 07:54 PM	#1
Antaletriangle Avalon Senior Member Join Date: Sep 2008 Location: U.K. Posts: 3,380	House Passes Mandatory National Service Bill http://www.infowars.com/house-passes...-service-bill/ Thursday, March 19, 2009 The House passed a bill yesterday which includes disturbing language indicating young people will be forced to undertake mandatory national service programs as fears about President Barack Obama’s promised “civilian national security force” intensify. The Generations Invigorating Volunteerism and Education Act, known as the GIVE Act, was passed yesterday by a 321-105 margin and now goes to the Senate. Under section 6104 of the bill, entitled “Duties,” in subsection B6, the legislation states that a commission will be set up to investigate, “Whether a workable, fair, and reasonable mandatory service requirement for all able young people could be developed, and how such a requirement could be implemented in a manner that would strengthen the social fabric of the Nation and overcome civic challenges by bringing together people from diverse economic, ethnic, and educational backgrounds.” Section 120 of the bill also discusses the “Youth Engagement Zone Program” and states that “service learning” will be “a mandatory part of the curriculum in all of the secondary schools served by the local educational agency.” “The legislation, slated to cost $6 billion over five years, would create 175,000 “new service opportunities” under AmeriCorps, bringing the number of participants in the national volunteer program to 250,000. It would also create additional “corps” to expand the reach of volunteerism into new sectors, including a Clean Energy Corps, Education Corps, Healthy Futures Corps and Veterans Service Corps, and it expands the National Civilian Community Corps to focus on additional areas like disaster relief and energy conservation,” reports Fox News. The Senate is also considering a similar piece of legislation known as the “Serve America Act,” which also includes language about “Youth Engagement Zones”. A d v e r t i s e m e n t Fears about Obama’s plans to create involuntary servitude were first stoked in July 2008, when Obama told a rally in Colorado Springs, “We cannot continue to rely on our military in order to achieve the national security objectives we’ve set. We’ve got to have a civilian national security force that is just as powerful, just as strong, just as well funded.” Despite denials that Obama plans to institute a mandatory program of national service, his original change.gov website stated that Americans would be “required” to complete “50 hours of community service in middle school and high school and 100 hours of community service in college every year”. The text was only later changed to state that Americans would be “encouraged” to undertake such programs. In addition, Obama’s Chief of Staff, Rahm Emanuel, publicly stated his intention to help create “universal civil defense training” in 2006. “The bill’s opponents — and there are only a few in Congress — say it could cram ideology down the throats of young “volunteers,” many of whom could be forced into service since the bill creates a “Congressional Commission on Civic Service,” reports Fox. “We contribute our time and money under no government coercion on a scale the rest of the world doesn’t emulate and probably can’t imagine,” said Luke Sheahan, contributing editor for the Family Security Foundation. “The idea that government should order its people to perform acts of charity is contrary to the idea of charity and it removes the responsibility for charity from the people to the government, destroying private initiative.” Lee Cary of the conservative American Thinker warns that Obama’s agenda is to, “tap into the already active volunteerism of millions of Americans and recruit them to become cogs in a gigantic government machine grinding out his social re-engineering agenda.” CFR luminary Gary Hart hit back at critics, claiming in a Huffington Post piece that, “Resistance to expanded public service programs can be expected from the ideologically sclerotic, those who occupy the negative ground between government as the problem and government as our enemy.” The frightening prospect of Obama’s mandatory government servitude is covered in-depth in Alex Jones’ new documentary blockbuster, The Obama Deception. Subscribe to prison planet.tv now to watch the film in high-quality, watch it for free here or buy the DVD, make copies and spread the word.

03-19-2009, 08:31 PM	#2
Humble Janitor Avalon Senior Member Join Date: Sep 2008 Posts: 3,201	Re: House Passes Mandatory National Service Bill Yes, because god forbid we teach people about service to others and not just service to self. Leave it up to Conservative America to overreact when they're always complaining about the declining ranks of our military and the spoiled teenagers of today.

03-20-2009, 12:00 AM	#4
alyscat Avalon Senior Member Join Date: Sep 2008 Location: Washington state Posts: 743	Re: House Passes Mandatory National Service Bill This sounds something like what happens in Israel, where everyone does some form of national service. alys

03-20-2009, 09:14 AM	#9
burgundia Avalon Senior Member Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: Poland Posts: 3,442	Re: House Passes Mandatory National Service Bill To HJ: I get a feeling that you are so grouchy.