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Old 04-20-2009, 04:27 AM   #1
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Obama Passing New Law to Allow Searching of PC's, Laptops, and Media Devices

Russia Today Broadcast

Video (4:04): http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pnQXL...e=channel_page

This is a few weeks old, although I searched and don't see it posted anywhere on this forum. Just noticed it on Peter Schiff's Channel.

Source: Video posted 1 day ago on Peter Schiff's Channel at youtube: http://www.youtube.com/user/PeterSchiffChannel
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Old 04-20-2009, 12:55 PM   #2
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Since when can the president himself pass a law? Doesn't it have to go through Congress beforehand?
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Old 04-20-2009, 01:03 PM   #3
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I don't know how it works in the USA but over here in the UK people hold the misconception that laws can only be passed once they have been voted in via the House of Commons and approved by a vote in the House of Lords.

This is not true. Only a tiny fraction of the "laws" that govern this country go through parliament. Unfortunately I can't find the info to back it up at the moment- anyone out there who can expand on this please?
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Old 05-02-2009, 11:30 PM   #4
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"A Culture Of Surveillance"

by Chuck Baldwin

April 28, 2009

It is truly amazing how much news the American news media chooses to ignore. If one wants to discover what is actually going on in the world, he or she often has to go to the foreign press. This has again been the case with a story that every American should be extremely interested in, but which has been totally ignored by the American news media. I found this story in Russia Today.

According to RussiaToday.com, "The personal computer may soon be not-so-private, with the U.S. and some European nations working on laws allowing them access to search the content held on a person's hard drive.

"President Obama's administration is keeping unusually tight-lipped on the details, which is raising concerns among computer users and liberty activists."

The report also states, "In extreme secrecy from the public, the United States is hammering out an international copyright treaty with several other countries and the European Union. Under the Anti-Counterfeiting Trade Agreement (or ACTA), governments will get sweeping new powers to search and seize material thought to be in breach of copyright. But why all the secrecy?"

Russia Today quotes Richard Stallman, prominent American software freedom activist, as saying, "Democracy gets bypassed and they can do to us whatever they want. I can only guess that it's going to be nasty, because if it weren't going to be nasty, they wouldn't need to keep it a secret."

The report also said, "Up until now, the breach of copyright has been a civil matter. The Obama administration seems to now want to criminalize it."

The report continued saying, "Some say modern America is being overtaken by a culture of surveillance."

A culture of surveillance indeed. What began in earnest under former President George W. Bush is now sharply escalating under President Barack Obama.

According to Ecommerce Journal, President Obama and his Big Brother fellow travelers in Congress are seeking power to "cut the whole world off the Internet." The report says, "Senators John Rockefeller and Olympia Snowe proposed the Cybersecurity Act that would create the Office of the National Cybersecurity Advisor. Its powers are detailed in the The Cybersecurity Act of 2009.

"If the President so chooses, he can call a 'cybersecurity emergency' and shut down or limit any 'net traffic or a 'critical' network 'in the name of national security,' though the bill fails to provide concrete definitions on what is 'critical' or what constitutes an 'emergency.'"

Article continues: http://www.chuckbaldwinlive.com/c200..._20090428.html
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Old 05-02-2009, 11:37 PM   #5
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They only pass all these laws (in whatever manner or form or how is irrelevant) because we are a bunch of weak-kneed pushovers who have lost the will to hold them accountable.

There is a brilliant quote which goes thus "The governments should be afraid of their people, not the people afraid of their governments".

The question we need to ask is "Have we left it too late?"
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Old 05-02-2009, 11:42 PM   #6
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"A Culture Of Surveillance"

by Chuck Baldwin

April 28, 2009

It is truly amazing how much news the American news media chooses to ignore. If one wants to discover what is actually going on in the world, he or she often has to go to the foreign press. This has again been the case with a story that every American should be extremely interested in, but which has been totally ignored by the American news media. I found this story in Russia Today.

According to RussiaToday.com, "The personal computer may soon be not-so-private, with the U.S. and some European nations working on laws allowing them access to search the content held on a person's hard drive.

"President Obama's administration is keeping unusually tight-lipped on the details, which is raising concerns among computer users and liberty activists."

The report also states, "In extreme secrecy from the public, the United States is hammering out an international copyright treaty with several other countries and the European Union. Under the Anti-Counterfeiting Trade Agreement (or ACTA), governments will get sweeping new powers to search and seize material thought to be in breach of copyright. But why all the secrecy?"

Russia Today quotes Richard Stallman, prominent American software freedom activist, as saying, "Democracy gets bypassed and they can do to us whatever they want. I can only guess that it's going to be nasty, because if it weren't going to be nasty, they wouldn't need to keep it a secret."

The report also said, "Up until now, the breach of copyright has been a civil matter. The Obama administration seems to now want to criminalize it."

The report continued saying, "Some say modern America is being overtaken by a culture of surveillance."

A culture of surveillance indeed. What began in earnest under former President George W. Bush is now sharply escalating under President Barack Obama.

According to Ecommerce Journal, President Obama and his Big Brother fellow travelers in Congress are seeking power to "cut the whole world off the Internet." The report says, "Senators John Rockefeller and Olympia Snowe proposed the Cybersecurity Act that would create the Office of the National Cybersecurity Advisor. Its powers are detailed in the The Cybersecurity Act of 2009.

"If the President so chooses, he can call a 'cybersecurity emergency' and shut down or limit any 'net traffic or a 'critical' network 'in the name of national security,' though the bill fails to provide concrete definitions on what is 'critical' or what constitutes an 'emergency.'"

Article continues: http://www.chuckbaldwinlive.com/c200..._20090428.html
Those of you who voted for obama voted for change and you sure as hell are going to get it. You are changing from the dangerous village idiot to the very dangerous educated and manipulated "prince of peace". You are going to see change alright but you will not like what you see unless you do something about it.

Sorry to ruin your day, honest.
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Old 05-03-2009, 12:01 AM   #7
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I've read the propsed bill in it's entirety and it certainly is strange. The stuff that gave me the creeps was how they wanted to almost force this upon the youth and all the cash and prizes involved. Just odd.

Overall, if it wasn't presented by a Rockefeller and I could trust that these "protections" would be used wisely by trustworthy people, I might be ok with it. That being said, there are too many oddities within it and I can't trust my government as far as I can throw them so therefore it's a full on no go for me.
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Old 05-03-2009, 12:26 AM   #8
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Hmmm, Russia Today. Is this another Sorcha Faal piece that Chuck Baldwin is quoting?

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