In answer (partially) to those who ask why the obama bashing

[Zeddo]

http://rense.com/general86/pound.htm

Obama's 'Pound Of Flesh'
By Lyndon H. LaRouche Jr.

A telling bit of journalism by someone who knows what they are talking about.

[Humble Janitor]

Originally Posted by Zeddo

http://rense.com/general86/pound.htm

I still think that Jeff Rense is full of ****. Period.

I'm more optimistic in regards to Obama. I'm getting a little tired of the pessismism, especially when it's done purely for shock value (I'm looking at you Rense).

The reality of the matter (and where Rense and others are correct) is that Obama is another run-of-the-mill politician.

However, must we spend copious amounts of time trashing him and trying to steer him towards our own dark thoughts so that we may validate them?

I think David Wilcock has the right idea and from what I have learned in my time at Avalon/Camelot, is to put aside the negative thoughts and be more optimistic about life in general. It has been a life-changing experience.

I just wish more people saw it that way.

You're free to trash the man and I am also free to point out that you're wasting your time and visa-versa.

[Zeddo]

Rense did NOT write the frigging article.

[Humble Janitor]

Originally Posted by Zeddo

Rense did NOT write the frigging article.

It's on his site. It wouldn't be there if he didn't endorse it.

Lyndon LaRouche is considered to be a nutjob by the mainstream.

Again, if the M.O of some folks here is to direct venom at Obama, be my guest. Just don't try to make it as if Avalon/Camelot as a whole, are anti-Obama too.

[oldpaganfreak]

one thing to be said for sure is that the writer of the article has a very inflated impression of himself. this is verbose, self-congratulatory bafflegab.

[Zeddo]

Originally Posted by Humble Janitor

It's on his site. It wouldn't be there if he didn't endorse it.

Lyndon LaRouche is considered to be a nutjob by the mainstream.

Again, if the M.O of some folks here is to direct venom at Obama, be my guest. Just don't try to make it as if Avalon/Camelot as a whole, are anti-Obama too.

So, if I follow your logic, you obviously use an motor-vehicle, electricity etc right? You therefore endorse pollution. Right?

[Zeddo]

Originally Posted by oldpaganfreak

one thing to be said for sure is that the writer of the article has a very inflated impression of himself. this is verbose, self-congratulatory bafflegab.

Yeah, he'll be right at home here in avalon.

[Dantheman62]

Originally Posted by Zeddo

Yeah, he'll be right at home here in avalon.

To much coffee this morning Zeddo? Don't take comments so personal.
Lyndon LaRouche has a very shady past, to say the least, he's a conspiracy theorist, a self proclaimed genius, spent time in prison, and yes, a very inflated impression of himself.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lyndon_LaRouche

[Carol]

The issues I have with Obama is his fake Hawaii birth certificate and that he was born in South Africa. I heard his grandmother say so on a tape.

Next, his bail out of the bankers and trillions of dollars to the federal reserve with no oversight and his buying up big businesses like GM instead of allowing them to go thorugh bankruptcy. This is not the US I grew up in. Even the most nobel person can be turned with all of the power all of the time.

I wasn't impressed with McCain either and something similar may have happened with him as well. Given how apathetic these past newer generations are is more scary then what any politation can think up.

[Zeddo]

Originally Posted by Dantheman62

To much coffee this morning Zeddo? Don't take comments so personal.
Lyndon LaRouche has a very shady past, to say the least, he's a conspiracy theorist, a self proclaimed genius, spent time in prison, and yes, a very inflated impression of himself.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lyndon_LaRouche

I see you get your info on him from Wiki. The same source that regards Tesla as a kook. Hmmm, they really are the fountain of balanced opinion and truth aren't they, may as well link them with rense wouldn't you agree?

But now I am getting personal so I better shut up.

[Dantheman62]

Originally Posted by Zeddo

I see you get your info on him from Wiki. The same source that regards Tesla as a kook. Hmmm, they really are the fountain of balanced opinion and truth aren't they, may as well link them with rense wouldn't you agree?

But now I am getting personal so I better shut up.

I thought you might say that. I actually checked three sites and quickly scanned for dates and info to see if they matched.

http://www.sourcewatch.org/index.php...yndon_LaRouche

http://www.larouchepub.com/resume.html

And Wikipedia

[Humble Janitor]

Originally Posted by Carol

The issues I have with Obama is his fake Hawaii birth certificate and that he was born in South Africa. I heard his grandmother say so on a tape.

Next, his bail out of the bankers and trillions of dollars to the federal reserve with no oversight and his buying up big businesses like GM instead of allowing them to go thorugh bankruptcy. This is not the US I grew up in. Even the most nobel person can be turned with all of the power all of the time.

I wasn't impressed with McCain either and something similar may have happened with him as well. Given how apathetic these past newer generations are is more scary then what any politation can think up.

You know what's funny?

California has an Austrian native as its' Governor.

I don't see anyone else complaining about that.

But I see plenty of complaining about a supposed fake birth certificate.

Again, if it truly was a fake, don't you think the Supreme Court would actually do anything about it?

I'm more worried about things other than a fake certificate.

[Zeddo]

Originally Posted by Humble Janitor

You know what's funny?

Again, if it truly was a fake, don't you think the Supreme Court would actually do anything about it?

I'm more worried about things other than a fake certificate.

To answer the question I have in quotes.....to the best of my limited ability.
No, personally I do not think anything would be done about it, remember who these people are and what their agenda is. It does not serve their purpose to do anything about it, rather the opposite in fact.
Guess what, the only people that can do anything about it are the American people. There is another scenario and I have read this similar thought somewhere. The American citizens need to be so far up their president that he HAS to deliver on what he promised. They cannot give him room to move. He is locked in to a position that no sane man would want, so he needs the people to be behind him in order that he can motivate positive change. It will not come from within government. Unfirtunately, this means that people actually have to get off their backsides and do something so I for one will not be holding my breath for too long. We too are like our leaders, we serve the most convenient master.