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I have questions and 'Gaia Love' asked me to make a new thread so here goes.
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QUESTIONS FOR THE 'HEALERS' HERE (I have no criticism, only questions) 1. Can you go into a hospital and heal the sick? Do you? If not, how come? 2. It's been stated that: Quote:
3. What is your success rate? Is it verifiable? Can anyone here provide a doctor's independent verification of their healing abilities? Are their specific diseases you can cure and others you can't? Will you list them? 4. Someone said: Quote:
5. If you can heal, can you control nature in other ways also? In what ways and to what extent? Those are my questions for now. Please don't take this as 'criticism' or 'negativity'. They are honest questions which I would like to have answered. Being a 'healer' is a serious claim with serious implications. Anyone who makes this claim should be required to back it up with some verifiable proof and should welcome these questions. People who put their lives in your hands deserve to know. If (and I do mean IF) anyone here is NOT really a healer, then posing as one is a cruel fraud. So, in the spirit of full disclosure, will the 'healers' please check in here and put the rest of us at ease about their abilities? |
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We have chosen to remove our responses to 2 of your 5 questions...
after seeing how, you have treated NOT only us, but, other members who were lured here, to the title of the post "Questions for the 'Healers'" your attitude, in our opinion - to our responses/as, well, as others responses is, totally unexpectable - to us, and, as, you can see, the others, removed their comments too !!! Last edited by THE eXchanger; 12-22-2009 at 04:13 AM. |
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Perhaps the cause and core of disease is not found in the material, rather in the energy field, in the spiritual.
Sure you can't see it with your 5 senses, but does that mean it's not real? Ever look into quantum physics? What is matter made out of? Atoms. What are Atoms made out of? Virtually nothing. Pure energy. Everything is made out of Pure Energy, it's a scientific fact. E=MC2 right? Energy and Matter are the same thing, interchangeable. Matter is vibrating energy. Shift the energy, shift the matter. Change the matter, are you changing the underlying cause? Or are you just making a cosmetic improvement? Skepticism is reasonable, but discernment is much more valuable. Skeptics argued the earth was flat. Skeptics don't move society forward, they try and hold it back. If you ever want to be amazed and wowed by energy work, check out a Matrix Energetics conference sometime, I was blown away by what goes on there... you learn to work with energy and it's virtually impossible to argue with it after you go see it for yourself... http://www.matrixenergetics.com/ Everything is made out of energy, including US, and when we start to connect to that reality, we can move both science and religion forward in a way that is symbiotic rather than in this never ending war of who is right when both the purely material, and God in the sky approach are both dead ends... |
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We have chosen to remove our responses to 2 of your 5 questions...
after seeing how, you have treated NOT only us, but, other members who were lured here, to the title of the post "Questions for the 'Healers'" your attitude, in our opinion - to our responses/as, well, as others responses is, totally unexpectable - to us, and, as, you can see, the others, removed their comments too !!! Last edited by THE eXchanger; 12-22-2009 at 04:13 AM. |
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I have been a part of the healing process at various times for animals, people, and myself. I dont heal, I just allow myself to contribute my focussed intent to the problems that "I" decide to engage in. Quote:
Have people turned down offers of assistance or withheld permission - YES Have I ever turned down a face to face request in "real life" to help - NO. Have I ever ignored a general request for healing on a forum. I am afraid to admit, but yes I have. Quote:
Science as we know it today has no chance to engage meaningfully here. I know for example that I have a metaphysical component to my body that todays conventional medical science refuses to acknowledge - until that day of recognition comes it will not be possible to give you what you ask. Quote:
Is A440 a solfeggio frequency ? I thought the ancient scale was: 396, 417 528, 639, 741, 852 Hz. I dont see 440 there - In fact I didnt realise that it had any healing properties - perhaps an error? Quote:
Those are my questions for now. I dont - and I appreciate you starting the new thread. Quote:
There is no proof. You cant test it. All you can do is try your best and see what happens. Quote:
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We have chosen to remove our responses to 2 of your 5 questions...
after seeing how, you have treated NOT only us, but, other members who were lured here, to the title of the post "Questions for the 'Healers'" your attitude, in our opinion - to our responses/as, well, as others responses is, totally unexpectable - to us, and, as, you can see, the others, removed their comments too !!! Last edited by THE eXchanger; 12-22-2009 at 04:14 AM. Reason: the thread, is a lure - to assualt people who heal |
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Are you sure that 'healing is a physical act'?
Why are doctors not called healers? Is the current physical medical system designed to heal? Why is it that the solution for the majority of health problems is continued use of medications? Why is it that society is as unhealthy as ever? (while certainly we've made progress since the dark ages, it should be very clear that generally speaking people are far from 'healthy'). Is it possible that our own consciousness, our own energy, negative energy, creates our disease? Is it possible it's karmic? Returning energy? Is it possible that until we fix our own consciousness, we will continue to experience the return of our own energy being sent out as disease and suffering? Does the current medical industrial complex heal people? No, I do not believe it does. More often than not, one of their solutions leads to another problem. Take one drug, and you'll need another to deal with the side effects. They don't heal, very often they make you more sick! True healing will occur when the cause and core of the problem is addressed. The physical world we live in is truly an output of our own consciousness. Heal the consciousness, heal the body. Ignore the consciousness, remain sick in both soul and body. |
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@Anchor
Thank you for the sincere answers. I don't understand why 'healers' can't heal in a hospital. I will try to find you some info on the Himmler reference. I anxiously await more sincere responses like yours. |
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We have chosen to remove our responses to 2 of your 5 questions...
after seeing how, you have treated NOT only us, but, other members who were lured here, to the title of the post "Questions for the 'Healers'" your attitude, in our opinion - to our responses/as, well, as others responses is, totally unexpectable - to us, and, as, you can see, the others, removed their comments too !!! Last edited by THE eXchanger; 12-22-2009 at 04:14 AM. |
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Consider it is the other way around. Hospitals will not allow healers to heal in hospitals. How many doctors in hospitals right now are hired to try out techniques that involve energy healing, consciousness healing, or alternative techniques other than what the medical industrial complex approves of?
You might say, well that's because they don't work. However, I have personally meant many people who claim they were healed of diseases, including cancer, from alternative techniques. Is it possible the system is run by dark forces that do not want people to heal, rather they want to keep the people sick and dependent on their system so that humanity remains trapped in their own self created prison, the illusion of separation, the illusion that what our 5 senses tell us is all there is and we are stuck with it until we die? |
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If you are such an adept healer with so much education, and you cannot make any claims about your success (because the medical establishment/government wants to keep you down).... Why do you have an affiliate link to a second rate vitamin website with a multi-level marketing scheme in your signature? Are you not compensated enough for your 'healing' sessions? As a follow up question. I've noticed your signature change a lot over the past year or so. It almost always has one or more affiliate links to something. I assume you have been trying to find a program that will generate income from the readers here at Avalon. Is that a correct assumption? |
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We have chosen to remove our responses to 2 of your 5 questions...
after seeing how, you have treated NOT only us, but, other members who were lured here, to the title of the post "Questions for the 'Healers'" your attitude, in our opinion - to our responses/as, well, as others responses is, totally unexpectable - to us, and, as, you can see, the others, removed their comments too !!! Last edited by THE eXchanger; 12-22-2009 at 04:14 AM. |
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Scarab,
Have you not had the experience of healing another through energy, intention, or prayer? Would you like to experience this? There are many who could help you have this experience (through study) to see the results first hand (physically if you desire such an experience). There are many web sites, many testimonials, and a great deal of library knowledge available to EVERYONE who is seeking. Even here in the Avalon archives, at the tips of your fingers. Please research this and then come back with your personal discoveries. I suggest that an open door is more interesting then a closed one. I wish you the best in your journey and welcome your heart. Peace of Mind, Strength of Heart, Wormhole PS, I see also that you are digging for some truth, please speak plainly and enlighten us. What have you uncovered that you believe we should know and understand? |
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We have chosen to remove our responses to 2 of your 5 questions...
after seeing how, you have treated NOT only us, but, other members who were lured here, to the title of the post "Questions for the 'Healers'" your attitude, in our opinion - to our responses/as, well, as others responses is, totally unexpectable - to us, and, as, you can see, the others, removed their comments too !!! Last edited by THE eXchanger; 12-22-2009 at 04:14 AM. |
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We have chosen to remove our responses to 2 of your 5 questions...
after seeing how, you have treated NOT only us, but, other members who were lured here, to the title of the post "Questions for the 'Healers'" your attitude, in our opinion - to our responses/as, well, as others responses is, totally unexpectable - to us, and, as, you can see, the others, removed their comments too !!! Last edited by THE eXchanger; 12-22-2009 at 04:15 AM. |
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I see this is a conversation between two others that I have no prior knowledge of, I am respectfully nodding a hello to you both and bowing out of the discourse. I send you both (Scarab and Susan) love and hope that the civility or conversation in the future will find a higher understanding.
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We have chosen to remove our responses to 2 of your 5 questions...
after seeing how, you have treated NOT only us, but, other members who were lured here, to the title of the post "Questions for the 'Healers'" your attitude, in our opinion - to our responses/as, well, as others responses is, totally unexpectable - to us, and, as, you can see, the others, removed their comments too !!! Last edited by THE eXchanger; 12-22-2009 at 04:15 AM. |
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