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Old 12-21-2009, 09:35 PM   #1
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I have questions and 'Gaia Love' asked me to make a new thread so here goes.

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Criticism and or negative input is not conducive to healing and therefore not welcome on this thread.
If you have questions or critiques please message members directly or start a relevant thread.

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QUESTIONS FOR THE 'HEALERS' HERE
(I have no criticism, only questions)



1. Can you go into a hospital and heal the sick? Do you? If not, how come?


2. It's been stated that:
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I can only act when assured that the person so named has consented and will accept the healing offered.
Has anyone ever turned down a 'healing' request?


3. What is your success rate? Is it verifiable? Can anyone here provide a doctor's independent verification of their healing abilities? Are their specific diseases you can cure and others you can't? Will you list them?


4. Someone said:

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440 hz, Takes it away, clears the Rash, Hot skin....
Are you aware that Heinrich Himmler was the chief proponent of changing the concert pitch to A440? How does this relate to healing?


5. If you can heal, can you control nature in other ways also? In what ways and to what extent?






Those are my questions for now.

Please don't take this as 'criticism' or 'negativity'. They are honest questions which I would like to have answered. Being a 'healer' is a serious claim with serious implications. Anyone who makes this claim should be required to back it up with some verifiable proof and should welcome these questions.

People who put their lives in your hands deserve to know. If (and I do mean IF) anyone here is NOT really a healer, then posing as one is a cruel fraud.

So, in the spirit of full disclosure, will the 'healers' please check in here and put the rest of us at ease about their abilities?
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Old 12-21-2009, 11:16 PM   #2
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5. If you can heal, can you control nature in other ways also? In what ways and to what extent?
You would not believe me if I told you.
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Old 12-21-2009, 11:25 PM   #3
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You would not believe me if I told you.
likely he would NOT, although we know YOU CAN
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Old 12-21-2009, 11:26 PM   #4
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You would not believe me if I told you.
Please tell, Tone! Next time I see your work, I'll sing your praises.

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Old 12-21-2009, 11:27 PM   #5
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We have chosen to remove our responses to 2 of your 5 questions...
after seeing how, you have treated NOT only us, but, other members
who were lured here, to the title of the post "Questions for the 'Healers'"

your attitude, in our opinion - to our responses/as, well, as others responses
is, totally unexpectable - to us,
and, as, you can see, the others, removed their comments too !!!

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Old 12-21-2009, 11:29 PM   #6
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(are you trying to purposely, ask TRICK questions)
No. Are you trying to give trick answers?

(BTW - Himmler was succesful and it's still at A440)
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Old 12-21-2009, 11:32 PM   #7
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Perhaps the cause and core of disease is not found in the material, rather in the energy field, in the spiritual.

Sure you can't see it with your 5 senses, but does that mean it's not real?

Ever look into quantum physics? What is matter made out of? Atoms. What are Atoms made out of? Virtually nothing.

Pure energy.

Everything is made out of Pure Energy, it's a scientific fact. E=MC2 right? Energy and Matter are the same thing, interchangeable.

Matter is vibrating energy.

Shift the energy, shift the matter.

Change the matter, are you changing the underlying cause? Or are you just making a cosmetic improvement?

Skepticism is reasonable, but discernment is much more valuable. Skeptics argued the earth was flat. Skeptics don't move society forward, they try and hold it back.

If you ever want to be amazed and wowed by energy work, check out a Matrix Energetics conference sometime, I was blown away by what goes on there... you learn to work with energy and it's virtually impossible to argue with it after you go see it for yourself... http://www.matrixenergetics.com/

Everything is made out of energy, including US, and when we start to connect to that reality, we can move both science and religion forward in a way that is symbiotic rather than in this never ending war of who is right when both the purely material, and God in the sky approach are both dead ends...
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Old 12-21-2009, 11:36 PM   #8
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Perhaps the cause and core of disease is not found in the material, rather in the energy field, in the spiritual.

Sure you can't see it with your 5 senses, but does that mean it's not real?

Ever look into quantum physics? What is matter made out of? Atoms. What are Atoms made out of? Virtually nothing.

Pure energy.

Everything is made out of Pure Energy, it's a scientific fact. E=MC2 right? Energy and Matter are the same thing, interchangeable.

Matter is vibrating energy.

Shift the energy, shift the matter.

Change the matter, are you changing the underlying cause? Or are you just making a cosmetic improvement?

Skepticism is reasonable, but discernment is much more valuable. Skeptics argued the earth was flat. Skeptics don't move society forward, they try and hold it back.

If you ever want to be amazed and wowed by energy work, check out a Matrix Energetics conference sometime, I was blown away by what goes on there... you learn to work with energy and it's virtually impossible to argue with it after you go see it for yourself... http://www.matrixenergetics.com/

Everything is made out of energy, including US, and when we start to connect to that reality, we can move both science and religion forward in a way that is symbiotic rather than in this never ending war of who is right when both the purely material, and God in the sky approach are both dead ends...
I understand your theory. But healing is a physical act with physical consequences that should be physically verifiable.
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Old 12-21-2009, 11:44 PM   #9
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We have chosen to remove our responses to 2 of your 5 questions...
after seeing how, you have treated NOT only us, but, other members
who were lured here, to the title of the post "Questions for the 'Healers'"

your attitude, in our opinion - to our responses/as, well, as others responses
is, totally unexpectable - to us,
and, as, you can see, the others, removed their comments too !!!

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Old 12-21-2009, 11:44 PM   #10
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QUESTIONS FOR THE 'HEALERS' HERE
(I have no criticism, only questions)
Actually what you have are "loaded" questions, but they are easy to work around so I will try.


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1. Can you go into a hospital and heal the sick? Do you? If not, how come?
No. No. N/a.

I have been a part of the healing process at various times for animals, people, and myself. I dont heal, I just allow myself to contribute my focussed intent to the problems that "I" decide to engage in.


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2. It's been stated that: "I can only act when assured that the person so named has consented and will accept the healing offered"
I concur with that statement. There are principles of freewill at stake. Since we are all responsible for our acts, thoughts words and deeds - we are responsible for not infringing on anothers freewill.

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Has anyone ever turned down a 'healing' request?
Have people turned down offers of assistance or withheld permission - YES
Have I ever turned down a face to face request in "real life" to help - NO.
Have I ever ignored a general request for healing on a forum. I am afraid to admit, but yes I have.

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3. What is your success rate? Is it verifiable? Can anyone here provide a doctor's independent verification of their healing abilities? Are their specific diseases you can cure and others you can't? Will you list them?
The healer does not have a success rate. Often the healer or one contributing to a healing effort will never know the outcome. Healing, by intent is an unconditional act of love.

Science as we know it today has no chance to engage meaningfully here. I know for example that I have a metaphysical component to my body that todays conventional medical science refuses to acknowledge - until that day of recognition comes it will not be possible to give you what you ask.

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4. Someone said: "440 hz, Takes it away, clears the Rash, Hot skin.... "

Are you aware that Heinrich Himmler was the chief proponent of changing the concert pitch to A440? How does this relate to healing?
I was not. It would not surprise me that Heinrich Himmler had access to information that we dont. My original introduction to the Solfeggio was via a website known as AstroVera. There was no mention of that gem to my recollection. I would appreciate some references so that I can follow this up. I find music that uses Solfeggio frequencies is very soothing. I dont vouch for specific outcomes.

Is A440 a solfeggio frequency ?

I thought the ancient scale was: 396, 417 528, 639, 741, 852 Hz.

I dont see 440 there - In fact I didnt realise that it had any healing properties - perhaps an error?

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5. If you can heal, can you control nature in other ways also? In what ways and to what extent?
I have been involved in healing. It is a control of nature - and the answers are yes.

Those are my questions for now.

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Please don't take this as 'criticism' or 'negativity'.
I dont - and I appreciate you starting the new thread.

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They are honest questions which I would like to have answered. Being a 'healer' is a serious claim with serious implications. Anyone who makes this claim should be required to back it up with some verifiable proof and should welcome these questions.
I am a healer. Take it or leave it. The real problem is when people start making claims that they can get guaranteed results and raising false expectations.

There is no proof. You cant test it. All you can do is try your best and see what happens.

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People who put their lives in your hands deserve to know. If (and I do mean IF) anyone here is NOT really a healer, then posing as one is a cruel fraud.
We are all healers. You are too. The difference is you may not see it the way I do. When you comfort a hurt child you are healing. The spirit of love is moving through you and you are healing. No science, no promises, just love.

A..

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Old 12-21-2009, 11:45 PM   #11
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We have chosen to remove our responses to 2 of your 5 questions...
after seeing how, you have treated NOT only us, but, other members
who were lured here, to the title of the post "Questions for the 'Healers'"

your attitude, in our opinion - to our responses/as, well, as others responses
is, totally unexpectable - to us,
and, as, you can see, the others, removed their comments too !!!

Last edited by THE eXchanger; 12-22-2009 at 04:14 AM. Reason: the thread, is a lure - to assualt people who heal
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Old 12-21-2009, 11:49 PM   #12
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Are you sure that 'healing is a physical act'?

Why are doctors not called healers?

Is the current physical medical system designed to heal?

Why is it that the solution for the majority of health problems is continued use of medications?

Why is it that society is as unhealthy as ever? (while certainly we've made progress since the dark ages, it should be very clear that generally speaking people are far from 'healthy').

Is it possible that our own consciousness, our own energy, negative energy, creates our disease? Is it possible it's karmic? Returning energy?

Is it possible that until we fix our own consciousness, we will continue to experience the return of our own energy being sent out as disease and suffering?

Does the current medical industrial complex heal people? No, I do not believe it does. More often than not, one of their solutions leads to another problem. Take one drug, and you'll need another to deal with the side effects. They don't heal, very often they make you more sick!

True healing will occur when the cause and core of the problem is addressed. The physical world we live in is truly an output of our own consciousness.

Heal the consciousness, heal the body. Ignore the consciousness, remain sick in both soul and body.
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Old 12-21-2009, 11:50 PM   #13
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@Anchor

Thank you for the sincere answers.

I don't understand why 'healers' can't heal in a hospital.

I will try to find you some info on the Himmler reference.

I anxiously await more sincere responses like yours.
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Himmler-adopted a standard of a concert at A440
Yes. The question is WHY?
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Old 12-21-2009, 11:53 PM   #15
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We have chosen to remove our responses to 2 of your 5 questions...
after seeing how, you have treated NOT only us, but, other members
who were lured here, to the title of the post "Questions for the 'Healers'"

your attitude, in our opinion - to our responses/as, well, as others responses
is, totally unexpectable - to us,
and, as, you can see, the others, removed their comments too !!!

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Old 12-21-2009, 11:55 PM   #16
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I don't understand why 'healers' can't heal in a hospital.
Consider it is the other way around. Hospitals will not allow healers to heal in hospitals. How many doctors in hospitals right now are hired to try out techniques that involve energy healing, consciousness healing, or alternative techniques other than what the medical industrial complex approves of?

You might say, well that's because they don't work. However, I have personally meant many people who claim they were healed of diseases, including cancer, from alternative techniques.

Is it possible the system is run by dark forces that do not want people to heal, rather they want to keep the people sick and dependent on their system so that humanity remains trapped in their own self created prison, the illusion of separation, the illusion that what our 5 senses tell us is all there is and we are stuck with it until we die?
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Consider it is the other way around. Hospitals will not allow healers to heal in hospitals. How many doctors in hospitals right now are hired to try out techniques that involve energy healing, consciousness healing, or alternative techniques other than what the medical industrial complex approves of?

You might say, well that's because they don't work. However, I have personally meant many people who claim they were healed of diseases, including cancer, from alternative techniques.

Is it possible the system is run by dark forces that do not want people to heal, rather they want to keep the people sick and dependent on their system so that humanity remains trapped in their own self created prison, the illusion of separation, the illusion that what our 5 senses tell us is all there is and we are stuck with it until we die?
100%.
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Old 12-22-2009, 12:37 AM   #18
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i will have to count, how many courses, etc.,
that i have taken, once, there was over 22 of them
most at master/or teacher levels
(none from diploma mills)

~although in the work i do, i do NOT make claims
instead, i do 'the job' for as, long as it takes to accomplish it

~i am in the process of editing a lot of testimonals
(most, are outside, of what the law says, you can say)

~yes, some people did have medical proof

The first rule of healing is this: make NO claims

because in a 3D world, there are laws, that prevent you,
for doing so !!!

and, The second rule of healing is this:
it does NOT happen only in the 3D world
people are much more complicated,
than having just 3 tiers to them
What I don't understand here is this:

If you are such an adept healer with so much education, and you cannot make any claims about your success (because the medical establishment/government wants to keep you down)....

Why do you have an affiliate link to a second rate vitamin website with a multi-level marketing scheme in your signature? Are you not compensated enough for your 'healing' sessions?

As a follow up question.

I've noticed your signature change a lot over the past year or so. It almost always has one or more affiliate links to something. I assume you have been trying to find a program that will generate income from the readers here at Avalon. Is that a correct assumption?
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Old 12-22-2009, 12:38 AM   #19
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We have chosen to remove our responses to 2 of your 5 questions...
after seeing how, you have treated NOT only us, but, other members
who were lured here, to the title of the post "Questions for the 'Healers'"

your attitude, in our opinion - to our responses/as, well, as others responses
is, totally unexpectable - to us,
and, as, you can see, the others, removed their comments too !!!

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Old 12-22-2009, 01:52 AM   #20
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No. Are you trying to give trick answers?

(BTW - Himmler was succesful and it's still at A440)
I apologize. It was Joseph Goebbels, not Heinrich Himmler.
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Old 12-22-2009, 02:02 AM   #21
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Scarab,
Have you not had the experience of healing another through energy, intention, or prayer? Would you like to experience this? There are many who could help you have this experience (through study) to see the results first hand (physically if you desire such an experience). There are many web sites, many testimonials, and a great deal of library knowledge available to EVERYONE who is seeking. Even here in the Avalon archives, at the tips of your fingers. Please research this and then come back with your personal discoveries.

I suggest that an open door is more interesting then a closed one.

I wish you the best in your journey and welcome your heart.

Peace of Mind, Strength of Heart,
Wormhole

PS,
I see also that you are digging for some truth, please speak plainly and enlighten us. What have you uncovered that you believe we should know and understand?
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We have chosen to remove our responses to 2 of your 5 questions...
after seeing how, you have treated NOT only us, but, other members
who were lured here, to the title of the post "Questions for the 'Healers'"

your attitude, in our opinion - to our responses/as, well, as others responses
is, totally unexpectable - to us,
and, as, you can see, the others, removed their comments too !!!

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We have chosen to remove our responses to 2 of your 5 questions...
after seeing how, you have treated NOT only us, but, other members
who were lured here, to the title of the post "Questions for the 'Healers'"

your attitude, in our opinion - to our responses/as, well, as others responses
is, totally unexpectable - to us,
and, as, you can see, the others, removed their comments too !!!

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Old 12-22-2009, 02:21 AM   #24
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I see this is a conversation between two others that I have no prior knowledge of, I am respectfully nodding a hello to you both and bowing out of the discourse. I send you both (Scarab and Susan) love and hope that the civility or conversation in the future will find a higher understanding.

Peace be with you,
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We have chosen to remove our responses to 2 of your 5 questions...
after seeing how, you have treated NOT only us, but, other members
who were lured here, to the title of the post "Questions for the 'Healers'"

your attitude, in our opinion - to our responses/as, well, as others responses
is, totally unexpectable - to us,
and, as, you can see, the others, removed their comments too !!!

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