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Old 01-08-2010, 02:06 PM   #1
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Default Comet/ G1.9 giant planetary body coming in to solar system

A large planetary body has been seen coming in from the Oort Cloud, presently 60AU distance. Don't know if this is the planet X from the past, but its impact would be similar.
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Russia Prepares For Asteroid Strike As New Comet Nears Sun
Russian scientists are reporting today that our Sun’s worst Deep Solar Minimum in 100-years has been broken by a newly discovered comet currently plunging towards its surface that has increased this past months Sunspot Number to 15.7, the highest it has been in Solar Cycle 24 since March, 2008, and has caused a massive eruption of C-Class flares for the past 16 days.

Solar physicist David Hathaway of the NASA Marshall Space Flight Center had previously declared in 2008 about Solar Cycle 24 that it was “the blankest year of the space age”, a declaration he revised in 2009 when he stated “This is the quietest sun we’ve seen in almost a century”.

So powerful has this Deep Solar Minimum been during this cycle that scientists have reported a 50-year low in solar wind pressure, a 55-year low in solar radio emissions, and, most importantly, a 12-year low in solar “irradiance”; the sun’s brightness which has dropped by 0.02% at visible wavelengths and 6% at extreme UV wavelengths since the solar minimum of 1996.

The critical danger to our Earth with the dropping of our Sun’s brightness lies in its “irradiance” levels being long associated with periods of Global cooling, including the catastrophic period between the 16th and 19th centuries named the Little Ice Age, a fact which American scientists have been accused of hiding from the public so as to further advance their now discredited theories of Planetary warming.

But to the greatest danger facing our World it is not from the horrific effects a massive Global Cooling event would have upon us, warn Russian scientists, but rather it is from the rising potential of our Earth being struck by, or “electrically interacting” with, a comet emanating from the currently destabilizing Oort Cloud from which these ‘space missiles’ are being increasingly hurled into our Solar System.

One such “electrical interaction” between these Oort Cloud “space missiles” plunging into our inner Solar System towards the Sun is occurring now, and offering further evidence supporting these Russian scientists claims after its discovery this week by Australian amateur astronomer Alan Watson who found this ‘new comet’ while inspecting images obtained by NASA’s STEREO-A’s Hemispheric Imager. [Photo top left]

Important to note at this point are that Russian scientists stand adamantly opposed to their American counterparts over what constitutes a comet and defines their interactions in space. Where the American scientists state in their theories that comets are ‘dirty snowballs’ whose tails are formed by the ejection of an icy mass, Russian scientists ascribe to the theory of their being made of iron, and other such metals, and whose tails are formed by the electromagnetic interaction between them and the Sun. This is known as the Electric Comet Theory.

The comet currently plunging into the Sun whose arrival was ‘announced’ over a fortnight ago with the breaking of the Deep Solar Minimum and the mass ejection of solar flares supports the Russian scientist’s theories beyond all doubt, a fact, however, which the Americans will not acknowledge as their theories have never been designed for truth, but rather for the social engineering of their public to keep them as unaware as possible to what the future holds for our Earth.

And to what the American scientists fear above all else is their public becoming aware of the giant planetary body named G1.9 that is heading towards us and is now just 60 AU’s [1 AU=the distance from the Sun to Earth] from our Planet and growing in size.

Though not known to the American people about G1.9 is that since its discovery NASA has continued to maintain that it is the remnant of a supernova explosion that occurred about 140 years ago, an explanation deemed “absurd” by Russian scientists who point out, correctly, that for a supernova to have exploded in our own Solar System in the mid 1800’s it would have been not only visible to the entire Earth, it would have been extensively documented too.

Supporting these Russian scientists who state that G1.9 was never a supernova but either a new planet to our Solar System or a brown dwarf sun are their Spanish astrophysicist counterparts whose findings we can read:

“G1.9 was first identified as a “supernova remnant” in 1984 by Dave Green of the University of Cambridge and later studied in greater detail with NRAO’s Very Large Array radio telescope in 1985. Because it was unusually small for a supernova it was thought to be young — less than about 1000 years old.

But in 2007, X-ray observations made with NASA’s Chandra X-ray Observatory revealed that the object was much larger than the last time it was observed! It had grown in size by 16%. Puzzled by this observation, the Very Large Array repeated its observations of 23 years ago and verified that it had increased in size considerably. Knowing that supernova do not expand this quickly, unless they have just exploded, they explained that G1.9 must be a “very young” supernova — perhaps not more than 150 years old. But no record of a visible supernova has been found corresponding to that historical period (about the time of the American Civil War).

Spanish astronomers have tracked this object with great interest because they were anticipating its appearance. Gravitational anomalies have been appearing in the Oort Cloud for some time, suggesting the perturbations were caused by a nearby object with considerable mass. The announcement that G1.9 had increased in size was no mystery to them. It is exactly what they would expect as the object moved closer to Earth.”

To the potential catastrophic danger posed to our Earth by G1.9 was evidenced in July, 2009, when the Planet Jupiter was hit by a large comet that entered its planetary zone unexpectedly, despite the efforts of astronomers to track these dangerous objects. Russian and Spanish astronomers contend that the comet that struck Jupiter was perturbed by the trajectory of G1.9, which until now, was not recognized and accounted for.

Though the Americans contend, also, that G1.9 has reached its closest approach to Earth in its orbit, Russian scientists couldn’t disagree more and point to the fact that NASA has so ‘continually failed’ in their explanations for this giant, and growing, “as yet unknown” space object as to have lost all credibility in any discussion of it.

And so alarmed have these Russian scientists become that this past week that Anatoly Perminov, head of Russia’s space agency, told Voice of Russia radio that they were ‘gearing up’ to protect our Earth from these ‘space missiles’, including the Apophis asteroid many believe could strike our Planet in the 2030’s.

In the reporting of these events it is also important to note that the ancient peoples of our Earth spoke many times about a G1.9 type object in our solar system (Marduk, Nibiru, Planet X) and warned that when it approached our inner Solar System chaos and catastrophe always ensued.
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Old 01-09-2010, 02:32 AM   #2
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Here's another cross reference article on the brown dwarf information. It seems to be true:

http://www.abovetopsecret.com/forum/thread525353/pg1

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We have our Brown Dwarf, interacting with and Bombarding asteroids of Oort against Pluto and Jupiter


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This article translated from Spanish is breaking news from Australia.

What NASA is not telling us but the Starviewer Team is

Though not exactly breaking news as it appears to originate from Mysteries of the Astrophysics dated the 27th of August. you will have to excuse the babelfish translation. But it is good enough to let you know what has been found.

I could go into a big speel about this but here are a few short quotes.

They begin with the unusual orbit of Comet Russell

IMPORTANT NOTE TO 7 OF AUGUST: WE HAVE DETECTED ERRORS IN THE WORKSHEET NIII. THE CALCULATION OF THE RUSSELL ORBIT IS NOT CORRECT. THE RETROGRADE ORBIT MUST TO THE POSITION DE THE EARTH INDEED. WE VERIFIED IT YESTERDAY. ETAMOS PREPARING AN OFFICIAL NOTICE WITH THE NEW DATA. HOWEVER, THE WORKSHEET CONTINUES BEING VALID LIKE SIMULATION OF DISTURBANCE OORT-KUIPER AND POSSIBLE SCENES.


For two weeks, Pluto has undergone the impact, heating and disturbance of a new celestial body too next to its orbit. The reason: A Brown Dwarf as large as 1.9Mj than is positioned right in “Sagitario”, and that at the moment is disturbing the Pluto orbit. But not only the one of Pluto, also, she is disturbing the orbit of Jupiter, and the rest of planets of the Solar System. In fact, the Sun, has emitted CMEs during the last weeks that have brought about a displacement of our geomagnetic axis exactly in 19º, as well as an increase of the seismicity of 1.33 MW with respect to the average seismicity of year 2008, reason why “literally” the binary theory “of our Solar System” is confirmed. Something comes near, and clearly, the tip of the cloud of Oort in the zone of Sagitario, is caused by a Brown Dwarf, who in addition, can visualize in the WorldWideTelescope, (WWT), just, drawing up the Pluto orbit.


These Spanish scientists do not seem to be kidding. They continue,

If it is observed at great length, has two satellites, that can carefully be observed. This would explain the disturbances undergone by the cloud of Oort during last the three months, and by all means, the alterations that the sun is undergoing in the cycles and cosmic ray emissions. Clearly, the stellar attraction between both stars, gravitationally contracts the orbits of the rest of planets, and clearly, verify the theories of doctors Michael P. Aubry, Christopher T. Russell, and Margaret G. Kivelson as well as, the models proposed by the Dr. John. J. Matese, and Dr. John. B. Murray, and the observations realised by Doctors Geoffrey W. Marcy, and Horseradish tree. R. Oppenheimer. The model has been closed. Especially when day 17 of 2009 July, Basket affirms in a press note, That” the Asteroid belt can very have formed far from the sun “. The Basket tries to tell something to us of slanted form, but already it is an advance. There now, already it is a fact, We have our Brown Dwarf, interacting with Pluto and Bombardeando asteroids of Oort against Pluto and Jupiter. At the moment we can be calm, because the great outer planets protect to us against the asteroid impacts of Oort, but, do not prevent the gravitational contraction of 41% anticipated by Murray, Matese and Oppenhheimer.


They next attack NASA whom they accuse of hiding this information and ridiculing anyone trying to bring the truth of this matter out in the open. They name the object and even tell exactly from where it comes.

Why the NASA has waited for the 40 anniversary of mission APOLO, to tell part us of this? The information is dripping us. Something terrible, or perhaps no. The question is in the air. Why to duplicate scientific efforts on events that NASA already knew. For which NASA hopes 20 years to recognize that the Dr. Murray was right. Why to hope 20 years to corroborate the theories of doctors Michael P. Aubry, Christopher T. Russell, and Margaret G. Kivelson? And mainly… Why, just two days after the study deeper than it has realised the scientific community with pursuit in real time for the first time in history? . It is this tacit form to tell the truth us? The certain thing is that very little people will read east article. Perhaps only thousands of people will read this science, all will be pending of the 40 the very easy news of anniversary of the arrival of the man to the Moon, while a reduced group of scientists, we are trying to tell the world which today happens and the cause of it. Today, 20 of Julio of 2009, a Brown Dwarf of 1.9MJ is right intercepting the Pluto orbit literally. Its scientific denomination is: G1.9, and can be seen in WWT, Sagitario next to Pluto. Whoever, watches that it, and the one that does not want that it does not watch. The evidences are G1.9-Sagitarius there.


They detailed a brief form of the results of their investigations..
1º. - The G1.9+0.3 Object, is highly susceptible to be considered like a Body of T1.9 type, with an approximated mass of 1.9MJ, and to be located to an orbital distance that oscillates between 60UA and 66UA.

2º. - The residual heat disturbances in the phantom microwaves, reflect a temperature of 2,700 Degrees Kelvin, coming from the analyzed zone, circumstance that is explained by the methane presence. The mass analysis, in 3D, confirms, this circumstance, and additionally the image obtained by chandra, fits “exactly” in the data modeling observed.

3º. - In the infrared phantom, it can see clearly, that this blue color, corresponds with an object whose sphericity, it is demonstrated, and it shows methane, in its composition.

4º. - This Object T, comes accompanied, at least by other two orbital bodies (satellites), whose composition, mass and orbit, it is still controverted, although, both seem to be solid bodies. (Rocky).


Link to the source is
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I want to post also some material from the Original in a second post and leave a link as it has some pictures which do not seem to have come out in this australian article.

peace to you all

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Old 01-09-2010, 02:46 AM   #3
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Here is some video:

http://sohowww.nascom.nasa.gov/pickoftheweek/
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presently 60AU distance
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This puzzles me ... 1 AU is the distance between the sun and earth, so how can a satellite closer to the sun see a comet so close to the sun which should be at least 60 times further away ?

I just commented also in another thread on an article originating from pakalert. Most articles look like fear mongering ... Could this be the new Sorcha Faal ?
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Reader beware! The original message is from Sorcha Faal, our 'favourite' disinformation/fantasy 'news' site.

Doesn't mean none of what he/she 'reports' is untrue, just switch your 'bulldust' detector to Ultra High before reading.
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Someone mentioned it may be Sorcha, that's why I searched out the other independent reference to confirm the information. The first article talks about 2 objects is my understanding. One is close to the sun and that is the one that is imaged by the satellite. The other is the G 1.9 object, which is the one i'm more concerned about, because of its size; this one is not imaged by the satellite because it is at 60AU, which is only slightly further out than Pluto. I hope this clears up the confusion.
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Ok everyone remembers this crop circle. Whether man-made or not irrelevant. Just look at what it is telling us.

One day this formation appeared...depiction of 2012




Then a few days later it had changed. It showed an object coming into our solar system and causing the sun to double its size. Engulfed venus and mercury in the crop circle.




The end crop circle looked like this. So are we being warned?

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I don't know where to start concerning the rubbish posted in the article that was originally referred to. If you just google G1.9, you will find lots of references, and also pictures. It is clear that this is not a planet. Here are some of the things a real scientist, Mike Brown, (not some anonymous unspecified set of "Spanish Astronomers", or someone writing a bogus article about such), who has actually discovered planetoids in the outer Solar System has to say on his blog http://www.mikebrownsplanets.com/200...nd-of-fall.htm:

"There is *definitely* not anything 1.9 Jupiter masses out at 100 AU or we would have know a century ago!"

And regarding the article at viewzone.com/browndwarf.html:

"Wow; that web site does an amazing job of taking real science and making it crazy. The discovery is a *supernova remnant* not a planet. And it is nowhere near us (though it is moderately close to being in the same *direction* as Pluto). The actual scientific press release is here:
http://www.nasa.gov/mission_pages/chandra/news/08-062.html"

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I think the important question is if there is a large inbound body/ Comet that is coming into the solar system. What do you thing of the correlation from following info given by a military intelligence whistle blower on 2012/ global warming / Px / Nibiru:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ygimp...eature=related
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This link feels genuine, and it kinda sums up all of the fragments of information leaking out and it help explain the curious Denver Airport construction.

Sometimes you are being told the same information from different sources so often, that "something" about the information is true.
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Northern Sanctuary,

Sorry for the delay. I am very busy, and you did ask me to comment on a two hour video.

First off, my earlier reply to your initial post specifically said the claim by some that G1.9 was a large planetary body was bogus. I was not claiming there was absolutely no danger.

It is just that I am getting real tired of these supposed NIBIRU of the month sightings. People keep claiming (or asking) whether this or that is NIBIRU, or something really BIG and nasty that will hit us soon, or come close enough to cause a pole shift, or what not. Sorry, but in my opinion people making these claims are either clueless or just spreading fear. Don't buy into these scare stories.

I just don't understand this NIBIRU fixation, especially when an impact by an asteroid one mile in diameter or even less would make a total hash of civilization. And there is even some credible evidence that about 12900 years ago an asteriod/cometary impact or a number of them caused a catastrophe. See

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Younger_Dryas_event

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"The Cycle of Cosmic Catastrophes" by Richard Firestone, Allen West and Simon Warwick-Smith:

http://www.amazon.com/Cycle-Cosmic-C.../dp/1591430615

While they haven't proved their claim that the ultimate cause was a much earlier supernova, they have done their homework. They make a convincing case there was an impact (or series of impacts) at about that time. However, there is no scientific reason for assuming we are due for a serious impact soon.

Regarding the video you mentioned. The presenter (Sorry, don't recall his name) starts out making some accurate scientific statements. There is some evidence that the Thermohaline circulation http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Meridio...ng_circulation may be shutting down. I think he overstates things though. He claims it WILL shut down. I don’t think things are at all that certain. And even then he seems to think this is imminent, even though he says the exact time is unknown. Even though there is some cause for concern ,http://www.guardian.co.uk/environmen....climatechange , I think we are talking decades before it happens (if it does). However, IF it happens, the consequences would be severe. But this would not cause the DRAMATICALLY rising sea levels are he is talking about later.

There are at least a couple of aspects to what he is talking about. One is that he is getting testimony from (ex) naval officers that they have been warned about significantly higher sea levels occurring within a short span of time (was it 30 to 60 days?). I am not sure of the height of the change, but I seem to recall the change would be at least one hundred feet with possible damage to at least 500 feet. However, this does not jibe with “Wisconsin being gone” (not an exact quote, but my recollection), which would mean an even higher change. Retiring government officials were selecting retirement locations based on this information. The second part is that he had somehow concluded this would be due to a pole shift, even though he had not been told that, and used Velikovsky as an authority.

Now, using Velikovsky as an authority sets off MAJOR alarm bells with me. So much so that I am not sure what if anything I can trust about what he is saying (other than what I can verify independently). He seems to have bought into a major 2012 (or sooner) doomsday, end of the world scenario. It is not/no longer clear to me how much of what he said is based on what he was told, how accurate or CERTAIN what people had been told was, how much of what he was told depended on people’s own research to explain what they had been told, and how much he had concluded based on the research he had done to explain what he had been told.

I’m sorry, I will need to stop here. My wife is forcefully demanding I call it a night.

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Northern Sanctuary,

Sorry, if the criticism in my last message seemed aimed at you. It was not so intended, and also more generally tact has never been my strong suit. Now back to what I thought about the video.

I cannot argue with witness testimony, but I am unable to tell exactly where that testimony ends and where the presenter's own biases begin. I am guessing witnesses did not tell him that whatever was going to happen was due to a pole shift. He merely came up with that as an explanation for why there might/would be such massive inundation.

I would have to say that based on the SCIENTIFIC information I currently have, a physical (as opposed to magnetic) pole shift is not a credible scenario. You may have other reasons for believing one might happen, and I am sure Dan Burish would have something to say about this, but I won't get into that here. So let me engage in some rank SPECULATION about what might have gone on here.

I do not know if you have heard about 99942 Apophis http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/99942_Apophis . This asteroid was discovered in 2004, and has the distinction of having HAD the highest threat level of any asteroid (4 on the Torino scale http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Torino_Scale ). Now for well over a year, and maybe close to two, this asteroid had a significant assigned probability of impacting in 2029. Now suppose you are a high level government bureaucrat, and you hear about this – what to you do? Well you get some think tank to do a study and see what the risks are. Now, since the trajectory is known so poorly, you certainly don’t know where it would impact, but you do know that 70% of the surface of the earth is water, so what happens if it impacts in the ocean? Well you run some simulations and see how far inundations might travel inland if it happens to land in some inopportune spots. And Holy ****, Batman! – this is serious. And so you conclude that maybe you should not have all your government facilities near the ocean. Even if this asteroid turns out benign, the threat is ongoing although small, so you decide to relocate some of your facilities. And by the way, maybe you also tell some top officials/some of your buddies that they might not want to retire at that beachfront property, although you don’t tell them exactly why. Again, this whole scenario has been speculation. And as it turns out now, this asteroid is currently assigned a very small probability of impacting.

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Hi Wolfgang,

I see it as mainly a testimony and posted it up for each person's assessment. I know the global warming explanation is not correct. In any case the timeline for this to happen is very close.

In times of great change such as we are presently in, to take action based only on the scientific method (left brain function) will be inadequate and too slow; the challenge is to integrate with the intuitive side of your being. So each person is left to assess the credibility of the speaker in this case.

Here's a video on planet X that some believe to be valid:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EW4L5hoS5mI
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Hello All,

This exchange of perspectives remind me of that which the Soviet scientist are having with the US scientist. One believes and suggest openly greater concern for the evidence, and one does not. Do you know where that leaves you, or us? "Knowing nothing for certain", unless we are able to conduct the test ourselves.

I think wfranz put it best:
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I don’t think things are at all that certain
This by the way, applies to wfranz and his post. He as We all are only certain of what we think, feel, believe.

What we CAN do, is access whatever tools we have to identify physical proof/patterns, etc for ourselves. This includes tools such as SOHO, Stereo Behind, USGS, NOAA, etc(though some may be interferred with via NASA). Now, the last most important piece (in my opinion) that is more revealing than anything is if there are actual changes to the other planets, as proclaimed by Wilcock. If anyone could provide me links that will allow for access to this planetary/solar system data, that would be greatly appreciated. This will remove what is called Global Warming to Solar System Warming (if you will). This then opens up the following questions; "What is causing it?" Is it our sun?.....What's to come?

The Haiti incident rather triggered naturally, cosmically, or man-made, "has occurred", meaning something is afoot. The question is; "Is this it, or is there more to come?" Again, regardless of trigger point.

The more I can connect the dots with the physical proof I can verify my self and not outside of me sources, the more I can be "certain". The current Sun cycle and activity in itself is curious enough, then when we add supporting data such as an increase in earthquakes and intensity and such videos like this one from another thread http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8POHk...layer_embedded, you have to realistically ponder "What is going on?"

As I stated in my previous post,
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In a nutshell, if I may...Perhaps we should not discredit information that cannot be proven, unless we have the proof to discredit it.
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I thought there were NASA references related to solar system warming, and related to the SUN for a few years now. For example:
http://www.dakotavoice.com/2009/06/n...lanet-warming/

http://www.infowars.com/articles/sci...al_warming.htm

There is supporting evidence of Px in different ways, ultimately leading to its sighting:

Zetatalk says the following is real:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EW4L5hoS5mI

There was a proof of conspiracy to hide planet X by blocking the associated area in Google Earth Sky here:
http://gazbom.blogspot.com/2009/10/n...-proof-of.html
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I was curious to get an idea of how fast a comet can travel. The following site:

http://www.eaae-astro.org/eaae/newsl4/hb.htm

indicates one example of 200,000 km/hr. One AU=149.6 million km. Assuming a direct path into the solar system, this gives about 31 days or approximately a month per AU distance. The site:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=y_k9h...layer_embedded

gives a present distance of Px at around 10 AU, so this would mean about a year for it to reach the inner solar system, in the 2011 timeframe.

If it is around 50 AU or more as stated above, it will be many years, beyond 2012 to come in.
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