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Old 01-18-2009, 06:49 PM   #1
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INCREDIBLE INCREDIBLE INCREDIBLE (but real) DISCOVERY


This news is from Jonathan Gray -

www.beforeus.com

Could this be the greatest find of all time? What do you
think? My normal meticulous checking procedures have been
blocked in this case.


DISCOVERY 4 MILES DEEP?

The reported discovery was made in a 4-mile deep mine in
Russia.

(By comparison, in the USA ancient man-made items have
been discovered 2 miles deep.)

A miner came up with what looked like one of those fire
proof security boxes that people put their valuables in.

Just the fact that something like this could be found so
far down in the earth was shocking enough, but once the
x-rays were done and they finally decided to open it, the
shock was just beginning.

My informant (name protected) reports:

“Inside the box was a mirror, or at least it looked like
one. It was not glass though. It sounded and looked like
gold metal, but so smooth and shiny that it looked like a
gold mirror.

It was approximately 5 inches by 8 inches by ½ inch
thick. It had a gold edging around it, but no seam could
be detected.

“After x-rays of the ‘mirror’, it appeared to be hollow
but the inside of it troubled the minds of some, because
in the center was something that looked like a circuit
board.

“DON’T TELL THE PUBLIC”

“When they brought the box into our laboratory we knew
that this was not going out to the public. But now, after
this, we knew that just the few of us were going to know
what was going on from this point on.

“Never in our wildest imagination did we foresee what was
going to take place 10 years later.

“Never has any object gone under so many tests. This
‘mirror’ had everything known to us, done to it. And then
one day while one of the scientists was holding it in his
hand, something strange happened. It turned white and
black lines of what looked like a foreign language
appeared on it for just a second.

“He nearly dropped it, and yelled for everyone to look.
But as soon as it displayed the black words, it returned
to a gold mirror.

“Six times in the next 5 months this happened. And on the
7th time, we discovered that it happened at exactly the
same instant as another group of scientists were
performing experiments with Low Frequency in another
building.

BLACK LETTERS APPEAR

“When we took the ‘mirror’ to their building and they
turned on their testing equipment the ‘mirror’ turned
white and line by line, black letters appeared on the
‘mirror’.

“Photographs were taken of the writing and no one of the
top people of the field could tell us what language it
was. We had a problem. We didn’t want to tell anyone
where this strange language came from, but we had to get
outside help.

“We finally decided to use the military decoding people.
At least they would keep silent. They didn’t need to know
where the writing came from, in fact they didn’t even
know that it appeared on the ‘mirror’. All they saw was
the photograph of the writing. There seemed to be no end
to the writing. It just went on and on. Page after page.
And then one day it stopped and went back to the gold
‘mirror’.

“We wondered why it stopped, even though the Low
Frequency equipment was still going. It wasn’t until we
tried to duplicate the experiment a week later that we
discovered that when it came to stop, if we could touch a
certain spot on the side of the ‘mirror’ that it would
start with the writing all over again.

“Then the shock of all shocks. I was holding the ‘mirror’
in my hand and looking deeply into it and touched two
places on the back of it and the ‘mirror’ turned into a
picture in a gold frame.

ANCIENT PHOTO SHOTS

“It was a scenery picture, beautiful in color and
obviously taken in a dense vegetation area. But where?
Nothing looked familiar. What was this ‘mirror’?

“As others gathered around to look, I touched it again
and a different picture appeared and this was a picture
of a small stream, with people standing beside it. They
looked as modern as us, dressed in sophisticated
clothing, like anyone you meet on the street right here
in this country.

“But when was this picture taken? Who were these people?

“I guess that the pictures had something to do with the
writing. There were 15 pictures and they all appeared
to be of a certain family.

“Some of the pictures included modern type buildings and
vehicles I couldn’t explain, other than people were
riding in them.

“One showed a young man holding a globe, but nothing
looked familiar about the land mass. Could this be
pictures and a recording device from another planet?

“I thought, what we have here is a time capsule, but
from what time and from where?

“Photographs of the pictures were taken as well as the
whole writing sequence and for over 12 years now, every
expert we have at our disposal has been working on this
project. Don’t think for a moment that the things of
the world were top priority… this was top priority!

ANCIENT WRITING DE-CODED

“The de-coding people ran every word of the strange
language through their super computers and then it
happened. Things started to click. They started to make
some sense out of the words.

“And what came to be the translation would shock all
mankind… but it was never to be let out to the world. It
couldn’t be let out. The government wouldn’t allow it to
be let out.

“I could not get the photos of the pictures out, but I
did devise a way to scan and send to a private computer,
the translation of it.

“Now my life is in mortal danger. They do not know who
made a copy, but they know that one was made. That is why
I am giving it to you. They will soon put two and two
together and know it was from me. My life won’t be worth
a coin.

“The only way to keep them from killing everyone who has
this, is to publish it and get it into as many hands as
possible.

“Then all they will be able to do is claim it is a fraud
or some crack-pot story. They will disavow any knowledge
of any of us who worked on the project and will deny any
knowledge of the ‘Mirror Project 77’.

“If you can get this published, some will believe!”
That, Gabriel, is the end of his letter.

WHAT THE ANCIENT MESSAGE SAYS

Here are extracts I have made from what was translated:

“This is the 800th year… I Jubal, the son of Lamech… want
to leave this history to my children and all those who
follow me.

“I want to tell the other side of the story, the true
version, not the religious foolishness of my great,
great, great grandfather.

“From the very beginning there were some of us who knew
that the false teachings of Adam had to be stopped. They
were corrupting our children. Arguments were a daily
thing…. We just moved away from them….

ORIGINAL BODY GLOW

“I remember as a child that we all… had a glow about us…
Now it seems that we are not as glowing… they lost nearly
half their light.

“He told us, because of the change, great fear came upon
them. Now it seems that we are not as glowing as the
other group, but this came on so gradually that no one
thought much about it….

“Another thing I have noticed is the diminishing of
‘quickness of the mind’. We seem not to be as sharp as we
were in the beginning. We have to think things out and
reason, whereas before we just seemed to know the answer
to whatever the problem was.

“The same with the ‘power of the mind’. We used to be
able to do many things with our minds, but have lost that
power for some reason, but we just invent a machine to do
the work, so it is no problem.

EARLY VEHICLES INVENTED

“We made vehicles to transport us, when we could not
transport ourselves with our minds anymore. We devoted
many years trying to restore our mental powers, but could
not, so invented things to make up the difference.

“We were growing day by day and our inventions were
glorious to behind. The sad thing is that the time came
when our children and grandchildren didn’t believe us
when we said that we used to have the power.

“Adam and his followers are constantly trying to get us
to return to the old ways. Why would we want to? He is
living in the past.

“Our technology and transportation is so great that we
are the marvel of the world. We have proven that we do
not need the old ways of Adam.

SPACE TRAVEL BEGINNING?

“In fact, the rumor is floating around that soon we will
be able to transport to the moon. We have gone to the
very corners of the earth. Why not the moon? The sky is
the limit for our people…

“When my family and I flew to Zan the other day. We
noticed that some of the lush foliage was gone from the
earth. I wonder what is causing that? With so many
changes in my life, I wonder what…”

There’s just some of that document.

Just think! If this is a genuine pre-Flood document
which recorded the contemporary technology while it was
still in existence – but was then buried deep by the
Great Disaster - then what else might await our
discovery?

Are you keeping up with the astonishing secrets of our
past?


Cheers to all!
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Old 01-18-2009, 07:13 PM   #2
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Hmm. All I have to say is that it's fascinating. Can't say for sure whether I believe it or not.
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Old 01-18-2009, 07:16 PM   #3
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A fabulous Ashatav, Is there more to it,will it continue sometime. Ancient Russia fascinates me,not the times of the Princes, or religion, but before that. Anastasia talks about it in the Ringing Cedars series of books. Such a rich mysterious culture.

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Old 01-18-2009, 07:45 PM   #4
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A fabulous Ashatav, Is there more to it,will it continue sometime. Ancient Russia fascinates me,not the times of the Princes, or religion, but before that. Anastasia talks about it in the Ringing Cedars series of books. Such a rich mysterious culture.
Hi Carmen - I reminds me of Myths of the Cedar of Lebanon. I don't know if it relates to what you've read about Ringing Cedars in Russia, but just in case - this article is interesting and includes:

"The Cedar of Lebanon also figures in an early episode of the oldest of religious tales, The Epic of Gilgamesh. Gilgamesh encountered a horrifying monster amidst the cedars. He was protected from this beast by the Sun-god Shamash (for whom the biblical Samson is named) & by his mother's amulet (as Samson's power resulted mainly from his mother's instruction). When Gilgamesh destroyed the monster he believed himself ready to become the husband of the Great Mother, Ishtar Inanna, though Ishtar didn't quite agree with that; & he meets thereafter a Wine-goddess. Parallels to Samson & Delilah are imbedded in this, if Delilah is regarded as a reflex of Inanna or of the Wine-giving goddess Gilgamesh encounters."
http://www.paghat.com/libanimyths.html

And this: Siberian cedar resin in a package


http://www.ringingcedarsofrussia.org...-2008-sep.html
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Old 01-18-2009, 08:31 PM   #5
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A fabulous Ashatav, Is there more to it,will it continue sometime. Ancient Russia fascinates me,not the times of the Princes, or religion, but before that. Anastasia talks about it in the Ringing Cedars series of books. Such a rich mysterious culture.

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in the series Anastasia talks about the quickness of mind and how important it is....
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All I can say is the web site seems like those where they're promosing you soooo much for so little.... bucks! Just the format of the web site doesn't give it any credibility; in my opinion anybody can say anything, but where are the pictures? Any time you read something like: J.P. Campbell or T.E. Smith, etc., you know it's fake.
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This information resonates with stuff I already know. I don't need pictures all the time, my imagination and my inner knowing are my guidance on what I am reading on this thread, but I do appreciate the need for dicernment in our investigations.

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Old 01-19-2009, 12:20 AM   #8
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Hello all
I read some thing of the cedars of lebanon in Otis Carrs little book called Dimensions of mystery.interesting story bout the devil,the pyramids and the shpinx.I wonder where he heard it .It said, god sent angels to build the pyramids and the shpinx in three days,as some kind of devils alarm clock. It woke the devil with such a shock,his tail got stuck in the rocks and in order to flee he had to leave a peice of his tail.Anyways,the angels used the devils tooth pick[cedar of lebanon] for establishing the the demensions of the pyramid.
I have no idea where he got his information,but it was an interesting read never the less.


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This information resonates with stuff I already know. I don't need pictures all the time, my imagination and my inner knowing are my guidance on what I am reading on this thread, but I do appreciate the need for dicernment in our investigations.

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Yeah. I think the website is kind of sensationalist but if I can see pictures, it will only help their case and convince people. The problem is, pictures can be faked along with information.
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Old 01-19-2009, 02:38 AM   #10
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Very interesting Ashatav. Could very well be true. Personally, I have never believed the accepted history of this planet according to the scientists and professors that make up the information, from when I was very young and asking questions, it sounded like a silly story with far too many gaps and not enough evidence. It is just not enough information and the accepted theory ignores so much evidence that is out there to be discovered.

I had a look at Jonathan Gray's website and it has me very interested. I just wish that much more would be done to discover more about the earth's past and that the things that he mentions would be looked into and studied in detail to get more information that would be very useful for mankind.

Basically there was a very sophisticated human race before the great flood which many civilizations mention, including the Noah's Ark one and they seem to correspond in the time period, as being the same flood. This flood which was caused by astronomical events, covered most of the earth, with survivors that sought refuge in high mountains only. So much land and cities were left under the sea after the flood water had dissipated, with sea levels having risen substantially. So it is possible to find some remains very deep under ground and on the ocean floor and beneath.

I was watching a tv program on Discovery Channel tonight in fact, presented by the great Graham Hancock, about underwater cities. He was in India and was reporting and showing the findings of lost cities under the sea where there used to be land before the great flood. It was fascinating and he was saying almost the same things as Janathan Gray was. Like the ancient civilization that lived before the great flood was more advanced than later civilizations in the same area, which is against proven theory. The ancient city under water was recreated in a picture from data they gathered with a computer and it looked incredible. The actual show was made back in 2001, so there should be much more info available on this Indian finding.

Here's a site with info on the Indian finding: http://www.spiritofmaat.com/announce/oldcity.htm
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It's still very fascinating information and the part about the mirror and words, I'd love to see how that would work. I strongly believe that we are not as advanced as prior civilizations and that most of our technology, though it seems advanced, is still very primitive compared to some of the things I've read on the site.
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Boy this is incredible and I'm a sucker and after going to his site, I had to buy his book................How truly incredible this is and I hope I can pass the book to all my grandchildren.

After hearing that they found a battery not too long ago, I shouldn't be so surprise. The mirror really fascinates me and I want to see more that this man has seen

I am starting to believe that all there is to know will never really be known in one lifetime.

I wonder about these people that get their life calling at such an early age and I admire their ambition to fullfill their dreams. At age 10 I was worried about who would win the next game of jacks. LOL

Thank you Thank you Astatav for sharing this with us
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This is a bit off topic but maybe someone can lead the way.
I heard a bout a mirror in Russia that was found that one can walk into, maybe like a stargate or looking glass.
I heard of this swiss institue Nathal, and one of their founders supposedly went to Russia and taught them how to use it, as many who had gone in and come back had lost their mind.

Nathal, is an institute that supposedly teaches how to synchronise the left and the right brain to 'draw conclusions from emotion not just intellect'.

http://www.nathal.de/eng/found_e.htm

Anybody hear about this?
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This is a bit off topic but maybe someone can lead the way.
I heard a bout a mirror in Russia that was found that one can walk into, maybe like a stargate or looking glass.
I heard of this swiss institue Nathal, and one of their founders supposedly went to Russia and taught them how to use it, as many who had gone in and come back had lost their mind.

Nathal, is an institute that supposedly teaches how to synchronise the left and the right brain to 'draw conclusions from emotion not just intellect'.

http://www.nathal.de/eng/found_e.htm

Anybody hear about this?
Yes Czymra you beat me to it, as i read the story i felt the mirror may be some back engineered technology like the Dan Buriche looking glass theory.
I have no doubt in my mind that ancient civilisations had all this technology and that today all this is lost to us, it's so sad to think for millions of years this scenario has been going over and over and yet we are still lost in the mists of time, still stumbling on regardless of our ancient knowledge, it's the powers that be today who have control over this planet who keep this knowledge from us, this is rightfully ours and if and when the time is right i feel this information will be given back to us, there is a higher hand in command and soon everything will be revealed.
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Sounds like a chain letter to me

Forward this to everyone you know in the next five mins and something wonderful will happen, if you don't a turtle will come out of your bum
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Sounds like a chain letter to me

Forward this to everyone you know in the next five mins and something wonderful will happen, if you don't a turtle will come out of your bum
You keep on making my days. I'm waiting for that turtle!
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. . . if you don't a turtle will come out of your bum
So that's why our house is swarming with turtles. I thought the pain in my bum was caused by hemorhoids!
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From the newsletter of Jonathan Grey.

"I must apologise to you.

My newsletter two days ago included this sentence: "The reported discovery was made in a 4-mile deep mine in Russia." That was careless of me. What I should have said was that"

The reported discovery was made 4 miles from the surfacein a mine in Russia." That is, 4 miles from the entry point.

To repeat the difference, the location of the find was not 4 miles vertically down, but rather, as was their practice,the miners descended down the deep mine shaft, and then travelled horizontally inside the mine drive to their work location which was 4 miles from the entrance.


Our integrity is always more important than anyone's ego. So you can rest assured, if ever we become aware that there is a factual mistake in any report, we will always try to correct it for you.

In 16 years this has been necessary only twice. As is our usual practice, we work hard to confirm everything which we publicise. In this case, as already noted, our investigation of this report is faced with a block beyond which we cannot continue. However, for what it is worth, you have now received the information that it is possible to share with you.

Thankyou for understanding.

Are you keeping up with the astonishing secrets of our past? "



Jonathan Grey! hahaha

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Hi does anyone know if there is an update on this ?
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Hi does anyone know if there is an update on this ?
When an update is ready I will post it!











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yeah.. that site looks scam-ish to me....give me $107 pops up as soon as u go to the page!!... good story but.. wonder how true it is...
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yeah.. that site looks scam-ish to me....give me $107 pops up as soon as u go to the page!!... good story but.. wonder how true it is...
Hahahaha, let say to you that mr. Jonathan Gray Phd. is an archeologyst author of more than 40 books. He has traveled around the world several times and his discoveries likely Everyone Must Watch! (amaaazing science discoveries, REALLY)

I have a lot of his books and a serious amount of his lectures in dvd and I can tell you that those resources Streach your mind in a way with scientific facts and investigations that you don't believe if you don't see the actual facts that are shown in his books.

He constantly is a guest in several talk shows (including Dr. Deagle's nutrimedical report -It's Podcast!- ).

The site is an Old one because Mr. gray actually is an old man now (but How he live his life! hahaha) and just don't care/know about the graphics and so on (well, I think!!). Actually he's working with several staffs of people in different projects.

www.beforeus.com

His top book --> "Dead Men's Secrets", 1000 off history records, artifacts, and other things that Prooves that the ancients have a Similar technology (in cases Better) than Us.

Good interview ---> HERE!

www.beyondthephysicalrealm.com ---> Here some good interviews to!

Cheers!

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