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NorthernSanctuary 01-18-2009 03:32 PM

Re: Questions about the Tall Aliens
 
Dakini,

From what you say, I feel you are associated with these beings before. I feel you may have been part of that ET race in a previous life, that you agreed to some mission, and they are contacting you to help you remember, and possibly work with you.

Take care,
Wayne

Jacqui D 01-18-2009 04:59 PM

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I am very wary of any being approaching me, i have had various negative experiences with aliens and i think they have the ability to heal or give you positive energy without touch.

On one experience i had with two retilian beings one was negative but i did feel the second was postive but i was given information by the second that he was a shapeshifter and was actually in disguise, these elite soldier ET's were looking for a dna trait and it was found in me, my family lineage has brought many visitations from, spirits, aliens and more.

With all the information i have read on this site it doubles my suspicions that all alien abductions are for their benefit not for yourself.
I would like to think that an alien race out there was here to aid us in all ways healing, enlightening, so forth but my experience on this subject has always been negative for me, that's not to say everyone would have the same experience as i but and this is a big but, there are so many ET'S working for our governments and militry how can you be sure.

Kathleen 01-18-2009 08:04 PM

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I agree with Egg... it is so very important to guard your spirit. Protect your soul. These "beings" are master manipulators. They have the ability to make you feel that they are "positive".

Czymra 01-18-2009 09:04 PM

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You guys make it sound like there is no entity out there that can be trusted.

Kathleen 01-18-2009 09:25 PM

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My feeling is.....

at this point in time,

during the quickening,

that the forces of darkness

are trying their damnedest

to reel us in.

Better safe than sorry, eh?

Egg 01-18-2009 09:37 PM

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Cz,
my thoughts are this - If they cannot approach you in the bright light of day, from a far enough distance for you to feel unafraid, and be open and honest about what they want, why they want it and how you fit in, they are not to be trusted.

In an experiment, a scientist picks up a guinea pig, injects it and puts it back. Does this mean the scientist should be trusted by the guinea pig because hey, it got put back didn't it?

The answer lays in their intent and lack of respect to humans and treating us as test animals.

Dakini 01-18-2009 10:46 PM

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Egg -
"Holy Mother of all thats good! You let a being lift your spirit from your body of your own free will? D, you are lucky, damn lucky they put you back - Oh please, please tell me you have refused them permission to ever do this again? do you know what they are doing? they are attempting to energetically replicate a human spirit, and need willing peoples to let them attempt this."
Um, yeah, I guess I let it. I thought it was lifting my whole body, not my spirit. I was in a lot of pain, and it did help me. I know I'm lucky; I took a foolish chance, from your reply. But I feel that some of the ETs do help us, that with all of the species out there, all of them can't be bad. It makes sense, too, what you said about them approaching us during the day when we are fully awake - rather than do it when we are sleeping. But I think the time of elixir - the mystic's time - when the Soul is at its most receptive and is probably broadcasting the signal.

C77 said that we have multiple DNA strands from ET races - so Wayne, it feels true that we are attracting what is resonating off of us.

I have been visited by various beings and energies since the age of 9. My mother admitted to me when I was 40 (why she waited that long, who knows) that she would hear me talking in my room on a regular basis after I had gone to bed. She would open the door, and I would be in a "trance, sleepwalking and talking" like I was having a conversation, a steady stream of information coming out of me, and she could never understand what I was talking about. I lived in her house until I was in my 20's, and she said I did this until then - I don't have any recollection of this. No WONDER I was so tired!

I was very fearful of visitations until around age 36...I sent them all away. After that age, I thought that possibly some of them might have something to give me rather than take from me.

I think it is hugely wise to listen to you folks on this subject, esp. since many have had some bad experiences. I have had good and a couple of very scary ones. So I will definitely take your advice.

Any added advice about what is best to do when one shows up?

Czymra 01-18-2009 10:53 PM

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Originally Posted by Egg (Post 104449)
Cz,
my thoughts are this - If they cannot approach you in the bright light of day, from a far enough distance for you to feel unafraid, and be open and honest about what they want, why they want it and how you fit in, they are not to be trusted.

In an experiment, a scientist picks up a guinea pig, injects it and puts it back. Does this mean the scientist should be trusted by the guinea pig because hey, it got put back didn't it?

The answer lays in their intent and lack of respect to humans and treating us as test animals.

True enough but one might figure that life at day is so hectic we don't even recognise them. Being multi-dimensional might make it necessary to wait for a certain window of opportunity to even establish contact.
Nevertheless, I myself don't resonate with this idea that there is always an initial fear. Then again, I wish I had just someone to talk to that wasn't quite as elusive as my higher self. ;)
What are aliens good for anyway?

NorthernSanctuary 01-19-2009 01:00 AM

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Dakini,

There is no doubt that you have to always be careful in dealing with strangers, maybe more so if they are aliens. You have to remember that you are living your life, and your circumstances are made for you. So... it is important for you to develop your own discernment, not to learn to blindly listen to me or anyone else, no matter how well intended.

You might consider looking up Dolores Cannon. She has been able to help people through regression hypnosis to connect to their higher self. No doubt, you will be able to find out everything connected with your unusual experiences (she has a series called the Convoluted Universe that will give you an idea of what she does).

Peace,
Wayne

no caste 01-19-2009 01:53 AM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by brendals (Post 104179)
":Paul Hellier, the former Prime Minister of Canada, is on RECORD stating that he has direct knowledge that factions within the US gov't and within the Pentagon are working with (2) rouge groups of ET's....an exchange program for advanced technology."

Hi brendals - Hellyer is not a former PM. :original:

Paul Hellyer was our Minister of National Defense ca 1963-68 under Lester B. Pearson (the then PM). In 1968, he became Minister of Transportation under PM Pierre Elliot Trudeau, and resigned in 1969 over a housing policy dispute - Hellyer didn't approve of old housing being torn down, I think. Such an interesting, independent man.

Here's his wikipedia biography. He has long advocated for UFO disclosure and peace in space. You can follow more about it on www.exopolitics.org comment #38. It has notes re further resources like Peter Jennings "Seeing is Believing" documentary, Philip Corso's "The Day After Roswell" book, the 2005 Exopolitics Toronto Symposium where Hellyer was a speaker, an unnamed US General, etc.

You can see his statement re 9/11 & photo on page 24 in this PDF document (32pp), "Patriots Question 9/11: Senior Military, Intelligence, and Government Critics of 9/11 Commission Report" (Dec 4, 2006). It may surprise you to see who is on the list!

LOVE, PEACE

futureyes 01-19-2009 09:41 AM

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Originally Posted by Czymra (Post 104434)
You guys make it sound like there is no entity out there that can be trusted.



there feels to be so much focus on which type of entity we can trust if any at all ...

the significance isn't so much which one of THEM can or can we not trust ...

rather ... what is important is can we trust OUR SELVES ...

our energy should be directed more towards locating OUR core truth ... locating OUR inner strength ...

when we continuously direct our energy to THEM ... trying to categorize the lot into yes and no et's ... we are taking away from OUR truth ... we are handing OUR power over to THEM ...

you see ... if we know who we truly are ... if we KNOW this within our core ... we then know the full capacity of our power ...

once we know this ... there then no longer is an emphasis to weed through the garden of entities with a magnifying glass because we have fear of the dark ones ...

when we come to know the power we as divine beings of light have within us ... that's it ... there is nothing more to discern ... we no longer fear any of them because we KNOW ... who WE are ...

dark entities make their way to us when there is places within our selves that are uncertain of our truth ... they find them ... they gravitate to us because these places of uncertainty within our selves are spaces of fear ...

fear ... and they will come ... it just works that way ...

fear not ... the dark et's won't come ... they do not sense the spaces of uncertainty ... crevaces filled with fear because they do not exist ... not when we are grounded and aligned in our truth ...

when we know and live our truth ... we know the power of our love and our light ... nothing else can stand up to us when we are truly within our power ...

when we are wishy-washy about our truth ... the dark et's will gravitate to that because energetically they just do ... it is the core of what THEY are ... they will come to try to sprinkle more fear within us ... enough fear and we eventually give in ... fear breaks us then ...

in all my own experiences with various entities ... they will detect your fear of them ... seek you out and create all sorts of havoc within your self because you have given them YOUR power to do so ... you've allowed it because you were not certain of your core truth ... you were not certain you ARE a divine being of light and love ...

once you know your truth and stand SOLIDLY within it ... the dark ones no longer come visit ... you may see them but they will not seek you out personally ... too much effort ... when you know and live your truth ... you shine ... blinds them really ... they'll check out the next person ...

it is then that we have more interaction with the "good" et's ... and can benefit from that ...

when we keep our power and not give it away ... we are WHOLE ... no crevaces ... no cracks filled with anything other than LIGHT ...

LIGHT is POWER ... OUR divine power ... it has always been within us ... we've never lost it ... we simply misplaced it temporarily ...

time to locate it again ... too many of us now on this earth with the empty spaces of uncertainty within our selves ... too many ... this is why we are where we are ... uncertainty ...

are we fear or are we love ... bring the focus back on OUR SELVES ... this parallels so much to what is coming our way now ... the shift ... the shift to the new world ... a world where everyone KNOWS they ARE divine beings of light and the power that comes with that ...

large et's ... small ones ... grey ones ... it doesn't matter ... focusing on THEM is absolutely saying we're not certain who WE are ...

once we know who we really are and our truth ... dark forces simply dissolve ... be it the grey et's or the ones that roam this earth in human form ... there is NOTHING left for them to gravitate to ... we are then WHOLE to them ... we SHINE ... nothing remains here for them ... whether they leave or dissolve isn't our business ... the significance is that we KNOW ... finally ... who we ARE ...

everything else including negative et's ... simply leave because we no longer focus our energy upon them but within our own selves ...

we need to blind ALL dark forces with our LIGHT now ... if we all located our truth and came to do this in this very moment ... the dark would have NO ONE to go after ... NO ONE ...

it is then DONE ... no more ... fear dissolves and negativity follows it ...

we MUST take our power back and know ... they cannot stand up to us ... they cannot bully us any longer ... they cannot place fear within us because we are beings of light and as such there is no room for fear ...

it is time we do our work ... focus on our selves ... locate our truth and know our power ...

there are good et's ...

have we figured out yet who WE really are ...



:wub2:

Humble Janitor 01-19-2009 09:58 AM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Czymra (Post 104366)
I can second that. Yet I believe that it is exactly that jealousy that stands in our way.

Not jealous but I'm perhaps too curious as in I want to actually see what others have seen.

Czymra 01-19-2009 03:05 PM

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Thank you futureyes.

futureyes 01-19-2009 03:37 PM

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Originally Posted by Humble Janitor (Post 104578)
Not jealous but I'm perhaps too curious as in I want to actually see what others have seen.

personally i am not of the knowing that et interaction in this moment is a necessary prerequisite to shift through the eye of the needle ... into the new ...

we are all different tiles in the mosaic of all that is ... our individuality brings the mosaic its beauty as a whole ...

as such ... we require various teachings on our path ... lessons that i require in locating my truth are not necessarily someone else's teachings ... each will have their own but each of us will bring forth what is required to complete this beautiful new mosaic which we are now creating ...

some require interaction with et's ... some will not ...

if we are believing individual et visitation at this point to be a "need" in locating our truth ... we remain in the way of the old ... the ego way ... "thinking" we need, desire, must have ... more ...

we must locate our own truth via our own guidance ... not that of anothers ... we are not missing out on any kind of enlightenmnt from an entity interaction which will bring us closer to our truth ...

if there is a necessary teaching in it for us ... rest asssured ... it will be ...

can we trust that if it does not occur for us that we do not require that particular teaching?

can we trust to focus on our own intuition of that of which is true and right for our OWN learning?

once we refrain from taking detours on our path which once again limit us to feel inadquate with who we are ... that we need to stop and find MORE ... that is when we no longer walk our paths ... we FLY!

from what i know ... if interaction with any entities at this point is a necessary benefit to allow us to locate our truth ... then it will be ... and we learn ...

if it does not occur ... we have not LOST anything ... rather we have GAINED a quicker pace ... as long as we know it was not meant to be ... and that we are ok ... and to trust what will benefit our learning will come to us and perhaps not to another ...

we are human ... we are curious ...

we are divine beings of light ... we are whole within our own truth ...

futureyes 01-19-2009 03:47 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Kathleen (Post 104442)
My feeling is.....

at this point in time,

during the quickening,

that the forces of darkness

are trying their damnedest

to reel us in.

Better safe than sorry, eh?

i feel this too kathleen ... exponentially since january 1st ...

feel it to be so on all levels ... feeling the reeling has been stepped up ... sending out the bigger guns of dark they are ...

stand within our radiant light ... shine brighter in our truth than we ever have ...

expand our hearts ... expand our love ... illuminate our truth ...

all is well ... all is exactly as it is meant to be ...

:wub2:

rhythm 01-19-2009 04:11 PM

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Originally Posted by Czymra (Post 104615)
Thank you futureyes.

SAME BEAUTY AND ELOWQUENCE FROM YOU FUTURE EYES .
IT IS A PRIVALIDGE TO READ YOUR WORDS OF WISDOM
I THANK YOU ALSO .
LOVE AND RESPECT RHYTHMM :wub2:

Egg 01-19-2009 04:19 PM

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http://www.alienjigsaw.com/Abductees/abductees.html

http://www.alienjigsaw.com/I%20Forgo...-%20Wilson.pdf

Download that, read it and be totally amazed, a little scared, but certainly better informed of the potential threat we face.

Kathleen 01-19-2009 05:01 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by futureyes (Post 104622)
i feel this too kathleen ... exponentially since january 1st ...

feel it to be so on all levels ... feeling the reeling has been stepped up ... sending out the bigger guns of dark they are ...



Yes! futureyes.....

smells of desperation and last ditch efforts,

does it not?

futureyes 01-19-2009 07:00 PM

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Originally Posted by Kathleen (Post 104640)
Yes! futureyes.....

smells of desperation and last ditch efforts,

does it not?


smells like a cornered animal ... fear for its survival ... unpredictable ... pushing ...

:wub2:

Dakini 01-19-2009 08:29 PM

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Thanks for the posts,
Northern Sanctuary, Future Eyes, Egg; and also for the links. Interesting stuff...!

ETs have been a small part of my experiences, albeit a very intriguing part, and I don't discount anything that anyone contributes. My credo has long been "I believe in possibility." Doesn't mean I buy everything, but what rings true for me.

The longer one is on this path, the more one may take a wait and see approach, or rather ask what shall be revealed, bc so many times experiences begin to gell together to make sense later on - the big picture becomes clearer, so I am never one to advocate that it is always best to take an experience and immediately figure it out; I think these things shape us.

In the writings of great mystics, they reveal that at some juncture along the mystic's path one will encounter all kinds of beings. It is part of the experience. In my ET experiences I have been given information, healing, and possibly more. In regard to mastership of the mystic, the adept will be able to stand in the light of the Absolute alongside other species and beings with no fear. It is a part of All That Is.

When I teach, I ask people to try to understand the difference between the psychic and the mystic. The mystic aspires toward the Absolute and willingly abandons holding onto any siddhis, or psychic gifts that have been accumulated (part of the mystic's experience) along that means. I say that I am psychic so that ppl can see a glimpse of me, but I am on the mystic's path.

Henners, Humble Janitor...
If you knew the sacrifices I have endured, you might not be envious at all, but find the magical sense of luck on your side. There have been times I have lost everything - twice, been out of work, ill, labeled eccentric, single for a long, long period of time still, unable to pay rent. I have literally been brought to my knees in the past. We rise, we fall, we rise again. Most people would run from this. But the rewards have been beyond my wildest... Be not careful but aware of what you wish. :death1: Your personality will dramatically shift. This is prob another thread...

Dakini

Czymra 01-19-2009 10:24 PM

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Wise words Dakini that I shall heed.

Egg, that file was very revealing but now I'm depressed. Another 'end of times' picture with maybe some pockets of humanity bailing out. I better go meditate to make sure I'm in the zone. ;)

asteram 01-20-2009 09:09 AM

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One will get the lessons that they need to get. Or at least be exposed to them and have the chance to get them.

The old saying "When the student is ready, the teacher will appear" is true on many levels and is also true moment to moment. I guess what I'm saying is that the "teacher" is always there, but the student is not always ready or paying attention. Still, the lesson will be given, and if the student is sleeping or not paying attention the lesson will be given again. And again.

What lessons were you given today? What did you have the opportunity to learn, and did you pay attention and learn it? If not, don't worry, you will get the lesson again. If you need to repeat first grade 100 times you will have that opportunity. But why would anyone want to do that?

futureyes 01-20-2009 05:36 PM

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Originally Posted by asteram (Post 104846)
One will get the lessons that they need to get. Or at least be exposed to them and have the chance to get them.

The old saying "When the student is ready, the teacher will appear" is true on many levels and is also true moment to moment. I guess what I'm saying is that the "teacher" is always there, but the student is not always ready or paying attention. Still, the lesson will be given, and if the student is sleeping or not paying attention the lesson will be given again. And again.

What lessons were you given today? What did you have the opportunity to learn, and did you pay attention and learn it? If not, don't worry, you will get the lesson again. If you need to repeat first grade 100 times you will have that opportunity. But why would anyone want to do that?

spot on asteram ...

there are so many opportunities for us to learn what we require to further us along with our truth ... experiences with et's are but a particle of sand within the miles of sandy beach we call life ...

the most significant of teachings arrive within simplicity ... always have they been with us ... have we taken them for face value or have we allowed that there is more to them than what our eyes see or our ears hear ...

it is a beautiful place to be when we can see and hear beyond what we "think" is ... for then ... we are beyond fear ...

beyond illusion ...

and suddenly life feels so very different ... somewhere beyond the drama of what was ...

and we realize ... our view is no longer from our eyes ... but from our hearts ...

we then see all that is from our hearts ...

and our fear ... no longer exists ...

no longer do we fear our teachings ... suddenly we embrace them ...

and i am way off topic here ...



what have we seen from our hearts today ...

:wub2:


Gilgamesh 01-23-2009 11:29 PM

Re: Questions about the Tall Aliens
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by brendals (Post 104179)
":Paul Hellier, the former Prime Minister of Canada, is on RECORD stating that he has direct knowledge that factions within the US gov't and within the Pentagon are working with (2) rouge groups of ET's....an exchange program for advanced technology."

Hi C77... could you please provide the link to this statement... I have heard rumblings of this before but haven't seen the official record.

thanks

First, just to set the record straight, Paul Hellier was Minister of Defense under Pierre Elliott Trudeau who was Prime minister. Here is a link to an article about his statement
http://www.exopolitics.org/Exo-Comment-38.htm

macrostheblack 01-24-2009 02:29 PM

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WhaT ever our human opinions, feelings and judgement towards these off planet/on planet beings may be the importance is to be balanced. Balancing the human and spirit projects a msg from the source which ets good or bad have to abide by. They then know that every act carried out with you is watched by the creator. In some abuctions that take place there is intervention by guides and the creators will to stop violations repeating. When this happens the little greyling type notice nothing but the higher et being in charge gets a sharp, shocking msg that its motives and intentions have broken gods law. That there presence upon earth as been located and they must leave, return to their own dimension or face penalties towards their own race.

Macros


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