Some positivity

[Czymra]

Hello,

This has been graciously supplied on the Hudson River thread but I wanted to put out the link once more as I think it profoundly sounds up all the good reasons to be positive, and we don't want to be negative do we?

http://divinecosmos.com/index.php?op...=424&Itemid=70

What I find important is that he says that it's all coming out, everybody knows. I think this is true. I hear people mention some notions along these lines that years ago would have believed everything is just fine.

Ever thought that by going to Avalon you're looking for negative confirmation?

Originally Posted by Czymra

Ever thought that by going to Avalon you're looking for negative confirmation?

Czymra - No, it's a way to explore the positive....

I came across info about 5's which I wanted to share with you, but now I can't find your 'Elements' thread [re 5's in Western thought] - and found this one instead. No matter, this 5 is a bit different anyway, because its appearance is planar and its essence, likely non-elemental. I came across it reading about Pythagoras/Pythagorians; it might relate to the secret aspects of dark energy, too, since it can be very mathematical, unenlightened or heavy in mass. So I'm adding to this thread in true spirit: some positivity. For me, anyway, because I'm not so keen on theosophists or satanists, the latter especially is in a 'ritualistic' loony bin.

The Pythagoreans were a secret group with a very interesting history. It ties in, I think, to modern fascist philosophies or states. I like the mathematics, but not the secrecy etc. This is a really good article, with extra links on it for re additional information:
http://www-groups.dcs.st-and.ac.uk/~...ythagoras.html

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... The other two philosophers who were to influence Pythagoras, and to introduce him to mathematical ideas, were Thales [also: a mythical land in Nazi 'thought'] and his pupil Anaximander who both lived on Miletus. In [8] it is said that Pythagoras visited Thales in Miletus when he was between 18 and 20 years old. By this time Thales was an old man and, although he created a strong impression on Pythagoras, he probably did not teach him a great deal. However he did contribute to Pythagoras's interest in mathematics and astronomy, and advised him to travel to Egypt to learn more of these subjects. Thales's pupil, Anaximander, lectured on Miletus and Pythagoras attended these lectures. Anaximander certainly was interested in geometry and cosmology and many of his ideas would influence Pythagoras's own views.

In about 535 BC Pythagoras went to Egypt. This happened a few years after the tyrant Polycrates seized control of the city of Samos. There is some evidence to suggest that Pythagoras and Polycrates were friendly at first and it is claimed [5] that Pythagoras went to Egypt with a letter of introduction written by Polycrates. In fact Polycrates had an alliance with Egypt and there were therefore strong links between Samos and Egypt at this time. The accounts of Pythagoras's time in Egypt suggest that he visited many of the temples and took part in many discussions with the priests. According to Porphyry ([12] and [13]) Pythagoras was refused admission to all the temples except the one at Diospolis where he was accepted into the priesthood after completing the rites necessary for admission.

It is not difficult to relate many of Pythagoras's beliefs, ones he would later impose on the society that he set up in Italy, to the customs that he came across in Egypt. For example the secrecy of the Egyptian priests, their refusal to eat beans, their refusal to wear even cloths made from animal skins, and their striving for purity were all customs that Pythagoras would later adopt. Porphyry in [12] and [13] says that Pythagoras learnt geometry from the Egyptians but it is likely that he was already acquainted with geometry, certainly after teachings from Thales and Anaximander...

Pythagoras made a journey to Crete shortly after his return to Samos to study the system of laws there. Back in Samos he founded a school which was called the semicircle. Iamblichus [8] writes in the third century AD that:-

... he formed a school in the city [of Samos], the 'semicircle' of Pythagoras, which is known by that name even today, in which the Samians hold political meetings. They do this because they think one should discuss questions about goodness, justice and expediency in this place which was founded by the man who made all these subjects his business. Outside the city he made a cave the private site of his own philosophical teaching, spending most of the night and daytime there and doing research into the uses of mathematics...

Pythagoras founded a philosophical and religious school in Croton (now Crotone, on the east of the heel of southern Italy) that had many followers. Pythagoras was the head of the society with an inner circle of followers known as mathematikoi. The mathematikoi lived permanently with the Society, had no personal possessions and were vegetarians. They were taught by Pythagoras himself and obeyed strict rules. The beliefs that Pythagoras held were [2]:-

(1) that at its deepest level, reality is mathematical in nature,
(2) that philosophy can be used for spiritual purification,
(3) that the soul can rise to union with the divine,
(4) that certain symbols have a mystical significance, and
(5) that all brothers of the order should observe strict loyalty and secrecy.

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Like the swastika in Indo-European religion, the pentagon (pentagram, pentacle) could be claimed as sublime in Western culture, even though historical actors have sought to damage or hide its true nature and/or spirit, i.e. absence of knowledge.



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The irrationality of the Pentagon and the Pentagram
http://www.mlahanas.de/Greeks/Pentagon.htm"]http://www.mlahanas.de/Greeks/Pentagon.htm[/URL]



AB = BA', BE' = A'D

EB/BA' = BA'/DB' = DB'/B'C' = 1.618033989.... (golden ratio)

The Pythagoreans used the Pentagon star (Pentagram) formed by the five diagonals of a regular Pentagon as a symbol of their school. It was probably this reason that they studied its geometrical properties and that they discovered that this symbol contradicts their idea that everything can be expressed by integer numbers or ratio of integer numbers. Pentagram is a greek word for “pente grammes”, i.e. five lines. Sometimes it is called also a pentalpha, as it looks consisting of 5 rotated “A” symbols.



Agrippa von Nettesheim (Heinrich Cornelius ) (1486 – 1535) , De occulta philosophia



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Forget all that man stuff, this is my favourite, actual breadcrumb records of earth's journeys/motions in the universe:


http://www.fcps.edu/AnnandaleHS/Geom...ythagorean.htm



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http://www.orderwhitemoon.org/goddes...or/Hathor.html

love & light

For me, a new angle of beauty in the river -



thanks for posting!!

[Czymra]

Hmmmm. Thanks. Will keep it in my 'backhead'.

[Humble Janitor]

It's a miracle that we certainly needed and there may very well be more in the near future.