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Old 04-07-2009, 01:39 PM   #1
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IT IS VERY UNDERSTANDABLE HOW A FEW PEOPLE CAN BECOME A LITTLE PEEVED AT SOMEBODY BEING ASKED TO VALIDATE HIM/HERSELF ESPECIALLY SOMEONE SO READ AND LISTENED TOO BY SO MANY FIRSTLY THOSE THAT READ AND BELIEVED MAY FEEL A LITTLE DUPED OR INSULTED BUT ANOTHER WAY TO LOOK AT IT IS (RATHER THAN LOOK AT BEING SUCKED IN OR HAVING YOUR INTELLIGENCE INSULTED ) IS THAT SOMEBODY HAS TAKEN IT UPON THEMSELVES TO PROTECT yes protect THE AVALON FORUM AND ITS MEMBERS FROM BEING TAKEN FOR A RIDE IN HIS/HER OPINION.


AS I SEE IT ............. NOW BEAR IN MIND I AM ON MORPHINE 25MG EVERY HOUR! SO I WILL DO NY BEST.............................................. ..............
I AM A MECHANICAL FITTER BY TRADE A MECH; FITTER REPAIRS MACHINARY PUMPS CENTRIFUGES VALVES PIPEWORK GEARBOXES .... ALLINDUSTRIAL STUFF. BUT DUE TO THE NATURE OF MY JOB I NEED TO KNOW ABOUT STRUCTURE I DONT MEAN BRIDGES AND BUILDINGS I MEAN STEEL AND NON FERROUS METALS........NOW IN THE FORUM I CALL MYSELF AN ENGINEER THE REASON FOR THAT IS, IN THE US A MECH FITTER IS A MECHANIC A MECHANIC IN THE UK IS SOMEONE WHO FIXES CARS IN THE MERCHANT AND ROYAL NAVY I WOULD BE AN ENGINEER BUT AN ENGINEER IN TH UK IS SOMEONE WHO HAS BEEN TO UNIVERSITY AND HOLD DEGREES AS A STRUCTURAL OR CIVIL OR MECHANICAL ELECTRICAL ENGINEER.

RIGHT STAY WITH ME THERE IS A POINT TO THIS.............wheres me tablets OH YEAH,
AS A MECHANICAL FITTER I CAN TALK THE TALK ie I CAN SPEAK TO AN ENGINEER AND KNOW WHAT HE IS SAYING WHEN HE MENTIONS STEEL STRUCTURE I KNOW WHAT CAUSES STEEL OR ANY OTHER METAL TO FAIL WHY IT IS USED HOW TO NORMALIZE ANNEAL ect ect WHAT IS A BOLT ? HOW DOES IT WORK ? THERE IS MECHANICAL PRINCIPALS AND DYNAMICS INVOLVED IN A SIMLE NUT AND BOLT, THREAD FORMS WHY DO WE HAVE DIFFERENT THREADS ACME FINE COARSE HOW DOES A ONE WAY BEARING WORK DIFFERENT BEARING TAPERED BALL ANGULAR CONTACT NEEDLE ROLLER ROLLER WHY ALL THE DIFFERENT TYPES PROS AN CONS

RIGHT IF I HAVE NOT BORED YOU RIGID ALL I AM IS A FITTER I KNOW MY STUFF AND FULLY UNDERSTAND ANYTHING MECHANICAL A BIT OF ELECTRICAL I WELD STICK MIG AND TIG, BUT I AM NOT A WELDER OR ELECTRICIAN, I CAN DECIDE ON BEARING METERIAL TYPES ECT TO DO A SPECIFIC JOB ............... BUT I AM NOT A QUALIFIED ACEDAMIC UNIVERSITY DEGREED ENGINEER SO I COULD TALK ALL DAY ABOUT HOWTO BUILD A SHIP DESIGN A CAR BUILD A BRIDGE COS I HAVE BEEN AROUND IT ALL ME LIFE I COULD SAY I DESIGNED THE HARRIER JUMP JET I HAVE THAT MUCH TECHNICAL KNOWLEDGE..............BUT I WOULD BE FABRICATING THE TRUTH AND ASKED TO PROVE MY ACEDEMIC QUALIFICATIONS ALL I COULD OFFER WOULD BE MY ICI INDENTURES AND MY CITY AND GUILDS

I HOPE THAT IS FAIRLY CLEAR .................. THIS IS ALL EGG IS ASKING FOR
SORRY FOR THE LENGTH BUT IT WAS THE ONLY WAY I COULD PUT IT .

RESPECTS AND KIDEST REGARDS DAVE CASTER
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IT IS VERY UNDERSTANDABLE HOW A FEW PEOPLE CAN BECOME A LITTLE PEEVED AT SOMEBODY BEING ASKED TO VALIDATE HIM/HERSELF ESPECIALLY SOMEONE SO READ AND LISTENED TOO BY SO MANY FIRSTLY THOSE THAT READ AND BELIEVED MAY FEEL A LITTLE DUPED OR INSULTED BUT ANOTHER WAY TO LOOK AT IT IS (RATHER THAN LOOK AT BEING SUCKED IN OR HAVING YOUR INTELLIGENCE INSULTED ) IS THAT SOMEBODY HAS TAKEN IT UPON THEMSELVES TO PROTECT yes protect THE AVALON FORUM AND ITS MEMBERS FROM BEING TAKEN FOR A RIDE IN HIS/HER OPINION.


AS I SEE IT ............. NOW BEAR IN MIND I AM ON MORPHINE 25MG EVERY HOUR! SO I WILL DO NY BEST.............................................. ..............
I AM A MECHANICAL FITTER BY TRADE A MECH; FITTER REPAIRS MACHINARY PUMPS CENTRIFUGES VALVES PIPEWORK GEARBOXES .... ALLINDUSTRIAL STUFF. BUT DUE TO THE NATURE OF MY JOB I NEED TO KNOW ABOUT STRUCTURE I DONT MEAN BRIDGES AND BUILDINGS I MEAN STEEL AND NON FERROUS METALS........NOW IN THE FORUM I CALL MYSELF AN ENGINEER THE REASON FOR THAT IS, IN THE US A MECH FITTER IS A MECHANIC A MECHANIC IN THE UK IS SOMEONE WHO FIXES CARS IN THE MERCHANT AND ROYAL NAVY I WOULD BE AN ENGINEER BUT AN ENGINEER IN TH UK IS SOMEONE WHO HAS BEEN TO UNIVERSITY AND HOLD DEGREES AS A STRUCTURAL OR CIVIL OR MECHANICAL ELECTRICAL ENGINEER.

RIGHT STAY WITH ME THERE IS A POINT TO THIS.............wheres me tablets OH YEAH,
AS A MECHANICAL FITTER I CAN TALK THE TALK ie I CAN SPEAK TO AN ENGINEER AND KNOW WHAT HE IS SAYING WHEN HE MENTIONS STEEL STRUCTURE I KNOW WHAT CAUSES STEEL OR ANY OTHER METAL TO FAIL WHY IT IS USED HOW TO NORMALIZE ANNEAL ect ect WHAT IS A BOLT ? HOW DOES IT WORK ? THERE IS MECHANICAL PRINCIPALS AND DYNAMICS INVOLVED IN A SIMLE NUT AND BOLT, THREAD FORMS WHY DO WE HAVE DIFFERENT THREADS ACME FINE COARSE HOW DOES A ONE WAY BEARING WORK DIFFERENT BEARING TAPERED BALL ANGULAR CONTACT NEEDLE ROLLER ROLLER WHY ALL THE DIFFERENT TYPES PROS AN CONS

RIGHT IF I HAVE NOT BORED YOU RIGID ALL I AM IS A FITTER I KNOW MY STUFF AND FULLY UNDERSTAND ANYTHING MECHANICAL A BIT OF ELECTRICAL I WELD STICK MIG AND TIG, BUT I AM NOT A WELDER OR ELECTRICIAN, I CAN DECIDE ON BEARING METERIAL TYPES ECT TO DO A SPECIFIC JOB ............... BUT I AM NOT A QUALIFIED ACEDAMIC UNIVERSITY DEGREED ENGINEER SO I COULD TALK ALL DAY ABOUT HOWTO BUILD A SHIP DESIGN A CAR BUILD A BRIDGE COS I HAVE BEEN AROUND IT ALL ME LIFE I COULD SAY I DESIGNED THE HARRIER JUMP JET I HAVE THAT MUCH TECHNICAL KNOWLEDGE..............BUT I WOULD BE FABRICATING THE TRUTH AND ASKED TO PROVE MY ACEDEMIC QUALIFICATIONS ALL I COULD OFFER WOULD BE MY ICI INDENTURES AND MY CITY AND GUILDS

I HOPE THAT IS FAIRLY CLEAR .................. THIS IS ALL EGG IS ASKING FOR
SORRY FOR THE LENGTH BUT IT WAS THE ONLY WAY I COULD PUT IT .

RESPECTS AND KIDEST REGARDS DAVE CASTER
Another individual whom cannot digest what i have stated re that damn proof Egg wishes for his little collection in order for me to join his naughty little boys club. I WILL USE UPPER CASE HERE TOO TO MAKE A POINT. I HAVE STATED MORE THAN ONCE THAT I WILL GLADLY DEAL DIRECTLY WITH BILL AND KERRY ON THIS TOPIC AS IT LEADS INTO OTHER AREAS THAT ARE NOT DUE FOR DISCLOSURE HERE AT THIS TIME.
FFS, IF I have to repeat that again!!!! READ IT DIGEST IT ASSIMILATE IT ITS PLAIN BLOODY ENGLISH.


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Old 04-07-2009, 02:18 PM   #3
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MODS, ADMIN, if you do not take some kind of control here you are not worthy of your jobs!! This bloody fixation with one tiny aspect here is ruining this thread, keeping others away, turning whom I thought were valid experiencers into joining Eggs little tirade, but now see them as perhaps fantasy prone individuals whom jump on latest bandwagon as its fashionable. People better get a grip here as I'm rapidly losing patience.

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Hi i am pretty new here on the forums and i have spent the time to read this thread from post #1 many people have sensitive information that they would provide in the correct setting, and anyone who has studies these areas will want to see something in way of evidence of claims being made it the vicious circle of this realm of study, perhaps the best way is Mr.king has offered to release something to Bill and Kerri so maybe that could be arranged and some part of that disseminated down to the researchers who would like to know privately. if that could be arranged it seems it should be acceptable to all.
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Hi i am pretty new here on the forums and i have spent the time to read this thread from post #1 many people have sensitive information that they would provide in the correct setting, and anyone who has studies these areas will want to see something in way of evidence of claims being made it the vicious circle of this realm of study, perhaps the best way is Mr.king has offered to release something to Bill and Kerri so maybe that could be arranged and some part of that disseminated down to the researchers who would like to know privately. if that could be arranged it seems it should be acceptable to all.
Glory hallelujah, someone with some sense and whom has read the posts!! But i'm afraid eggyweggy wants his own personal proof as he has set himself up as that leader of demand proof seekers. People seem to forget I came in here as Barry King whistleblowing on a particular facility and its remit.

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People seem to forget I came in here as Barry King whistleblowing on a particular facility and its remit.

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Yeah couldn't started your thread as 'Barry King the psyops operative' could you?
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Hi THEWATCHER,

Not wanting to join in the affray as I've been asked not to prod the sleeping lion, but, you just answered why there is aparently justifiable questioning by somebody who is obviously interested in the materia for a little evidence of what you claim.

We must all understand that when you arrived here you yourself informed the public that you WERE a security guard at a secret underground base at a place called Peasemore. You worked there for two short stints but you were privvy to witness the creation of Greys.

Then you went on to involve information that many on the internet have already published about the NSA and what is supposed to be happening over in the US.

Now you are a psyop professional.

These are the basic facts. I'm not trying to put any slant on this post.

This has spanned out almost as long as the forum has been in existence.

So here goes. It could very well be that Egg wants the proof to verify your claims because it could be that he has important information that he can only share with someone 'in the know'. He could want to share information, even confirm information without him giving away too much to the layman,or place himselfin any compromising position.

I really do thnk that you could send this info in private, if you choose, to first of all get an ally in what is often considered a polemical subject and discover if there is any sensative information out there that can't be given to anybody, not even Bill nor Kerry.

Just a thought. If nobody finds the idea interesting, just ignore the post. No need to reply justifying why you think the idea not very good.

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Glory hallelujah, someone with some sense and whom has read the posts!! But i'm afraid eggyweggy wants his own personal proof as he has set himself up as that leader of demand proof seekers. People seem to forget I came in here as Barry King whistleblowing on a particular facility and its remit.

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STEVE A THAT BRILL THOSE LAST 2 PARAGRAPHS THATS WHAT I WAS TRYING TO SAY IN ME "FOG INDUCED BELLANDONIC MORPHINE AND TRAMADOL PAINKILLING ECSTACY", DID'NT IT COME OUT LIKE THAT !!!!
WELL DONE STEVE WELL SAID SIR AND TO YOU EGG FOR YOUR UNSTINTING RELENTLESS DIGGING AND KINALLY TO MR KING FOR HANGING IN THERE !!

GONNA HAVE A FEW MORE PILLS !!!

DAVE CASTER KINDEST REGARDS
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Proof and facts are not truth.

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Man is awakening his forgotten power of discernment and intuition. This means that facts and proof are based on the ego perception. We are learning to feel whats of the higher vibration ,and becomming one with that which is unseen without proof or facts. We must develop a knowing and feel with our hearts.

Bow to truth regardless of the bearer. We serve light, instead of wrangling over the one who brings it. In this way we prove that we are seeking to know better the will and the dictates of that which is unnameable.

Facts could be that there is a monkey calling himself barry King with his own PC. If i feel truth from the monkey ,what does it matter. The facts are that i have the deed to my house.The truth, is i can't take it with me.


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. Egg, you had a visitation with Jesus,so proove it.

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i have to agree with Kerri , knowing what these groups can do to people who inform people of the truth there are times when there is no proof left people in fact have been completely mind wiped given a different history then what actually happened and left somewhere to try to figure it out. they are the lucky ones alot of awful things have been done by the PTB, imagine waking up somewhere and you are no longer you, and having no way to prove your not the persona you have been given. how this ties into people asking for evedence is it is one of the things that can happen and its why many choose to be silent or at most covert in what they say.
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Awhile back, when another member was personally threatened where someone showed up at his home pounding on his front door at 6 am in the morning, shortly following an altercation with Barry on the forum, I was asked to check out Barry by several others, including the member who felt threatened enough to change his physical location within the week of this particular incident. The member also reported that two of his friends had mysteriously died after receiving the "warning" and that he was taking this incident seriously. I asked Henry Deacon about Barry. Henry Decon reported that although some of the information Barry provided could be substantiated (meaning it can be found on the Internet) that in his opinion Barry is a fake.
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Awhile back, when another member was personally threatened where someone showed up at his home pounding on his front door at 6 am in the morning, shortly following an altercation with Barry on the forum, I was asked to check out Barry by several others, including the member who felt threatened enough to change his physical location within the week of this particular incident. The member also reported that two of his friends had mysteriously died after receiving the "warning" and that he was taking this incident seriously. I asked Henry Deacon about Barry. Henry Decon reported that although some of the information Barry provided could be substantiated (meaning it can be found on the Internet) that in his opinion Barry is a fake.
first I am not for or against Mr.King and being new to forums id like to pose a question wouldn't the fact that someone threatened a member of this forum after talking to Mr. king lend some weight that he has some ability to contact O.G.A to get that done if in fact it wasn't just happen stance again for the record i am not pro- or con Mr.king just am trying to dig through the coal to find the diamond in all this information
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first I am not for or against Mr.King and being new to forums id like to pose a question wouldn't the fact that someone threatened a member of this forum after talking to Mr. king lend some weight that he has some ability to contact O.G.A to get that done if in fact it wasn't just happen stance again for the record i am not pro- or con Mr.king just am trying to dig through the coal to find the diamond in all this information
HOLD ON THERE!! see that proves my point in my last post, see, now we have others conveniently thinking along the lines that our good ol mod posted!! I do not believe it. Its as bad as someone going to another source and asking their opinion of a certain person. Whom set themselves up as the God with all knowledge of others? This is becoming a farce. I declare Henry Deacon a fake, and one or two others to boot LOL LOL LOL

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HOLD ON THERE!! see that proves my point in my last post, see, now we have others conveniently thinking along the lines that our good ol mod posted!! I do not believe it. Its as bad as someone going to another source and asking their opinion of a certain person. Whom set themselves up as the God with all knowledge of others? This is becoming a farce. I declare Henry Deacon a fake, and one or two others to boot LOL LOL LOL

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Mr. king and forum: what i don't know = are the facts being presented entirely fact or what is given to be truth in a compartmentalized arena. i also don't know if you are indeed BMK or and agent of the same honestly i don't care from what Ive read throughout this thread is you have attempted to follow a prescribed setting of information release, consistent with a know agenda.

What i know= that there are good guys and bad guys: this i know more then most, and i have not yet decided which side you fall on and the same for others. i do know any group intrested in holding back the truth would have people all over sites like this, call me paranoid call me delusional its fine with me i've seen the results of what these groups do. Tag
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Mr. king and forum: what i don't know = are the facts being presented entirely fact or what is given to be truth in a compartmentalized arena. i also don't know if you are indeed BMK or and agent of the same honestly i don't care from what Ive read throughout this thread is you have attempted to follow a prescribed setting of information release, consistent with a know agenda.

What i know= that there are good guys and bad guys: this i know more then most, and i have not yet decided which side you fall on and the same for others. i do know any group intrested in holding back the truth would have people all over sites like this, call me paranoid call me delusional its fine with me i've seen the results of what these groups do. Tag
Take it from me, there is no one here at these forums important enough to take out, too many paranoid, delusional and fantasy prone individuals. They stick out like sore thumbs. NO ONE is holding such delicate and damned important info that any agency would waste a second on watching, let alone removing.

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LOL I'm almost wetting myself with laughter here, Mod Carol goes running to Henry Deacon......."Henry sir, could you please spare a few moments and with your worldly wisdom as you sit on the throne of all worldly knowledge, the supreme knowledge, check out this upstart Barry King..." LOL LOL LOL OMG what next?
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Oh, and FOR THE RECORD.........I have security cameras front and rear, the phone automatically records all calls and logs them..... a practise put in place since 1994.............

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im somwhat confused what your last post had to do with the subject at hand.
sorry perhaps i missed somthing
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Take it from me, there is no one here at these forums important enough to take out, too many paranoid, delusional and fantasy prone individuals. They stick out like sore thumbs. NO ONE is holding such delicate and damned important info that any agency would waste a second on watching, let alone removing.

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I kinda disagree if one percent of people hear know somthing O.G.A. would be here watching maybe even watching the watcher

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Thankyou Dave but you unfortunately have not been on the receiving end of muck flinging and demands bordering on fanaticism. Doubt what you like, too much is on offer but I cannot be bothered, keep your ego nonsense to yourself as well. Only one ego tripper here, thats egg. What in hell is Egg supposed to know? Whats his disclosure all about? Have you any idea or just simply following him?. There MIGHT be experiencers here with some valuable data but they are pushed out of the way by egocentric nutbars wishing to get their posts seen. I have been very civil, very courteous and friendly in my association here but have received of late nothing but annoyance, disrespect, discourtesey, civility has been lacking too. Been accused of having something to do with the ramblings of nutbars yelling and screaming someone was out to get them. Been called a fake by someone I'm afraid holds way too high opinion of himself, and he too could just as easily be a fake, a phony. Obviously disclosure of a higher level is not for you here at Avalon just yet. To all the genuine friends I've made since I arrived here, keep well, keep pursuing your truths, to all the nutbars and troublemakers, ****stirrers and followers I can say get a life and go to hell. Something must have worked right for almost 50,000 hits!! Some of you deserve ignorance as you are ignorant. Even though when I leave I will not be able to respond to anyones posts, and there is bound to be many petty little guttersnipe posting after this. BUT I will still see, watch, what goes on here. If not me personally then LOL another watcher. Goodnight and goodbye.

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Thankyou Dave but you unfortunately have not been on the receiving end of muck flinging and demands bordering on fanaticism. Doubt what you like, too much is on offer but I cannot be bothered, keep your ego nonsense to yourself as well. Only one ego tripper here, thats egg. What in hell is Egg supposed to know? Whats his disclosure all about? Have you any idea or just simply following him?. There MIGHT be experiencers here with some valuable data but they are pushed out of the way by egocentric nutbars wishing to get their posts seen. I have been very civil, very courteous and friendly in my association here but have received of late nothing but annoyance, disrespect, discourtesey, civility has been lacking too. Been accused of having something to do with the ramblings of nutbars yelling and screaming someone was out to get them. Been called a fake by someone I'm afraid holds way too high opinion of himself, and he too could just as easily be a fake, a phony. Obviously disclosure of a higher level is not for you here at Avalon just yet. To all the genuine friends I've made since I arrived here, keep well, keep pursuing your truths, to all the nutbars and troublemakers, ****stirrers and followers I can say get a life and go to hell. Something must have worked right for almost 50,000 hits!! Some of you deserve ignorance as you are ignorant. Even though when I leave I will not be able to respond to anyones posts, and there is bound to be many petty little guttersnipe posting after this. BUT I will still see, watch, what goes on here. If not me personally then LOL another watcher. Goodnight and goodbye.

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POSTING TO THE MODS FYI...

Hi again,

Hi all,

I posted to Watcher's thread today in answer to some of the questions being
made regarding proof. There is no way to substantiate or prove anything
that Barry has to say (or anyone else posting for him or using his ID).
This is also true of Henry Deacon by the way.

He or whoever is using his ID is posting interesting info and should be
allowed to continue to do so.

If he is unhappy with the skeptics I suggest we move him to his own area
where he or one mod he can agree to work with, can delete any postings they
don't like.

Other than that and short of asking him or others to leave I see no
recourse. And I would prefer to continue to let him reveal what he has to
reveal. This does not mean I agree with him but simply that his material is
interesting and well worth reading.

Best wishes,

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well Barry if your still reading this good

its still your thread your shout.

i have no idea what or who egg is but i get the feeling that he has had his fingernails chipped a few times ........... and as for following him ....honestly
yeah kinda ........because i like what he has to say ........he bollocked me upside down for a post i put about a local beat bobby .......... he was right and i was wrong had no right saying what i did ......i respected that but he did not have to and i could have got into some bother over it (was'nt malicious just a petty remark i made could have been construed as a threat)

write back Barry i don't want my post the last post !!!

why not PM Egg work it thru i am sure you gentlemen can do that
I can't stop a nuke or a Foriegn soldier putting a round thru me alien abduction or takeover A copper putting a baton over me bonce i have no resistance to EMP or CME asteroids and meteors will not bounce off me and i melt and drown like everybody else.

But forewarned by whistleblowers adding 2 and 2 connecting the spots listening to what this forum brings ...... will allow me to get my family to safety.....i'm knackered but at least i can give them a head start, Egg put me right once he also showed me a fantastic bit of kit (surviival aid a water filtration purifier) ............ that good i bought one bugger the gas bill this month ........ thats solved the water problem, i am stocking food been doing it for a month now as we head towards August September time, hope i don't need to

this forum brings change and with this change brings wisdom, dare i say it (coz i am a typical northern bloke) love and harmony. this forum brings together like minded people but we all bring different experiences to the table and we are all different in our approach but we are all kicking at the same goalmouth............its just that a few hit the posts a few wide and some into the street behind the stands!!!! thats life.

god me eyes are streaming with these lower case!!!

anyhow i need a couple a painkillers me backs killing me

don't let me down i wanna get my family away from ground zero if i can even if it is breathing for another 24 hours. information is not the same as disinformation and disinformation is sometimes better than noinformation

come on people kick yer footballs not each others !!!!!!!!!!!!

love and respect dave
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