Vitamin D's role (for epidemic influenza)

Anchor · 04-30-2009, 11:14 AM

I am not posting this because of Swine Flu, however, the stories around have certainly got people thinking about flu epidemics, even if this one turns out not to be real, there is always a chance that something natural may come up.

Henry Deacon mentioned something about Vitamin D being useful for us - I cant remember the exact quote, but David Wilcock's recent blog also reminded me about it.

Today I saw this referred to on the SurvivalBlog.com (itself a depressing but highly informative blog)

In depth article on Vitamin D's role in nailing flu like infections

http://www.medicalnewstoday.com/articles/51913.php

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Jacqui D · 04-30-2009, 02:01 PM

Yes Anchor i saw this too, i will watch your link interested to see how this helps and aids the flu symtoms.
Good idea to go out there and get some before it gets bought up.

alyscat · 04-30-2009, 03:01 PM

D3 is better than D2 (D2 is the precursor that turns into D3 in the blood) - it is usually suspended in oil. If you've had gastric bypass or have colitis, or similar dysfunction where you don't absorb oil, it's better to do the dry form. You can get the dry form from the manufacturer directly (not overly expensive) -

http://bio-tech-pharm.com/

Most everyone is short vit D, which is actually a hormone.

I can recommend bio-tech highly.
alys

nagual · 04-30-2009, 05:43 PM

The sun is our most powerful source of vitamin D.

Exposure to sunlight trigger vitamin D synthesis in the skin.

Only a few foods naturally contain significant amounts of vitamin D, including fatty fish and fish oils.

Cod Liver Oil
Salmon
Sardines
Liver
Egg

Jacqui D · 04-30-2009, 06:22 PM

Very true Nagual but sadly in the UK we don't get enough of it.

Anchor · 05-01-2009, 12:07 AM

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Originally Posted by Jacqui D

Very true Nagual but sadly in the UK we don't get enough of it.

And in Australia the government went mad with thier sun causes skin cancer and got everyone to "Slip Slap Slop" vast amounts of re-packaged industrial waste otherwise known as SPF-30+ suncream on thier bodies to stop sunburn.

The consequence over time now being that Australia has one of the highest levels of Vitamin D deficiency in the 1st world countries.

Additionally, sunnies (sun-glasses) are worn by huge numbers of people here even whent he sun isnt shining - which means that their opic nerves are not being stimulated by full spectrum sun-light which can lead to pineal gland not working optimally (in its higher context).

Gotta love the governments of the free worlds.

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Dantheman62 · 05-01-2009, 12:53 AM

I've been taking fish oil pills for a long time now, the brand is...NatureMade.......
1200mg.... omega-3...soft gels.

2 soft gels=2400mg Fish Oil Concentrate
Omega-3 Fatty Acids( EPA,DHA and other Omega-3) = 720mg
Contains Fish ( Anchovy, Sardine) and soy.

But it doesn't say anything about vitamin D on the label,
so am I to assume it doesn't have any because it's not listed?,
or should I assume it does have vitamin D because of the Anchovy/Sardine ingredients?

If anybody can answer that, LOL, thanks!

J_rod7 · 05-01-2009, 01:41 AM

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Hey Yo there Dantheman,

If the label does NOT SAY it contains Vitamin D, then it DOES NOT have any. Therapeutic quantities of any factors must be declared, or there would be huge lawsuits from people with certain allergies, and the FDA would also pull them off the market. The Omega-3 is an excellent idea, especially for the DHA. The Human Brain is built-up from high amounts of DHA.

I use a Fish-oil extract where DHA is the primary factor, plus three tablespoons per day of Flaxseed-oil with Lignins (primary Omega-3). Also include Gamma-E complex at 400- to 800-IU per day (antioxidant, & protects other fatty-acid factors), Vitamin D-3 at 5000 IU, Beta-Carotene at 25,000 IU, AND CoEnzyme Q10 (CoQ10) at 400 units, altogether with Choline 500-mg (a B-complex factor). This produces a SYNERGISTIC compounding in the body for maximum immunity.

Anchor,
You mentioned Henry Deacon, which triggered my memory too. Was either Henry or Dan Burisch said something about Vitamin D-3 protecting the Telomere strands at the ends of the DNA. This results in a greater longevity of the Cells, consequently a longer life-span. The 5,000 IU intake level was also the range for this. Anyway, definitely recommended NOW before the FLU gets ya, and continue for all the other benefits.

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Dantheman62 · 05-01-2009, 01:58 AM

Thanks Jrod7, yeah that's what I thought, I also bought 1000mg vitamin C, and should've looked for the D3, I'll go back tomorrow!

Anchor · 05-01-2009, 04:29 AM

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Originally Posted by J_rod7

Was either Henry or Dan Burisch said something about Vitamin D-3 protecting the Telomere strands at the ends of the DNA. This results in a greater longevity of the Cells, consequently a longer life-span. The 5,000 IU intake level was also the range for this. Anyway, definitely recommended NOW before the FLU gets ya, and continue for all the other benefits.

Sorry I dont recall anything other than him stressing that it was a very valuable supplement based on the future as he saw it.

When I don't get enough sun I take supplements - luckily D supplements here are quite cheap.

I liked your list. Each persons situation is going to be different, and one should take thier own council. For example I used to take CoQ10 but stopped because my higher self said not to bother as I didn't need it and its expensive - however I ended up taking Ginko/Hawthorne - ha ha, dont even really know why

My daily supplements are currently Vit-C (500mg) (when not doing MMS), Vit-D(1000IU), Vit-E (400IU), Seleniumn (150mg), Potassium/Magnesium 50mg each (not going to continue though based on my new diet which is K/Mg rich - just finishing what I have) Hawthorn extract (capsule), Ginko (capsule), Olive leaf extract (5ml).

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elsinorelore · 05-01-2009, 04:51 AM

hey there! Great thread! I was wondering if any of you might happen to know if a person is taking D 3, should they also be taking either Colloidal Silver or Gold too, or does the D 3 take care of it where the others arent needed in addition? (hope that makes sense?) OR, if you are on Colloidal Silver, or Gold, do you not need to take D 3??? Thanks, elsi

Anchor · 05-02-2009, 10:33 AM

I have never read any verifiable information about colloidal gold. This seems like a new fad to me. Pure Gold does not react with much so chemically it wont be much use, however there may be more going on there than I know. Does anyone know for sure about colloidal gold (or platinum for that matter).

Colloidal silver on the other hand is based on long observations about silver's anti-bacterial effects and lots of good anecdotal "research" out there. I have not taken any, but I have some 14 gauge 99.999% pure silver rods ready to make some up in an emergency - it is very good for topical use for preventing infections in wounds - and you can make liters upon liters of the stuff quite easily once you know how (there are good threads on this forum about this already).

Usually health is a holistic thing that needs more than one improvement. There isn't a single thing you can do which will do it all for you.

1) Get your BMI to the normal range - for once this is a some establishment medical advice I can agree with. Regrettable I have 12Kg to go

2) Really the best way to improve D3 is the sun. Supplements are for lazy people or people who cant get out there much.

3) D3 is part of a balanced set of reactions in the body. (PTH, Calcium, Vit D - see http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Parathyroid_hormone for more info)

I think if you were going to take D3, then this would be independent of any decision you may make about internal use of colloidal silver.

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alyscat · 05-02-2009, 12:34 PM

D3 does not supplement colloidal silver. They do different things. And today, using the sun for your D3 might not be the best idea. I've had docs tell me, oh, get 10 minutes a day on your face and chest, that will be fine. Or other docs say, get 20 minutes a day. They don't know, and the only way you can tell is by blood tests. And what has been written is that most people have deficiencies. You need D3 along with calcium to make your bones strong. (Elevated PTH is an indicator that you're pulling calcium from your bones to keep your calcium levels constant in the blood - it works within a very narrow range.)

However, the sun has changed. Where it used to be yellow, it's now white and HOT, even when the temp reads 50 degrees, if I'm in direct sunlight, it's hot. I no longer trust it. I never wore sunglasses, never needed to. Last year I noticed that I could no longer look up or straight ahead in the summer, that I had to walk with my eyes down.

Take the info for what it's worth, but it's my experience.
alys

04-30-2009, 11:14 AM	#1
Anchor Avalon Senior Member Join Date: Sep 2008 Location: Sydney, NSW, Australia Posts: 2,280	Vitamin D's role (for epidemic influenza) I am not posting this because of Swine Flu, however, the stories around have certainly got people thinking about flu epidemics, even if this one turns out not to be real, there is always a chance that something natural may come up. Henry Deacon mentioned something about Vitamin D being useful for us - I cant remember the exact quote, but David Wilcock's recent blog also reminded me about it. Today I saw this referred to on the SurvivalBlog.com (itself a depressing but highly informative blog) In depth article on Vitamin D's role in nailing flu like infections http://www.medicalnewstoday.com/articles/51913.php A..

04-30-2009, 02:01 PM	#2
Jacqui D Avalon Senior Member Join Date: Sep 2008 Location: Kent,England Posts: 1,267	Re: Vitamin D's role (for epidemic influenza) Yes Anchor i saw this too, i will watch your link interested to see how this helps and aids the flu symtoms. Good idea to go out there and get some before it gets bought up.

04-30-2009, 03:01 PM	#3
alyscat Avalon Senior Member Join Date: Sep 2008 Location: Washington state Posts: 743	Re: Vitamin D's role (for epidemic influenza) D3 is better than D2 (D2 is the precursor that turns into D3 in the blood) - it is usually suspended in oil. If you've had gastric bypass or have colitis, or similar dysfunction where you don't absorb oil, it's better to do the dry form. You can get the dry form from the manufacturer directly (not overly expensive) - http://bio-tech-pharm.com/ Most everyone is short vit D, which is actually a hormone. I can recommend bio-tech highly. alys

04-30-2009, 05:43 PM	#4
nagual Avalon Senior Member Join Date: Mar 2009 Location: Europe Posts: 206	Re: Vitamin D's role (for epidemic influenza) The sun is our most powerful source of vitamin D. Exposure to sunlight trigger vitamin D synthesis in the skin. Only a few foods naturally contain significant amounts of vitamin D, including fatty fish and fish oils. Cod Liver Oil Salmon Sardines Liver Egg

04-30-2009, 06:22 PM	#5
Jacqui D Avalon Senior Member Join Date: Sep 2008 Location: Kent,England Posts: 1,267	Re: Vitamin D's role (for epidemic influenza) Very true Nagual but sadly in the UK we don't get enough of it.

05-01-2009, 12:53 AM	#7
Dantheman62 Avalon Senior Member Join Date: Sep 2008 Location: So. Cal. U.S. Posts: 4,205	Re: Vitamin D's role (for epidemic influenza) I've been taking fish oil pills for a long time now, the brand is...NatureMade....... 1200mg.... omega-3...soft gels. 2 soft gels=2400mg Fish Oil Concentrate Omega-3 Fatty Acids( EPA,DHA and other Omega-3) = 720mg Contains Fish ( Anchovy, Sardine) and soy. But it doesn't say anything about vitamin D on the label, so am I to assume it doesn't have any because it's not listed?, or should I assume it does have vitamin D because of the Anchovy/Sardine ingredients? If anybody can answer that, LOL, thanks!

05-01-2009, 01:41 AM	#8
J_rod7 Avalon Senior Member Join Date: Sep 2008 Location: Florida, USA Posts: 301	Re: Vitamin D's role (for epidemic influenza) ***** * * Hey Yo there Dantheman, If the label does NOT SAY it contains Vitamin D, then it DOES NOT have any. Therapeutic quantities of any factors must be declared, or there would be huge lawsuits from people with certain allergies, and the FDA would also pull them off the market. The Omega-3 is an excellent idea, especially for the DHA. The Human Brain is built-up from high amounts of DHA. I use a Fish-oil extract where DHA is the primary factor, plus three tablespoons per day of Flaxseed-oil with Lignins (primary Omega-3). Also include Gamma-E complex at 400- to 800-IU per day (antioxidant, & protects other fatty-acid factors), Vitamin D-3 at 5000 IU, Beta-Carotene at 25,000 IU, AND CoEnzyme Q10 (CoQ10) at 400 units, altogether with Choline 500-mg (a B-complex factor). This produces a SYNERGISTIC compounding in the body for maximum immunity. Anchor, You mentioned Henry Deacon, which triggered my memory too. Was either Henry or Dan Burisch said something about Vitamin D-3 protecting the Telomere strands at the ends of the DNA. This results in a greater longevity of the Cells, consequently a longer life-span. The 5,000 IU intake level was also the range for this. Anyway, definitely recommended NOW before the FLU gets ya, and continue for all the other benefits. * * *****

05-01-2009, 01:58 AM	#9
Dantheman62 Avalon Senior Member Join Date: Sep 2008 Location: So. Cal. U.S. Posts: 4,205	Re: Vitamin D's role (for epidemic influenza) Thanks Jrod7, yeah that's what I thought, I also bought 1000mg vitamin C, and should've looked for the D3, I'll go back tomorrow!

05-01-2009, 04:51 AM	#11
elsinorelore Avalon Senior Member Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: Switzerland Posts: 209	Re: Vitamin D's role (for epidemic influenza) hey there! Great thread! I was wondering if any of you might happen to know if a person is taking D 3, should they also be taking either Colloidal Silver or Gold too, or does the D 3 take care of it where the others arent needed in addition? (hope that makes sense?) OR, if you are on Colloidal Silver, or Gold, do you not need to take D 3??? Thanks, elsi

05-02-2009, 10:33 AM	#12
Anchor Avalon Senior Member Join Date: Sep 2008 Location: Sydney, NSW, Australia Posts: 2,280	Re: Vitamin D's role (for epidemic influenza) I have never read any verifiable information about colloidal gold. This seems like a new fad to me. Pure Gold does not react with much so chemically it wont be much use, however there may be more going on there than I know. Does anyone know for sure about colloidal gold (or platinum for that matter). Colloidal silver on the other hand is based on long observations about silver's anti-bacterial effects and lots of good anecdotal "research" out there. I have not taken any, but I have some 14 gauge 99.999% pure silver rods ready to make some up in an emergency - it is very good for topical use for preventing infections in wounds - and you can make liters upon liters of the stuff quite easily once you know how (there are good threads on this forum about this already). Usually health is a holistic thing that needs more than one improvement. There isn't a single thing you can do which will do it all for you. 1) Get your BMI to the normal range - for once this is a some establishment medical advice I can agree with. Regrettable I have 12Kg to go 2) Really the best way to improve D3 is the sun. Supplements are for lazy people or people who cant get out there much. 3) D3 is part of a balanced set of reactions in the body. (PTH, Calcium, Vit D - see http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Parathyroid_hormone for more info) I think if you were going to take D3, then this would be independent of any decision you may make about internal use of colloidal silver. A..

05-02-2009, 12:34 PM	#13
alyscat Avalon Senior Member Join Date: Sep 2008 Location: Washington state Posts: 743	Re: Vitamin D's role (for epidemic influenza) D3 does not supplement colloidal silver. They do different things. And today, using the sun for your D3 might not be the best idea. I've had docs tell me, oh, get 10 minutes a day on your face and chest, that will be fine. Or other docs say, get 20 minutes a day. They don't know, and the only way you can tell is by blood tests. And what has been written is that most people have deficiencies. You need D3 along with calcium to make your bones strong. (Elevated PTH is an indicator that you're pulling calcium from your bones to keep your calcium levels constant in the blood - it works within a very narrow range.) However, the sun has changed. Where it used to be yellow, it's now white and HOT, even when the temp reads 50 degrees, if I'm in direct sunlight, it's hot. I no longer trust it. I never wore sunglasses, never needed to. Last year I noticed that I could no longer look up or straight ahead in the summer, that I had to walk with my eyes down. Take the info for what it's worth, but it's my experience. alys