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Old 05-05-2009, 07:53 PM   #1
Malynda
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A 13th Amendment to the Constitution, ratified in 1810, called the "Titles of Nobility and Honour," no longer appears in the US Constitution? Is this true?
Quick search yielded this result...

Titles of Nobility Amendment
"If any citizen of the United States shall accept, claim, receive or retain, any title of nobility or honour, or shall, without the consent of Congress, accept and retain any present, pension, office or emolument of any kind whatever, from any emperor, king, prince or foreign power, such person shall cease to be a citizen of the United States, and shall be incapable of holding any office of trust or profit under them, or either of them." Wikipedia entry

Much more info if you follow the link, of course.
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Old 05-05-2009, 08:32 PM   #2
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Titles of Nobility Amendment
"If any citizen of the United States shall accept, claim, receive or retain, any title of nobility or honour, or shall, without the consent of Congress, accept and retain any present, pension, office or emolument of any kind whatever, from any emperor, king, prince or foreign power, such person shall cease to be a citizen of the United States, and shall be incapable of holding any office of trust or profit under them, or either of them." Wikipedia entry

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Okay, the Wikipedia entry says that it dates from 1810 but it was never ratified, whereas the video gives the same date but says it was ratified.

However, I guess the important thing is that the video states that after the Revolutionary War, in the Paris Peace Treaty of 1783, that the King of England was identified as the Prince of the United States and that the treaty contradicts the belief that America won the war. It says that the king retained his right to continue to receive payments for his business venture of colonizing America, and that we agreed to pay debts and reparations to the King of England. It says the 13th Amendment was passed to make the President subservient to the King of England.
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Old 05-05-2009, 08:40 PM   #3
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Okay, the Wikipedia entry says that it dates from 1810 but it was never ratified, whereas the video gives the same date but says it was ratified.

However, I guess the important thing is that the video states that after the Revolutionary War, in the Paris Peace Treaty of 1783, that the King of England was identified as the Prince of the United States and that the treaty contradicts the belief that America won the war. It says that the king retained his right to continue to receive payments for his business venture of colonizing America, and that we agreed to pay debts and reparations to the King of England. It says the 13th Amendment was passed to make the President subservient to the King of England.
I'm confused by the yes it was ratified, no it wasn't. I'm going to look into the Paris Peace Treaty and more on this amendment. Any info or sources you have would be great. Thanks for the discussion. I'm a bit angry at all this but that's a good thing I guess.

Any lawyers out there that can help translate legalese, pretty please?

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