Radiant zones and communities building..where are we up to ?

[WinterWolf]

I have not made any personal
attacks against you. My Comments ya on Darwinism, fearmongering,etc were just that. Comments. From your previous posts above what you have been speaking about did sound like Darwinism. ( Damn. Precious was supposed to be previous. typing on one's phone sucks at times. I have updated precious to previous).

A personsal attack would be me calling you for example a dumb idiot or
something.

I don't have time to address everything as I am at work.

Exposing my mask? What mask? I pose a bunch of questions and your replies are pretty much all alike.

My Wow to higher IQ was my amazement that you even brought Intelligence and religion in this. I am still shaking my head at that.

I'm not surprised at being openly attacked now. Ask enough irritating questions about what is going on and you get attacked.

I admire your determination to make me look bad. Good on you sport.

Gotta love it as now I am the fear mongerer. My co-workers are looking at me funny as I am laughing so hard.

Read some of the PDF stuff. I thought it was interesting.

Nannying people? Nah. Just shining a bug spotlight on things to see what is scurrying around. People can make their own informed choices from te resultant discourse. What I am doing is to generate discourse whether you like what is being asked.

Follow me trance like huh? I'd tell you to get lost. I don't need or want anyone to follow me around.

Matching my aggressiveness? Wow I didn't know I was being aggressive. Are you just a tad sensitive and touchy?

Biting rock? Herding sheep? Mmkay. If you say so.

Just how many times do you want me to say all I am doing is creating discourse and to present a dissenting view?

If all you have are yes people telling you what you want to hear, you leave yourself open to problems later if you do.

Lone wolf. Me? Laughable.

Do go hi five your buddies and pat yourself on the back as if you won something.

I didn't know I had a mask to expose. Damn. I better go hide and cower in the corner now.

Backing down? No just disgusted by the same rhetoric over and over and over again. I don't see the point in continuing.

Winter Wolf

Originally Posted by artvision

Wow. So now I am living in my own world? Do you resort to personal attacks when you can't think of anything better to say?

No, WinterWolf, I resort at personal attackes as much as you did.
Did you already forget the qulificatives of "darwinist", "hysteric" and "fear mongering"? Just look tree posts upstairs, in your comments. Seem very easy forgeting when is about you!

Talking to higher IQ people. Wow.

Look even you don't consider myself as higher IQ, is OK, it is only 131 on Tickle's IQ test, yes, not seems matching the reality as long as I'm answering you. You guessed, I'm sure, with your top IQ, that I'm continuing to answer just for the respect I have for this forum and for the people here you are not getting tired to mock and offend.

I laughed so hard at this entire post that I almost snorted my orange juice while I was drinking it and reading this.

It is your business that you laughed so hard, is good for the health, but anyway you didn't share with us what's your reasons for such laugh, as much as all discussion before you get with the boots in, seems very constructive and serious. No fun there. You just started with warnings, take care, so on so.. like people here are 5 years old and need a nanny to tell them how to behave. Not only that, but the people trying to contribute something, you make them indirectly, fear mongers and hysterics. I'm wondering what should we do, just you not laugh? Maybe to devour fascinated and in trance-like, your words of wisdom? Would then you more appreciated us? Or maybe then you would have been laugh snorting a barrel of orange juice, not only a glass, as you say. As a survival advice for you: when you read avalon forum, refrain from drinking liquids, seems very dangerous for your health

I have dealt with you with respect and you attack me. That's really good of you. I should give you a gold star.

Your comment on you are all far from the Jim Jones fall out right now. So are you saying there is potential for it?

Have you even read anything about Jonestown and the Agricultural Project? It all started out well and then descended into madness.

The respect you are talking about, from your word seems a vesuvius, but when you look in your posts, is very subtle to the point of not be detected; at least with our brains of low IQ, which you laugh at. This issue with Jonestown and with religious sects, seems far fetched for me to bring in discussion alegedly of what we have been spoken up to now, I think that you brought just you be able to fear mongering and intimidate more sensible persons here. This is the only reason you brought that subject! Seems you weren't interested in the topic per se. Be truthful with us and tell if you even have the curiosity to open the pdf with the visual chart of the Radiant Zones? If someone asks me, I would tell him, you didn't. Sorry if I'm wrong, but from what you said up to now, for me, didn't seemed has the slightest relation with topic, nicely brought by Mudra, wish to thank with this occasion.

I speak of caution for anyone who decides to join any community with the greatest of intentions.

Here's the nanny pitch again!

It isn't for me to decide for the viewers. All I am doing is putting in dissenting views to try and get total transparency on the Radiant Zone.

From your post, seem contrary with your affirmation, seems you want to decide. What to follow, what not worth follow; what is of good value, what is theoretical and so on...If your dissenting views relate with posting people's IQ, and people bilk others money, maybe you are right. When is about Radiant Zone, I didn't remain with some idea from you.

I am done with this whole debacle. You insult my intelligence and me with thus rhetoric.

Me too. Seems that when you see someone is matching your agresivity and is not intimidate easily, you decide to stop the fight and snickely attack somother time, when the ocassion is right. I'm sure you will say no, to that!

Honestly I do not think you even know what I am about or am doing. I don't even know why I even bothered to lower my spiritual energy to match most on the board for...

Great, how yourself get the mask off from your face. Up to here you were nannying us, supposedly because of care for us, the poor people, maybe sheeple, you consider us, almost be hoarded by a virtual Avalonic Jim Jones, or a Koresh Lider Maximo, but now that you see you bite on rock, you back off.

The Mods can feel free to ban me if they like. Then again those who are following this thread will see that anyone playing devil's advocate or simply wishing to present a different view for fact finding will just be punished.

I think that as long this is the opinion of people here and of forum, they not banning you nor anyone else at least we maintain a decent tone, even we criticize some ideas, behavior or sometime peoples. Why, because we are not perfect beings and we have our pride, ego, selfishness, or instinct of survival. But this with moderation. Thank you for your feedback, really I appreciate even is more criticism in it, because there wouldn't be good, without existence of evil (not related with our discussion here)

Winter Wolf in service to the Creator.

I will end also this debate, because didn't advance the RZ issues, but talking too much to/about wolves here in the thread, I'm afraid not ending as a Lone Wolf!



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Agree with you for the saying, but here it was not the case, anybody leading anybody. We are all mature, well seasoned people, with our heads on our shoulders and I didn't feel somebody lead other to something, though a guidance should be in place, just for not loosing the final aim. Which I feel we start to loose. Therefore I kindly ask people start contributing, first to create the guiding lines of what we need to cover and then flesh it out with proper information rather than open philosophical dilemmas which were not solved for thousands of years before us, by even brighter beings that may have been existed up to now.

What do you say people?

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[artvision]

Originally Posted by WinterWolf

I have not made any personal
attacks against you. My Comments ya on Darwinism, fearmongering,etc were just that. Comments. From your precious posts above what you have been speaking about did sound like Darwinism.

A peronsal attack would be me calling you for example a dumb idiot or
something.

I don't have time to address everything as I am at work.

Exposing my mask? What mask? I pose a bunch of questions and your replies are pretty much all alike.

My Wow to higher IQ was m amazement that you even brought Intelligence and religion in this. I am still shaking my head at that.

I'm not surprised at being openly attacked now. Ask enough irritating questions about what is going on and you get attacked.

I admire your determination to make me look bad. Good on you sport.

Gotta love it as now I am the fear mongerer. My co-workers are looking at me funny as I am laughing so hard.

Read some of the PDF stuff. I thought it was interesting.

Nannying people? Nah. Just shining a bug spotlight on thngs to see what is scurrying around. People can make their own informed choices from te resultant discourse. What I am doing is to generate discourse whether you like what is being asked.

Follow me trance like huh? I'd tell you to get lost. I don't need or want anyone to follow me around.

Matching my agressiveness? Wow I didn't know I was being agressiveness. Are you just a tad sensitive and touchy?

Biting rock? Herding sheep? Mmkay. If you say so.

Just how many times do you want me to say all I am doing is creatng discourse and to present a dissenting view?

If all you have are yes people telling you what you want to hear, you leave yourself open to problems later if you do.

Lone wolf. Me? Laughable.

Do go hi five your buddies and pat yourself on the back as if you won something.

I didn't know I had a mask to expose. Damn. I better go hide and cower in the corner now.

Backing down? No just disgusted by the same rhetoric over and over and over again. I don't see the point in continuing.

Winter Wolf

Look Winterwolf, I didn't reffer to you, I said that by debating so much with you, i will be the black sheep, so in other words the Lone Wolf, just because people tend to put distance between them and fight-full people, the Lone Wolf was not about you!

Is ok you laugh about, no problem we need to laugh a bit, because life is very tense for us...

I didn't want attack you or anything, maybe I didn't quite understand your words entirely and yes you are right I'm touchy lately, sorry for that also my wife is complaining sometime.

Let's forget this nonsense and if you read what I wrote and find interesting, well, I will try to make it as an outliner, in text form. I do not want to insist, but because I saw here people speaking about meditation, I tried to come into help, you know, you can put these maps on a paper and mediate on it.

Sorry it was maybe silly from my side, as I should bring the normal text form for information. I'm working on that and after finishing I put here on this thread.

Wish you all the best and I told you that I respect people have no same ideas as me. If everybody would have same ideas, from where to come evolution? Right?

All the best for you!