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Old 09-08-2009, 07:48 PM   #1
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What he tells me doesn't make me mad it just helps me to prepare for what is coming.
From where I am standing I see it as possitive energy
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Old 09-08-2009, 07:51 PM   #2
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What he tells me doesn't make me mad it just helps me to prepare for what is coming.
From where I am standing I see it as possitive energy
That is good, but you might be in the minority of the reactions of his listeners. Standing outside of the bilderberger meetings screaming at these people in a fit of rage may not be the best example to set for those more impressionable then you are.
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Old 09-08-2009, 07:55 PM   #3
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Yes at first people will be angry that they have been lied to but I believe this will be the catalyst for change.


Anger is a powerful energy and when used to propel idea's is how they manifest into form for the good of humanity.

Gandhi, Martin Luther King, anyone who has been a proponent for a huge change in the world wasn't a little pansy, they directed their righteous anger towards the good.

I still believe that basic human decency and love will rule the day.
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Old 09-08-2009, 08:10 PM   #4
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Listening to the Alex Jones show now, he is stating that this is only the beginning of a huge, OPERATION, they have planned out to elicit this change

so that tptb are forced once and for all to address this issue

It is not only about 9-11 it is about all the laws that were implemented because of 9-11 that have taken away our freedoms



To me it is pure GENIUS

Not deceitful

Not stupid

Not irresponsible

Not giving power to tptb

Psy op vs Psy op, one for evil the other for the good of humanity

I believe it would behoove all of us to hop aboard the one for humanity because there is strength in numbers- no matter if you agree with how it is being implemented or not if the end result is FREEDOM for all then I am all over it!
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Old 09-08-2009, 08:20 PM   #5
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Just as T3J said, I too thougth of it as feeding them with the negative energy, but then I figured why not wake up more.

I am hoping for a big step in the right direction seeing as 9/11 is around the corner. He said Charlie will be on a couple of times this week


If just one of us reached one person and tell them to bring "love" into the world for peace it is worth it.
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Old 09-08-2009, 09:14 PM   #6
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I guess I get confused with this sometimes.

To bring about change, the anger that people feel towards tptb need to be directed in a positive way, for instance a peaceful revolution. ?

But also, giving our anger and throwing it directly at tptb I think might come right back to hurt us, since like attracts like? negative attracts negative? and so I do think that the anger that is enticed could or should be directed or transcended into a positive way.

I do hear Alex Jones rant so high sometimes with so much anger that it's almost sickening to listen to but that is also because there's an anger that I can relate to with Alex and it's not something I like in myself, because it's the dual aspect of my personality, but it is what it is. We all have it. I just prefer to channel it into meditation, or exercise, or release it.

There's something unhealthy about acting out our anger by sending hate and ill words or feelings towards others, even if it is tptb. I for one do feel anger, but then I try to release and then try to send love to them. I don't think someone likes what I'm doing because I get visits during sleep from entities, but guess what, I send them white light. I surround myself in white light and they immediately start to leave me when I do that.
It sounds crazy, but this is my experience.
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Old 09-08-2009, 09:33 PM   #7
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yes he does deb, you are correct. But I have learn to tone his yelling down. Mostly I read off his page, today is the first time I heard him

At least he is saying it needs to be a peaceful means of getting the attention of the president. He has changed his tone. So he has a big mouth, I guess some people get excited but his words were right on.

David Icke says to protest peacefully also. He doesnt yell and yes he has many people total respect.

Alex is a different type of person and he has many followers now a day.


Saying 9/11 was an inside job doesn't bring out as much anger as many think it does. People know in their hearts they just don't want to hear it said.

They turn their heads away saying Oh well, what can we do about it. We really mustn't continue to think that way. We must stand up and tell them enough any way we .

They do the same if you tell them there are aliens on this planet yet so many in here want the world to know the truth

Explain to me what the difference is, someone, anyone
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Old 09-08-2009, 10:20 PM   #8
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I think AJ fulfills a hugely necessary role at this time and he's quite the entertaining guy to do it!

As I mentioned earlier, my main concern is he takes a very material approach to a problem that goes deeper than the material. David Icke is understanding the solutions lie in consciousness more, but AJ has him on the show, and I'm a huge AJ fan, I just don't share his mindset about everything.

For a lot of people he's too fear based, and I get that... He's good for those who need to wake up and he's great for a certain audience. Everyone can get something from his news coverage. Keep up the good work AJ and may all of us critics start our own radio shows!
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Old 09-09-2009, 12:51 AM   #9
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It is not only about 9-11 it is about all the laws that were implemented because of 9-11 that have taken away our freedoms
Almost every law on the book was done for this purpose it started long before 9-11 . 9-11 was done to circumvent the Constitution the others were done to get you to give up your birth rights in exchange for Government privileges

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Old 09-09-2009, 02:23 AM   #10
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To me it is pure GENIUS!
Genius? Absolutely the opposite. It was sheer STUPIDITY! A HOAX!

http://www.infowars.com/twenty-minut...the-president/
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Reported by Charlie Sheen
Infowars
Tuesday, September 8, 2009
<......... story.....>
Author’s Note: What you have just read didn’t actually happen… yet.
This is an open letter to the President requesting a new investigation.
Charlie Sheen.
You don't succeed in getting the truth to come out by being a complete idiot. You don't succeed in getting average American's to consider the possibility that 911 was an inside job by making up hoaxes.

This was totally disgusting.

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Old 09-09-2009, 02:38 AM   #11
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Well I guess everyone doesnt feel the same as you do Kathy.

Did it get the worlds attention? I would say yes. We will not know the end results until later in the week

A hoax ? 9/11 was the hoax.............

I guess its anything goes when you are trying to save your world as you know it. Alex and Charley have that in the back of their minds. I can't put them down for that.

We are all of course entitled to our own and I thought it was more important to not critize someone for what they thought they needed to do to bring about the end results they wanted.
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Old 09-09-2009, 02:49 AM   #12
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I'm confused here. If the end justifies the means, then we could all just play the dirtiest game to get to the truth and it would be ok. Wouldn't that make us just like the "ills"?
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Old 09-09-2009, 02:59 AM   #13
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That is not how I see it. What is the hoax because he titled the letter, 20 minutes with the president. He clearly states at the end of the letter that this did not happen.

He said his purpose was to mislead the press and media into bringing it in the open so they would read the letter. The media called Alex while he was on the air, questioning the validity of Charlie even writing the letter. He did and it was his idea.

Where is it a hoax ? That is not saying the end justifies the means. There is no end to it

Do you think it made the press and media mad? Do we care?

Yes, it may of backfired.............All I'm saying is, put the blame where it belongs.

I'm not going to lose any sleep over it
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Old 09-09-2009, 03:08 AM   #14
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He clearly states at the end of the letter that this did not happen.
He stated this almost an hour after it was posted. That's wherein the hoax lies. In a time when people are screaming for the truth, I don't think it's a good idea to be deceitful. I get that it was all Sheen's idea but Alex Jones hopped on the bandwagon and chose to be the channel through which Sheen broadcasted. That's how he got caught up in all this.
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Old 09-09-2009, 03:27 AM   #15
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Well I guess everyone doesnt feel the same as you do Kathy.

Did it get the worlds attention? I would say yes. We will not know the end results until later in the week

A hoax ? 9/11 was the hoax.............

I guess its anything goes when you are trying to save your world as you know it. Alex and Charley have that in the back of their minds. I can't put them down for that.

We are all of course entitled to our own and I thought it was more important to not critize someone for what they thought they needed to do to bring about the end results they wanted.
You’re mixing up concepts here.

9/11 was not a hoax. 9/11 was a crime, and the individuals who foisted this crime on 3,000+ innocent Americans needs to be hung from the end of a rope. They should be tried in court like war criminals. And the persons responsible for 9/11 were the owners of the building and all those connected who plotted using demolition and a cover up to bring down the World Trade centers.

A hoax is by definition “An act, document or artifact intended to deceive or defraud.” That is exactly what Alex Jones and Charlie Sheen did.

My family taught me, and I taught my children to behave with honor. To tell the truth, and to seek the truth through honorable means. You don’t fight killing with killing. You don’t start city riots because you don’t like laws, or because you’re beat up on the street. You seek your justice in a court of law. You don’t steal from your neighbor because he steals from you. You don’t bomb City Hall because you don’t like their decisions.

Getting the truth out on 9/11 will only happen through responsible reporting and documentaries, and telling the truth as it really is.. over and over again.

People like Alex Jones and Charlie Sheen have made themselves look like fools… but I’m sure this isn’t the first time they’ve done that. The only educational thing that comes out of this is for people who know nothing about Alex and Charlie, to have learned a lesson here.

Did it get the world’s attention? Hardly so.
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Old 09-09-2009, 03:40 AM   #16
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Kathy I Beg to differ i thought it Would be ignored i was wrong Reuters has picked up this story
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Old 09-09-2009, 03:57 AM   #17
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Kathy I Beg to differ i thought it Would be ignored i was wrong Reuters has picked up this story

I posted this in another thread about this.

He sent press releases to various news agencies. One way to make sure the msm has the news.
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Old 09-09-2009, 04:15 AM   #18
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9-11 was a Hoax by definition


hoax
  
–noun
something intended to deceive or defraud: The Piltdown man was a scientific hoax.

Synonyms:
deception, fraud, fake, imposture, humbug.

verb (used with object)
to deceive by a hoax; hoodwink.



Any way you use it 9-11 was a Hoax
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Old 09-09-2009, 07:16 AM   #19
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If this gets people talking about 9-11 then it has to be a good thing.
I was telling my neighbour about Charlie Sheen speaking out but she had no idea that 9-11 was an inside job, didn't even know that people think it is ..
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Old 09-09-2009, 03:46 PM   #20
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If this gets people talking about 9-11 then it has to be a good thing.
I was telling my neighbour about Charlie Sheen speaking out but she had no idea that 9-11 was an inside job, didn't even know that people think it is ..
Exactly swanny....and why using an 'actor' is a brilliant way to bring out the message of 9-11 to those who would not otherwise seek out the Truth in the alternative news.

Now I hear Reuters picked up the story....mmm maybe not so far fetched or stupid as initially believed to be.
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Old 09-09-2009, 04:00 PM   #21
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Thank God that someone is going to check into this.

No matter how wrong some think it was, I'm very proud of those men for giving it a shot.

This needs to be brought to the attention of the world, before another one happens........
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Old 09-09-2009, 04:36 PM   #22
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This is a quoted comment from the ATS forum:

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"he's one of the most widely known men in the field it was utterly irresponsible of him and damages all of our credibility.

The only good that will come of this is that a Link for the keyword 'Alex Jones Hoax" has an ats thread at no 7 on Google at the moment so maybe some people will have a chance to enter an open and real (at times) discussion of issues that affect us all.

But for Millions the biggest name in the field is now a known Hoaxer

and the boy who cried wolf syndrome will now be in effect for many, many people at a time when things happen to be very serious.

It's a time right now for real (truth) when failure of people to be aware could lead to loss even deaths

What he did was foolish and irresponsible"
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Old 09-09-2009, 04:49 PM   #23
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I agree with the above , but what disturbs me more is the hostility towards those who do not agree with the majority here who think this is the magic answer to a very complex issue.
I'm for anything that works but lies added to more lies just doesnt cut it for me .
I have tirelessly worked on this and other related issues so I don't appreciate being told off for my opinion. I am entitled to it, just as you are to yours. Also this is not an American issue, its a global issue, and some of us not living within the US may just have another perspective on how this antic was percieved with maybe a less knee jerk reaction.
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Old 09-09-2009, 05:03 PM   #24
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Same here. I am entitled to my opinion and nothing that "others from other sites" will change my opinion. I will not be swayed.

I want justice for the people that suffered during the attack and the over 4000 afterwards that suffered terribly. What ever happens happen and if people go around saying its irresponsible, they need to say something a little more positive or quiet down. Lets make it positive
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Old 09-09-2009, 05:17 PM   #25
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Could I just point out that the date is the 11th of the 9th, why we are subjected to this 9/11 nonesense is beyond me.
The truth is that it's 11/9, if everyone has to descend into acronym slang.

Let's see who started this acronym box business, oh yes it was the nazi's, hmmmm.
By compartmentalising America they have been able to make good people do evil things without them knowing what they were doing.
Forgive them, for they knew not what they did.

Just concentrate on the overall adjenda, follow the gold.
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