Chicken or the Egg?

[100thmonkey]

Originally Posted by GoingToFast

Question : Do we really need to go through the "Apocalypse of Destruction" to get to the other side and in to the Higher Level , is that really necessary , isn't that concept just an illusion created by a corrupt church who only wanted to keep us in shackles and the only way of doing that was by fear.
Is that the only way forward ?

I wouldn't see it as anything religious, just the natural process of learning from mistakes.

It doesn't have to be apocalyptic, but as a species we won't learn without such mistakes.
Individuals may 'get it' and choose peace, but big groups, like those religions, countries or corporations, won't seriously change without learning harsh lessons first hand, rather than simply taking the warnings from the enlightened...

[Phr0z3n]

First off OP, you need to re-word your post so that it matches your poll question or vise-versa. They are two completely different questions.

I answered the poll question like this...
Quantum Mastery because I believe we are closer to this than spiritual mastery. Also because we created nuclear power and all its destruction before we even solved the worlds religious disputes so this means to me that unless we were "allowed" to discover nuclear power we discovered it on our own.

I would answer the post question like this...
1. Because we would not hoard the power of free energy and try to make a buck with it since all this negative way of thinking would have been eradicated or reduced. Free energy while enticing would not equal a world free of suffering and peace among people.

[WarriorServant]

Originally Posted by 100thmonkey

It doesn't have to be apocalyptic, but as a species we won't learn without such mistakes.

I am not a species. I am a spirit being in a vessel.

[100thmonkey]

Originally Posted by WarriorServant

I am not a species. I am a spirit being in a vessel.

Which is what I was getting at when I differentiated between individuals (who get it) and groups (who are much more stubborn).

My solution to the worlds problems is to wait for humans to evolve the next level where our psychic minds will all be in tune, and everyone can read everyone's mind. Maybe 2012 is that, or not.
There will be no more misunderstandings when everybody knows what everybody knows. There'll be no need for debates about politics or religion or conspiracy, everyone will know all the information and all the arguments and see what's the truth from all of it.

Maybe that's the spiritual enlightenment you're talking about in option 1? Which would mean that those who currently know about free energy would inevitably end up sharing that knowledge with everyone else whether they liked it or not.
Also, all religious people will be faced with knowledge of those who know the truth about how each religion is flawed, and all will fall, and humans be free.