Are you a part of the New Age Movement?

greybeard · 12-11-2009, 12:26 PM

I think 14 Chakras has it right.
Earth is the university of consciousness, (consciousness evolving to know itself) we are all in the same school all equal, some have missunderstood, some are in a state of avoidence, yet thats is as it is and as it should be. It could not be otherwise at this moment in time. Some may graduate in this life time ie become enlightened.
Awakening is part of the process but it is not the end product.
In my understanding the end product is knowing/being the One without a second. Non-duality. Ego transcended. That is the whole purpose of life-- the quest to find the answer to the question "What am I?" The droplet of Divinity which we are, realises itself with the Ocean.

Thats my take on it but the moment words are used the Truth of it is objective not subjective--- a point of view. Thats why those who are in that state say it can be pointed to but not spoken of. Words are not a subjective experience.

Chris
Namaste

WarriorServant · 12-11-2009, 12:30 PM

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Originally Posted by greybeard

I think 14 Chakras has it right.
Earth is the university of consciousness, (consciousness evolving to know itself)

This makes little to no sense to me.

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Originally Posted by greybeard

we are all in the same school all equal, some have missunderstood, some are in a state of avoidence, yet thats is as it is and as it should be. It could not be otherwise at this moment in time. Some may graduate in this life time ie become enlightened.

Yeah, then they have a mass coronary failure. Then what?

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Originally Posted by greybeard

Awakening is part of the process but it is not the end product.
In my understanding the end product is knowing/being the One without a second. Non-duality. Ego transcended. That is the whole purpose of life-- the quest to find the answer to the question "What am I?" The droplet of Divinity which we are, realises itself with the Ocean.

New age mumbo jumbo, imho.. makes no sense. Just sounds good.

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Originally Posted by greybeard

Thats my take on it but the moment words are used the Truth of it is objective not subjective--- a point of view. Thats why those who are in that state say it can be pointed to but not spoken of. Words are not a subjective experience.

greybeard · 12-11-2009, 12:54 PM

Dear WS
Sorry if Im not making sense to you.
What I have written is so far from New Age.
Its in the Bagahvad gita -- cant spell. Thousands of years before Christ.
Try reading "The Power of Now" by Eckhart Tolle which is a simple version of the oldest truth know to man.
One who is enlightened is very unlikly to have a heart attack because they have no stress. There brain waves are at a much slower cycle than us mere mortals.

I can only speak from personal experience which is that in meditation the mosy wonder full feeling of happiness -- bliss arose inside me, not caused by external. I felt loved as never before.
I was studying this subject long before so called New Age was even thought of, so have had every opportunity to find that these ancient enlightened teachers spoke the truth.

Respectfully
Chris

WarriorServant · 12-11-2009, 12:59 PM

I didn't say I don't understand it or don't know where it comes from. I said it doesn't make sense to me (on more than one level). It never did. Never will.

greybeard · 12-11-2009, 01:13 PM

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I didn't say I don't understand it or don't know where it comes from. I said it doesn't make sense to me (on more than one level). It never did. Never will.

Thats ok then Warrior Servant
Dosent make it true or untrue though any more than what you believe is true or un true.
Have you heard of Idra's dream?

Never is a very strong word.

What I believed would never change changed inspite of me. Lol

Anyway -- Have a nice day.

Regards Chris

Sarahmay · 12-11-2009, 02:18 PM

Way too broad a subject to deal with in your survey.

Do I believe that we are multidimensional entities? Yes.

Do I believe that there are lots of other-dimensional entities interested in and interacting or interfering with 3rd dimensional humans? Yes

Do I have an allegiance with any of these other dimensional entities, besides my higher self? A resounding no!

So I have no idea if I am part of the New Age movement or not.

WarriorServant · 12-11-2009, 02:22 PM

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Do I have an allegiance with any of these other dimensional entities, besides my higher self? A resounding no!

Then your life is in imminent danger.

And yes, you are in the New Age Movement, because you worship your "higher self".

That's about as "New Age" as you can get.

Sarahmay · 12-11-2009, 02:26 PM

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Originally Posted by WarriorServant

Then your life is in imminent danger.

And yes, you are in the New Age Movement, because you worship your "higher self".

That's about as "New Age" as you can get.

Oh, I get it now. This is a Jesus thing. Good luck with that.

Stardustaquarion · 12-11-2009, 05:03 PM

Ok, I not in the New Age movement but I know that we are multidimensional beings, what scientific argument you have that denies the existence of other dimensions?

It is very well to say Jesus said but it is not enought. Science and spirituality have to go hand in hand if there is going to be any real progress

For milenia people have been deceived and forced into dogma by the power of torture and deceit. For example, holy books (not mentioning anyone in particular) talk about many things fantastic but they prove nothing nor give true understanding about what are the universal laws we have to live in harmony with in order to expand our conscioussness...it is all just dogma.

Do as I tell you does not work for me

WarriorServant · 12-11-2009, 05:16 PM

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Originally Posted by Stardustaquarion

Ok, I not in the New Age movement but I know that we are multidimensional beings, what scientific argument you have that denies the existence of other dimensions?

It is very well to say Jesus said but it is not enought. Science and spirituality have to go hand in hand if there is going to be any real progress

For milenia people have been deceived and forced into dogma by the power of torture and deceit. For example, holy books (not mentioning anyone in particular) talk about many things fantastic but they prove nothing nor give true understanding about what are the universal laws we have to live in harmony with in order to expand our conscioussness...it is all just dogma.

Do as I tell you does not work for me

There is only one Holy Book worth reading.

Holy Bible (KJV).

THE eXchanger · 12-14-2009, 04:33 AM

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Originally Posted by WarriorServant

There is only one Holy Book worth reading.

Holy Bible (KJV).

Question,
what did people do,
before a bible was written ???

and ,

question 2)

what version do you accept as your gospel ???

cheers/susan

New Age Messiah · 12-14-2009, 06:50 AM

I think maybe I am the leader of the New Age Movement.

14 Chakras · 12-14-2009, 09:06 PM

I just want to quickly expand on a comment I made elsewhere on thread that closed ~ I said I don't support the majority of channeled info ~

My point is, the source of Truth lays within us. Information from outside of us will never be the full Truth, can be downright deceptive, or can be mixed ~ I'm not suggesting we should be fearful of channeled information, and I'm not suggesting that there are not messengers of the Divine in embodiment now who are bringing forth material from the Ascended Realms of Pure Being ~ I'm simply suggesting that one of the things we are here to do is to work on our discernment ~ always coming up higher.

Sometimes channeled information that is not the most Pure, will still help us break out of whatever mental box we may be stuck in ~ we should go where we feel inspired to go without fear, However the key is that we must always be willing to let go of a teaching or a teacher to come up higher ~ misplaced loyalty is attachment ~ what may have broken us out of a mental box we were stuck in ~ will simply create a new mental box, a new prison, if we are not willing to transcend it as well ~

So be loyal to no teaching, Be loyal to no belief ~ always be willing to transcend our mindset for higher Truth ~ Seek and we shall find ~ ask and it will Be given ~ the Truth will set us free to Be ~ not give us a new mind construct of reality that is simply a fancier way of looking at things but does not free us from non-being...

Espavo ~ 14

View Poll Results: Where do you stand?
I am a willing New Age Movement member - and proud of it.	9	20.00%
I am NOT in the New Age Movement, why do people keep insisting that I am?	10	22.22%
I know ALL about the New Age Movement, and I can't STAND it.	11	24.44%
What is the New Age Movement?	15	33.33%
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12-11-2009, 12:26 PM	#1
greybeard Avalon Senior Member Join Date: Sep 2008 Location: Inverness Scotland Posts: 924	Re: Are you a part of the New Age Movement? I think 14 Chakras has it right. Earth is the university of consciousness, (consciousness evolving to know itself) we are all in the same school all equal, some have missunderstood, some are in a state of avoidence, yet thats is as it is and as it should be. It could not be otherwise at this moment in time. Some may graduate in this life time ie become enlightened. Awakening is part of the process but it is not the end product. In my understanding the end product is knowing/being the One without a second. Non-duality. Ego transcended. That is the whole purpose of life-- the quest to find the answer to the question "What am I?" The droplet of Divinity which we are, realises itself with the Ocean. Thats my take on it but the moment words are used the Truth of it is objective not subjective--- a point of view. Thats why those who are in that state say it can be pointed to but not spoken of. Words are not a subjective experience. Chris Namaste

12-11-2009, 12:54 PM	#3
greybeard Avalon Senior Member Join Date: Sep 2008 Location: Inverness Scotland Posts: 924	Re: Are you a part of the New Age Movement? Dear WS Sorry if Im not making sense to you. What I have written is so far from New Age. Its in the Bagahvad gita -- cant spell. Thousands of years before Christ. Try reading "The Power of Now" by Eckhart Tolle which is a simple version of the oldest truth know to man. One who is enlightened is very unlikly to have a heart attack because they have no stress. There brain waves are at a much slower cycle than us mere mortals. I can only speak from personal experience which is that in meditation the mosy wonder full feeling of happiness -- bliss arose inside me, not caused by external. I felt loved as never before. I was studying this subject long before so called New Age was even thought of, so have had every opportunity to find that these ancient enlightened teachers spoke the truth. Respectfully Chris

12-11-2009, 12:59 PM	#4
WarriorServant Banned Join Date: Dec 2009 Posts: 209	Re: Are you a part of the New Age Movement? I didn't say I don't understand it or don't know where it comes from. I said it doesn't make sense to me (on more than one level). It never did. Never will.

12-11-2009, 02:18 PM	#6
Sarahmay Avalon Senior Member Join Date: Sep 2008 Location: Sedona Arizona Posts: 549	Re: Are you a part of the New Age Movement? Way too broad a subject to deal with in your survey. Do I believe that we are multidimensional entities? Yes. Do I believe that there are lots of other-dimensional entities interested in and interacting or interfering with 3rd dimensional humans? Yes Do I have an allegiance with any of these other dimensional entities, besides my higher self? A resounding no! So I have no idea if I am part of the New Age movement or not.

12-11-2009, 05:03 PM	#9
Stardustaquarion Avalon Senior Member Join Date: Dec 2009 Posts: 897	Re: Are you a part of the New Age Movement? Ok, I not in the New Age movement but I know that we are multidimensional beings, what scientific argument you have that denies the existence of other dimensions? It is very well to say Jesus said but it is not enought. Science and spirituality have to go hand in hand if there is going to be any real progress For milenia people have been deceived and forced into dogma by the power of torture and deceit. For example, holy books (not mentioning anyone in particular) talk about many things fantastic but they prove nothing nor give true understanding about what are the universal laws we have to live in harmony with in order to expand our conscioussness...it is all just dogma. Do as I tell you does not work for me

12-14-2009, 06:50 AM	#12
New Age Messiah Avalon Senior Member Join Date: Dec 2009 Location: Coeur d'Alene, ID Posts: 258	Re: Are you a part of the New Age Movement? I think maybe I am the leader of the New Age Movement.

12-14-2009, 09:06 PM	#13
14 Chakras Avalon Senior Member Join Date: May 2009 Location: Calgary, Canada Posts: 832	Re: Are you a part of the New Age Movement? I just want to quickly expand on a comment I made elsewhere on thread that closed ~ I said I don't support the majority of channeled info ~ My point is, the source of Truth lays within us. Information from outside of us will never be the full Truth, can be downright deceptive, or can be mixed ~ I'm not suggesting we should be fearful of channeled information, and I'm not suggesting that there are not messengers of the Divine in embodiment now who are bringing forth material from the Ascended Realms of Pure Being ~ I'm simply suggesting that one of the things we are here to do is to work on our discernment ~ always coming up higher. Sometimes channeled information that is not the most Pure, will still help us break out of whatever mental box we may be stuck in ~ we should go where we feel inspired to go without fear, However the key is that we must always be willing to let go of a teaching or a teacher to come up higher ~ misplaced loyalty is attachment ~ what may have broken us out of a mental box we were stuck in ~ will simply create a new mental box, a new prison, if we are not willing to transcend it as well ~ So be loyal to no teaching, Be loyal to no belief ~ always be willing to transcend our mindset for higher Truth ~ Seek and we shall find ~ ask and it will Be given ~ the Truth will set us free to Be ~ not give us a new mind construct of reality that is simply a fancier way of looking at things but does not free us from non-being... Espavo ~ 14