Thuban Q&A: (warning longer than normal posts here)

[abraxasinas]

Originally Posted by Phtha

Sigh... I always miss these 'interesting' threads and end up having to read pages upon all at once. Ah well lots of time.

Of what I read far, this is the only thing I do know for whatever reason.
I just wonder, where does the chain of 'agendas behind agendas' ever end?
Or as it appears from my current perspective, 'manipulation behind manipulation'.
Maybe the ending only exists... for those that don't have an agenda in the first place? I just want to be.

Love the info from everyone so far though, tis my type of joy ride, no matter where it leads.

Dear Phtha!

The agenda behind the agenda stops with the origin of all agendas, first cause, prime mover, the Alpha-Beginning, the Word (John.1.1) or a similar labeling being reached or 'discovered'.

This Prime mover is YOU in noTime, say defined in scientific terms as a quanta count of Now-Times of the order of 1.8 trillion trillion trillion trillion AGO.
1 second is made up of 3 thousand million billion trillion of those same timequanta.

AA

[Phtha]

Thanks, and yeah I figured such as every movement can be thought of as an agenda, but I was more referring to the manipulation of others to cause suffering. It seems to me that those involved in that game are in an endless circle until they themselves stop the manipulation. Above/below, manipulate/manipulated, kinda of like how we farm animals so we get farmed.


What type of being is a sphere of golden light (in this case about human size) that takes people to other planets in their dreams?

Maybe and odd question but.. Did Angelic beings or archetypes all incarnate here over the last few hundred years? Like Tesla, Rife, Reich, Leedskalnin ect, all within that small time period.. I wonder because assuming we are not being lied to here as well , each one seemed to bring powerful tools of engineering and of healing to our consciousness, both for our body (rife) and for Gaia (reich). If so... how come this all happened within that time period?

Originally Posted by abraxasinas

Dear Phtha!

The agenda behind the agenda stops with the origin of all agendas, first cause, prime mover, the Alpha-Beginning, the Word (John.1.1) or a similar labeling being reached or 'discovered'.

This Prime mover is YOU in noTime, say defined in scientific terms as a quanta count of Now-Times of the order of 1.8 trillion trillion trillion trillion AGO.
1 second is made up of 3 thousand million billion trillion of those same timequanta.

AA

[abraxasinas]

Originally Posted by Phtha

Thanks, and yeah I figured such as every movement can be thought of as an agenda, but I was more referring to the manipulation of others to cause suffering. It seems to me that those involved in that game are in an endless circle until they themselves stop the manipulation. Above/below, manipulate/manipulated, kinda of like how we farm animals so we get farmed.


What type of being is a sphere of golden light (in this case about human size) that takes people to other planets in their dreams?

This is your own merkabah Phtah with a diameter the Sqrt(5)=X+Y for Y the Golden Mean and X=Phi and encompassing the Pythagorean Octagon.

Maybe and odd question but.. Did Angelic beings or archetypes all incarnate here over the last few hundred years? Like Tesla, Rife, Reich, Leedskalnin ect, all within that small time period.. I wonder because assuming we are not being lied to here as well , each one seemed to bring powerful tools of engineering and of healing to our consciousness, both for our body (rife) and for Gaia (reich). If so... how come this all happened within that time period?

You may term these identities as angelic beings or as alien walk-ins or as inspired humanoids. They all are Rememberers and brought their knowledge and experiences under the difficulties and individual encumbrances encountered by the human incarnation.

All are souls and shards of the Creator and just to BE in human incarnation to experience physical separation of the unifying spirit represents a most honourable act for the 'recallers' to engage in.

The 3D human space embodiment is rather like an imprisonment for the soul; therefore you sleep and dream and therefore the incarnations have continued in the linear sense, expecting the graduation of the 3D vessel into its 4D expression.
Then the soul's journeys and experiences in embodiment will no longer be experienced as imprisonment; yet the soul's desires to partake in the physical sensations can continue.

Glorious adventures await the hybrid starhuman embodiments.

AA

[Unified Serenity]

This post by 777 is most telling numerically and symbolism in media about some interesting names, Pi, and 11:11. It is very telling about Abraxas.

http://projectavalon.net/forum/showp...postcount=1902

Unified Serenity

[BROOK]

Originally Posted by Unified Serenity

This post by 777 is most telling numerically and symbolism in media about some interesting names, Pi, and 11:11. It is very telling about Abraxas.

http://projectavalon.net/forum/showp...postcount=1902

Unified Serenity

This is some interesting information....the numerology is outstanding

[mntruthseeker]

Originally Posted by BROOK

This is some interesting information....the numerology is outstanding

777s mind never seizes to amaze me. Thank you for posting that Brooks, I was actually waiting for such things to start popping out.

I hope that the people that are reading this thread take the time to read it also

Blessings

[BROOK]

Originally Posted by mntruthseeker

777s mind never seizes to amaze me. Thank you for posting that Brooks, I was actually waiting for such things to start popping out.

I hope that the people that are reading this thread take the time to read it also

Blessings

Very enlightening indeed...we can thank Unified Serenity for finding it, and posting the link..Thanks Unified

[BlackLight43]

Thank you Abraxa for continuing this thread...so glad I asked for more!

Blessings

[abraxasinas]

Originally Posted by BlackLight43

Thank you Abraxa for continuing this thread...so glad I asked for more!

Blessings

You are welcome BlackLight.
Your naming bespeaks of a greater spiritual awareness than many have attained so far.
As you may have observed, I am concentrating my participation in this forum to this thread.
You can however find continuity of the thread you commented upon in this link:

http://tonyb.freeyellow.com/id163.html

The following might also interest you.
ISAAC NEWTON'S ALCHEMY AND EZEKIEL'S TIMELINE TO 2012

Newton's Dream Realised and the Completion of Scriptural Prophetic Archetypology to enable Universal Reconfiguration



http://tonyb.freeyellow.com/id157.html


You carry a great harmony within you, even with your 66 vibration, signifying FREEDOM=6+18+5+5+4+15+13 for this year 2010.

Blessed Be, in brotherhood!

Abraxas Anthony

[ewhite]

Originally Posted by BROOK

Very enlightening indeed...we can thank Unified Serenity for finding it, and posting the link..Thanks Unified

Good information indeed, I am not quite sure how it relates to the rest of this thread other than to take fire at the OP though. I feel that link is indeed a worthy topic for a separate thread entirely.

I really do not want to see Avalon go down the same path as sites like ATS , let us all let go of our ego, if it resonates contribute, if not let us move on.


Namaste

-E

[eleni]

Originally Posted by ewhite

Good information indeed, I am not quite sure how it relates to the rest of this thread other than to take fire at the OP though. I feel that link is indeed a worthy topic for a separate thread entirely.

I really do not want to see Avalon go down the same path as sites like ATS , let us all let go of our ego, if it resonates contribute, if not let us move on.


Namaste

-E

Agreed, I'm sure Abrax being as smart as he is- knows exactly the numerology connected and as such probably designed it that way (his name) for who knows what reasons. Maybe he can explain.

Abrax, what is your opinion of John Dee's Monas Hieroglyphica/Hieroglyphic Monad?

[mntruthseeker]

I doubt very much that the information that Brooks provided us with, in any way shape or form, indicated that she was putting anyone down.

No one insinuated that Abraxas was not knowledgable.

Ewhite, this is not ATS and I feel that the people that have been here at this forum have the upper most respect for all the people.

Anyone that is following a thread is entitled to their opinion and I didnt feel it was disrespectful. What it was, was encouraging to see that those of us that have our doubts on the meanings of any one of these postings, could actually feel that we are not alone with those doubts. There is 2 sides of every story, right ?

Isnt that what a forum is all about ? So as far as I can see, EGO was not any part of the message brought over................777's message was brilliant and as I have followed 777s work for over a year, I know that 777 is never disresptful but instead absolutely brilliant. Nothing wrong with Brooks bringing it over here.

[ewhite]

Originally Posted by mntruthseeker

I doubt very much that the information that Brooks provided us with, in any way shape or form, indicated that she was putting anyone down.

No one insinuated that Abraxas was not knowledgable.

Ewhite, this is not ATS and I feel that the people that have been here at this forum have the upper most respect for all the people.

Anyone that is following a thread is entitled to their opinion and I didnt feel it was disrespectful. What it was, was encouraging to see that those of us that have our doubts on the meanings of any one of these postings, could actually feel that we are not alone with those doubts. There is 2 sides of every story, right ?

Isnt that what a forum is all about ? So as far as I can see, EGO was not any part of the message brought over................777's message was brilliant and as I have followed 777s work for over a year, I know that 777 is never disresptful but instead absolutely brilliant. Nothing wrong with Brooks bringing it over here.

Agreed mn, and I am dearly sorry if I offended you in any way. 777's info is /was brilliant. My only point was this thread is named "Thuban Q&A," that was neither. The OP wether right, wrong, misguided or whatever has put forth a ton of effort and answered a TON of questions and has been very welcoming.

I mean no disrespect to you, Brooks or anyone else trust me when I say this. I am truly sorry

What is great about this place is there is really no "hijacking" you know, everyone on here seems to be well on their path and I enjoy it very much being able to discern topics on our own without being called a loon or satan or what have you.

Keep up the good work and again I meant no disrespect to anyone.

-E

[abraxasinas]

Originally Posted by eleni

Agreed, I'm sure Abrax being as smart as he is- knows exactly the numerology connected and as such probably designed it that way (his name) for who knows what reasons. Maybe he can explain.

Abrax, what is your opinion of John Dee's Monas Hieroglyphica/Hieroglyphic Monad?

Hi Eleni!

We are in agreement with John Dee's Hieroglyphia. Its symbolism is reassigned to the Mesopotamian Mazzaroth or Zodiac and the general 'thrust' of John Dee's work engages the 'Mystical Alchemy', i.e. the 'Heavenly Wedding of the Opposites' and leading to the 'Thuban Dragonomy' of the Androgenization.

AA

[eleni]

Originally Posted by abraxasinas

Hi Eleni!

We are in agreement with John Dee's Hieroglyphia. Its symbolism is reassigned to the Mesopotamian Mazzaroth or Zodiac and the general 'thrust' of John Dee's work engages the 'Mystical Alchemy', i.e. the 'Heavenly Wedding of the Opposites' and leading to the 'Thuban Dragonomy' of the Androgenization.

AA

Thank you Abraxasinas!

[wilsonericq7]

Dear Abrax,

My intention is to clarify our path as a group by first resolving what holds us back as individuals.

In a balanced and unchallenged 3D experience (Eden) the mental and physical platforms are but mirrors of each other through the emotional platform experienced in real time.

The emotional platform is the communication field between platforms, a checklist of sorts. In the example below, the experience is harmonious and without catalyst/action.





Thoughts through feelings become things | Things through feelings reflect thoughts.



In my humble recollection, when the physical platform is harmonious through a balanced emotional platform, while the egocentric mind is unchallenged, the result is a 3D co-creative experience which sees energy flowing freely between platforms; truly unconditional love.

This free flowing state of being should always be the intention/goal while in this 3D experience, as catalysts push ascension along for each individual towards the group.

Yet, this daily reality is hardly without catalysts/actions.

When a catalyst occurs here in 3D, we hinder our progress and disrupt our healing/ascension process by not honoring this reflection between platforms.

In the example below, the catalyst/action is displayed along with the changes within the experience.



Notice the disharmony in the physical platform, the unbalanced nature of the emotional platform and the now challenged nature of the mental platform.



Problem


If I remember correctly, in order to move forward and learn from any experience one (non-separated individual) must move as a whole within themselves.

Thus, any inhibitor/action used to counteract any catalyst must reflect through the emotional platform on both the physical and mental platforms congruently.



Solution


The above is a perfect solution to any problem/catalyst. No matter the catalyst, the inhibitor must be reflected free from blockages within either platform.

You have stated “…The mental life is not so easy, as the experience of the mental world becomes the 'Egocentricity of the Human Mind’…The mental experiences of 'falling over' are not self corrective and self teaching as found in the physical life of the necessities.”

I reflected here and recalled what most refer to as the chakras and more importantly what blocks the energy from flowing freely through them.

Simply, one cannot move forward only on the physical platform and leave the mental platform behind; to do so would ignore the imbalance from the emotional platform.

We were given the emotions to show us “how we are doing” with regard to the mental platform, if I remember correctly.

If one wants to know their progress towards ascension, or quite simply how they are learning from their 3D experience, check your gut…as it were.

If you feel higher amounts of energy (as there is no good or bad) on the emotional platform, check what might be causing the blockage.

In a free flowing energetic state, high amounts of energy signal an imbalance within the 3D experience; and are an indication of a blockage for at least one of the platforms.



Blockage


Clearing the ‘old wise man’ from the mental platform reveals challenges similar to the toddler learning to walk in the physical platform; as different approaches will yield to success.

As “…development of a harmonious…self disciplined human mind automatically balances and stabilizes the physical world with the mental world for a playground of the human spirit to express itself in its fullest extent of creativity, self-awareness and interconnectedness.”

Namaste,

Eric

[Phtha]

Nice post Eric, I resonate very closely with what you said.
I too see how this planet can be a paradise on Earth with just a few changes to our electric thoughts and magnetic emotions. I have a hard time believing that all the suffering everywhere is here for our good and for the good of the Universe and beyond. Do we really need to experience suffering or would not just the idea of it be enough? I'd prefer to keep it phantom, like death being only an idea or phantom simply because of the fact of beingness or life.

I'm still open to the possibility that all the suffering is for catalyst and for out benefit. Even if we did live here on Earth harmoniously in paradise our bodies would still decay, although I believe at a very slower rate then today, so suffering seems to be at least a part of our mission here.. ahh tis' a mystery to me as of yet.

Originally Posted by wilsonericq7

Thoughts through feelings become things | Things through feelings reflect thoughts.

In my humble recollection, when the physical platform is harmonious through a balanced emotional platform, while the egocentric mind is unchallenged, the result is a 3D co-creative experience which sees energy flowing freely between platforms; truly unconditional love.

This free flowing state of being should always be the intention/goal while in this 3D experience, as catalysts push ascension along for each individual towards the group.

[Anchor]

Originally Posted by wilsonericq7

In my humble recollection, when the physical platform is harmonious through a balanced emotional platform, while the egocentric mind is unchallenged, the result is a 3D co-creative experience which sees energy flowing freely between platforms; truly unconditional love.

This free flowing state of being should always be the intention/goal while in this 3D experience, as catalysts push ascension along for each individual towards the group.

Yet, this daily reality is hardly without catalysts/actions.

Outstanding post if I may say so.

A..

[wilsonericq7]

Originally Posted by Anchor

Outstanding post if I may say so.

A..

Thanks Anchor,

I am glad it spoke to you.

Namaste

[abraxasinas]

Originally Posted by wilsonericq7

Dear Abrax,

My intention is to clarify our path as a group by first resolving what holds us back as individuals.

In a balanced and unchallenged 3D experience (Eden) the mental and physical platforms are but mirrors of each other through the emotional platform experienced in real time.

The emotional platform is the communication field between platforms, a checklist of sorts. In the example below, the experience is harmonious and without catalyst/action.





Thoughts through feelings become things | Things through feelings reflect thoughts.



In my humble recollection, when the physical platform is harmonious through a balanced emotional platform, while the egocentric mind is unchallenged, the result is a 3D co-creative experience which sees energy flowing freely between platforms; truly unconditional love.

This free flowing state of being should always be the intention/goal while in this 3D experience, as catalysts push ascension along for each individual towards the group.

Yet, this daily reality is hardly without catalysts/actions.

When a catalyst occurs here in 3D, we hinder our progress and disrupt our healing/ascension process by not honoring this reflection between platforms.

In the example below, the catalyst/action is displayed along with the changes within the experience.



Notice the disharmony in the physical platform, the unbalanced nature of the emotional platform and the now challenged nature of the mental platform.



Problem


If I remember correctly, in order to move forward and learn from any experience one (non-separated individual) must move as a whole within themselves.

Thus, any inhibitor/action used to counteract any catalyst must reflect through the emotional platform on both the physical and mental platforms congruently.



Solution


The above is a perfect solution to any problem/catalyst. No matter the catalyst, the inhibitor must be reflected free from blockages within either platform.

You have stated “…The mental life is not so easy, as the experience of the mental world becomes the 'Egocentricity of the Human Mind’…The mental experiences of 'falling over' are not self corrective and self teaching as found in the physical life of the necessities.”

I reflected here and recalled what most refer to as the chakras and more importantly what blocks the energy from flowing freely through them.

Simply, one cannot move forward only on the physical platform and leave the mental platform behind; to do so would ignore the imbalance from the emotional platform.

We were given the emotions to show us “how we are doing” with regard to the mental platform, if I remember correctly.

If one wants to know their progress towards ascension, or quite simply how they are learning from their 3D experience, check your gut…as it were.

If you feel higher amounts of energy (as there is no good or bad) on the emotional platform, check what might be causing the blockage.

In a free flowing energetic state, high amounts of energy signal an imbalance within the 3D experience; and are an indication of a blockage for at least one of the platforms.



Blockage


Clearing the ‘old wise man’ from the mental platform reveals challenges similar to the toddler learning to walk in the physical platform; as different approaches will yield to success.

As “…development of a harmonious…self disciplined human mind automatically balances and stabilizes the physical world with the mental world for a playground of the human spirit to express itself in its fullest extent of creativity, self-awareness and interconnectedness.”

Namaste,

Eric

Thank you Eric for reformulating and clarifying my answer to your question.
You have embellished and illustrated what I meant to convey and there is nothing I would critisize here, being of a sound scientific and intelligent approach to the topic raised.

AA

[wilsonericq7]

Good Morning Abrax and company,

My last post was to make sure I understood the flow between the platforms. My enthusiasm for this material drives me to understand it completely. I yearn for my wife to join me with this material, so I share it often and break it down when it gets 'deep' (always complimenting her intelligence when doing so and assuming I understand any of it in the first place).

I appologize for embelishing; as the best post is a short post. Attention is too important to waste; again I am sorry if I insulted anyone here on this thread.

You are all so far ahead, I yearn to catch up.

[BROOK]

Originally Posted by BROOK

This is some interesting information....the numerology is outstanding

Hi guys! apparently there is some controversy for a post I did here...I'd like to clarify that I did not post the link, I only stated as above...that it was interesting, and the numerology was outstanding. I cannot see how that has anything to do with Ego...But I'm glad you all worked it out, and have figured out that I meant nothing by it...thank you Mindtruthseeker for seeing it for exactly what it was on anybody's behalf....as that is what this forum is about.
And ewhite...don't sweat it...no disrespect taken Especially since I did not really post the link anyway...haha

Originally Posted by Unified Serenity View Post
This post by 777 is most telling numerically and symbolism in media about some interesting names, Pi, and 11:11. It is very telling about Abraxas.

http://projectavalon.net/forum/showp...postcount=1902

Unified Serenity

[abraxasinas]

Originally Posted by Unified Serenity

This post by 777 is most telling numerically and symbolism in media about some interesting names, Pi, and 11:11. It is very telling about Abraxas.

http://projectavalon.net/forum/showp...postcount=1902

Unified Serenity

ABRAXAS(I)NAS = NAZI
& the earthly council of THUBAN



Abraxas is an alchemical phallic symbol of the solar god.
The two serpents are our parents, the great dragons ursa major and ursa minor. The four horses are the four cardinal points of the Zodiac, aka Four horses of the Apocalypse.
Notice Abraxas whip is 3 strands,giving us the occult number of 111
111 kabalistically is the name of the God Abraxas and the number of sudden death and destruction.Thuban is the power that removes the lesser flock,the weeds.Thule is where our english word Tool comes from.
The tools of the hammer and sickle of the NAZI party.] The SS or 77
or 14 is the number of the material plain.


Thuban was the driving force of the Nazi party.It is Thuban that the Pentagon ,designed as the symbol of man, draws it power from, to wage wars.

Thuban is aligned with Mars the god of WAR.
Thuban is synonymous with
Thugs
Thunder
The thumb-

These are all words and symbols of power
Thuban corresponds to the 13th tarot trump card of death.
Thuban is the sacrifice of Abraham's Ram in the bush
Abraxas ( Shield), is the shield of protective wisdom, and the whip driving power of speech,like the house majority Whip .

Intuition and swiftness of thought = Mercury. .Chistos 888 mentioned the use of the word shield in the media lately.Well here is that sheild of wisdom, to protect the initiate from all the BS

The 8 spoke wheel seen on other Abraxas images,is a symbol of chaos magic, and the 8th fold path of the Dharma.ABRACADABRA

Abraxas has another thread about 24 ancestors.The wheel in the abraxas image is 6 spoke which 360 which is 8 or infinity.
In the Kabalah 24 is Mercury whose essence is 8,as in the 8 spoke wheel of Abraxas.
Mecury is the messenger Tehuti,master of words and mathematics,he is the TRIXSTER.

Abraxas starts his dialogue at night
Night Kabalistically has a value of 97
97 means to capture or sieze suddenly

The Thuban thread emerged with the rising of SIRIUS., annoucing the comming of light into the world. Well to deliver a message on the number 18th date, is to be in shadow,for 18 is equivalent to shadow.18 is the initiate falling through the looking glass,because he or she only see shadow,and not reflection.


Sirius is the Dog star aka Egyptian Anpu, aka intuition ,that guides the soul through the underworld ,aka material plain.Intuition raises us from the horizontal, to the perpendicular.Fighting with the dog,keeps the Falcon below the horizon.

ABRAXASINAS REPLIES!


ABRAXAS=66=THUBAN=WOMAN=66=ANUBIS=FREEDOM=...D.I.Y .

ABRAXAS-IN-AS=AS-IN-ABRAXAS

ABRAXASINAS=ABRAXAS-NASI

Now note the Mirror-Symmetry between the 'Good' (right-path) S=Swastika and the 'Evil' (left-path) Z=Sauswastika



"left-facing" swastika on a Buddhist temple in Korea.


The swastika in the decorative Hindu form








The 'Nationale Sozialistische Partei Deutschland's'=NAZI Party USED the Sacred Symbolism of the Indian Sauswastika in its Mirror Expression.

Hitler, as 'Agartha's Prophet' and 'Luminari' wayshower, copied the Swastika in direct opposition to Shamballa's Sauswastika as symbol of the 'Illuminati of the Jews'.

Adolf Hitler, the Austrian; was 'groomed' by 'The Brotherhood of the Snake' {See the Abraxas photo as the serpentine legs} to 'Play' the Elijah archetype to bring about the 'Second Coming' and so the ''Tausendjaehrige Reich" the 'Millennium'.

So S<->Z



Gemstone carved with Abrasax, obverse and reverse.


Engraving from an Abrasax stone.


Long before this postAtlantean manifestation of the archetypology manifested; the Egyptian legacy understood the Symbolism of the Uraeus, of the sacred Serpent in the right solar eye of Horus and the left lunar eye
of Thoth/Hathor/Anubis.
From this the 'Snake-Cult' of the Naasseenes developed from whom none other than Yeshua Ben Pantera/Joseph Bar Thomas Didymos aka Jesus of NAZAreth, received initiation in the years leading to 24AD.

The Naasseenes understood the archetypology of the 2nd Order of the Cosmogenesis as that of the Abraxas or Abrasax.

From wiki:
The serpent
Every temple, naos, shows by its title that it is intended for the honour of the serpent naas as "the Moist Essence," of the universe, without which "naught at all of existing things, immortal or mortal, animate or inanimate, can hold together." Because, after all, "all things are subject to Him, and He is Good, and has all things in Him ... so that He distributes beauty and bloom to all that exist according to each one's nature and peculiarity, as though permeating all."[13]
G.R.S. Mead has suggested that all of this is in reference to the Kundalini:—

This is the cosmic Akāsha of the Upaniṣhads, and the Kuṇḍalinī, or serpentine force in man, which when following animal impulse is the force of generation, but when applied to spiritual things makes of a man a god. It is the Waters of Great Jordan flowing downwards (the generation of men) and upwards (the generation of gods); the Akāsha-gangā or Heavenly Ganges of the Purāṇas, the Heavenly Nile of mystic Egypt.[14]

End wiki

It would behoove all of you to engage in basis research before engaging in innuendo and analysis of material and data preceeding your many judgements on things you seem not to understand in clarity.

Abraxas, the perpetuator of the Nazi archetypology, the Thubanese way.

AA