Why is Kinsuemei2 banned?

[Jack]

Thats fair enough mntruthseeker, I've nothing bad to say about you. I know your an honest individual.

My point being, its not healthy to bash an entire concept because of one man. Sure, if someone disagrees with some of the things David says, thats fair enough, because i disagree with a fair amount of his information myself. The key here is to elaborate, Davids work covers a lot of ground.

But, bashing an entire concept to the point of insinuating that there is not an evolution in the consciousness of not only humanity but Gaia as well is as outrageous as someone stating the world is flat. That is Disinformation and at this stage in the game its downright dangerous. Thats where my beefs at.

And I'm not making this claim willy nilly, its after a lot of research that i'd be more then willing to share later on if you wish, just not right now, I'm experiencing some personal changes at the moment but will post later when the tides of life recede.

[Stargazer1965]

Originally Posted by Jack

Thats fair enough stargazer, I've nothing bad to say about you. I know your an honest individual.

My point being, its not healthy to bash an entire concept because of one man. Sure, if someone disagrees with some of the things David says, thats fair enough, because i disagree with a fair amount of his information myself. The key here is to elaborate, Davids work covers a lot of ground.

But, bashing an entire concept to the point of insinuating that there is not an evolution in the consciousness of not only humanity but Gaia as well is as outrageous as someone stating the world is flat. That is Disinformation and at this stage in the game its downright dangerous. Thats where my beefs at.

And I'm not making this claim willy nilly, its after a lot of research that i'd be more then willing to share later on if you wish, just not right now, I'm experiencing some personal changes at the moment but will post later when the tides of life recede.

Thanks Jack....

I think we are getting the message and the messenger confused here.

DW has made several off color remarks about sex and women....It gave me the "creepy" vibe and I'm a guy.

His message is a good an honest one.....Like I stated before :The bright spotlight brings out many things.

I would not want to be debated here about my honesty or my credibility.

I'm sure I could not stand up to that ....nor would I want to be accused of something...banned ...and no one stand up for me either.

Peace

[Céline]

Many here have stood up for him....look at the amount of posts here

[Jack]

Originally Posted by Stargazer1965

Thanks Jack....
I think we are getting the message and the messenger confused here.
DW has made several off color remarks about sex and women....It gave me the "creepy" vibe and I'm a guy.
His message is a good an honest one.....Like I stated before :The bright spotlight brings out many things.
I would not want to be debated here about my honesty or my credibility.
I'm sure I could not stand up to that ....nor would I want to be accused of something...banned ...and no one stand up for me either. Peace

I dunno why i thought it was you that said that, i was replying to mntruthseekers post thinking it was you and scratching my head a bit at stargazers new energy lol

[Steven]

Originally Posted by Jack

...insinuating that there is not an evolution in the consciousness of not only humanity but Gaia as well is as outrageous as someone stating the world is flat...

I do not rely on other information than my own personal point-of-view and the understanding of the mayan pyramid of evolution of consciousness to be totally convinced we are on a schedule with the Universe. The global consciousness evolves 'globally' and impacts are noticeable in the people behaviors.

That is why we see a lot of turmoils and also a lot of people investing with passion in their spirituality.

When I meet someone that find it all laughable, I silently bless the moment and know the laugh will not last for long...

Namaste, Steven

[Jack]

Originally Posted by Steven

I do not rely on other information than my own personal point-of-view and the understanding of the mayan pyramid of evolution of consciousness to be totally convinced we are on a schedule with the Universe. The global consciousness evolves 'globally' and impacts are noticeable in the people behaviors.

That is why we see a lot of turmoils and also a lot of people investing with passion in their spirituality.

When I meet someone that find it all laughable, I silently bless the moment and know the laugh will not last for long...

Namaste, Steven

The Mayan pyramid of consciousness really says it huh

As well as that intuition (as well as my clock saying 20:12 (its slow) while i write this lol)

I would hope that everyone who visits this forum has access to this fundamentally important truth, its implications so profound on ourselves as spiritual beings that noone has the right to lie about it consequently running the risk of denying someones chance at making some major spiritual progress.

[Anchor]

Mod hat off.

Personally I didn't like the fact that the IP address was posted at all. (This is not dissent by the way,
I expressed my opinion on that to Bill already; he made the call and has stood for it). I respect the decision, but you can see by the ensuing thread exactly why this kind of thing is unwise.

How much personal information should be disclosed to proove a point? Real names, real addresses, all IP addresses used, email addresses, private email (no matter how distorted in terms of the truth contained therein)? In my personal opinion this should never be done unless the opportunity for natural justice exists, and it does not in this context.

With what has been presented here, you cannot leap to conclusions with 100% certainty, I think the idea was to show that this was not done lightly, nor on some whimsical judgement.

Speaking personally I do also know that there was additional information (and not just from Bill) that supports Bill Ryan's conclusion. I would rather not see any of it made public.

A..

PS: Listen to Jack

[TempestGarden]

Originally Posted by Anchor

Personally I didn't like the fact that the IP address was posted at all. (This is not dissent by the way,
I expressed my opinion on that to Bill already; he made the call and has stood for it). I respect the decision, but you can see by the ensuing thread exactly why this kind of thing is unwise. How much personal information should be disclosed to proove a point? Real names, real addresses, all IP addresses used, email addresses, private email (no matter how distorted in terms of the truth contained therein)? In my personal opinion this should never be done unless the opportunity for natural justice exists, and it does not in this context.

I agree 100% with this assessment. We now know the answer as to why this poster has been banned and I think the IP address information should be removed by Bill from his post, at the very least.

[Anchor]

Good idea, I will see if that can be done.

[Sideshow Shaman]

Originally Posted by TempestGarden

I agree 100% with this assessment. We now know the answer as to why this poster has been banned and I think the IP address information should be removed by Bill from his post, at the very least.

Not really necessary. The IP in question traced back to an "Intown Suites" hotel in Jacksonville FL. Not like it was a permanent, individual, home address. The person probably has or will move on. Would be curious to know how long they broadcast that IP.

keywords: geolocating IP

Loved that post by Curative too.

[Steven]

Originally Posted by Jack

...The Mayan pyramid of consciousness really says it huh. As well as that intuition (as well as my clock saying 20:12 (its slow) while i write this lol...

there is no coincidence imo. Take a quick look, it's on the pyramid of evolution of consciousness: http://projectavalon.net/forum/showp...9&postcount=25

Namaste, Steven