No Food - No Fear

lightblue · 02-20-2010, 01:01 AM

wonder why you edited out that link...my previous post now looks funny..never mind, the link was rubbish anyway...i would have wanted the lions to win..

also wonder why do you think you can coach anyone on breatharianism when you haven't cracked it yourself? you started... then stopped ...for a justifiable reason i do believe...still, you don't have the experience as such..

re my age - your assumption is presumptious again...

bw l

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Gnosis5 · 02-20-2010, 04:20 AM

During my 60-days water-ony fast I lost about 10 pounds of the "bad" stuff.

The reason I started it is because I believe my body was finally able to get the message over to me, the "big guy" in charge, and the "big guy" decided to listen to the body. I merely cooperated with the body by helping it process out any sticky compulsions.

One day Body and I were sitting there looking at full-color explicit photos of food on a plate. It was touch and go for an hour, but the process worked and after that we could both look at photos of food and feel no compulsions whatsoever

Eating for us is now more of a societal thing and that is a bit more complicated to process out so for now we stick to twice a year fasting.

bashi · 02-20-2010, 09:24 AM

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Welcome Lightblue, ancient Master of the Mind.
Please allow me to explain my actions: As soon as I noticed your divine presence in this thread, I realized that this low frequency film should not besmirch your golden Lotus Mind. I tried immediately to rectify my mistake, but your Highness has - of course - immediately noticed my fault. Thank you for pointing out my mistakes. May i ask for forgiveness?
As your Highness has already noticed, I use this thread as a playground of my EGO for self-aggrandizement and I am roaming freely in this self-delusional world.
You are – of course - right that I have not completed the process, although my monkey-mind tells me that I KNOW to have completed it. But that’s a part of my self-delusional world. It seems that I have underestimated the power of my mind, and got stuck here in this thread by myself. If you request it, then i might stop this thread immediately to free myself.
Does your Highness command this?

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lightblue · 02-20-2010, 11:54 AM

:tongue tied...must i marry you now?

bashi, you are pulling my leg but that's alright....i lacked tact.. please don't leave this thread (not a command) - i am sure many are reading even if they may not be entering the discussion....and i wish you never leave this forum - you speak with a clear voice, though you sometimes cut like a steel wire, i feel your heart is in a good place...

i belong to the annoying minority of those who don't put weight on, or lose any, eat or starve.. weighed the same all my adult life..the most attractive food can stare me in the face , i won't want any if i don't feel the need..so when i heard of breatharianism, i thought - interesting, i may be trainable..! but most likely i'am wrong...i know it's not that simple..

there was no offence, so there's nothing to forgive...

bw l

bashi · 02-20-2010, 02:58 PM

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Well, well ,well, my fishing for compliments has worked out, my EGO is pleased and so I will continue my roaming.
I actually really think that this film is a little bit misplaced at this thread. It’s quite bloody and not for the easy-hearted. Although it’s a very good film about fear-control, it will still cut like a steel wire. It will not raise the energies, but give them a beating, if you are not strong.
I lived for 12 years in Africa, maybe that’s why I like it so much.
So - for the sake of a complete discussion - here it comes, light, but beware it’s not easy to chew and digest:
Quote: “Set in 1898, this movie is based on the true story of two lions in Africa …”
...”Tsavo means a place of Slaughter”

http://www.movies-links.tv/s/the_gho..._darkness.html

After clicking the film, choose the Megavideo-link. That will pause after 70 minutes and will resume later. But quality-wise its worth.

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lightblue · 02-20-2010, 06:25 PM

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I actually really think that this film is a little bit misplaced at this thread. It’s quite bloody and not for the easy-hearted. Although it’s a very good film about fear-control, it will still cut like a steel wire. It will not raise the energies, but give them a beating, if you are not strong.
I lived for 12 years in Africa, maybe that’s why I like it so much.

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After clicking the film, choose the Megavideo-link. That will pause after 70 minutes and will resume later. But quality-wise its worth.

don't i know it. i satyed into the small hour watching it last night, just to see it stop playing (74th minute)..which is why i said the link was rubbish...

i sampled parts of africa myself, so i thought it might bring back some memories..you are right, i'm not that strong, so i just don't watch the ghory bits..on the otherr hand and in real life, i can't be that feeble - i traveled on my own (my other adventure companions had all dropped ill) all the way to masai mara land on a matatu , not bad for a muzungu woman...stayed in a humble hut with hyeenas all around., you don't want to hear that.. it's when i experienced a primal fear very very strongly...masai people were entertained and laughed a lot - hyenas are not an issue for them, nor are the lions - it's the elephants!!!..anyway, i never have, still don't like my emotions being manipulated by film makers, so i carry on to be careful on that front..

bw l

Gnosis5 · 02-21-2010, 02:48 AM

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Originally Posted by bashi

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Welcome Lightblue, ancient Master of the Mind.
Please allow me to explain my actions: As soon as I noticed your divine presence in this thread, I realized that this low frequency film should not besmirch your golden Lotus Mind. I tried immediately to rectify my mistake, but your Highness has - of course - immediately noticed my fault. Thank you for pointing out my mistakes. May i ask for forgiveness?
As your Highness has already noticed, I use this thread as a playground of my EGO for self-aggrandizement and I am roaming freely in this self-delusional world.
You are – of course - right that I have not completed the process, although my monkey-mind tells me that I KNOW to have completed it. But that’s a part of my self-delusional world. It seems that I have underestimated the power of my mind, and got stuck here in this thread by myself. If you request it, then i might stop this thread immediately to free myself.
Does your Highness command this?

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HA, HA, HA! Very funny!

Spent about a year in Nairobi and absolutely loved the energies there. Of course that was in and around '93.

bashi · 02-21-2010, 08:58 PM

"a muzungu woman" is which tribe? Masai for Anglo Saxon?

lightblue · 02-21-2010, 10:15 PM

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"a muzungu woman" is which tribe? Masai for Anglo Saxon?

muzungu (swahili)= a white/non indiginous individual..swahili is widely spoken in east africa, something like mandingo is in the west...the masai have their own language (ma), in addition they understand and use swahili too...

i finished watching that film..not that believable..i mean, why would the lions go on a killing spree? unless they're hunting for food or are feeling threatened, they don't go killing for entertainment..it's what (in)humans do...don't know..and they say it's based on a true story..hmmmm..i doubt it..

see this to patch yourself up and restore your faith in lions: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=btuxO-C2IzE

anyway, did you mean that surmounting the fear of being eaten helps surmount the fear of being killed by non-eating (as in breatharianism)..is that the message you thought was worth getting..or is it simply surmounting one's fear in general?

ever seen apocalypto?

some shocking scenes that used to be a religious practice .. well documented..very meaningul,multilayered...and topical..fantastic camera work..

L-AMM

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bashi · 02-21-2010, 10:30 PM

simply surmounting one's fear in general.

but the mind can turn the body into a lion. A lion which will eat itself...

bashi · 02-21-2010, 10:35 PM

A really beautiful video.

bashi · 02-21-2010, 10:42 PM

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Ok, back to the process:

This thread should not be regarded as a manual for starting the process of becoming a Breatharian. The info alone provided here is not at all sufficient to start it! Please do not fool around!!

It is only a guideline of what is required and important to be considered for a thorough preparation. I will mention the possible difficulties you might encounter, but this is not meant to scare you away. I am only charting the waters as a preparation for your (possible) journey. This journey can be made while living alone or while living in a family. For each situation certain different guidelines are applicable.

First is the mental preparation.
During my preparation I read the following 4 books:

Jasmuheen:
a. In Resonance
b. Living on Light-The Source of Norishment for the New Millenium

c. Tashira Tachi-Ren: What is Lightbody?

d. Tony Stubbs : An Ascension Handbook

There are many more, especially from Jasmuheen, but after studying and digesting these 4 books I felt that it’s enough for me.
You will get the details about the 3 weeks process technique from these books. I will not state them here. All remaining questions , i feel, are more or less covered by these books; but thats individual.

The main principle is that for a minimum of 3 weeks you will have to go into a strict retreat while you are transforming yourself.

I decided to go through this 3 weeks process, as described by Jasmuheen.
I arranged my live accordingly, so that I had a minimum of 4 weeks for the process.

This retreat is an inner journey into the unknown, with no outside interferences allowed/preferred during that journey.

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lightblue · 02-21-2010, 10:52 PM

thanks
i might consider it when i know i'll have the time for isolation.
best l

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lightblue · 02-21-2010, 10:40 PM

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simply surmounting one's fear in general.

but the mind can turn the body into a lion. A lion which will eat itself...

a lion which will eat itself - why would a lion want to do that?

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bashi · 02-25-2010, 12:37 AM

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Originally Posted by lightblue

a lion which will eat itself - why would a lion want to do that?

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The body which digest itself is the mind-created lion that eats itself.

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lightblue · 02-25-2010, 12:50 AM

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The body which digest itself is the mind-created lion that eats itself.

so, one's mind lives on while the body digests itself...

bw l .

bashi · 02-25-2010, 12:13 PM

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Originally Posted by lightblue

a lion which will eat itself - why would a lion want to do that?

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While being in the process, there are two possibilities:

1. You “know” that everything is right on track and your mind stabilizes in a reality where you do not need to eat. Then you will develop from a caterpillar to a butterfly.

Or

2. Your low–frequency fears are getting out of control and your mind gets convinced that you are only harming yourself. The required resonance –tuning of your body-consciousness can not be achieved by entertaining this fear. In the end the mind creates the self-digesting body, the lion which eats itself.

In both cases the mind is the ultimate player. So it’s important to condition or self program yourself and give the mind a new direction of thought.
Imagine the mind like a big river: In order to redirect it you first have to dig a new riverbed, and then build strong dams to redirect the water into the new path. These new dams have to withstand floods etc…
You will have to be able to self-affirmate your mind in order to withstand a possible flood of fear.

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lightblue · 02-25-2010, 01:46 PM

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1. You “know” that everything is right on track and your mind stabilizes in a reality where you do not need to eat. Then you will develop from a caterpillar to a butterfly.

i am alright with the sequence of option 1 - only, your " do not need to eat" i'd call something else, maybe - you get nourishment anyway (from somewhere, sunlight maybe)..your version of the postulate implies a total isolation..my sense is thet we are co-existive beings...not happy with non-relating orientation..

your option 2 is a non starter really

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2. Your low–frequency fears are getting out of control and your mind gets convinced that you are only harming yourself. The required resonance –tuning of your body-consciousness can not be achieved by entertaining this fear. In the end the mind creates the self-digesting body, the lion which eats itself.

and i don't know why do you need a lion analoigy?
isn't this to simply say that as a result of your fears of not getting nourishment from anywhere, your body turns against itself, digests itself and perishes?

bashi · 02-25-2010, 01:59 PM

and i don't know why do you need a lion analoigy?
isn't this to simply say that as a result of your fears of not getting nourishment from anywhere, your body turns against itself, digests itself and perishes? [/QUOTE]

I explained exactly that by saying

"but the mind can turn the body into a lion. A lion which will eat itself... ",

but you didn't understand

maybe too much of

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lightblue · 02-25-2010, 02:07 PM

i've no comment

bashi · 02-25-2010, 08:28 PM

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Originally Posted by lightblue

[COLOR="LightBlue"][SIZE="3"]i am alright with the sequence of option 1 - only, your " do not need to eat" i'd call something else, maybe - you get nourishment anyway (from somewhere, sunlight maybe)

Well i can’t eat light, but absorb it. But you are right, something is consumed by the body.
There are different levels:
Some still need to drink. For me it was ~1.5 litre per day.
Others do not drink at all and
very few even do not need to breath…

It depends on the degree of transformation.

Jasmuheen still is drinking a glass per day. She actually tried to advance into a state where there is no requirement for any liquid intake, but failed to achieve that.

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bashi · 02-26-2010, 04:51 PM

I decided to go through the 3 weeks process, as described by Jasmuheen.

I arranged my live, so that I had a minimum of 4 weeks time for the process. If you consider to start the process, then you will need assistance, just in case. This assistant I will name as “birther”. You should be in an absolute retreat during the process, so you need a birther , somebody who will come regularly on a daily basis to check during the process that everything is OK with you.

The outer frame has to be set properly:
There should be:
- No work requirements for you during the time of the process
- a room or place only for yourself; best would be a flat/house with only you living there during the process.
-,there should not be any contact or visit from other persons, except for the “birther”
- no TV, radio, telephone, internet or other communication. Make sure none of these gadgets will disturb you.
- get a new mobile number for contact to your birther by you. Nobody else should know the number. The birther should not use the number to call you; only you shall call in case of emergency.

The first practical steps are:

You have to think how your friends/family can react and prepare them for it with a discussion. Keep the circle of people knowing about it as small as possible. Inform only people which can understand or except your decision and are not trying to persuade you by all means not to proceed. If you have a family, then you should only proceed if your partner can accept that.

On the other hand: You have the right to your own spiritual development, and people associated with you should respect that and should not call your desire egoistical:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=njPvuu4MSCI

The visiting time of the birther should not exceed 30 minutes to one hour. No smalltalk during the visit, only the necessities will be attended to.

It can be also very good if you have additionally a guide/consultant through the process. It should be a person who has gone already through the process and might give you some reassurance or explanation. You will only be able to contact the consultant through your birther, either by a mobile phone which the birther will bring and take with him/her, or by oral Q/A with the answers been brought back the next day. A consultant can be helpful, but is not required.

Normally your only contact should be the birther.

Its not easy to be a birther: He/She will witness your process most likely for the first time and has not been prepared for it like you have prepared yourself. You have to chose a person on which you can rely on, not just somebody. That person should be a warm, caring person who knows you well. It should be a person who is very close to you, mentally stable and very reliable.
I had asked my former long-time girlfriend to be my birther, because we continued to be very good friends. But it was still very hard for her to see my rapid weight-loss. Later she revealed that she was a little bit afraid to come at the end of the first week of the process, because she was afraid that she might open the door and find a corpse.
The daily visit by the birther is absolute essential during the first week of the process, because mostly it’s the hardest part.

Do not try to start the process alone without a birther. It can be very risky.
For example: My blood pressure was very low during the process and it was dangerous if I stood up too quick. I made that mistake in the 2nd week, became unconscious for a second, and fell like a tree. Luckily i got only minor bruises, but you can injure yourself badly in this way. If you have no birther, then you can be in serious trouble.

Gnosis5 · 02-27-2010, 05:33 AM

Great that you are going to journal on this forum. I will learn a lot from you and it may be the prompt I need to become more tenacious in my commitment.

The Illuminati like to call us "useless eaters". I guess now they will have to call us "useless"

bashi · 02-27-2010, 02:47 PM

Yes Gnosis5, that’s the purpose of this thread: To inform and inspire.
I bet the illuminati will have a hard time to mimic this. Although mentally trained, they have lost the connection with the divine source and have connected to another power through EGO, which can feed only itself, but not the body with higher energies.
This birthing process is based on connection through love and confidence in the divine.
We will rise like the Phoenix, while our ash will blow into their face like dust:

http://www.emp3world.com/mp3/44696/Q...s%20The%20Dust

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bashi · 02-27-2010, 10:36 PM

The process takes at least 3 weeks, with every week being different.

To prepare for it, you first will have to get rid of all addictions, BEFORE you start the actual process. This is done so that any “Turkey”- symptoms of the body are not adding to the stress of the process itself.
You might think it is not applicable to you, but I count also coffee, tea and cigarettes into this category. For Coffee/Tea you will need at least one week of abstinence before starting the process. You might say, this is not required for you, but if you drink several cups of coffee/tea every day, then your body will most likely show stress-symptoms, like migraine, if you suddenly stop it. Just try it and you will see…
So you have to balance that out before starting the real process.
I know somebody who smokes only “Stuff” and who was considering to start the process. He said something like: ”In this foodless state my ´stuff´ will take me even higher!” Let me say here: NO WAY!
Get rid of that habit first before thinking of the process, otherwise you will have no chance for a successful completion. That guy never even tried to start…
On the day before starting the process, you have to prepare your body: You have to eat only light food in the morning/noon. No food in the evening. In that afternoon/evening you have to clear out your intestines, so that you enter empty into the process. I used Glauber-Salt, which was very convenient. You can drink Salt-water to improve the cleaning, but after some time you should drink normal water, so that you are not starting the process being already thirsty. The first day starts at 00:00 midnight, sharp. Anything eating or drinking stops, no compromise. If you feel that you can still drink maybe a bit etc after that deadline, then you should not even start. You will only waste your time and energy because you are cheating yourself. It’s a clear sign that you are not ready.
With that attitude you will most probably not be able to maintain a stable and fearless mind, because you will know that you have not followed protocol. So there will be no confidence...

The stable mind

I will not describe the technique here on the thread in detail, which is described in book 1 of the list mentioned before.
This is done intentionally, because as a preparation from your side more effort should be involved than sitting on the PC and browsing. This thread will give you some ideas, but will be in no way sufficient to start the process.
I will include some of my personal observations as additional info, to assist somebody who might consider to go ahead with the process.
This process is an expansion of your being far beyond the physical manifestation. It’s more like a remembering of the old ways of existence, and by doing so you wilfully transform yourself.
Let the fallen angel remember its true nature…
This self-birthing process can, for many people, go along with heavy “labour pain” i.e. the severe effects of the process itself. I will give you an idea of the overall process, together with some useful details. I do not want to belittle the divinity of the process by addressing these small details, but to smoothen the path in a practical way, just in case it gets bumpy. These details can actually become very valuable for somebody intending to go through the process, because these are not mentioned in any book.

Let me just reveal that in the first week you will neither eat nor drink anything !!!
Now everybody conditioned by Mainstream medical science will start screaming: Do NOT try that, because after max 4-5 days you will be dead!
It is here where the proper preparation comes in…

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02-20-2010, 01:01 AM	#1
lightblue Avalon Senior Member Join Date: Oct 2009 Posts: 360	Re: No Food - No Fear wonder why you edited out that link...my previous post now looks funny..never mind, the link was rubbish anyway...i would have wanted the lions to win.. also wonder why do you think you can coach anyone on breatharianism when you haven't cracked it yourself? you started... then stopped ...for a justifiable reason i do believe...still, you don't have the experience as such.. re my age - your assumption is presumptious again... bw l .

02-20-2010, 04:20 AM	#2
Gnosis5 Avalon Senior Member Join Date: Sep 2008 Location: Canada Posts: 1,659	Re: No Food - No Fear During my 60-days water-ony fast I lost about 10 pounds of the "bad" stuff. The reason I started it is because I believe my body was finally able to get the message over to me, the "big guy" in charge, and the "big guy" decided to listen to the body. I merely cooperated with the body by helping it process out any sticky compulsions. One day Body and I were sitting there looking at full-color explicit photos of food on a plate. It was touch and go for an hour, but the process worked and after that we could both look at photos of food and feel no compulsions whatsoever Eating for us is now more of a societal thing and that is a bit more complicated to process out so for now we stick to twice a year fasting.

02-20-2010, 09:24 AM	#3
bashi Avalon Senior Member Join Date: Dec 2009 Posts: 214	Re: No Food - No Fear . Welcome Lightblue, ancient Master of the Mind. Please allow me to explain my actions: As soon as I noticed your divine presence in this thread, I realized that this low frequency film should not besmirch your golden Lotus Mind. I tried immediately to rectify my mistake, but your Highness has - of course - immediately noticed my fault. Thank you for pointing out my mistakes. May i ask for forgiveness? As your Highness has already noticed, I use this thread as a playground of my EGO for self-aggrandizement and I am roaming freely in this self-delusional world. You are – of course - right that I have not completed the process, although my monkey-mind tells me that I KNOW to have completed it. But that’s a part of my self-delusional world. It seems that I have underestimated the power of my mind, and got stuck here in this thread by myself. If you request it, then i might stop this thread immediately to free myself. Does your Highness command this? . Last edited by bashi; 02-20-2010 at 11:40 AM.

02-20-2010, 11:54 AM	#4
lightblue Avalon Senior Member Join Date: Oct 2009 Posts: 360	Re: No Food - No Fear :tongue tied...must i marry you now? bashi, you are pulling my leg but that's alright....i lacked tact.. please don't leave this thread (not a command) - i am sure many are reading even if they may not be entering the discussion....and i wish you never leave this forum - you speak with a clear voice, though you sometimes cut like a steel wire, i feel your heart is in a good place... i belong to the annoying minority of those who don't put weight on, or lose any, eat or starve.. weighed the same all my adult life..the most attractive food can stare me in the face , i won't want any if i don't feel the need..so when i heard of breatharianism, i thought - interesting, i may be trainable..! but most likely i'am wrong...i know it's not that simple.. there was no offence, so there's nothing to forgive... bw l Last edited by lightblue; 02-20-2010 at 02:00 PM.

02-20-2010, 02:58 PM	#5
bashi Avalon Senior Member Join Date: Dec 2009 Posts: 214	Re: No Food - No Fear . Well, well ,well, my fishing for compliments has worked out, my EGO is pleased and so I will continue my roaming. I actually really think that this film is a little bit misplaced at this thread. It’s quite bloody and not for the easy-hearted. Although it’s a very good film about fear-control, it will still cut like a steel wire. It will not raise the energies, but give them a beating, if you are not strong. I lived for 12 years in Africa, maybe that’s why I like it so much. So - for the sake of a complete discussion - here it comes, light, but beware it’s not easy to chew and digest: Quote: “Set in 1898, this movie is based on the true story of two lions in Africa …” ...”Tsavo means a place of Slaughter” http://www.movies-links.tv/s/the_gho..._darkness.html After clicking the film, choose the Megavideo-link. That will pause after 70 minutes and will resume later. But quality-wise its worth. .

02-21-2010, 08:58 PM	#8
bashi Avalon Senior Member Join Date: Dec 2009 Posts: 214	Re: No Food - No Fear "a muzungu woman" is which tribe? Masai for Anglo Saxon?

02-21-2010, 10:30 PM	#10
bashi Avalon Senior Member Join Date: Dec 2009 Posts: 214	Re: No Food - No Fear simply surmounting one's fear in general. but the mind can turn the body into a lion. A lion which will eat itself...

02-21-2010, 10:35 PM	#11
bashi Avalon Senior Member Join Date: Dec 2009 Posts: 214	Re: No Food - No Fear A really beautiful video.

02-21-2010, 10:42 PM	#12
bashi Avalon Senior Member Join Date: Dec 2009 Posts: 214	Re: No Food - No Fear . Ok, back to the process: This thread should not be regarded as a manual for starting the process of becoming a Breatharian. The info alone provided here is not at all sufficient to start it! Please do not fool around!! It is only a guideline of what is required and important to be considered for a thorough preparation. I will mention the possible difficulties you might encounter, but this is not meant to scare you away. I am only charting the waters as a preparation for your (possible) journey. This journey can be made while living alone or while living in a family. For each situation certain different guidelines are applicable. First is the mental preparation. During my preparation I read the following 4 books: Jasmuheen: a. In Resonance b. Living on Light-The Source of Norishment for the New Millenium c. Tashira Tachi-Ren: What is Lightbody? d. Tony Stubbs : An Ascension Handbook There are many more, especially from Jasmuheen, but after studying and digesting these 4 books I felt that it’s enough for me. You will get the details about the 3 weeks process technique from these books. I will not state them here. All remaining questions , i feel, are more or less covered by these books; but thats individual. The main principle is that for a minimum of 3 weeks you will have to go into a strict retreat while you are transforming yourself. I decided to go through this 3 weeks process, as described by Jasmuheen. I arranged my live accordingly, so that I had a minimum of 4 weeks for the process. This retreat is an inner journey into the unknown, with no outside interferences allowed/preferred during that journey. .

02-21-2010, 10:52 PM	#13
lightblue Avalon Senior Member Join Date: Oct 2009 Posts: 360	Re: No Food - No Fear thanks i might consider it when i know i'll have the time for isolation. best l .

02-25-2010, 01:59 PM	#19
bashi Avalon Senior Member Join Date: Dec 2009 Posts: 214	Re: No Food - No Fear and i don't know why do you need a lion analoigy? isn't this to simply say that as a result of your fears of not getting nourishment from anywhere, your body turns against itself, digests itself and perishes? [/QUOTE] I explained exactly that by saying "but the mind can turn the body into a lion. A lion which will eat itself... ", but you didn't understand maybe too much of ... .

02-25-2010, 02:07 PM	#20
lightblue Avalon Senior Member Join Date: Oct 2009 Posts: 360	Re: No Food - No Fear i've no comment

02-26-2010, 04:51 PM	#22
bashi Avalon Senior Member Join Date: Dec 2009 Posts: 214	Re: No Food - No Fear I decided to go through the 3 weeks process, as described by Jasmuheen. I arranged my live, so that I had a minimum of 4 weeks time for the process. If you consider to start the process, then you will need assistance, just in case. This assistant I will name as “birther”. You should be in an absolute retreat during the process, so you need a birther , somebody who will come regularly on a daily basis to check during the process that everything is OK with you. The outer frame has to be set properly: There should be: - No work requirements for you during the time of the process - a room or place only for yourself; best would be a flat/house with only you living there during the process. -,there should not be any contact or visit from other persons, except for the “birther” - no TV, radio, telephone, internet or other communication. Make sure none of these gadgets will disturb you. - get a new mobile number for contact to your birther by you. Nobody else should know the number. The birther should not use the number to call you; only you shall call in case of emergency. The first practical steps are: You have to think how your friends/family can react and prepare them for it with a discussion. Keep the circle of people knowing about it as small as possible. Inform only people which can understand or except your decision and are not trying to persuade you by all means not to proceed. If you have a family, then you should only proceed if your partner can accept that. On the other hand: You have the right to your own spiritual development, and people associated with you should respect that and should not call your desire egoistical: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=njPvuu4MSCI The visiting time of the birther should not exceed 30 minutes to one hour. No smalltalk during the visit, only the necessities will be attended to. It can be also very good if you have additionally a guide/consultant through the process. It should be a person who has gone already through the process and might give you some reassurance or explanation. You will only be able to contact the consultant through your birther, either by a mobile phone which the birther will bring and take with him/her, or by oral Q/A with the answers been brought back the next day. A consultant can be helpful, but is not required. Normally your only contact should be the birther. Its not easy to be a birther: He/She will witness your process most likely for the first time and has not been prepared for it like you have prepared yourself. You have to chose a person on which you can rely on, not just somebody. That person should be a warm, caring person who knows you well. It should be a person who is very close to you, mentally stable and very reliable. I had asked my former long-time girlfriend to be my birther, because we continued to be very good friends. But it was still very hard for her to see my rapid weight-loss. Later she revealed that she was a little bit afraid to come at the end of the first week of the process, because she was afraid that she might open the door and find a corpse. The daily visit by the birther is absolute essential during the first week of the process, because mostly it’s the hardest part. Do not try to start the process alone without a birther. It can be very risky. For example: My blood pressure was very low during the process and it was dangerous if I stood up too quick. I made that mistake in the 2nd week, became unconscious for a second, and fell like a tree. Luckily i got only minor bruises, but you can injure yourself badly in this way. If you have no birther, then you can be in serious trouble.

02-27-2010, 05:33 AM	#23
Gnosis5 Avalon Senior Member Join Date: Sep 2008 Location: Canada Posts: 1,659	Re: No Food - No Fear Great that you are going to journal on this forum. I will learn a lot from you and it may be the prompt I need to become more tenacious in my commitment. The Illuminati like to call us "useless eaters". I guess now they will have to call us "useless"

02-27-2010, 02:47 PM	#24
bashi Avalon Senior Member Join Date: Dec 2009 Posts: 214	Re: No Food - No Fear Yes Gnosis5, that’s the purpose of this thread: To inform and inspire. I bet the illuminati will have a hard time to mimic this. Although mentally trained, they have lost the connection with the divine source and have connected to another power through EGO, which can feed only itself, but not the body with higher energies. This birthing process is based on connection through love and confidence in the divine. We will rise like the Phoenix, while our ash will blow into their face like dust: http://www.emp3world.com/mp3/44696/Q...s%20The%20Dust .

02-27-2010, 10:36 PM	#25
bashi Avalon Senior Member Join Date: Dec 2009 Posts: 214	Re: No Food - No Fear The process takes at least 3 weeks, with every week being different. To prepare for it, you first will have to get rid of all addictions, BEFORE you start the actual process. This is done so that any “Turkey”- symptoms of the body are not adding to the stress of the process itself. You might think it is not applicable to you, but I count also coffee, tea and cigarettes into this category. For Coffee/Tea you will need at least one week of abstinence before starting the process. You might say, this is not required for you, but if you drink several cups of coffee/tea every day, then your body will most likely show stress-symptoms, like migraine, if you suddenly stop it. Just try it and you will see… So you have to balance that out before starting the real process. I know somebody who smokes only “Stuff” and who was considering to start the process. He said something like: ”In this foodless state my ´stuff´ will take me even higher!” Let me say here: NO WAY! Get rid of that habit first before thinking of the process, otherwise you will have no chance for a successful completion. That guy never even tried to start… On the day before starting the process, you have to prepare your body: You have to eat only light food in the morning/noon. No food in the evening. In that afternoon/evening you have to clear out your intestines, so that you enter empty into the process. I used Glauber-Salt, which was very convenient. You can drink Salt-water to improve the cleaning, but after some time you should drink normal water, so that you are not starting the process being already thirsty. The first day starts at 00:00 midnight, sharp. Anything eating or drinking stops, no compromise. If you feel that you can still drink maybe a bit etc after that deadline, then you should not even start. You will only waste your time and energy because you are cheating yourself. It’s a clear sign that you are not ready. With that attitude you will most probably not be able to maintain a stable and fearless mind, because you will know that you have not followed protocol. So there will be no confidence... The stable mind I will not describe the technique here on the thread in detail, which is described in book 1 of the list mentioned before. This is done intentionally, because as a preparation from your side more effort should be involved than sitting on the PC and browsing. This thread will give you some ideas, but will be in no way sufficient to start the process. I will include some of my personal observations as additional info, to assist somebody who might consider to go ahead with the process. This process is an expansion of your being far beyond the physical manifestation. It’s more like a remembering of the old ways of existence, and by doing so you wilfully transform yourself. Let the fallen angel remember its true nature… This self-birthing process can, for many people, go along with heavy “labour pain” i.e. the severe effects of the process itself. I will give you an idea of the overall process, together with some useful details. I do not want to belittle the divinity of the process by addressing these small details, but to smoothen the path in a practical way, just in case it gets bumpy. These details can actually become very valuable for somebody intending to go through the process, because these are not mentioned in any book. Let me just reveal that in the first week you will neither eat nor drink anything !!! Now everybody conditioned by Mainstream medical science will start screaming: Do NOT try that, because after max 4-5 days you will be dead! It is here where the proper preparation comes in… .