Matrix 5

[Gnosis5]

I'm working through the excerpts. Definitely stirring up memories.

[Christo888]

Originally Posted by TheChosen

Holy... I have to retract my statement .. anyone who states the following has clearly lost the plot in my opinion

Quote:
# If you feel attraction to the opposite sex, you are experiencing a DNA program that was put there in order to encourage our species to reproduce. In other words, heterosexual attraction is an expression of our genetic slavery. Homosexuality is the natural sexual expression of advanced souls.
# The prime spiritual law is that like attracts like, and so our natural, non-programmed state is to be homosexual for it implies that our DNA programming has weakened to the point whereby we are not obsessed with the opposite sex.


This goes against all the major systems of reality I tend to agree with (Law of one by Ra, Seth speaks, personal experiences of my own etc).. Also for anyone to state they have the 100% of truth and that it is completely undebatable into the system of reality we are in right now.. is pure ignorance on their part.. There are always distortions to any kind of information as a result of personal bias or misconceptions (something repeated over many times in the law of one channeling for example)... so even though the author might have done OBEs .. those are hardly objective as anyone with any real experience will tell you... one single stray subconcious thought or program and you are completely lost in the experience..

I'd really just stick to the Seth Speaks book 1 (haven't read the others, maybe they are just as good) for a well done explanation about the dynamics of incarnations/individual experience. I can't think of any reason why one would bother with the inferior Matrix5 material (which ironically claims to be the most supreme and truth containing book ever in the whole human history...lol... incredible)

Well 'The Chosen' I might have to agree with you about that quote!

The above 'quote' I do not remember reading in the matrix material so first off is it a misquote to discredit the 'author' or is this what the author thinks? Because if so, then I would have a problem with his thinking about the law of attraction as being only 'like attracts like' and that a final incarnation probably likes the same sex. If that is what the author believes then now I really question all of his material. Sorry but to become gay to be in a final incarnation is extremely laughable if the author wants to be gay then have at it… and ironically 'like repels like' in magnetism. Also, I can tell the author really did not fully define all the arenas of the Law of Attraction as there are many attributes to the generalized term. 'Like attracts like' AND 'opposites also attract,' one just has to learn or understand what situation or circumstance they are currently in in order to 'see' the mechanics of the LOA play out. Male wants female, magnetic field North flows into magnetic field South, negative attracts positive, the darkness attracts the light... the entire universal structure of physicality depends on three things... positive, negative and ground, which are not part of ‘polarity.’

I am going to conclude that the above quote is false and is not from the ‘author’ of the matrix series.

[Gnosis5]

Originally Posted by Christo888

Well 'The Chosen' I might have to agree with you about that quote!

The above 'quote' I do not remember reading in the matrix material so first off is it a misquote to discredit the 'author' or is this what the author thinks? Because if so, then I would have a problem with his thinking about the law of attraction as being only 'like attracts like' and that a final incarnation probably likes the same sex. If that is what the author believes then now I really question all of his material. Sorry but to become gay to be in a final incarnation is extremely laughable if the author wants to be gay then have at it… and ironically 'like repels like' in magnetism. Also, I can tell the author really did not fully define all the arenas of the Law of Attraction as there are many attributes to the generalized term. 'Like attracts like' AND 'opposites also attract,' one just has to learn or understand what situation or circumstance they are currently in in order to 'see' the mechanics of the LOA play out. Male wants female, magnetic field North flows into magnetic field South, negative attracts positive, the darkness attracts the light... the entire universal structure of physicality depends on three things... positive, negative and ground, which are not part of ‘polarity.’

I am going to conclude that the above quote is false and is not from the ‘author’ of the matrix series.

Felt there were definitely some "polarity addictions" being dramatized, as you point out. Also the constant reference to "sequentials" and "simultaneous" is an obvious polarity issue.

The TROM model of polarities, and its techniques can be helpful for those who wish to aggressively address fixed polarities. The author is Dennis Stephens. I use a more shotgun approach and my polarities, among other things, become unfixed or vanished as I come upon them at their source of inception.

[Gnosis5]

When he talks about sex with bodies at all, or body-to-body directly he is operating on a very low level in regards to that particular sensual pleasure.

To be expected, this is usually the creative dynamic that trips up almost everyone I know.

[Gnosis5]

RE: Circumcision:

http://www.cco.net/~trufax/matrix5/s...cumcision.html

He is correct, but he again does not take it back to a more basic cause. What I encountered was an overlord being (looked like an Annunaki) on this planet who's reproductive cycle included being a larva. In the larva stage this being had his outer covering thinly sliced. This was a traumatic incident for him and he dramatized it on the human population by requiring males to be circumcised. Since his fellow brothers, as larvae, were also most likely given small cuts (exactly why, I did not see clearly), thus he had some across-the-board agreement.

My guess is that this was done on both species as a means to have the males focus on developing intelligence and zeal in other areas of life. Just a guess.

[TheChosen]

Originally Posted by Christo888

Well 'The Chosen' I might have to agree with you about that quote!

The above 'quote' I do not remember reading in the matrix material so first off is it a misquote to discredit the 'author' or is this what the author thinks? Because if so, then I would have a problem with his thinking about the law of attraction as being only 'like attracts like' and that a final incarnation probably likes the same sex. If that is what the author believes then now I really question all of his material. Sorry but to become gay to be in a final incarnation is extremely laughable if the author wants to be gay then have at it… and ironically 'like repels like' in magnetism. Also, I can tell the author really did not fully define all the arenas of the Law of Attraction as there are many attributes to the generalized term. 'Like attracts like' AND 'opposites also attract,' one just has to learn or understand what situation or circumstance they are currently in in order to 'see' the mechanics of the LOA play out. Male wants female, magnetic field North flows into magnetic field South, negative attracts positive, the darkness attracts the light... the entire universal structure of physicality depends on three things... positive, negative and ground, which are not part of ‘polarity.’

I am going to conclude that the above quote is false and is not from the ‘author’ of the matrix series.

It is a quote I took from the following review

http://www.energygrid.com/spirit/2008/05ap-matrixv.html

I don't know how it is presented in the books. I see now the price for these books is also pretty unreal (around 1K $ in total) ... just go to bittorrent and get them before you buy them so you make sure your money is well invested.. I downloaded several volumes and had a quick glimpse.. definately not something I intend to read.. delete

[annemirri]

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[HORIZONS]

Originally Posted by annemirri

K.
You got me confused, I am like floating, reaching out for something...

walking through walls...

-
There is no link for reader comments in your post > I am lost ...
and then you write "for more than two years, we have been leaking..."

So, YOU ARE A PART OF " WE" ?

Have you been here on projectavalon forum "leaking out" some of the information to the public ? Is that your task ?

Is that where you get your "data", of course I know about your abilities, heightened sensitivity that is very rare in this world, and your dreams,
ability to see within and through time,
no wonder that you got my attention as well, I have been following you like
"a shark follows a ship", playing with you to see when you come out.

I am sorry.

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The post by k626 is from the M5 website, he is not the author of it unless he is The Author.

[gita]

Originally Posted by HORIZONS

The post by k626 is from the M5 website, he is not the author of it unless he is The Author.

I really hope he is the author.

Good detective work Horizons - respect.

[HORIZONS]

Originally Posted by gita

I really hope he is the author.

Good detective work Horizons - respect.

Here is the source:
http://www.trufax.org/matrix5/welcome.html

[gita]

Originally Posted by HORIZONS

Here is the source:
http://www.trufax.org/matrix5/welcome.html

Thanks for the link. Just had a quick look and looks pretty good.

[TheChosen]

Not bad, I read some of the excerpts.. I like the guy's common sense and no-nonsense style .. although the information is rather unrefined and too much built upon the Monroe framework of the astral. The great value is that it is based on practical astral projections.. but when you've had such a strong infuence by the framework of Monroe.. then those astral travels are greatly distorted and filter out any waves that don't fit the framework (for example the Monroe institute made astral projections for months or even years before they met anything alive.. simply because this was not the belief structure of the travelers at the time)

In any case personally I'd recommend Seth Speaks (the 1st book) a lot more.. the same themes explained into a much more dense, refined and inter connected structure from the point of view of 5th density rather than 3rd..

[HORIZONS]

Originally Posted by TheChosen

Not bad, I read some of the excerpts.. I like the guy's common sense and no-nonsense style .. although the information is rather unrefined and too much built upon the Monroe framework of the astral. The great value is that it is based on practical astral projections.. but when you've had such a strong infuence by the framework of Monroe.. then those astral travels are greatly distorted and filter out any waves that don't fit the framework (for example the Monroe institute made astral projections for months or even years before they met anything alive.. simply because this was not the belief structure of the travelers at the time)

In any case personally I'd recommend Seth Speaks (the 1st book) a lot more.. the same themes explained into a much more dense, refined and inter connected structure from the point of view of 5th density rather than 3rd..

Thanks for your remarks, I liked your viewpoint on the possible influence of the Monroe Inst on his experiences. Surely the foundation of our belief structures has a bearing on what we experience, especially in the Astral.

[Moxie]

I've subscribed to this thread! Way back in the mid 80's I began experiencing a frightening phenomena in and around the sleep state as though something was trying to pull me out of my body (this began after I had practiced lucid dreaming for a while). I would wake up (w/body paralysis in the sleep state) and I'd "hear/feel" a frequency that would begin to rise, that felt like something was "taking" me, it was very frightening and would impose itself on me. I never knew when it would happen and took all of my might to resist.

I then wrote Charles Tart (author of Altered States of Consciousness) and he wrote back advising me to get in touch with Robert Monroe. Within a week I met a lady who ("coincidentally") plopped Monroe's book in my hand.. (synchronicity all over the place)... and, come to find that he described ExactLy what was happening to me and referred to himself (and me or anyone else) as the unfortunate ones, those that actually experience the transitioning from lucid mind through the process of going out of body (most people just find themselves out). It began as an imposition for him too.

It was very frightening but his book was comforting in that he gave advice on how to work with it. Anyway, I really didn't want to do that much after awhile as something told me that because of my ignorance of what's out there in the astral, that I might heed caution, which I did. Not to mention that I might examine my belief system. That was the start of it all for me back then, the fringe topics! My experience with the times that I actually made it out of body using his techniques I found that whatever I thought would likely manifest and I knew that I was not in control of my thoughts to such a level that I would be fearless (then)...also I "heard" feminine voices (two) speaking to me that "we are always there to help". I said WhoTF are "we"? I wanted outathere!!!

I went on from there into a spontaneous kundalini rising, now really knowing what it was... all before the internet. Man, how much I've learned since then. Still I'm cautionary but have a mighty intuitive mode that I do trust!

Now here I am immersed in Ash'a Deane's work and now about to order Matrix V. .... much more cognizant of shielding/protection & 2 way communication w/my Higher aspects and such. I'm SO glad I'm not "normal".

Enjoying this thread alot!

[Zeddo]

Can one dive directly into the M5 book or should the earlier books be read first? (I am presuming there are 1,2,3 and 4?)

Z

[HORIZONS]

Originally Posted by Zeddo

Can one dive directly into the M5 book or should the earlier books be read first? (I am presuming there are 1,2,3 and 4?)

Z

See link on post #18 above

You can start on M5 if you are ready - and only you can decide that. There are 4 volumes to the Matrix V series. Matrix 1, 2, 3 and 4 can be found at trufax

[Gnosis5]

Originally Posted by Moxie

I've subscribed to this thread! Way back in the mid 80's I began experiencing a frightening phenomena in and around the sleep state as though something was trying to pull me out of my body (this began after I had practiced lucid dreaming for a while). I would wake up (w/body paralysis in the sleep state) and I'd "hear/feel" a frequency that would begin to rise, that felt like something was "taking" me, it was very frightening and would impose itself on me. I never knew when it would happen and took all of my might to resist.

I then wrote Charles Tart (author of Altered States of Consciousness) and he wrote back advising me to get in touch with Robert Monroe. Within a week I met a lady who ("coincidentally") plopped Monroe's book in my hand.. (synchronicity all over the place)... and, come to find that he described ExactLy what was happening to me and referred to himself (and me or anyone else) as the unfortunate ones, those that actually experience the transitioning from lucid mind through the process of going out of body (most people just find themselves out). It began as an imposition for him too.

It was very frightening but his book was comforting in that he gave advice on how to work with it. Anyway, I really didn't want to do that much after awhile as something told me that because of my ignorance of what's out there in the astral, that I might heed caution, which I did. Not to mention that I might examine my belief system. That was the start of it all for me back then, the fringe topics! My experience with the times that I actually made it out of body using his techniques I found that whatever I thought would likely manifest and I knew that I was not in control of my thoughts to such a level that I would be fearless (then)...also I "heard" feminine voices (two) speaking to me that "we are always there to help". I said WhoTF are "we"? I wanted outathere!!!

I went on from there into a spontaneous kundalini rising, now really knowing what it was... all before the internet. Man, how much I've learned since then. Still I'm cautionary but have a mighty intuitive mode that I do trust!

Now here I am immersed in Ash'a Deane's work and now about to order Matrix V. .... much more cognizant of shielding/protection & 2 way communication w/my Higher aspects and such. I'm SO glad I'm not "normal".

Enjoying this thread alot!

Hello Moxie, it is because of posters like yourself that I am attracted to this forum.

[annemirri]

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