Bill Ryan's thread

[Wulfher]

Hello Bill and Carry,

Thx for your great efforts into Disclosures!
Please keep up the good Work, it's most appreciated by all who seek the Truth.

best regards

Wulfher

[WarriorServant]

Bill, are you and Kerry getting along?

Are you seeing eye to eye?

Do you envision that Kerry and yourself will be working close together in 12 months or 2 years?

[Bill Ryan]

Hello, Everyone -

A warm welcome to all the new members - and new visitors. Thanks again for all the very positive comments. This is the energy that really keeps us going. If there was no-one out there, we'd not be doing our work.

Some good questions here.... please forgive the necessary brevity, or else the reply might be a small book. Also please forgive me if I've missed anything (re-post if necessary). I've also not responded to anything that isn't actually a question - although everything you wrote is noted and appreciated.

All the quotes are abbreviated to make the questions easier to read.

Originally Posted by lightblue

I wondered if you have heard anything from Gordon Novel lately.

He's having a tough time at the moment, and is not that much further forward with his project in practical terms.

Originally Posted by qbeac

Questions:
- Is Sheldan Nidle info or disinfo?
- Will there be huge earth changes and earth evacuation, as he says?
- Will you consider interviewing him?

Not intentional disinfo (few people probably are). My knowledge of him is limited, and we've not met or corresponded with him. So there may be much of what he says that I'm not aware of.

I'd say much of his information is generally valuable (he overlaps in some respects with David Wilcock, as best I can see).

I don't anticipate any 'evacuation', and I think we've got to dig ourselves out of this planetary mess, for better or for worse. This is our responsibility, and is our 'training course' to handle it - which we've all signed up for, so to speak.

I don't think it's as simple as our getting rescued: no-one's going to get raptured or ascended out of this situation. That (in my view) is wishful thinking, a New Age equivalent of the traditional Christian view that "God will save me". (Sometimes God doesn't do that: we have to look after ourselves - and in my view this is the point.)

We wish him well but have no plans to interview him. His work - like that of many others - is valuable to wake people up and get them thinking. But don't believe anything you hear or read - including this You have to work quite hard out there to figure out what's real and valid - and that's part of the learning, too.

I talk about this subject quite a lot in the new video interview published by Freedom Central. Within 48 hours we'll be uploading a version in one long video on our own YouTube channel, together with an audio MP3 of the entire thing.

Recommended listening: it's really not bad, and contains a LOT of information.

Originally Posted by rfebres

The number of "V" ships that arrived on earth (29). If your start from this date: 4(April)2010 which is first month after the episodes resume, and add 29(ships) months to that you get Sept 2012, now add the sequence above (count down) and you get December 2012. Am I crazy? The funny thing though is that I was sending this info to David through his contact page and when I clicked the send button I looked at my computer clock and guess what time it was? 12:12. What do you guys think?

Personally, I don't pay much attention to gematria (seeking meaningful patterns in numbers): it seems to me, as a one-time mathematician, that it's possible to create the patterns one would like to see out of absolutely anything - a kind of numerical Rorschach test.

I don't want to rain on your parade or dismiss anything you find interesting or valuable, but for me I can't see any logical basis to explain how this would or could work.

The Illuminati DO use ritual dates and ritual numbers, but I think it's just that (ritual) - and if the force of intention and actual, real-life black magic is behind ritual, then real effects can be made to happen. This may be the point. I don't the standalone numbers have any meaning or power. But the people who use them ritualistically may do.

Originally Posted by migp

What can we expect for the economy next year....could you address on what Mr. Benjamin Fulford says in his blog.....is it going to be a drastic change in the world economy, including the use of hidden technilogy?

We're following this closely and probably know as much as you do. We'd not be surprised to see a sudden devaluation of the dollar sometime early next year.

We're as convinced as we can be that gold and silver are valuable assets (hold the physical metal yourself - paper and digits are just that, and are ultimately not real currency at all). In our view this can do absolutely no harm at all. One will not lose.

On a slightly different line, it can also do no harm to stock up with very basic staples and remedies (like D3, silver and MMS) to last for 30 days or so. I personally could hole up in my apartment for several weeks without once going outside and stay happy and comfortable whatever was happening.

It doesn't cost a lot of time or trouble to set that up, and this basic 'insurance' is still cheap and easy to set up. There's absolutely no reason not to do that - and even our friend David Wilcock now recommends it.

Our deepest sources say that the world is more likely to go into a controlled slide rather than a sudden catastrophe (geopolitically, economically, and regarding controls on people, travel, communication, etc).

But we really don't know for sure, and that's because the plans may not be fixed, or may be being interfered with internally and possibly externally.

Originally Posted by TheRebel

When you were doing Mr. Peterson's interview and while concluding you told that it has been most fascinating interview you had done so far!! We all know that he did share some of the inside information with you all off the camera, but he was restricted on camera; so would not it be a good idea if you can share some of those information wherever feasible to do so as we really did not find much fascination in that interview.....One quick request is that...Would you like to interview "Drunvalo Melchizedek"?

Dr Peterson: watch Kerry's segment of the interview (Part 3) and note carefully his responses to the questions Kerry asks.

The very closing segment of Part 2, as well, which is hilarious. If anyone's not seen this, you must. Go to 53:00 and play. Or just go straight to the end and rewind for a minute.

Drunvalo: no plans to interview him.

Originally Posted by Midnight Oil

Are you planning to do an interview with Lou Baldin( aka "Sleeper")?.

No plans. We communicated with him once, but he lives in the US midwest and our paths would never cross without a special (and expensive) trip.

Originally Posted by geoff

Are you aware of and what is your and/or kerry's opinion of the works of (paris france based) Laura Knight-Jadczyk?

thirdly, are you aware of and what your and/or kerry's opinion of the works of (australia based) Dr. Amitakh Stanford?

Laura is a critic of Camelot and writes disparagingly about us on her forum. We are mystified why. We have no quarrel with her and never have had. We broadly agree with most of her views on most people and issues.

We linked to her site here, early in November (right hand sidebar):

http://projectcamelot.org/index_1_November.html

Kerry posted that, because she admires Laura's work. At the time she had no idea that Laura had written that we were disinfo, paid agents, etc etc. The link from our site to hers, posted by Kerry in all sincerity, caused some consternation and disbelief on Laura's forum.

Please note that we just don't have time to follow discussion on forums (even this one) and are often simply not aware that someone is critical of us. That doesn't affect our own opinions, or our own work.

Every now and then we suddenly discover that someone we thought was an ally (like Michael St.Clair) has turned on us. We have to be thick-skinned about these things.

Dr. Amitakh Stanford: not at all familiar. Thanks for the info - will check him out.

Originally Posted by Landulous

. Is there any way to load a file, specifically Omini Page 15?
2. Is there any way to load a few audio files?

No idea, I'm afraid - please address the mods about this.

Originally Posted by qbeac

Questions:
- Can we trust Dr. Steven Greer, or not?
- Is he sincere in wanting to bring to light Free Energy?
- Is he honest or a double agent (gatekeeper, infiltrated)?
- Does he work for a real contact with “positive ETs”, or for Project Blue Beam (faked or "negative ETs")?

Is Dr. Greer an honest person (or being), or does he have a hidden dark agenda? Does he work for the light or for the dark side?

These are just 3 examples about Dr. Greer that, IMHO, don’t add up too well:

1) Dr. Greer says all ETs are good. But in your excellent interview with him (jul-26-09) you and Kerry said that was an irresponsible statement, and I totally agree with you.

2) I witnessed the incident in the Barcelona Exopolitics Summit (jul-26-09) where some people said they were allegedly intimidated (or threatened) by Dr. Greer when they talked to him about their own Free Energy devices. I am aware it is not yet clear what really happened (Ex: if the accusations against Dr. Greer were true or just a misunderstanding), but still, that incident is kind of suspicious and I think it should be clarified.

3) Dr. Greer says he wants to help people to develop their Free Energy devices. Well, Bill, you saw the “Pantone GEET motor” in Barcelona (jul-26-09): 30% gasoline 70% water and a huge reduction of pollution. It's important to note that his inventor, Paul Pantone, has given for free the plans of his invention so that EVERYBODY can replicate it (see video bellow).

So, if Dr. Greer is sincere about wanting to promote Free Energy devices, here he has a great one: Pantone motor. Would he promote the Pantone motor (in CNN, as he said in Barcelona)? If he did, that would be a very simple, quick and excellent way for people to see for themselves this technology is real and it works. Also, the word would spread all over the world!

Paul's Comments About GEET FREE PLANS
Paul Pantone gives for free to the world his plans to build the Pantone motor
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OXrHLNRmCOk

Detailed instructions to build the Pantone motor
http://www.panaceauniversity.org/GEE...20procesor.pdf

But the “strange” fact is that Dr. Greer “is not” promoting such as simple demonstration of an effective Free Energy device like the Pantone GEET motor (or similar devices). Why doesn’t he do it ASAP?

Considering the above, one may wonder about these two possible “hypothesis”:

a) Is Dr. Greer sincere when he says he wants to bring to light Free Energy, or is he perhaps a double agent (gatekeeper) who is trying to identify the best Free Energy devices (to suppress them?), while at the same time he is buying time to help bringing to fruition the elite’s dark agenda?

b) Is Dr. Greer working for a “real contact” with “good ETs”, or is he working for Project Blue Beam?

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Wow. (long pause)

In some ways I'd rather not comment. But your questions are very important.

Let me say this:

1) Look at the promises, and then look at what has been delivered since The DIsclosure Project Press Conference in May 2001. We started Camelot ourselves in April 2006 because of the huge silence coming from the Disclosure Project.

We considered ourself to be doing the Disclosure Project's work, in a 'barefoot' sense. We could not understand at the time why more information was not being released by him.

2) Many researchers and commentators in the UFO community share our questions, but are too intimidated by Greer (or reluctant to get drawn into controversy or conflict) to make an issue out of it. He is ignored by many researchers who have good information. They know better. So they just leave him alone.

A number of researchers have approached us off-record to acknowledge our stance. Here's a direct quote to me personally from one widely-respected researcher: "There is something very wrong with that guy."

3) The three items we singled out - that he said, on record:
-- that there are no ETs who are not benevolent
-- that the US has no ongoing contact with any ET race
-- and that all abductions are military operations [MILABs])

...are absolutely false.

Why would anyone who is well-informed by the testimony of his own witnesses say that?

4) His ethics and values are open to question. Visit this page and scroll down to the very bottom. Then click on the DCMusclewolf link. It is real.

After this was leaked, within hours Greer closed his Manhunt account.

Our interview was NOT a good one. We'd love to turn back the clock and do it again. But in our radio show archives I defended Kerry's passion, and still do.

It could all have been better. We were not prepared, and were ambushed by Greer himself who suddenly declared that he wanted to be interviewed. We were caught very much on the hop. We'd like to do it again... but rather doubt if we will ever have the chance.

Our favorite response in our huge mailbag about that interview was that from Clay and Shawn Pickering who told us that the passion and disagreement on these core issues exactly mirrored the disagreement and passion at the highest levels of policy. We can believe it.

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No time for more right now, with apologies - will try to get back later in the day.

Warm wishes to all - Bill

[LucidJia]

Wow thanks Bill!

When are you comming to New Zealand to do some Mountain climbing with me? Some pretty amazing climbs here!!

[Jetamus]

wait... so greer posted nude pics of himself proclaiming he liked rimming on a gay dating website?

seriously, I thought i was going to look at a article he wrote or something, only to be bombarded with...that.

thank god no one else was in the room.

[Steve_A]

Hi Jetamus,

I was a little shocked too I must admit.

Although I'm in no way supporting the chap, I'm not too sure about the link there is to be made about Greers' sexual lifestyle and his work in the Extra-Terrestrial / free energy sphere (unless the three are linked in some way).

I think when a person or people start to slur others on a personal basis, their argument is lost as it's clear that there is no other way to prove the adversary wrong on a logical basis.

Oh well, that's life I suppose.

Best regards,

Steve

Originally Posted by Jetamus

wait... so greer posted nude pics of himself proclaiming he liked rimming on a gay dating website?

seriously, I thought i was going to look at a article he wrote or something, only to be bombarded with...that.

thank god no one else was in the room.

[viking]

Originally Posted by Steve_A

Hi Jetamus,

I was a little shocked too I must admit.

Although I'm in no way supporting the chap, I'm not too sure about the link there is to be made about Greers' sexual lifestyle and his work in the Extra-Terrestrial / free energy sphere (unless the three are linked in some way).

I think when a person or people start to slur others on a personal basis, their argument is lost as it's clear that there is no other way to prove the adversary wrong on a logical basis.

Oh well, that's life I suppose.

Best regards,

Steve

Surely this can't be true!!!

How do we know if these piccies are of him?

viking

[Steve_A]

viking - Do we really care?

Originally Posted by viking

Surely this can't be true!!!

How do we know if these piccies are of him?

viking

[viking]

Originally Posted by Steve_A

viking - Do we really care?

Yes ...I do, I have a lot of respect for Greer and would like to know if he is presenting himself in a different light or he is hiding behind a mask so to speak... Don't get me wrong I am not homophobic, but if the pics are for real it puts him in a slightly Different light!!

Viking

[Moxie]

It's wonderful of you to stop by.

What are your thoughts and/or recommendations for shielding ones self over and above contact w/one's higher self, oversoul & godmind/consciousness?

I tend to steer clear of beliefs, in a certain god or archangels etc... it would be good to hear your thoughts on this matter as I am very interested in Ashayana Deane's work, very interested. And thank you very much for your time.

[Carol]

Originally Posted by Steve_A

viking - Do we really care?

I agree with you Steve. Not for one minute do I accept this BS being dished out about Dr. Greer and it would not surprise me if pics and such are a set up by those who wish to discredit him. He has been involved in this for over 30 years and the Johnny come latelys have a long ways to go to when it comes to gathering the info that Greer has collected over the years. He is probably one of the most spiritual men I know of and this continuing slandering of him by members here on this forum disgusts me.

[eleni]

Just because one is gay doesn't mean they are not highly spiritual........

Derek- thanks for that link- am watching it now. Interesting.

[Phtha]

Geeze... I think its painfully obvious why those in the spot light never post on their own forums. Words get taken wayyyyy out of context.

You have made it quite clear that you've been disgusted with camelot and this forum for some time soooo.... Need I ask the obvious question?

Originally Posted by Carol

. He is probably one of the most spiritual men I know of and this continuing slandering of him by members here on this forum disgusts me.

[SWIFT]

Gooday BILL & KERRY,

Q.1 Is their anychance of PC doing an update interview with Mr Richard Hoagland and Professor Farrell (2010)?

Q.2 Furthermore, Author Professor Michio Kaku and Author Mr Richard Phillips of "Second Ship " (2009) for 2010?

Q.3 Bill do you think ETs are abducting humans for resources or is it a coverstory for mind control operations instead by big brother ?

Cheers
SWIFTY

[Aztar]

How about an Interview with Nassim Haramein?
I don't think he can be classified as a whistle blower but he is looking into some interesting Physics.
He just received an award for best physics paper.

The Schwarzschild Proton
http://www.theresonanceproject.org/b...per_award.html

Besides I'm pretty sure he is an Alien

[Jetamus]

Originally Posted by Steve_A

Hi Jetamus,

I was a little shocked too I must admit.

Although I'm in no way supporting the chap, I'm not too sure about the link there is to be made about Greers' sexual lifestyle and his work in the Extra-Terrestrial / free energy sphere (unless the three are linked in some way).

I think when a person or people start to slur others on a personal basis, their argument is lost as it's clear that there is no other way to prove the adversary wrong on a logical basis.

Oh well, that's life I suppose.

Best regards,

Steve

yeah
He can do whatever he wants in his personal life

George Michael for example admits to cottaging regularly, but that doesn't make his music any less enjoyable.

Too bad for Greer this will be used against him.
its not like disclosure people aren't ridiculed enough already.

edit:

Originally Posted by Derek

If he was putting naked pictures of himself on a heterosexual sex website it would have the same reaction. Its not because hes gay its because he is clearly soliciting himself for sex and he has a wife and children.

he has a wife and kids!?

[Unified Serenity]

Originally Posted by Bill Ryan

4) His ethics and values are open to question. Visit this page and scroll down to the very bottom. Then click on the DCMusclewolf link. It is real.

After this was leaked, within hours Greer closed his Manhunt account.

Warm wishes to all - Bill

I went to the link you posted Bill, and I did not see anything on DCMusclewolf. Sooooo.... I did a google search and found a pdf file of dcmusclewolf which showed a male nude saying what he was into. Was this what you were referring to?

I noted he states his status is negative... which I know refers to HIV, but could it also be his energy? I am not a Greer fan, and thought the interview revealed a lot about Greer. Thanks for all the work you do.

I hope you are not anti-gay as if that says something about ones spirituality or something. I just don't like Greer or the lack of real disclosure. I think his focus on positive is fine, but it's ludicrous to say there are no negative ET's and that all abductions are MILAB.

My best to you and Kerry. Keep the powder dry so to speak.

Unified Serenity

[IMU]

Well... that Greer Manhunt page really shocked me! I've always had a strong doubt about his sexuality but this really blew me away... I'm NOT homophobic at all but this really questions his credibility, motifs and intentions on the level of his public work. This may not have any effect to Disclosure but certainly to his personal life. I kinda liked him and still don't know what to make of this whole thing... Wow. At least he doesn't like drugs which is respectable in itself...

[WarriorServant]

Originally Posted by IMU

Well... that Greer Manhunt page really shocked me! I've always had a strong doubt about his sexuality but this really blew me away... I'm NOT homophobic at all but this really questions his credibility, motifs and intentions on the level of his public work. This may not have any effect to Disclosure but certainly to his personal life. I kinda liked him and still don't know what to make of this whole thing... Wow. At least he doen't like drugs which is respectable in itself...

Greer's efforts serve two purposes.

1). He is to capture the attention of anyone who believes that UFO's and aliens exist. He is to collect donations from them (which prevents donations to going to other, more sincere organizations). He is to make sure that any REAL "evidence" doesn't see the light of day. He is to use the money that he makes, covertly discouraging and discrediting truth in these matters.

2). He is to capture the attention of anyone trying to invent, find, or otherwise finance "free energy". He is to use the money that he makes, covertly discouraging and discrediting truth in these matters also -- and to make sure free energy doesn't become a reality.

Dr Greer is a wolf in sheeps clothing. He is not sincere. He is a government operative. You'd all do well to steer WELL clear of him an d his efforts and if he requests information from you (AND HE WILL, IF HE THINKS YOU'VE GOT SOME), do NOT give it to him. Be careful of anyone who is tied to or close with Greer also, because what ever conversations you have with them will NOT be confidential.

You've been warned.

[oxiigen]

Hi Bill,

It took me a while to find something important, but important in a way that is not important only for me, but for a humanity as a whole. That's more tricky to find! Yes, it took me a few days... But I think I got something finally! \o/

Marko Rodin said: "I found the language of God. I found the perfection mathematically. I claim that I discovered the first linear non-banding above the known elements. The Superparticle."

So, my question is actually a wish: Bill, Please talk with Marko Rodin! Your conversation with Marko is really something that I (& many others I believe) would LOVE to experience!

& Thank you for your existence Bill!

P.S., I will copy part of this also in my placeholder on a front page...

[IMU]

Originally Posted by WarriorServant

Greer's efforts serve two purposes.

1). He is to capture the attention of anyone who believes that UFO's and aliens exist. He is to collect donations from them (which prevents donations to going to other, more sincere organizations). He is to make sure that any REAL "evidence" doesn't see the light of day. He is to use the money that he makes, covertly discouraging and discrediting truth in these matters.

2). He is to capture the attention of anyone trying to invent, find, or otherwise finance "free energy". He is to use the money that he makes, covertly discouraging and discrediting truth in these matters also -- and to make sure free energy doesn't become a reality.

Dr Greer is a wolf in sheeps clothing. He is not sincere. He is a government operative. You'd all do well to steer WELL clear of him an d his efforts and if he requests information from you (AND HE WILL, IF HE THINKS YOU'VE GOT SOME), do NOT give it to him. Be careful of anyone who is tied to or close with Greer also, because what ever conversations you have with them will NOT be confidential.

You've been warned.

I wonder what the reactions are from guys who supported him wholeheartedly like Bassett and others... I personally like Bassett a lot!

[WarriorServant]

Originally Posted by IMU

I wonder what the reactions are from guys who supported him wholeheartedly like Bassett and others... I personally like Bassett a lot!

Do not trust Greer or anyone closely/intricately associated with him.

[Sarahmay]

Thanks for the archive of Kerry's radio show!

[IMU]

Originally Posted by WarriorServant

Do not trust Greer or anyone closely/intricately associated with him.

And how do you know that? What is your source?

[IMU]

And anyway, who found that page about Greer on a gay-finder site? How can someone find these things? How?