Continental Congress 2009

[Seashore]

Independence Hall, Philadelphia

Bob Schulz of the We the People Foundation is organizing a Continental Congress to restore the U.S. Constitution.

It will take place November 9 - 22, 2009. The location has not been determined yet.

[Seashore]

I don't think this Stewart Swerdlow Illuminati News post has anything to do with this, but I would appreciate help from Avalon researchers to verify...

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"February 1, 2009
End Of USA

Quietly, with no media coverage, each state of the US is looking at a Constitutional Convention, which would in affect, eradicate the US as we know it, paving the way to the North American Union.

Only two more states are needed to ratify the call for the Convention, which would edit and rewrite the Constitution.

Obama is in favor of this--which may be why he is in office."
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One is a Constitutional Convention, the other is a Continental Congress.

One is official and is Constitutional, I believe. It would be supposedly to amend the Constitution.

The other is not official, it is a grassroots project to restore the Constitution (including the Bill of Rights) that we have, which has basically been torn to shreds by the powers that be.

That's my take.

What do the rest of you think?

[orthodoxymoron]

The Continental Congress 2009 looks very cool. There are a lot of people who are trying to help...and do the right thing.

A Constitutional Convention(Con Con) would be a total disaster...which is probably what the corrupt PTB want.

[Seashore]

Originally Posted by orthodoxymoron

The Continental Congress 2009 looks very cool. There are a lot of people who are trying to help...and do the right thing.

A Constitutional Convention(Con Con) would be a total disaster...which is probably what the corrupt PTB want.

Okay so you agree with me that we must not confuse these two events?

They're two entirely different things...

I'm interested in any information people have about this proposed Continental Congress in November of this year.

It's giving me hope...

[Seashore]

Besides Bob Schulz, here is a list of people who are associated with this project:

1. Dr Bob Frady
2. Michael Badnarik
3. Ernest Hancock
4. Adam Kokesh
5. E. Guy Cunningham
6. G. Edward Griffin
7. Katherine Albrecht
8. Clyde Cleveland

[TruthWillSetUFree]

Thank you for making the thread and the distinction between the two.

That is interesting that Obama is for changing the Constitution, well he did promise change didn't he?

I think we all need to align ourselves with the people of light who are working so hard to get back to our Constitutional rights or it will be taken away from us under the cover of darkness and we will awake to an unfamiliar world.

[Seashore]

I just clicked on my state, Virginia, on the interactive map the website has...

One of the things on the page for Virginia is:

Virginia State News

4/14/2009
New TalkShoe Accounts are UP...

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Huh?

Anyone ever heard of "TalkShoe Accounts"?

[Seashore]

30 second TV advertisements for this are being worked on. The Foundation would have to pay for the air time unless network affiliates accept them as public service announcements (PSA's).

Here are links to 2 works in progress:

"Does Not Defend Itself"
"Jefferson Prediction"


I like them...

[Humble Janitor]

Pffff. We can move beyond the constitution and come up with a BETTER document that will be leaps and bounds above it.

[orthodoxymoron]

Originally Posted by Humble Janitor

Pffff. We can move beyond the constitution and come up with a BETTER document that will be leaps and bounds above it.

Wouldn't this be reinventing the wheel? We might end up with a wheel which looks like the Star of David. Who would decide which new document to use? This new document would not have a history or a track record. Is the United Nations Charter such a superior document? Does it not already supercede the U.S. Constitution? At this point...such a formulative effort would most likely be motivated by a hatred of Responsible Freedom...and would lead to anarchy...which would be quickly followed by tyranny. Is this what is being planned for the United States...and the world? The U.S. Constitution and the Red Letter Teachings of Jesus are two of the biggest enemies of the New World Order. Freedom vs Tyranny. Decisions...Decisions.

[Seashore]

Here is a description of the intent of the event, from this page of the We the People Foundation website:


Continental Congress 2009

Later this year delegates representing the People of the fifty states will convene as a national assembly to publicly debate our Government's abuses of the Constitution and to consider practical strategies which can bring about compliance with our Freedom documents, not only in our government at all levels, but in our individual lives.

The Continental Congress 2009 will be an undertaking of historical importance as we follow the example of our Founding Fathers, to gather together and discuss the state of our Nation to restore the Light of Liberty.

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I'm not sure about adding the words "in our individual lives" in addition to "government at all levels." It seems that compliance by the government at all levels is all that is called for...

Also it says Freedom documents, plural, so I wonder what that means, too...

[Humble Janitor]

Originally Posted by orthodoxymoron

Wouldn't this be reinventing the wheel? We might end up with a wheel which looks like the Star of David. Who would decide which new document to use? This new document would not have a history or a track record. Is the United Nations Charter such a superior document? Does it not already supercede the U.S. Constitution? At this point...such a formulative effort would most likely be motivated by a hatred of Responsible Freedom...and would lead to anarchy...which would be quickly followed by tyranny. Is this what is being planned for the United States...and the world? The U.S. Constitution and the Red Letter Teachings of Jesus are two of the biggest enemies of the New World Order. Freedom vs Tyranny. Decisions...Decisions.

The Constitution is not a holy document, nor is it perfect.

Sorry to burst your bubble there.

[orthodoxymoron]

Originally Posted by Humble Janitor

The Constitution is not a holy document, nor is it perfect.

Sorry to burst your bubble there.

No need to be sorry. My bubble burst a long time ago. The Constitution is neither holy nor perfect...but it doesn't need to be to do it's job.

Many people consider the Holy Bible to be a holy and perfect document. What do you think?

[Seashore]

Originally Posted by orthodoxymoron

Many people consider the Holy Bible to be a holy and perfect document. What do you think?

Please start a new thread for this topic.

Originally Posted by Humble Janitor

Pffff. We can move beyond the constitution and come up with a BETTER document that will be leaps and bounds above it.

HJ - I was so upset by your "Pffff" that I didn't notice your new avatar.

It's funny!

[Seashore]

Here is a good YouTube video outlining the need for a project to restore the U.S. Constitution into operation:

[Seashore]

It's interesting to note the budget for this undertaking:

Continental Congress 2009
COSTS

The costs of CC 2009 fall into five principal categories:

1. The cost of informing and educating the body politic about the Continental Congress: what it is, why it is being convened, what the issues are, what’s at stake and the importance of reaching a critical mass of people (5% or more) willing to consider the justification of the course of action recommended by the delegates to the Continental Congress 2009 to bring the government back under the control of the Constitution.

2. The cost of transporting, lodging and feeding up to 153 delegates.

3. The cost of licensed stenographers and preparing an official, written transcript of the proceedings.

4. The cost of live web casting of the entire proceedings.

5. The cost of a team of professional independent contractors required to organize and manage the myriad of tasks required for a successful Continental Congress 2009.

6. Contingencies: special AV equipment, transportation costs for delegates who need financial assistance, service fees, overruns, etc.


Our best estimate of are as follows:

$1.3 million for Media Buys for July thru October.

$100K for event sponsorship (Freedom Keeper events that will help leverage awareness).

$300K for lodging and meals for delegates and staff.

$50K for stenographic services.

$600K for live Web Casting.

$200K for ten (10) Independent Contractors for six (6) months.

$300K for contingencies and miscellaneous logistics costs.

[Seashore]

...Also it says Freedom documents, plural, so I wonder what that means, too...

I think now that this is referring to State Constitutions across the nation in addition to the U.S. Constitution.

[Humble Janitor]

Originally Posted by no caste

HJ - I was so upset by your "Pffff" that I didn't notice your new avatar.

It's funny!

No need to be upset. I just think we're past the point of doing what a piece of paper says.

[Seashore]

Originally Posted by Humble Janitor

No need to be upset...

I think each of us should speak only for ourselves about our own particular feelings.

[Humble Janitor]

Originally Posted by seashore

I think each of us should speak only for ourselves about our own particular feelings.

I'm not sure what you're getting at here.

[Seashore]

Originally Posted by Humble Janitor

I'm not sure what you're getting at here.

I'm referring to this:

Originally Posted by no caste

HJ - I was so upset by your "Pffff"...

Originally Posted by Humble Janitor

No need to be upset...

[Humble Janitor]

I'm afraid I cannot be friends with someone who wishes to stifle what I am saying.

When you become a moderator, you can "control" threads all you want. Until then, I will say what I want.

[Seashore]

Originally Posted by Humble Janitor

...I will say what I want.

Your choice!

[mntruthseeker]

Originally Posted by Humble Janitor

Pffff. We can move beyond the constitution and come up with a BETTER document that will be leaps and bounds above it.

I absolutely 100 % agree with what you are saying here. What we have now is of no value as it has been "cancelled out" several times over. Look at all the laws that have been changed over the years. Doesnt mean anything because Washington DC is not held accountable to it

I do believe that one should be a natural born citizen of the United States of America to be president though. So that there are no conflicts of interest in their rulings. Like that would change their minds............But its all we the people have.

I say we must enforce the original writings and it needs to apply to all states and if washington DC is not truly a state........IT NEEDS CHANGING