Knowing and freedom

BROOK · 08-05-2009, 09:47 PM

After reading the last couple of days, I decided to rejoin for a time to sort some things that have been bothering me.

When I left it was due to the fact that separation was of key importance and starting radiant zones was in the making...and being Advertised. Not a good idea....in my opinion.

The Welcome to Avalon home page:

Our goals:
• To provide important information and resources to enable individuals and communities to function optimally in what may be troubled times ahead.

• To support aware individuals in networking and forming groups as they wish.

Our philosophy:

• As stated by George Green in the Project Camelot interview Messages for the Ground Crew, there exist individuals and groups, all over the world, who have an important responsibility and role to play in the preservation of civilization regardless which scenarios may play out.

• These possible scenarios - which include planned financial collapse, war, and population reduction by covert means - can be prevented and changed by the united intention of many concerned individuals. Many of us are working to prepare and awaken others. We know that our efforts to create a new tomorrow will not be in vain. We acknowledge the Ground Crew all over the globe - including (we are confident) ethical and principled individuals within military and intelligence circles worldwide.

• We believe it's prudent to make contingency plans. This site is created to help you do that.

Setting goals for contingency plans is not a bad thing....however I had a huge problem with taking the energy you possess to a centralized spot to isolate from the world.

In the last couple of weeks there have been many here upset by the goals of the PTB....Whistleblowers , informers, people in the knowing....who are these people you are all fighting about?

They are nothing different then you or I..they are humans, seeking TRUTH and KNOWING.

We are all here searching for truth and knowing...but the most important thing you need to realize is you already have the truth.

It's embedded within every cell of our body....all you need to do is tap into it..what is preventing you from tapping into it....it this...

EGO

The ego driven by fear, self imposed lies, and blind acceptance.

Why do you need anyone to tell you what you already KNOW?
It's in you..and very soon ..you will have the ability to freely tap into it....that is what TPTB are afraid of right now.
They would love to see you all run to radiant zones and separate your self to throw the energy of that knowing off from the grid.

I kept asking myself why I was so drawn to Southern California?..I have always know it's been said that it's going to fall into the ocean..so why am I drawn here?

I'm here to keep the energy stable..along with many others here, and many who are not even aware they're doing just that.

So hopefully it will not be the complete end, and just a major rebuild. And when that happens...as I've seen in my dreams...I will be there ...Am I running to a safe zone? No..I'm staying right here with my community.

I've seen bright minds leave here..who I have cherished every word of..I have seen threads calling out BS on paid for whistleblowers, who speak as if they already know...
Do they really know?
Do you all really know?
Do I really know?

My ego fights a battle with me every day...and so does yours..it's something you cannot run from. It's always there. As long as you are in this 3D existence...you will have to deal with it...getting it under control by KNOWING is the KEY!

Are you going to go off the words of other ego driven ones that tell their truth? Or are you going to search your own truth...it's up to you what you let your ego take control of.

You all want freedom......

Ahhhh FREEDOM!

Most people do not really want freedom, because freedom involves responsibility, and most people are frightened of responsibility." -- Sigmund Freud

In his book Nobody’s Victim, Christopher J. McCullough explains, "In order to live your freedom, you must first accept reality. ‘These are the choices, and given those choices, which do I choose?’ Whether the option you select is pleasant or painful does not alter the fact that, given reality, this is your preference.
"To live your freedom, it is helpful to stop and ask yourself, ‘Why am I doing this?’ and then notice whether, given the options, you are choosing what you really want, or whether you want to choose something else.... Sometimes the exercise of freedom involves naming your poison -- all choices may lead to outcomes that are in some way painful. But the real pain is that of feeling powerless -- denying your freedom."

"Freedom is man's capacity to take a hand in his own development. It is our capacity to mold ourselves."
-- Dr. Rollo May

Some of the greatest prophets have told you ..you have nothing to fear but fear itself.

another said, Let them alone: they be blind leaders of the blind

don't let the blind lead your truth...when you meditate..do only one thing..meditate on one thing alone.....KNOWING...it's within you

Bless you all
Brook

tone3jaguar · 08-05-2009, 10:46 PM

I agree, the actual meaning of ego is who you believe you are in this world. This guy has an ego, that guy has an ego? I think a while back people started confusing the words arrogance and ego and somehow ego got tagged as an appropriate adjective to describe arrogant people.

Am I arrogant? Depends on what side of the desk you are sitting on. If the observer of my style of communication does not agree with the message then the perception is that I am arrogant. However, if the observer agrees with the message then the perception is that I am valiant.

Do I spend any significant time worrying about which way the perceptions are going? No I do not. I learned a long time ago that focusing on how one is being judged by others is a complete waste of time and muddies the waters of intuition.

People should say what ever they feel they need to say. If it ruffles feathers than so be it. No one ever changed anything for the better by playing it safe and walking on egg shells all of the time.

Anchor · 08-06-2009, 02:30 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BROOK

I decided to rejoin for a time to sort some things that have been bothering me.

I am glad you are back, and that was a cracking good post !!!

A..

Unified Serenity · 08-06-2009, 02:42 AM

It's nice to have you back. We each definitely have our own path. I'm not sure it is running to leave the rat race, as it could be choosing to walk a better more peaceful path and show our children a different way.

giovonni · 08-06-2009, 04:01 AM

Greeting's my Friend
So wonderful too see you back and feel your presence!

Your words
"My ego fights a battle with me every day...and so does yours..it's something you cannot run from. It's always there. As long as you are in this 3D existence...you will have to deal with it...getting it under control by KNOWING is the KEY!

Are you going to go off the words of other ego driven ones that tell their truth? Or are you going to search your own truth...it's up to you what you let your ego take control of.

You all want freedom......

Ahhhh FREEDOM!"

This is very profound ~ and hopefully will reasonates with all here.

I very much agree with this
Much love always<>too you BROOK<>Gio

BROOK · 08-06-2009, 04:40 AM

If you can get past the intensity of Jake and his EGO in the part one video...there is very good information there.
Here is part two and three...very good enlightening information.

burgundia · 08-06-2009, 07:00 AM

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Originally Posted by tone3jaguar

I agree, the actual meaning of ego is who you believe you are in this world. This guy has an ego, that guy has an ego? I think a while back people started confusing the words arrogance and ego and somehow ego got tagged as an appropriate adjective to describe arrogant people.

Am I arrogant? Depends on what side of the desk you are sitting on. If the observer of my style of communication does not agree with the message then the perception is that I am arrogant. However, if the observer agrees with the message then the perception is that I am valiant.

Do I spend any significant time worrying about which way the perceptions are going? No I do not. I learned a long time ago that focusing on how one is being judged by others is a complete waste of time and muddies the waters of intuition.

People should say what ever they feel they need to say. If it ruffles feathers than so be it. No one ever changed anything for the better by playing it safe and walking on egg shells all of the time.

mudra · 08-06-2009, 09:05 AM

Oops sorry double posting

mudra · 08-06-2009, 09:10 AM

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Originally Posted by BROOK

Welcome back Brook. Your presence is appreciated here.

When I left it was due to the fact that separation was of key importance and starting radiant zones was in the making...and being Advertised. Not a good idea....in my opinion.

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[COLOR=Plum][I][B] Setting goals for contingency plans [COLOR=Cyan]is not a bad thing....however I had a huge problem with taking the energy you possess to a centralized spot to isolate from the world.

I see it this way it's not the world that creates us but we who are creating the world.
The one we are in right now is a sinking ship with lots of holes and leaks into it.
The values it holds don't guarantee peace and a decent place to live for the whole of humanity.
While some as you and me and many others on this planet are staying in the front patching the wounds by offering our light and our hearts others in the back yard are aiming at the construction of a fresh new boat. I think this is only fair and sound. This is consciousness at work and evolving from chrysalis to free butterfly.
Life is about changes and freedom is being where one feels he has to be to fullfill his role in the co-creation of the higher plan.
Feel the love and Know that this is unity at work and that we all stand in ONE world.

[COLOR=Cyan]We are all here searching for truth and knowing...but the most important thing you need to realize is you already have the truth.

"Freedom is man's capacity to take a hand in his own development. It is our capacity to mold ourselves."
-- Dr. Rollo May

Some of the greatest prophets have told you ..you have nothing to fear but fear itself.

Good points

Loving kindness
mudra

Oliver · 08-06-2009, 11:03 AM

BROOK: We are all here searching for truth and knowing...but the most important thing you need to realize is you already have the truth.
It's embedded within every cell of our body....all you need to do is tap into it..what is preventing you from tapping into it....it this...EGO

Stright in the center, Brook. Congratulation!
Ego is not only preventing us TO KNOW, but also TO LOVE unconditionally, TO GIVE without expecting anything for return, TO COMPASSION, TO ADMIT that somebody is greater than us, TO RESPECT, TO SERVE THE OTHERS, to…and finaly TO BE FREE.

That beast – The Ego! The source of all evil!

rhythm · 08-06-2009, 11:07 AM

When people see things as good

other things become bad ...

SO nice to see you here Brook

BROOK · 08-06-2009, 04:23 PM

Quote:

Welcome back Brook. Your presence is appreciated here.

Coming from you Mudra, after the incident on your thread that is comforting.

Quote:

I see it this way it's not the world that creates us but we who are creating the world.
The one we are in right now is a sinking ship with lots of holes and leaks into it.
The values it holds don't guarantee peace and a decent place to live for the whole of humanity.
While some as you and me and many others on this planet are staying in the front patching the wounds by offering our light and our hearts others in the back yard are aiming at the construction of a fresh new boat. I think this is only fair and sound. This is consciousness at work and evolving from chrysalis to free butterfly.
Life is about changes and freedom is being where one feels he has to be to fullfill his role in the co-creation of the higher plan.
Feel the love and Know that this is unity at work and that we all stand in ONE world.

The world we live in now, is more than a sinking ship. I'm of the opinion the it's in the process of a great evolution. It's already happening, and you can see it clearly, even within our own societies over the last 200 years. Remember when women couldn't vote? That was a religious issue. Did you know that? Many died trying to keep women from voting, and felt it was their "moral duty" under God to keep men in charge. Whose rules do you think they were following?
When we achieved our first heart transplant, many were outraged about the spiritual implications of what was being done, believing that the spiritual soul of one person would be damaged due to receiving the heart of another. They opposed it, and felt the opposition was from God.

Nowadays, we smile in wonderment as we look at how our culture was back then. You have to ask, "What were we thinking?" Believe me, you'll do the same in another 25 years! What's happening today, belongs to today. It doesn't represent our internal divinity. It is still being evolved by means of those who ask to vibrate higher, and who then receive the wisdom. The wisdom is yours, and resides inside.
The ego keeps it from others who will some day wake up as well. And they will need our love the most....the ones we are in fear of need us the most.

This evolution will happen in every part of the world..not just some parts, and not for just some people.. And in the end as was promised to us when we came here, so many times before...it will be a paradise...we will experience love and unity..of the whole.... It is our destiny.

BROOK · 08-06-2009, 04:59 PM

I'll add..the problems we are facing right now are crated by EGO..the ego of the ones that feel the need for complete power.

The truth..there is more than enough food to go around to feed the hungry..and if we took all that money for Wars, and spent it on housing, we could shelter everyone.

You know that is the truth.

Several months ago I started a thread with Zeddo, about "Be the change you want to see"....our idea was to contact every peace organization in the world..and create a "strike"..to stop all war...because in truth..they need us to fight those wars.

THEY are of the very small minority..and they are somewhat afraid of the truth getting out...they are afraid of one thing in particular....LOVE
Because love will end it all. And their EGO'S will not be able to handle it.

It's all created by EGO..this scared fearful entity in us that creates all this chaos ...the day will come when we no longer need that ego to tell us what we already KNOW...it in our DNA...in every cell of our body.
So even if you don't meditate...sit quietly and repeat to yourself every day..."I know"...the more you do it the more will come..and soon you will know..... you won't need your EGO anymore.

Blessings
Brook

runtofly · 08-06-2009, 05:08 PM

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Originally Posted by BROOK

I'll add..the problems we are facing right now are crated by EGO..the ego of the ones that feel the need for complete power.

Couldn't be any simpler.

Thank you for your statements, and welcome back.

-Runtofly

BROOK · 08-06-2009, 05:27 PM

The worst predictions of those who say they "know" have nothing to do with Ultimate Reality.

Do not buy into what others are telling you -- even if those others are people in authority,
people who seem to have all the information and all the understanding and all the answers.

Embrace, instead, the desires of your heart, and make those your experience.

BROOK · 08-06-2009, 06:03 PM

Peace

is a term that most commonly refers to an absence of aggression, violence or hostility, but which also represents a larger concept wherein there are healthy or newly-healed interpersonal or international relationships, safety in matters of social or economic welfare, the acknowledgment of equality and fairness in political relationships and, in world matters, peacetime; a state of being absent of any war or conflict. Reflection on the nature of peace is also bound up with considerations of the causes for its absence or loss. Among these potential causes are: insecurity, social injustice, economic inequality, political and religious radicalism, and acute nationalism.

This is the only thing to strive for...then we will achieve

Freedom

the absence of interference with the sovereignty of an individual by the use of coercion or aggression.

All it's going to take is removal of EGO from the powers that be....can it be done?....you tell me...because you KNOW

Know Freedom and Peace

mudra · 08-06-2009, 06:45 PM

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Originally Posted by BROOK

Coming from you Mudra, after the incident on your thread that is comforting.

The world we live in now, is more than a sinking ship. I'm of the opinion the it's in the process of a great evolution. It's already happening, and you can see it clearly, even within our own societies over the last 200 years. Remember when women couldn't vote? That was a religious issue. Did you know that? Many died trying to keep women from voting, and felt it was their "moral duty" under God to keep men in charge. Whose rules do you think they were following?
When we achieved our first heart transplant, many were outraged about the spiritual implications of what was being done, believing that the spiritual soul of one person would be damaged due to receiving the heart of another. They opposed it, and felt the opposition was from God.

Nowadays, we smile in wonderment as we look at how our culture was back then. You have to ask, "What were we thinking?" Believe me, you'll do the same in another 25 years! What's happening today, belongs to today. It doesn't represent our internal divinity. It is still being evolved by means of those who ask to vibrate higher, and who then receive the wisdom. The wisdom is yours, and resides inside.
The ego keeps it from others who will some day wake up as well. And they will need our love the most....the ones we are in fear of need us the most.

This evolution will happen in every part of the world..not just some parts, and not for just some people.. And in the end as was promised to us when we came here, so many times before...it will be a paradise...we will experience love and unity..of the whole.... It is our destiny.

I agree Brook ,

Whereever spirit is change can and is taking place. And spirit is everywhere.
The only place to be is in one's heart . Follow your heart's call and whereever it takes you'll be in the right place and the right time for you always.

Loving kindness
mudra

BROOK · 08-06-2009, 06:57 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by mudra

I agree Brook ,

Whereever spirit is change can and is taking place. And spirit is everywhere.
The only place to be is in one's heart . Follow your heart's call and whereever it takes you'll be in the right place and the right time for you always.

Loving kindness
mudra

I agree...just don't let the heart be driven by the ego...it may want to scare the living daylights out of you by others who say they know the "Truth"...when in fact their truth is driven by their egos....what a web of deception the ego can weave....Just learn to
KNOW PEACE...and FREEDOM will follow
As I said..

Quote:

The worst predictions of those who say they "know" have nothing to do with Ultimate Reality.

Do not buy into what others are telling you -- even if those others are people in authority,
people who seem to have all the information and all the understanding and all the answers.

Embrace, instead, the desires of your heart, and make those your experience.

Last edited by BROOK; Today at 11:20 AM.

Knowing Peace.....from the Prophets

saying of Buddha

Hostility is never conquered by hostility in this world; hostility is conquered by love. That is the Eternal Law

Saying of Jesus Christ

He who would know everything, but fails to know himself misses the knowledge of everything

BROOK · 08-06-2009, 07:58 PM

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Originally Posted by tone3jaguar

I agree, the actual meaning of ego is who you believe you are in this world. This guy has an ego, that guy has an ego? I think a while back people started confusing the words arrogance and ego and somehow ego got tagged as an appropriate adjective to describe arrogant people.

Am I arrogant? Depends on what side of the desk you are sitting on. If the observer of my style of communication does not agree with the message then the perception is that I am arrogant. However, if the observer agrees with the message then the perception is that I am valiant.

Do I spend any significant time worrying about which way the perceptions are going? No I do not. I learned a long time ago that focusing on how one is being judged by others is a complete waste of time and muddies the waters of intuition.

People should say what ever they feel they need to say. If it ruffles feathers than so be it. No one ever changed anything for the better by playing it safe and walking on egg shells all of the time.

With all due respect Tone...and I mean nothing harmful here..that is the ego talking.

Only the ego would be concerned with the idea of something being Valiant or Arrogant.

Only the ego would be concerned with perceptions.

Everyone should be able to voice their opinion. The concern lies in where it is coming from...is it being driven by the ego..or the true self.
Is it coming from a place of anger or fear? if it is, then my guess is it's coming from the ego.

By no means do I put myself above my own ego, as it has lashed out in anger before...I battle with it every day...the trouble lies in the Truth and Kowing within us...is that what we are conveying...or are we being driven by ego?

Here is an article on
Ego - The False Center

http://deoxy.org/egofalse.htm

It's very well written, and there are many others to check out. We could all use a good ego check..I admit I can

BROOK · 08-06-2009, 08:44 PM

Well..it's been nice to be back for this brief period...I have many things to do..one of them is going under the knife tomorrow..for a useless surgery..my doctors claim I need. However with all the healing energies sent my way by all of you..I really don't need this....and people at work are asking me where I'm getting all of this energy .

I just roll my eyes and say...from the Gods above...they are you...you are all Gods...part of the whole..and you sent me reeling with energy. To this day I'm still going strong.
When they put me out tomorrow....and I go under anaesthesia...I'm going to keep in my head one thing....."I know"
Don't know if it will work..but it's what I plan on doing

Bless you all again
Brook

rhythm · 08-06-2009, 08:50 PM

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Originally Posted by BROOK

Well..it's been nice to be back for this brief period...I have many things to do..one of them is going under the knife tomorrow..for a useless surgery..my doctors claim I need. However with all the healing energies sent my way by all of you..I really don't need this....and people at work are asking me where I'm getting all of this energy .

I just roll my eyes and say...from the Gods above...they are you...you are all Gods...part of the whole..and you sent me reeling with energy. To this day I'm still going strong.
When they put me out tomorrow....and I go under anaesthesia...I'm going to keep in my head one thing....."I know"
Don't know if it will work..but it's what I plan on doing

Bless you all again
Brook

All be well with you dear Brook

please let us have your news as and when you can
may as well have it removed ... it has no life left in it enyway right !!!
healing love to you ... rhythmmm ..

tone3jaguar · 08-06-2009, 09:58 PM

What ever (referring to the view on ego, not your medical sugery)

tone3jaguar · 08-06-2009, 10:08 PM

We can not escape who we chose to be before we incarnated into this reality. We chose our "egos" before we where even born. This new age fluffy idea of giving up your personal identity because that is what has been deemed most acceptable by gurus is not something that I am willing to accept into my paradigm. If that is my big fat ego talking then so be it. It is really no different than someone pointing at another and saying "ego ego ego". The act of observing an individual having an "ego" is an act of the "ego". It is not escapable in this reality. As long as the individual is not being dishonest with them selves then they are on the right track. I will give up my version of who I am in this world the day I die and not a day sooner because it enables me to function and have focus.

14 Chakras · 08-06-2009, 11:41 PM

Brook, I like where you're going with this thread. I think you are getting to the heart of the issue. Keep up the great work! And know in your heart that tomorrow is going to go just fine for you! I do.

14 Chakras · 08-07-2009, 12:03 AM

Tone,

I think I get where you're coming from.

The ego is a tricky subject and a tricky devil you might say. It's difficult to talk about it, especially when pointing out someone else's ego, without it appearing we're coming from our own egos.

That being said, I personally see the strongest value in a community of those seeking higher truth, is to help each other overcome our own stuff. The main way we do that is by acting as mirrors for each other, we mirror back whatever illusions we have in our own energy fields, and then we have to deal with that.

Sometimes we do it by pointing out what appears to be coming from ego, personally I like that approach, but it's not easy to do it without our own egos getting in the way.. that's part of the adventure of overcoming the illusatory self so we can be reborn into our true divine identity that is a unique and beautiful individualization of the infinite consciousness.

I do indeed believe in life and light beyond duality and beyond the human ego and that is my personal path, to go all the way and demonstrate that life once I'm there and help others do the same.

As you said, your ego is who you think you are in this world. I believe our limited self view is the entire problem with this world in the first place. We believe we're something much less than we really are and by our own illusions of separation, we separate ourselves from the divine loving intelligence, and power, wisdom and love that is within us. The ego are the illusions separating us from who we really are, and we are much more than piddly human beings, or even advanced magis or something.

We each have a unique God flame and we're individualization's of God itSelf, here to express itSelf in the world of form. All the plots, plans and conspiracies of dark forces and alien technologies stand no chance against the body of God, which is us when we've surrendered the ego.

Jesus and Gautama demonstrated this path. Eckhart Tolle is teaching this path. And yes, I believe it is the Way to freedom that Jesus spoke of. The truth, is that we are more than the ego, and when we surrender our bowl of porridge (ego), we'll earn our crown, our divine birthright as Sons and daughters of the infinite. The dark forces will melt away when the light is shined upon them and a much better age will be made manifest, through us!

08-05-2009, 09:47 PM	#1
BROOK Avalon Senior Member Join Date: Oct 2008 Posts: 3,117	Knowing and freedom After reading the last couple of days, I decided to rejoin for a time to sort some things that have been bothering me. When I left it was due to the fact that separation was of key importance and starting radiant zones was in the making...and being Advertised. Not a good idea....in my opinion. The Welcome to Avalon home page: Our goals: • To provide important information and resources to enable individuals and communities to function optimally in what may be troubled times ahead. • To support aware individuals in networking and forming groups as they wish. Our philosophy: • As stated by George Green in the Project Camelot interview Messages for the Ground Crew, there exist individuals and groups, all over the world, who have an important responsibility and role to play in the preservation of civilization regardless which scenarios may play out. • These possible scenarios - which include planned financial collapse, war, and population reduction by covert means - can be prevented and changed by the united intention of many concerned individuals. Many of us are working to prepare and awaken others. We know that our efforts to create a new tomorrow will not be in vain. We acknowledge the Ground Crew all over the globe - including (we are confident) ethical and principled individuals within military and intelligence circles worldwide. • We believe it's prudent to make contingency plans. This site is created to help you do that. Setting goals for contingency plans is not a bad thing....however I had a huge problem with taking the energy you possess to a centralized spot to isolate from the world. In the last couple of weeks there have been many here upset by the goals of the PTB....Whistleblowers , informers, people in the knowing....who are these people you are all fighting about? They are nothing different then you or I..they are humans, seeking TRUTH and KNOWING. We are all here searching for truth and knowing...but the most important thing you need to realize is you already have the truth. It's embedded within every cell of our body....all you need to do is tap into it..what is preventing you from tapping into it....it this... EGO The ego driven by fear, self imposed lies, and blind acceptance. Why do you need anyone to tell you what you already KNOW? It's in you..and very soon ..you will have the ability to freely tap into it....that is what TPTB are afraid of right now. They would love to see you all run to radiant zones and separate your self to throw the energy of that knowing off from the grid. I kept asking myself why I was so drawn to Southern California?..I have always know it's been said that it's going to fall into the ocean..so why am I drawn here? I'm here to keep the energy stable..along with many others here, and many who are not even aware they're doing just that. So hopefully it will not be the complete end, and just a major rebuild. And when that happens...as I've seen in my dreams...I will be there ...Am I running to a safe zone? No..I'm staying right here with my community. I've seen bright minds leave here..who I have cherished every word of..I have seen threads calling out BS on paid for whistleblowers, who speak as if they already know... Do they really know? Do you all really know? Do I really know? My ego fights a battle with me every day...and so does yours..it's something you cannot run from. It's always there. As long as you are in this 3D existence...you will have to deal with it...getting it under control by KNOWING is the KEY! Are you going to go off the words of other ego driven ones that tell their truth? Or are you going to search your own truth...it's up to you what you let your ego take control of. You all want freedom...... Ahhhh FREEDOM! Most people do not really want freedom, because freedom involves responsibility, and most people are frightened of responsibility." -- Sigmund Freud In his book Nobody’s Victim, Christopher J. McCullough explains, "In order to live your freedom, you must first accept reality. ‘These are the choices, and given those choices, which do I choose?’ Whether the option you select is pleasant or painful does not alter the fact that, given reality, this is your preference. "To live your freedom, it is helpful to stop and ask yourself, ‘Why am I doing this?’ and then notice whether, given the options, you are choosing what you really want, or whether you want to choose something else.... Sometimes the exercise of freedom involves naming your poison -- all choices may lead to outcomes that are in some way painful. But the real pain is that of feeling powerless -- denying your freedom." "Freedom is man's capacity to take a hand in his own development. It is our capacity to mold ourselves." -- Dr. Rollo May Some of the greatest prophets have told you ..you have nothing to fear but fear itself. another said, Let them alone: they be blind leaders of the blind don't let the blind lead your truth...when you meditate..do only one thing..meditate on one thing alone.....KNOWING...it's within you Bless you all Brook Last edited by BROOK; 08-22-2009 at 04:55 PM.

08-05-2009, 10:46 PM	#2
tone3jaguar Avalon Senior Member Join Date: Sep 2008 Location: www.altimatrix.com Posts: 1,525	Re: Knowing and freedom I agree, the actual meaning of ego is who you believe you are in this world. This guy has an ego, that guy has an ego? I think a while back people started confusing the words arrogance and ego and somehow ego got tagged as an appropriate adjective to describe arrogant people. Am I arrogant? Depends on what side of the desk you are sitting on. If the observer of my style of communication does not agree with the message then the perception is that I am arrogant. However, if the observer agrees with the message then the perception is that I am valiant. Do I spend any significant time worrying about which way the perceptions are going? No I do not. I learned a long time ago that focusing on how one is being judged by others is a complete waste of time and muddies the waters of intuition. People should say what ever they feel they need to say. If it ruffles feathers than so be it. No one ever changed anything for the better by playing it safe and walking on egg shells all of the time.

08-06-2009, 02:42 AM	#4
Unified Serenity Avalon Senior Member Join Date: Apr 2009 Posts: 893	Re: Knowing and freedom It's nice to have you back. We each definitely have our own path. I'm not sure it is running to leave the rat race, as it could be choosing to walk a better more peaceful path and show our children a different way.

08-06-2009, 04:01 AM	#5
giovonni Avalon Senior Member Join Date: Sep 2008 Location: within my heart Posts: 1,209	Re: Knowing and freedom Greeting's my Friend So wonderful too see you back and feel your presence! Your words "My ego fights a battle with me every day...and so does yours..it's something you cannot run from. It's always there. As long as you are in this 3D existence...you will have to deal with it...getting it under control by KNOWING is the KEY! Are you going to go off the words of other ego driven ones that tell their truth? Or are you going to search your own truth...it's up to you what you let your ego take control of. You all want freedom...... Ahhhh FREEDOM!" This is very profound ~ and hopefully will reasonates with all here. I very much agree with this Much love always<>too you BROOK<>Gio

08-06-2009, 04:40 AM	#6
BROOK Avalon Senior Member Join Date: Oct 2008 Posts: 3,117	Re: Knowing and freedom If you can get past the intensity of Jake and his EGO in the part one video...there is very good information there. Here is part two and three...very good enlightening information.

08-06-2009, 09:05 AM	#8
mudra Avalon Spiritual Mother Join Date: Sep 2008 Location: belgium Posts: 4,919	Re: Knowing and freedom Oops sorry double posting Last edited by mudra; 08-06-2009 at 09:11 AM.

08-06-2009, 11:03 AM	#10
Oliver Avalon Senior Member Join Date: Feb 2009 Location: Gaia Posts: 893	Re: Knowing and freedom BROOK: We are all here searching for truth and knowing...but the most important thing you need to realize is you already have the truth. It's embedded within every cell of our body....all you need to do is tap into it..what is preventing you from tapping into it....it this...EGO Stright in the center, Brook. Congratulation! Ego is not only preventing us TO KNOW, but also TO LOVE unconditionally, TO GIVE without expecting anything for return, TO COMPASSION, TO ADMIT that somebody is greater than us, TO RESPECT, TO SERVE THE OTHERS, to…and finaly TO BE FREE. That beast – The Ego! The source of all evil!

08-06-2009, 11:07 AM	#11
rhythm Avalon Senior Member Join Date: Sep 2008 Location: devon england Posts: 1,905	Re: Knowing and freedom *When people see things as good* *other things become bad ...* *SO nice to see you here Brook*

08-06-2009, 04:59 PM	#13
BROOK Avalon Senior Member Join Date: Oct 2008 Posts: 3,117	Re: Knowing and freedom I'll add..the problems we are facing right now are crated by EGO..the ego of the ones that feel the need for complete power. The truth..there is more than enough food to go around to feed the hungry..and if we took all that money for Wars, and spent it on housing, we could shelter everyone. You know that is the truth. Several months ago I started a thread with Zeddo, about "Be the change you want to see"....our idea was to contact every peace organization in the world..and create a "strike"..to stop all war...because in truth..they need us to fight those wars. THEY are of the very small minority..and they are somewhat afraid of the truth getting out...they are afraid of one thing in particular....LOVE Because love will end it all. And their EGO'S will not be able to handle it. It's all created by EGO..this scared fearful entity in us that creates all this chaos ...the day will come when we no longer need that ego to tell us what we already KNOW...it in our DNA...in every cell of our body. So even if you don't meditate...sit quietly and repeat to yourself every day..."I know"...the more you do it the more will come..and soon you will know..... you won't need your EGO anymore. Blessings Brook Last edited by BROOK; 08-09-2009 at 04:27 AM.

08-06-2009, 05:27 PM	#15
BROOK Avalon Senior Member Join Date: Oct 2008 Posts: 3,117	Re: Knowing and freedom The worst predictions of those who say they "know" have nothing to do with Ultimate Reality. Do not buy into what others are telling you -- even if those others are people in authority, people who seem to have all the information and all the understanding and all the answers. Embrace, instead, the desires of your heart, and make those your experience. Last edited by BROOK; 08-09-2009 at 04:28 AM.

08-06-2009, 06:03 PM	#16
BROOK Avalon Senior Member Join Date: Oct 2008 Posts: 3,117	Re: Knowing and freedom Peace is a term that most commonly refers to an absence of aggression, violence or hostility, but which also represents a larger concept wherein there are healthy or newly-healed interpersonal or international relationships, safety in matters of social or economic welfare, the acknowledgment of equality and fairness in political relationships and, in world matters, peacetime; a state of being absent of any war or conflict. Reflection on the nature of peace is also bound up with considerations of the causes for its absence or loss. Among these potential causes are: insecurity, social injustice, economic inequality, political and religious radicalism, and acute nationalism. This is the only thing to strive for...then we will achieve Freedom the absence of interference with the sovereignty of an individual by the use of coercion or aggression. All it's going to take is removal of EGO from the powers that be....can it be done?....you tell me...because you KNOW Know Freedom and Peace Last edited by BROOK; 08-06-2009 at 06:19 PM.

08-06-2009, 08:44 PM	#20
BROOK Avalon Senior Member Join Date: Oct 2008 Posts: 3,117	Re: Knowing and freedom Well..it's been nice to be back for this brief period...I have many things to do..one of them is going under the knife tomorrow..for a useless surgery..my doctors claim I need. However with all the healing energies sent my way by all of you..I really don't need this....and people at work are asking me where I'm getting all of this energy . I just roll my eyes and say...from the Gods above...they are you...you are all Gods...part of the whole..and you sent me reeling with energy. To this day I'm still going strong. When they put me out tomorrow....and I go under anaesthesia...I'm going to keep in my head one thing....."I know" Don't know if it will work..but it's what I plan on doing Bless you all again Brook

08-06-2009, 09:58 PM	#22
tone3jaguar Avalon Senior Member Join Date: Sep 2008 Location: www.altimatrix.com Posts: 1,525	Re: Knowing and freedom What ever (referring to the view on ego, not your medical sugery) Last edited by tone3jaguar; 08-06-2009 at 10:20 PM.

08-06-2009, 10:08 PM	#23
tone3jaguar Avalon Senior Member Join Date: Sep 2008 Location: www.altimatrix.com Posts: 1,525	Re: Knowing and freedom We can not escape who we chose to be before we incarnated into this reality. We chose our "egos" before we where even born. This new age fluffy idea of giving up your personal identity because that is what has been deemed most acceptable by gurus is not something that I am willing to accept into my paradigm. If that is my big fat ego talking then so be it. It is really no different than someone pointing at another and saying "ego ego ego". The act of observing an individual having an "ego" is an act of the "ego". It is not escapable in this reality. As long as the individual is not being dishonest with them selves then they are on the right track. I will give up my version of who I am in this world the day I die and not a day sooner because it enables me to function and have focus.

08-06-2009, 11:41 PM	#24
14 Chakras Avalon Senior Member Join Date: May 2009 Location: Calgary, Canada Posts: 832	Re: Knowing and freedom Brook, I like where you're going with this thread. I think you are getting to the heart of the issue. Keep up the great work! And know in your heart that tomorrow is going to go just fine for you! I do.

08-07-2009, 12:03 AM	#25
14 Chakras Avalon Senior Member Join Date: May 2009 Location: Calgary, Canada Posts: 832	Re: Knowing and freedom Tone, I think I get where you're coming from. The ego is a tricky subject and a tricky devil you might say. It's difficult to talk about it, especially when pointing out someone else's ego, without it appearing we're coming from our own egos. That being said, I personally see the strongest value in a community of those seeking higher truth, is to help each other overcome our own stuff. The main way we do that is by acting as mirrors for each other, we mirror back whatever illusions we have in our own energy fields, and then we have to deal with that. Sometimes we do it by pointing out what appears to be coming from ego, personally I like that approach, but it's not easy to do it without our own egos getting in the way.. that's part of the adventure of overcoming the illusatory self so we can be reborn into our true divine identity that is a unique and beautiful individualization of the infinite consciousness. I do indeed believe in life and light beyond duality and beyond the human ego and that is my personal path, to go all the way and demonstrate that life once I'm there and help others do the same. As you said, your ego is who you think you are in this world. I believe our limited self view is the entire problem with this world in the first place. We believe we're something much less than we really are and by our own illusions of separation, we separate ourselves from the divine loving intelligence, and power, wisdom and love that is within us. The ego are the illusions separating us from who we really are, and we are much more than piddly human beings, or even advanced magis or something. We each have a unique God flame and we're individualization's of God itSelf, here to express itSelf in the world of form. All the plots, plans and conspiracies of dark forces and alien technologies stand no chance against the body of God, which is us when we've surrendered the ego. Jesus and Gautama demonstrated this path. Eckhart Tolle is teaching this path. And yes, I believe it is the Way to freedom that Jesus spoke of. The truth, is that we are more than the ego, and when we surrender our bowl of porridge (ego), we'll earn our crown, our divine birthright as Sons and daughters of the infinite. The dark forces will melt away when the light is shined upon them and a much better age will be made manifest, through us! Last edited by 14 Chakras; 08-07-2009 at 02:04 AM.