2012 Catastrophe and Rebirth

arcora · 09-14-2008, 08:32 PM

I see many threads here discussing how best to deal with predicted catastrophic events.

Building self-sufficient communities, barter rather than money, generating power with no grid, stockpiling food etc etc etc.

My understanding is that the catastrophic events foretold will usher in a completely new world which will include new paradigms and realities far superior to what we have now.

We are not being sent backwards, we are making a giant leap forward. Mankind isn't going to revert to a quasi stone-age lifestyle - unless that's what you want for yourself.

My point is - while it's important to focus on the events that are unfolding, it isn't prudent to remain entirely focused on the destruction. I believe we should also keep a balance and think about the rebirth.

There may come a time when you'll need to make a decision about which way you want to go. Reading about 2012, future timelines and other topics leads me to believe that there are a number of different scenarios coming - and we may be able to choose the one we prefer.

My concern is that if people focus entirely on basic survival, that they'll get exactly that and only that. It woud be a shame because I sense far greater opportunities.

This is where letting go and acceptance come into play. Let go of the fear and accept the change.

pilot · 09-15-2008, 05:34 AM

This is a very good point you bring up, thank you for sharing this. The survivalist 'paradigm' is kind of what we suffer from already, existence is harsh and we must work work work to stay alive. I have always had a feeling that this is BS. Really, it's absurd. I am slowly trying to shed this conditioning, the idea that we must PAY to live. Make a living. Exit school and begin your life as a debt slave.

I believe there is another way, and that we can create it. The "wantlessness" of the indigenous people that the conquerors found in the new world without their superstitions, free energy, plenty of leisure for everyone. The best of our technology and true freedom and justice, no greed. This is what I am hoping for on the other side of whatever is going to happen. I don't want to just survive, I want miracles.

It would be OK with me if I didn't survive as well. It's not like death is the end.

elias · 09-15-2008, 05:44 AM

Yes,

We don't want to survive, we only want to know how to survive and acquire knowledge without any WORRY, because WORRY means losing energy. God will manage everything.

Elias

09-14-2008, 08:32 PM	#1
arcora Banned Join Date: Sep 2008 Posts: 696	2012 Catastrophe and Rebirth I see many threads here discussing how best to deal with predicted catastrophic events. Building self-sufficient communities, barter rather than money, generating power with no grid, stockpiling food etc etc etc. My understanding is that the catastrophic events foretold will usher in a completely new world which will include new paradigms and realities far superior to what we have now. We are not being sent backwards, we are making a giant leap forward. Mankind isn't going to revert to a quasi stone-age lifestyle - unless that's what you want for yourself. My point is - while it's important to focus on the events that are unfolding, it isn't prudent to remain entirely focused on the destruction. I believe we should also keep a balance and think about the rebirth. There may come a time when you'll need to make a decision about which way you want to go. Reading about 2012, future timelines and other topics leads me to believe that there are a number of different scenarios coming - and we may be able to choose the one we prefer. My concern is that if people focus entirely on basic survival, that they'll get exactly that and only that. It woud be a shame because I sense far greater opportunities. This is where letting go and acceptance come into play. Let go of the fear and accept the change.

09-15-2008, 05:34 AM	#2
pilot Avalon Senior Member Join Date: Sep 2008 Location: OK Posts: 153	Re: 2012 Catastrophe and Rebirth This is a very good point you bring up, thank you for sharing this. The survivalist 'paradigm' is kind of what we suffer from already, existence is harsh and we must work work work to stay alive. I have always had a feeling that this is BS. Really, it's absurd. I am slowly trying to shed this conditioning, the idea that we must PAY to live. Make a living. Exit school and begin your life as a debt slave. I believe there is another way, and that we can create it. The "wantlessness" of the indigenous people that the conquerors found in the new world without their superstitions, free energy, plenty of leisure for everyone. The best of our technology and true freedom and justice, no greed. This is what I am hoping for on the other side of whatever is going to happen. I don't want to just survive, I want miracles. It would be OK with me if I didn't survive as well. It's not like death is the end.

09-15-2008, 05:44 AM	#3
elias Avalon Senior Member Join Date: Sep 2008 Posts: 62	Re: 2012 Catastrophe and Rebirth Yes, We don't want to survive, we only want to know how to survive and acquire knowledge without any WORRY, because WORRY means losing energy. God will manage everything. Elias