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Thank you for a full version of BF's post.
We may disagree with what he says but I want congratulate BF for being consistent in sticking to a beautiful idea - that of liberation of humanity from the swamp in which we are today. BF knows that he isn't capable to do anything alone. Can he count on us? Is there anyone who proposes a better solution for our planet and its inhabitants, without the element of greed.
Creedy: Die! Die! Why won't you die?... Why won't you die?
V: Beneath this mask there is more than flesh. Beneath this mask there is an idea, Mr. Creedy, and ideas are bulletproof.
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Just for kicks, let's speculate what would happen if suddenly the money supply was doubled.
I think I totally agree with your point. But then again - what if the 'black' money, especially dollars, known to be in circulation in about the same amount as the 'official' money, as well as the recent bail-outs money, was just scratched at the same time, or even better, if the only money allowed in circulation were the 'gift' money?
I think also might make a difference if the Bush/Clinton/Bolsheivicks Crime family Syndicate wasn't taking 55% of all the money that comes in from taxes etc, right off the top. Our country is running on 45% of what it takes in....that's it.
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Are people really thinking that this isn't just swapping a bunch of apples for a bunch of oranges? Money is just flowing from 1 group to another, and no matter how belevolent these groups make out to be, they are still in control!
There will still be control, just in a different form. There will still be armed forces. If we are going to be taught (controlled, eithe r positive or negative) to interact with one another differently, we arent being free to establish our own connections in our own eays, but being guided.
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Are people really thinking that this isn't just swapping a bunch of apples for a bunch of oranges? Money is just flowing from 1 group to another, and no matter how belevolent these groups make out to be, they are still in control!
There will still be control, just in a different form. There will still be armed forces. If we are going to be taught (controlled, eithe r positive or negative) to interact with one another differently, we arent being free to establish our own connections in our own eays, but being guided.
With respect PVM I don't think the details have even been thought out yet. How could they. This turn around from treachery to freedom is a delicate operation methinks. Lots of stuff to consider and alas not enough time and wherewithall to deal with it. I don't think that the majority of people around the world will have any say in this matter. Our or at least my take on it I hope, is that the elite will transfer power to some delegation which has defacto support from the masses. Or something. Maybe this is where we can influence things in some way. I don't really know, but neither do I think anyone does.
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All I see on all the posts continuously, is a fragment of hope thrown at us, then we debate it down, unsure of anything, some fear, some hope. The bottom line here folks is that we have the power to create, they do not, they manipulate, they come up with all the information, shove it down the wavelengths, mainstream and alternative, throw in a few whistle blowers and a SEAL now and again and we are all at the edge of our seats - wondering, hoping, fighting, fearing and on and on it goes. When will we ever see that the bottom line here is that this is an incredible time to be on this planet, we are the ones that were chosen to be here to assist and yet all we do is give our power away - CONSTANTLY.....whitehats, cabal, channels, banks, archangels, commanders, ET's, religion, federations and blah blah blah - there is no one on this planet that can do this OUTSIDE of yourself - dont you get how easy this is.....stop with the brain, the thinking, the mind and get clear on who you are, why you are here and let the movie playout without emotional connection to it, we are going to do this one way or another and nothing is going to stop us - NOTHING - UNLESS you give your power away......create, do not believe, desire it, see it, feel it, talk it into being....and leave the game for good - seriously, we are loosing time and they are winning, with all this recent bull**** - its called distraction. All they need is for us to spend all our days wondering about the newest clip or release and waste our time, so they can get to the finish line first. Well while they are throwing us cake, I intend to give it up and be at the finishing line before anyone else...whos with me? I admire everyone contributing, but unless its coming from my own higher self, I am just not interested anymore.... If you really want to be part of what is GOING to happen, then BE IT......thanks
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How could there only be 2 timelines? That is not logical. Every moment of our existence is filled with an infinite possibility of "moments" based on the choices we make, and each has the potential to create a new reality........
What if the right choice- is not to choose at all. If no one would take either of their sides, how would the endless right-left struggle continue? Have you ever wondered why when Obama won the election, and the Democrats had control of both the House and Senate, why they didn't pass everything they ever wanted, and crush the Republicans forever? It's because that would have ended the struggle- the facade- and NEITHER side wants that. They want to continue to make us decide which of them is right- and we remain caught in the middle of them.
Still being new to posting but old to reading, this is an interesting topic wherever it shows up: Timelines
I recall George Kavassilas speaking about an "organic" timeline, like the trunk of a tree with many offshoots like branches that are dead ends and when at the cul de sac, one must turn around. That has a sweet feel to it as if there is one timeline that we all seek, kind of like the vortex leading out of the repetition of this matrix?
This whole issue of money is a cul de sac, not because money is not useful but because we have taken our eyes off the "reality for which money stands"...the organic living energy.
Always it seem we mistake our view for everything, just attend to certain aspects and miss the whole. This is not a judgement but creates trivial results.
Here is just one tiny picture... the way that people with money caused a beautiful landscape we call Florida to be treated like "dirt". You can throw a whole lot of money at anything and end up sooo much worse off. I can just imagine how (if it is true) that $125,000 dollars a piece will look in certain hands (LOL)
I am no expert on any of this but it all seems a bit stale somehow like day old bread, not the nourisihment that is the bread of life. Somehow the "reality" that I am interested in has little to do with any of the offers I have yet heard from BF, DW, BW, unless I have just really missed something.
I desire to practice the technology needed to change reality. This knowledge must show up as I am absolutely INTENT I may change Inside Out and that will alter Outside In. No "amount" of resources to my understanding will make a difference until we practice creation from inside out and at that point "amount" becomes superfluous.
I do not know HOW exactly to ACT like the beings who alter timelines, reality and create all new but that seems the only really interesting experience.
There is one step first: take responsibility that We ARE whom we have been cracked up to be. And the suggestion above to stay out of polar stances is useful....Thanks! Delight
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I think part of the problem is that it is all still based around finance and money.
I would much prefer them looking towards a resource based economy.
But that is just me.
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I think until the monetary system is completely eliminated all together. It will be what rules the world and drives it. But, this would require a mindset change of significant proportions.
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Take a look at this thread the other day with the video of Zbigniew Brzezinski on the Charlie Rose show, on his book “Strategic Vision: America and the Crisis of Global Power”.
In the first few seconds/minutes? of the video, he established that power was shifting to the East and his view (which I didn't watch) about "Americas role in the new world order".
I've just watched this interview - I enjoyed it very much as he discusses a Nuclear Iran can be contained like a Nuclear North Korea is. So there's no need to have a full out war with Iran.
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First, I created this thread to respect the request made by DreamsInDigital in her thread titled “B. Fulford. Latest. OOB Negotiations Proceeding At Highest Level. Good News.” I’d also like to say that I think it’s a shame that anyone would consider any respectful criticisms, opposing opinions, or questioning of statements made as inherently negative thoughts, energy, or attitudes a priori. Is that the mark of a “mature adult?”
Before I take issue with some of the things Mr. Fulford said in his quoted statement, I want to say that I have no strong feelings one way or the other about Mr. Fulford. Like many people, I suspect, there are things he has said that I like and agree with and there are things that I don’t. The things that I don’t like or agree with doesn’t mean I’m right and he’s wrong anymore than the reverse. Regardless, when statements made are suspect or don’t ring true to me, no matter who is stating them, I believe it is important to question those statements and I would hope that everyone would do the same. This is not negativity. It is an honest attempt to get at the truth—although, I’ll admit I often mix my questions and comments with sarcastic humor; hey, a guy’s got to have some fun.
My desire is, and has always been, to live in a world where there is no war, no fighting and killing, no hatred, no oppression, no starvation or disease, no secrecy, lies and deceit, no greed, no classes that pit one group against another, no pollution, in short, a world based on Love, Respect, and Responsibility.
On to my observations...
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The reason that many of the top Federal Reserve Board crime syndicate crooks have not been arrested yet is that the old system needs to be kept going with string and wire and duct-tape until final preparations for a radically new system are completed. For example, an Asian proposal now being negotiated calls for 10 million yen or about US$125,000 to be budgeted for each and every individual human being on earth.
So these Federal Reserve crooks who were smart enough to dupe and financially enslave billions of people for decades has all of a sudden turned stupid and hasn’t a clue that there is a plan afoot to replace their system with a “radically new system.” Maybe they are unaware of Ben Fulford’s/White Dragon’s reports. And why can’t they be arrested and temporarily replaced with non-crooks to keep the current system going? Maybe there are no banking types who aren’t crooked. Hey, but that $125,000 carrot sounds pretty sweet doesn’t it? (Do Sheeple eat carrots?) Does this really make sense to anyone?
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The Pentagon is also making similar radical proposals for a complete change of how humans interact with each other and with nature.
Wow! The Pentagon, the purveyors of war, death and destruction now cares about people and how they interact with each other and nature? Really?
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The big conclusion being reached at the highest level is that the old financial system in the West was an illusion used by a secret cabal to keep us enslaved
Who would have thunk it? These guys at the top are geniuses—and it only took them 100+ years to figure this all out. Let’s make sure they’re in charge.
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The proposal being forwarded by the White Dragon Society to Asian clan elders is for the creation of a new, meritocratically staffed organization to be set up near Tenri City, South of Osaka. The name now being proposed for this organization is “Long-term Investments For Everyone,” or LIFE, for short.
Oh this is great news! We’re going to replace a corrupt system run by highly educated and connected elite psychopaths with another system run by highly educated and connected elites who will appoint those in control based on their merits (i.e., intelligence, credentials and education). Gee, I’m not sure. This does sound an awful lot like our current system—just change ‘Dem’ to ‘Merit’ocracy and, voila, a new and improved system. Ok, you sold me. I’m in! How ‘bout you guys? Don’t forget that lovely carrot they’re dangling in front of us. The new system will be called ‘LIFE.’ Of course, that could be short for ‘Long-term Incarceration For Everyone.’ Oops, now that was negative, my bad. ;)
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Kim has agreed to accept the union of the Northern dynasty with the Southern one in the region in exchange for a ceremonial post. Perhaps he can become the symbol of unity and have his own palace and staff.
I think it’s great if North and South Korea unite, but I question the wisdom in giving even a ceremonial post and palace to the successor to the head of a totalitarian Stalinist dictatorship. Maybe we should give all banksters who robbed us of billions a nice island with their own personnel jets and luxury cruisers just to show them there are no hard feelings.
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The initial funding for LIFE, to be backed by Gold returned to Asia from the West as well as by other historical assets, can be set at 7000 trillion yen or, as mentioned above, about $125,000 per human.
Excuse me, we (the west) must give Asia all our gold as well as historical assets (whatever they are) to fund this $125,000 give-away program? Am I the only one here who is thinking: “What? Are you f#@$ing crazy?” Why is it up to the west to finance the rest of the world?
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The money will be delivered in the form of development services such as canals, sewer systems, desalination plants, nature preserves, fish farms etc.
Ah, let me get this straight. You just told us we’re each getting $125,000. Now you’re saying it’s funny money that will be delivered in the form of infrastructure development. Who gets to decide what each of us “needs” in the form of “development services?” What if we don’t need or want the infrastructure development LIFE is offering? This sounds an awful lot like gigantic government programs. We can’t afford them in this country now. How are we going to afford even bigger programs that span the world?
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People working for LIFE will receive generous salaries and be subject to draconian penalties for corruption.
Again, we can’t pay our current government workers modest salaries so where is all this new found wealth coming from to pay a world government “generous” salaries? You can’t just print it—although that’s what the FEDs are doing now. Eventually, hyper-inflation has to occur and when that happens a financial collapse is inevitable—just like the one many countries are already experiencing and the US will be experiencing soon. Oh, that’s right, we’ll have this new financial system in place by then. Problem solved. NOT!
And draconian penalties for corruption! We have scarcely prosecuted any of the elite criminals so far for all the wrong doing they’ve done so exactly how is this new system going to solve that problem? Maybe all the corrupt bad guys will just turn themselves in. Or, do you mean, LIFE workers who aren’t “team players” will be severely punished? You know, like whistleblowers who refuse to look the other way when they see things that aren’t right.
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Studies by the pentagon, anthropological research and corporate governance research all conclude that the most effective decision making bodies number between 6-9 people. This is the size of the traditional human family during hunter gatherer times. The most natural division for humanity along cultural and historical lines suggests a new council of elders be put at the heart of the United Nations Security Council.
The White Dragon suggestion is for a representative to be selected by each of the following groups: Africa, China, East Asia (excluding China), India, North and South America, Europe including Russia, the Islamic world and first nations.
This 8 person grouping would only function as an emergency consultative council to deal with issues affecting all humans. It would operate according to majority rule. Each region would have a veto but that veto would be restricted to that region only.
Ah, the fewer people making decisions for us, the fewer you have to control, err, um, I mean, the easier it is to reach consensus. It seems we just can’t get away from that control thing. And just think if the nations who currently have the wealth vote for something that is in their best interest but is not in the best interest of the poorer nations, no problem, majority rules. Cool, well, at least it’s cool for the wealthier nations. I know, I know, there won’t be any wealthier nations. We’ll all be equal. Well, except for one small problem, it’s going to take decades for the equalization to occur, if ever.
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The Pentagon, for its part, has reached an agreement to merge with the Chinese and Russian Military to form a global peace keeping force, according to a high ranking agency source.
I know I feel more secure already. So the world’s biggest and strongest military-industrial-complex is about to get even bigger and stronger and we should have no concerns over that at all. Just change the name to “global peace keeping force” and it’s magically transformed into what the name implies. No more coercing other nations through the threat of war to take or do what you want. No more terrorists around every corner that “force” the controllers to eliminate human rights and freedoms in order to “protect” the innocent. I don’t know about the rest of you, but I have major concerns over an all powerful, omnipresent police force.
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There has also been an agreement to break up many of the large corporations controlled by the Khazarian Satanic Cabal. Microsoft was specifically mentioned as a company that was about to go Kaput. The major corporate media corporations will also be broken up. Many other top 100 corporations will be broken up into as many as 20 smaller units, according to this source.
The cabalists in charge of the G5 countries are also going to be excluded from the new financial system. If necessary the Pentagon will round up both the Illuminati and the Nazis, in order to make sure they cause no more trouble.
I think it’s great if they can downsize these monster corporations, but what I don’t get is if it’s good to shrink the size of corporations (ostensibly because they wield too much power and control) then why is it not also good to downsize governments and the military-industrial-complex? I also wonder why the Illuminati and Nazis (and any other corrupt organizations) would only be “rounded up” if necessary. It seems to me that these folks are not going to take their removal from power and authority lying down.
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Needless to say, revamping how we run the planet is not an easy job. There is a lot of nitty gritty to be taken care of before anything public is announced. We also need to be on extreme alert for any last minute Satanic terror attacks aimed at trying to prevent the freeing of the sheeple.
Do these statements strike anyone else as a bit odd?
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There will be world peace, an end to poverty and an end to environmental destruction. Humanity will be set free.
Now here’s something I think we can all agree on. I know I’d love to see this happen.
If I wasn’t so tired I’d add some comments on Mr. Channon’s twelve “Opportunities on the even horizon,” but I’ve got to get to sleep. So I turn the floor over to any PA members who wish to chime in.
Again, I apologize if any of my comments or questions are taken as negative or an attack on Mr. Fulford. That is not my intent. My sole purpose is to stimulate some critical thinking and discussion among the readers and posters. I believe we all want to see a world united in Love, Peace and Prosperity, but we just have different perspectives on how we can achieve that goal.
Link to original thread:
https://projectavalon.net/forum4/show...vel.-Good-News
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HUMANITY WILL SOON BE SET FREE
A very passionate Fulford at his best...
https://youtube.com/watch?v=n4QPd20oCrI
viking
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Does he talk any of this in English? Because, unfortunately while I can speak and understand Tau Cetian, and like three or four other languages. I haven't yet learned to wrap my brain around the Asianic ones.
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The entire video is in japanese except for one sentence-humanity will soon be set free. Is there an english translation? I think fulford was on american freedom radio with sean david morton last nite(tuesday). I will listen to the archive when it gets posted.
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Ceetee, I think you misinterpreted what I said...but then a lot of people do. I'm used to it.
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I’d also like to say that I think it’s a shame that anyone would consider any respectful criticisms, opposing opinions, or questioning of statements made as inherently negative thoughts, energy, or attitudes a priori.
That's not what I said or meant, seriously my point was for us to collectively avoid beating a dead horse by attacking his credibility, it's seriously been done to death and has little if any value at this point , and to avoid derailing the thread and creating a bigger mess than was necessary. And, to encourage critical thinking, and a more productive direction that would be more positive towards our collective goals. Now how is that not mature? How is "encouraging growth on multiple levels" not mature and a distinct showing of being a mature adult? And why shouldn't I expect or ask for people to be civil towards eachother? I didn't in anyway intimate that opposing opinions weren't allowed, but expected to be done in a non-negative manor. Which is possible. We're all supposed to be mature adults here, and above average intelligence. But, maybe I'm just expecting way to much of this forum. I just wanted to try something different than degrading an thread into a bunch of squabbling and childish non-productive/progressive behavior.
Next time, ask for clarification if you don't understand something. You might learn something new and expand/grow as a soul/person. And, you certainly could have been Mature enough to do this thread with out childishly attacking me.
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Oooops sorry Guys ...once you have pressed the play button ... then press the cc button which gives you the sub titles...it on the bottom to the right ... :-)
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Thanks guys. And, could you post the SDM link when it's posted on this thread?
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Personally, I have never believed in anything that comes from BF´s mouth. I just don´t feel he´s in a healthy state of mind. In my opinion, he´s a very confused man.
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Japanese is such a beautiful language, watching alot of animes I'm starting to understand it more and more ! The subtitles are accurate, I can tell you that.
I'm liking Benjamin more and more, this guy speaks from his heart !
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Ceetee, I think you misinterpreted what I said...but then a lot of people do. I'm used to it.
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I’d also like to say that I think it’s a shame that anyone would consider any respectful criticisms, opposing opinions, or questioning of statements made as inherently negative thoughts, energy, or attitudes a priori.
That's not what I said or meant, seriously my point was for us to collectively avoid beating a dead horse by attacking his credibility, it's seriously been done to death and has little if any value at this point , and to avoid derailing the thread and creating a bigger mess than was necessary. And, to encourage critical thinking, and a more productive direction that would be more positive towards our collective goals. Now how is that not mature? How is "encouraging growth on multiple levels" not mature and a distinct showing of being a mature adult? And why shouldn't I expect or ask for people to be civil towards eachother? I didn't in anyway intimate that opposing opinions weren't allowed, but expected to be done in a non-negative manor. Which is possible. We're all supposed to be mature adults here, and above average intelligence. But, maybe I'm just expecting way to much of this forum. I just wanted to try something different than degrading an thread into a bunch of squabbling and childish non-productive/progressive behavior.
Next time, ask for clarification if you don't understand something. You might learn something new and expand/grow as a soul/person. And, you certainly could have been Mature enough to do this thread with out childishly attacking me.
DreamsInDigital, you are right, I misinterpreted what you "meant" and I apologize for that. As for attacking you, if you took my comment that way then I apologize for that as well. It was not meant to be a personal attack on you, but a criticism of your statement:
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Another thing I am going to politely ask of the contributing posters is to please take your cynicism and negative thoughts/energy/attitudes else where. It's not helping anything by contributing negative energy to something or someone that is trying to do good and make a positive difference in the lives of everyone here on this planet. We all need to work collectively on thinking and doing more positive things and living in a more positive yet balanced mind set. This is really a good place to start for those that haven't already, because the stuff contained in this blog post really will do a lot for the betterment of humanity globally when it is put into action. And, it will be through our support and positive energy/thoughts/etc that things like this will be developed and come to fruition.
You honestly don't see a prejudgement on your part of anyone who doesn't see Benjamin Fulford's statements in the same light as you as someone who is cynical and only contributing "negative thoughts/energy/attitudes?" If that is the case then how can any of us have an intelligent and meaningful dialog when at least one of the participants in the dialog has already made up their mind that anything said contrary to the stated opinion is negative and not beneficial to expanding anyone's understanding?
And do you seriously consider your last statement--which is quite obviously a condescending attack on me--as reflecting the behavior of a "mature adult?" Who is the one being childish here?
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