Re: Alex Jones on The Tucker Carlson Show December 2023
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I can go much, much deeper in to this topic (maybe I will) ... ESPECIALLY the flaws of Bill (William) Cooper (who I personally met face to face in January 1993) and the flaws of Alex Jones and what alternative reasons could be why certain things "looks" like 'controlled opposition' where others just LOVE to jump to conclusions.
Am/was used to being a target of 100% false accusations towards me and people called me 'controlled opposition' just because I am "still alive" (was one of their "logic" aka "they let me live") and me not going along by any conspiracy dogma within the "truther movement" (being self-critical / very cautious) inserting questions they do not like to hear from me and THAT suppose to be "evidence" that I am 'controlled opposition'.
Some fanatic AJ fans are equally wrong as fanatic Cooper fans ... I appreciated BOTH exposing The New World Order Agenda after I already did similar work (Radio/TV/Magazine/Lectures/Organizing big conferences) before they did on many topics, but that is a side issue, I was "forced" to choose a side, and if I do not: I suppose to be "helping controlled opposition".
I have read the book: "Behold A Pale Horse" TWICE in 1991 & 1992 (32 years ago!) and "The Cooper Report" discussing: UFOs & The New World Order Agenda even helped the translated to Dutch 🇳🇱 version done by Lucie Dam from Groningen to copy that for 1000s of people all over The Netherlands 🇳🇱 & Belgium 🇧🇪 between 1992 and 1998 when I gave 80+ lectures.
So am not against Cooper, and I am not against AJ, and still I can be critical to both of them and most "truthers" do not like me doing that ... I get attacked by both sides, on top of that I suppose to chose "which side" I am on ... If I do not go along on THEIR bandwagon, I am marked as: "controlled opposition" :facepalm:
If anyone who does produce very important (whistleblower type) work (exposing stuff) that goes all over the planet, it is OBVIOUS to me that people can be threatened in so many ways we never hear about, thus somebody you trust could be (partly) compromised indeed ... How exactly and done by who and in what circumstances is far more complex with many layers that if you would be in his shoes you might be different from just having an "opinion on the sideline" being an armchair critic. (<< I speak in general terms, here, no one specific).
As long, you do not know the full scope of it and the complete story we can only guess what that could entail, how it is done. Easy talk if you/me/anyone else are not doing it and claiming you are a "saint" or something like that, "being better".
- What I guess (assume) that most "mafia type" organizations tend to do is they may offer "protection" (for your whole family) in exchange for you to not touch certain super sensitive subject(s) ... if that happens, does that make you "evil"? ... From 'armchair critic' perspective: 100% yes!
I think it is a more gray area where ANYONE who really wants to help the world will eventually face dangers that jeopardize everything you have worked for decades that were 100% genuine (not "perfect" nor without flaws) but you did what you could UNTIL you come to a point you have "too much" influence over millions of people waking up!
Anyone who LIVED the sacrifices will be the same at the core and hopes to succeed in the long term no matter what ... that does not make you "evil" if anyone eventually get (partly) comprised in your last part of being alive on this totally fcked up planet.
- You might already have warned about this possibility/dilemma beforehand by saying:
Do it yourself, do NOT depend on just "one guy" ... Take full responsibility of your own quality of thinking, judging & how to act accordingly ... Do not rely on "that guy" or "this whistleblower" alone ... You can be inspired by them and checking the sources that are given and MOVE ON to be your own powerhouse in your unique way .... and STILL appreciate the work/effort important key-people have done before you started!
Am fully aware of all the critical notes (accusations) coming from Cooper towards AJ and vice versa. I heard it all, many times over the last decades. So again, I may have to go much deeper in to it!
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cheers,
John Kuhles aka 'ExomatrixTV' 🦜🦋🌳
December 10th, 2023
Re: Alex Jones on The Tucker Carlson Show December 2023
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Bill Ryan
Since then, a scan of all the videos, articles and features on
Infowars.com shows that [B][I]there's been zero condemnation of the Israeli genocide.
I take I slightly different view on Alex Jones. I may be completely wrong, but I don't see him as controlled opposition per se. If he was Mossad for instance, I'd expect him to be far more proactive in backing Israel and their agendas. From what I've seen of Infowars (again I may be totally wrong, I don't follow him that avidly -- and someone will correct me if I am wrong), Israel (from whatever angle) seems to be strategically absent from his content.
It may be that he's Mossad "compromised" though. Meaning, they have something on him, something not nice that he would not want to come out. This is how intelligence agencies roll. They use blackmail techniques to keep influential persons in check.
A possible scenario here is that Israel, or whoever is holding him to ransom, has told him: "say whatever you want, do whatever you want, we don't care -- just leave Israel out of it completely, and your secret will be safe with us." But they're not paying him anything, or supporting him.
If Alex Jones was controlled opposition I seriously doubt he'd be allowed to go where he does. I watched that interview with Tucker Carlson and he lit the place up with bombs of truth, and pulled no punches doing so. He went places no one would dare touch in the mainstream. That interview was a valuable service to all normies who may have been watching.
Merely airing my suspicions here, but I don't think he's "controlled" in the same way many talking heads are controlled. But I suspect he has been cowed into silence on Israel, by Israel (for something or other in his past). With pretty much everything else he has to say (the globalist conspiracy to take down the West), in my strong personal opinion, you can take it to the bank.
Re: Alex Jones on The Tucker Carlson Show December 2023
This is a copy and paste of David Icke's post on X today.
"Of course Alex Jones is back on Twitter/X. As I have been writing here, the 'poll' and waiting for God Elon's pronouncement, has all been a GAME to hijack your perception and that of the Mainstream Alternative Media (MAM). You are being had, people, but most will never get that. They only see what is in front of their eyes, not what is weaved through what they think they see.
The decision was made a long time ago and the Carlson interview with Jones was just the calculated prelude to it. The interview was the set up for what was long planned. Musk could have simply done this long ago, but the ritual had to be played out to both eulogise Musk, the new MAM God, and to put Alex Jones centre stage as a symbol of the Mainstream Alternative Media alongside Musk, Carlson, Rogan, Tate, Peterson, Brand, Vlaardingerbroek, and all the rest.
They may each have useful things to say about some 'dots' but they stand as a collective blockade to the deep levels of the rabbit hole within which their 'dots' are mere symptoms, not the cause.
These are now the MAMMIES of the New Mainstream Alternative Media, with Musk at its summit decreeing what is and treated as a God while fronting up companies, SpaceX, Neuralink, Tesla, etc, that are essential to the Cult agenda that the MAMMIES claim to oppose.
Where is the question of how someone can be officially the richest man in the world while opposing the Cult without whose support his business empire would collapse in a day?
'Elon!, Elon!, Elon!, oh, thank you, sir!'
Where is the question about why governments that supposed to hate Musk's 'free speech' would go on handing over the taxpayer subsidies on which his empire depends?
'Elon!, Elon!, Elon!, oh, thank you, sir!'
Where is the question of why the Cult, through its Deep State, which controlled Twitter and what could be posted, would suddenly sell it to 'free speech absolutist' Musk who, as a result, has become the God of the very alternative media the Cult needs to direct and control so it goes here and no further?
'Elon!, Elon!, Elon!, oh, thank you, sir!'
Where is the question about the occult significance of Musk's obsession with the letter 'X' and his plan for X to become the global App for everything?
'Elon!, Elon!, Elon!, oh, thank you, sir!'
The REAL alternative media that has no 'here and no further' is thus marginalised by comparison, as planned, but we are still here and still pursuing the depths of truth where the MAMMIES refuse to go.
Cue abuse from the MAMMY believers, but they'll see. Or maybe, blinded by the light of the Elon God, they won't."
Re: Alex Jones on The Tucker Carlson Show December 2023
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In my view, it is all said on the bases (assumption) that Elon Musk "must" be evil and "must" be 100% compromised.
I personally think it is much more a gray area where Elon made deals to get "Ultra Rich" to fund his Mars Project and thus may have made some sacrifices (on certain levels) "for his greater good" mega project.
Now imagine if nobody did anything to challenge twitter (and the likes) with a reach of billions of people per year ... in the way that almost nobody could, except Elon ... OFF COURSE, we have to stay vigilant & highly critical towards any powerhouse! ... and not blindly trust everything Elon claims or does <<< to assume we are not doing that like David Icke (who I personally met face to face in 1994, 1996 & 2011) insinuates is highly insulting to our intelligence ... David spewing his frustration, that is only partly correct.
But there are many ways to demonize Elon, meanwhile if anyone else was in his shoes might realize how complex the situation really is ... Armchair critics everywhere <<< and sometimes they are "right on target" what they claim, but still I feel a sense of sideline-talkers "thinking they are so much better" <<< but are they really?
- Whatever happens, I still feel that the resistance worldwide has gotten an enormous boost, much more encouragements, less demoralized, much more opportunities coming out of this "freedom fighters network" affecting millions because of it ... Especially more "insiders" who falsely assumed they are "good people" getting faster inspired to question their role in helping the Tyrannical Dystopian WEF Agenda2030/NetZero2050 ... as they are the ones who really can throw sand in the NWO Machine.
When evil "allows" certain freedoms, you might demonize those who took that freedom and being happy about it ... you're supposed to be angry 24/7 and demand 100% perfect society (which I love to talk about how that looks like).
For me the KEY is the: "allow yourself to surprise yourself" mentality, outsmarting defeatism, go beyond the imposed duality thinking, especially within the "truther movement" aka "conspiracy research people" network or "suppressed news exposer's" network.
cheers,
John 🦜🦋🌳
Re: Alex Jones on The Tucker Carlson Show December 2023
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mountain_jim
I voted yes for his free speech, but also am aware of the evidence of his being controlled opposition in some areas, particularly Mossad-related for one.
Thanks for that comment. :thumbsup: Yes, I entirely agree.
On 7 October, just hours after the Hamas attack happened, this was Alex Jones' Emergency Broadcast:
https://banned.video/watch?id=6521bee014094f1a3d94d0d3
He immediately stated that Iran was behind the attack.
(And curiously, he also got Hamas and Hezbollah all mixed up with each other. Do listen.
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Since then, a scan of all the videos, articles and features on
Infowars.com shows that
there's been zero condemnation of the Israeli genocide.
All this is very useful for us, because it helps us understand Alex's position and filter his broadcasts intelligently. (But just as a personal note here, I'll no longer be following his work... I'm not convinced he can be fully trusted any more.)
Thanks... I took a look at the video you linked to released on Oct 7th - and to be honest I didn't see anything to worry about - I have no idea if Iran (or Hezbollah) was behind the Oct 7th attack - or if Hamas could possibly get the whole thing together without help although that seems highly unlikely because of how constricted, surveilled and isolated they are - I might even consider ISIS /IS being involved...with or without the cooperation of Israel - and there remains the question whether Israel/NWO actually set the whole thing up (a step further than just 'letting it happen' ) so Gaza could be erased -
If anyone wants to cut to the chase regarding Alex's remarks .. 27:00 is a good place to start - and the 10 minutes following that...
I could have transcribed a lot more but it's time consuming so I just lifted this bit out - which I will say from the onset gives the impression that Alex is Anti War... which I believe he genuinely is...
(34:05) .......
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Trump's blaming Iran, Israel's blaming Iran - Hamas is the main group that runs the govt in the Gaza Strip -there's millions of people there in the Gaza Strip...it's a hell hole ... they routinely get bombed by the Israelis and they bomb the Israelis back - it's a 75 year war it's terrible.. it needs to be fixed but this is definitely not going to fix it -taking hostages and targeting civilians is not good - but let's just be honest - I'm not endorsing what they did and I'm not endorsing the Israelis dropping 1,000, 2,000 lb bombs on apartment buildings and killing women and children en masse....
So if you want to call Hamas and Hezbollah terrorists - and I think targeting civilians is terrible...well then what is Israel doing ? what was Obama doing when he bombed a muslim wedding and killed 100s of people and saying well we killed the one guy we wanted so it's collateral damage .. so before we criticize Hamas and Hezbollah we have to criticize our own government and the Israeli government..
regarding the condemnation (or lack of it) of the Gaza genocide by the Israeli Govt (in cahoots with the Neo Fascist Globalists IMO)... I don't know if Alex has come right out and made a clear condemnation - I have no hesitation to make that condemnation myself - but I'm not in the same position that Alex is.... attacked from all angles and under severe pressure for years... trying to run Infowars and stay on air - also responsible for paying wages to people who work for him... has he held back from outright public condemnation for any reason?.... I don't know.... but his general comments about his opposition to war and killing civilians make me think he would personally condemn it -
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general comment...
these are incredibly divisive times and we must keep our cool as much as possible and not turn on each other...
David Icke's comments in the post 43 above being a case in point...
Re: Alex Jones on The Tucker Carlson Show December 2023
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cheers,
John 🦜🦋🌳
Re: Alex Jones on The Tucker Carlson Show December 2023
^ summing up - copying here
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