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    Lightbulb Re: Alex Jones on The Tucker Carlson Show December 2023

    Quote Posted by mountain_jim (here)
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    I can go much, much deeper in to this topic (maybe I will) ... ESPECIALLY the flaws of Bill (William) Cooper (who I personally met face to face in January 1993) and the flaws of Alex Jones and what alternative reasons could be why certain things "looks" like 'controlled opposition' where others just LOVE to jump to conclusions.

    Am/was used to being a target of 100% false accusations towards me and people called me 'controlled opposition' just because I am "still alive" (was one of their "logic" aka "they let me live") and me not going along by any conspiracy dogma within the "truther movement" (being self-critical / very cautious) inserting questions they do not like to hear from me and THAT suppose to be "evidence" that I am 'controlled opposition'.

    Some fanatic AJ fans are equally wrong as fanatic Cooper fans ... I appreciated BOTH exposing The New World Order Agenda after I already did similar work (Radio/TV/Magazine/Lectures/Organizing big conferences) before they did on many topics, but that is a side issue, I was "forced" to choose a side, and if I do not: I suppose to be "helping controlled opposition".

    I have read the book: "Behold A Pale Horse" TWICE in 1991 & 1992 (32 years ago!) and "The Cooper Report" discussing: UFOs & The New World Order Agenda even helped the translated to Dutch 🇳🇱 version done by Lucie Dam from Groningen to copy that for 1000s of people all over The Netherlands 🇳🇱 & Belgium 🇧🇪 between 1992 and 1998 when I gave 80+ lectures.

    So am not against Cooper, and I am not against AJ, and still I can be critical to both of them and most "truthers" do not like me doing that ... I get attacked by both sides, on top of that I suppose to chose "which side" I am on ... If I do not go along on THEIR bandwagon, I am marked as: "controlled opposition"

    If anyone who does produce very important (whistleblower type) work (exposing stuff) that goes all over the planet, it is OBVIOUS to me that people can be threatened in so many ways we never hear about, thus somebody you trust could be (partly) compromised indeed ... How exactly and done by who and in what circumstances is far more complex with many layers that if you would be in his shoes you might be different from just having an "opinion on the sideline" being an armchair critic. (<< I speak in general terms, here, no one specific).

    As long, you do not know the full scope of it and the complete story we can only guess what that could entail, how it is done. Easy talk if you/me/anyone else are not doing it and claiming you are a "saint" or something like that, "being better".
    • What I guess (assume) that most "mafia type" organizations tend to do is they may offer "protection" (for your whole family) in exchange for you to not touch certain super sensitive subject(s) ... if that happens, does that make you "evil"? ... From 'armchair critic' perspective: 100% yes!
    I think it is a more gray area where ANYONE who really wants to help the world will eventually face dangers that jeopardize everything you have worked for decades that were 100% genuine (not "perfect" nor without flaws) but you did what you could UNTIL you come to a point you have "too much" influence over millions of people waking up!

    Anyone who LIVED the sacrifices will be the same at the core and hopes to succeed in the long term no matter what ... that does not make you "evil" if anyone eventually get (partly) comprised in your last part of being alive on this totally fcked up planet.
    • You might already have warned about this possibility/dilemma beforehand by saying:
    Do it yourself, do NOT depend on just "one guy" ... Take full responsibility of your own quality of thinking, judging & how to act accordingly ... Do not rely on "that guy" or "this whistleblower" alone ... You can be inspired by them and checking the sources that are given and MOVE ON to be your own powerhouse in your unique way .... and STILL appreciate the work/effort important key-people have done before you started!

    Am fully aware of all the critical notes (accusations) coming from Cooper towards AJ and vice versa. I heard it all, many times over the last decades. So again, I may have to go much deeper in to it!



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    Default Re: Alex Jones on The Tucker Carlson Show December 2023

    Quote Posted by Bill Ryan (here)
    Since then, a scan of all the videos, articles and features on Infowars.com shows that [B][I]there's been zero condemnation of the Israeli genocide.
    I take I slightly different view on Alex Jones. I may be completely wrong, but I don't see him as controlled opposition per se. If he was Mossad for instance, I'd expect him to be far more proactive in backing Israel and their agendas. From what I've seen of Infowars (again I may be totally wrong, I don't follow him that avidly -- and someone will correct me if I am wrong), Israel (from whatever angle) seems to be strategically absent from his content.

    It may be that he's Mossad "compromised" though. Meaning, they have something on him, something not nice that he would not want to come out. This is how intelligence agencies roll. They use blackmail techniques to keep influential persons in check.

    A possible scenario here is that Israel, or whoever is holding him to ransom, has told him: "say whatever you want, do whatever you want, we don't care -- just leave Israel out of it completely, and your secret will be safe with us." But they're not paying him anything, or supporting him.

    If Alex Jones was controlled opposition I seriously doubt he'd be allowed to go where he does. I watched that interview with Tucker Carlson and he lit the place up with bombs of truth, and pulled no punches doing so. He went places no one would dare touch in the mainstream. That interview was a valuable service to all normies who may have been watching.

    Merely airing my suspicions here, but I don't think he's "controlled" in the same way many talking heads are controlled. But I suspect he has been cowed into silence on Israel, by Israel (for something or other in his past). With pretty much everything else he has to say (the globalist conspiracy to take down the West), in my strong personal opinion, you can take it to the bank.
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    Default Re: Alex Jones on The Tucker Carlson Show December 2023

    This is a copy and paste of David Icke's post on X today.

    "Of course Alex Jones is back on Twitter/X. As I have been writing here, the 'poll' and waiting for God Elon's pronouncement, has all been a GAME to hijack your perception and that of the Mainstream Alternative Media (MAM). You are being had, people, but most will never get that. They only see what is in front of their eyes, not what is weaved through what they think they see.
    The decision was made a long time ago and the Carlson interview with Jones was just the calculated prelude to it. The interview was the set up for what was long planned. Musk could have simply done this long ago, but the ritual had to be played out to both eulogise Musk, the new MAM God, and to put Alex Jones centre stage as a symbol of the Mainstream Alternative Media alongside Musk, Carlson, Rogan, Tate, Peterson, Brand, Vlaardingerbroek, and all the rest.
    They may each have useful things to say about some 'dots' but they stand as a collective blockade to the deep levels of the rabbit hole within which their 'dots' are mere symptoms, not the cause.
    These are now the MAMMIES of the New Mainstream Alternative Media, with Musk at its summit decreeing what is and treated as a God while fronting up companies, SpaceX, Neuralink, Tesla, etc, that are essential to the Cult agenda that the MAMMIES claim to oppose.
    Where is the question of how someone can be officially the richest man in the world while opposing the Cult without whose support his business empire would collapse in a day?
    'Elon!, Elon!, Elon!, oh, thank you, sir!'
    Where is the question about why governments that supposed to hate Musk's 'free speech' would go on handing over the taxpayer subsidies on which his empire depends?
    'Elon!, Elon!, Elon!, oh, thank you, sir!'
    Where is the question of why the Cult, through its Deep State, which controlled Twitter and what could be posted, would suddenly sell it to 'free speech absolutist' Musk who, as a result, has become the God of the very alternative media the Cult needs to direct and control so it goes here and no further?
    'Elon!, Elon!, Elon!, oh, thank you, sir!'
    Where is the question about the occult significance of Musk's obsession with the letter 'X' and his plan for X to become the global App for everything?
    'Elon!, Elon!, Elon!, oh, thank you, sir!'
    The REAL alternative media that has no 'here and no further' is thus marginalised by comparison, as planned, but we are still here and still pursuing the depths of truth where the MAMMIES refuse to go.
    Cue abuse from the MAMMY believers, but they'll see. Or maybe, blinded by the light of the Elon God, they won't."
    The genius consistently stands out from the masses in that he unconsciously anticipates truths of which the population as a whole only later becomes conscious! Speech-circa 1937

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    Lightbulb Re: Alex Jones on The Tucker Carlson Show December 2023

    Quote Posted by Ratszinger (here)
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    In my view, it is all said on the bases (assumption) that Elon Musk "must" be evil and "must" be 100% compromised.

    I personally think it is much more a gray area where Elon made deals to get "Ultra Rich" to fund his Mars Project and thus may have made some sacrifices (on certain levels) "for his greater good" mega project.

    Now imagine if nobody did anything to challenge twitter (and the likes) with a reach of billions of people per year ... in the way that almost nobody could, except Elon ... OFF COURSE, we have to stay vigilant & highly critical towards any powerhouse! ... and not blindly trust everything Elon claims or does <<< to assume we are not doing that like David Icke (who I personally met face to face in 1994, 1996 & 2011) insinuates is highly insulting to our intelligence ... David spewing his frustration, that is only partly correct.

    But there are many ways to demonize Elon, meanwhile if anyone else was in his shoes might realize how complex the situation really is ... Armchair critics everywhere <<< and sometimes they are "right on target" what they claim, but still I feel a sense of sideline-talkers "thinking they are so much better" <<< but are they really?
    • Whatever happens, I still feel that the resistance worldwide has gotten an enormous boost, much more encouragements, less demoralized, much more opportunities coming out of this "freedom fighters network" affecting millions because of it ... Especially more "insiders" who falsely assumed they are "good people" getting faster inspired to question their role in helping the Tyrannical Dystopian WEF Agenda2030/NetZero2050 ... as they are the ones who really can throw sand in the NWO Machine.
    When evil "allows" certain freedoms, you might demonize those who took that freedom and being happy about it ... you're supposed to be angry 24/7 and demand 100% perfect society (which I love to talk about how that looks like).

    For me the KEY is the: "allow yourself to surprise yourself" mentality, outsmarting defeatism, go beyond the imposed duality thinking, especially within the "truther movement" aka "conspiracy research people" network or "suppressed news exposer's" network.

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    Default Re: Alex Jones on The Tucker Carlson Show December 2023

    Quote Posted by Bill Ryan (here)
    Quote Posted by mountain_jim (here)
    I voted yes for his free speech, but also am aware of the evidence of his being controlled opposition in some areas, particularly Mossad-related for one.
    Thanks for that comment. Yes, I entirely agree.

    On 7 October, just hours after the Hamas attack happened, this was Alex Jones' Emergency Broadcast:
    https://banned.video/watch?id=6521bee014094f1a3d94d0d3

    He immediately stated that Iran was behind the attack.

    (And curiously, he also got Hamas and Hezbollah all mixed up with each other. Do listen.)

    Since then, a scan of all the videos, articles and features on Infowars.com shows that there's been zero condemnation of the Israeli genocide.

    All this is very useful for us, because it helps us understand Alex's position and filter his broadcasts intelligently. (But just as a personal note here, I'll no longer be following his work... I'm not convinced he can be fully trusted any more.)

    Thanks... I took a look at the video you linked to released on Oct 7th - and to be honest I didn't see anything to worry about - I have no idea if Iran (or Hezbollah) was behind the Oct 7th attack - or if Hamas could possibly get the whole thing together without help although that seems highly unlikely because of how constricted, surveilled and isolated they are - I might even consider ISIS /IS being involved...with or without the cooperation of Israel - and there remains the question whether Israel/NWO actually set the whole thing up (a step further than just 'letting it happen' ) so Gaza could be erased -

    If anyone wants to cut to the chase regarding Alex's remarks .. 27:00 is a good place to start - and the 10 minutes following that...

    I could have transcribed a lot more but it's time consuming so I just lifted this bit out - which I will say from the onset gives the impression that Alex is Anti War... which I believe he genuinely is...

    (34:05) .......

    Quote Trump's blaming Iran, Israel's blaming Iran - Hamas is the main group that runs the govt in the Gaza Strip -there's millions of people there in the Gaza Strip...it's a hell hole ... they routinely get bombed by the Israelis and they bomb the Israelis back - it's a 75 year war it's terrible.. it needs to be fixed but this is definitely not going to fix it -taking hostages and targeting civilians is not good - but let's just be honest - I'm not endorsing what they did and I'm not endorsing the Israelis dropping 1,000, 2,000 lb bombs on apartment buildings and killing women and children en masse....

    So if you want to call Hamas and Hezbollah terrorists - and I think targeting civilians is terrible...well then what is Israel doing ? what was Obama doing when he bombed a muslim wedding and killed 100s of people and saying well we killed the one guy we wanted so it's collateral damage .. so before we criticize Hamas and Hezbollah we have to criticize our own government and the Israeli government..
    regarding the condemnation (or lack of it) of the Gaza genocide by the Israeli Govt (in cahoots with the Neo Fascist Globalists IMO)... I don't know if Alex has come right out and made a clear condemnation - I have no hesitation to make that condemnation myself - but I'm not in the same position that Alex is.... attacked from all angles and under severe pressure for years... trying to run Infowars and stay on air - also responsible for paying wages to people who work for him... has he held back from outright public condemnation for any reason?.... I don't know.... but his general comments about his opposition to war and killing civilians make me think he would personally condemn it -

    ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

    general comment...

    these are incredibly divisive times and we must keep our cool as much as possible and not turn on each other...


    David Icke's comments in the post 43 above being a case in point...

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    Exclamation Re: Alex Jones on The Tucker Carlson Show December 2023

    🚨Live With Alex Jones, Elon Musk, Vivek Ramaswamy & Andrew Tate| Debut On X
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    Default Re: Alex Jones on The Tucker Carlson Show December 2023

    ^ summing up - copying here

    Quote Posted by mountain_jim (here)
    https://x.com/breeadail/status/1733953862719959396?s=20

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    Thumbs up Re: Alex Jones on The Tucker Carlson Show December 2023

    AJ reinstated Twitter account went from 900K followers to 1,4M followers in just 1 day!
    • 500K new supporters in just 1 day! (not many can say that on any political social media platform!)

    • above video has 1.9M views in 3 hours
    • 4.3M Views in 14 hours, something CNN can rarely can do nowadays
    ... and this is just the beginning

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    Default Re: Alex Jones on The Tucker Carlson Show December 2023

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    " I worked for Alex Jones for nearly a decade. Had a 3 hour program where I gave my take on what was happening without editorial interference — until 2020

    2020 was the year he truly showed what he was made of with the "4D Chess" excuses for Trump rolling out the lockdowns, medical martial law, and creating the shots.

    And then he went full in on "Stop the Steal", laying the groundwork for it 2 days after the election with Steve Pieczenik's BIG lie about "blockchain quantum" ballots identifying those who rigged the election and 20,000 National Guard already arresting people (2 days after the election). It had 1.4M views in the first day. Rush Limbaugh commented on it. Clarence Thomas' wife sent it to Mark Meadows asking if it was true. It wasn't.

    I opposed it here and on my Infowars show. I was told I would be fired if I kept it up. I continued to call it BS. When Alex was raising who knows how much money for his Jan6 shenanigans I called it a grift on air. I continued to warn people away from J6 up to, and including that morning on my now independent show.

    Tucker & Alex are close friends — both are trust fund kids with extensive family connections to the CIA in case you don't know. "

    https://x.com/libertytarian/status/1...973479496?s=20

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    Default Re: Alex Jones on The Tucker Carlson Show December 2023

    This post came without sources to back it up but I seem to recall this as well...



    https://x.com/TheReal40_Head/status/...853540363?s=20



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    Who here remembers digging into AJ's house in Texas and tracking the paperwork on it back to Israel? Who remembers the evidence showing regular payments to that network by people believed to be connected to Mossad? Remember when the entire movement moved away from AJ after he made seriously fraudulent claims about 17?

    I do.

    There are millions who won't jump onto the Patriot train because they believe that if AJ is part of this movement, everybody in it must be just as crazy. Think about it...he says all the same things the normal people say, but then adds a bunch of derangement and high blood pressure to the mix. Suddenly, it makes good people on the outside think the truth must not be true if it has that kind of fanaticism connected to it. In a movement that requires discretion, focusing on logic and truth, and not being led by emotion...AJ is the antipode of this movement and the caliber of the people in it.

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    Default Re: Alex Jones on The Tucker Carlson Show December 2023

    For heaven's sake. Even Alex, eh.

    Doesn't fit the preferred narrative? Let's destroy him too.
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    Lightbulb Re: Alex Jones on The Tucker Carlson Show December 2023

    • Wisdom/insight what most people who are crying about AJ "forget" to say:
    If you do not like it ... if you do not agree ... if you do not trust it ... if you "hate" (AJ) style of reporting etc. etc. etc. ... DO IT YOURSELF!
    • Focus on your own qualities and get support on your own merit & effort!
    Show how you think "it must be done" and stick with it (no matter what) let the world see you have something to offer besides criticizing other suppressed news researchers other conspiracy investigators other alternative media producers.

    When you do not like others to support someone, and you feel that YOU deserve that support "much better" and feel sorry for so many who fall for whatever scam/hoax or lies others create ... be aware that you are not responsible for the quality of thinking & judging done by others even if you assume you are.
    • When you use certain framing to expose colleague researchers & alternative media producers, know that everything you do must be 100% perfect and flawless ... if not, you are a hypocrite.
    Often when we hear/see in-fights within the truthers network I notice that the vast majority has no time to see it from all sides and figure out what is 100% accurate or not* what accusations are exaggerated or based upon conjecture or "hear say" or innuendo or a barrage of insinuations ... even if some of it is true you are always free to do it differently and SHOW THE WAY by doing it yourself!

    * even if parts of what you discovered is true, you may not want to understand why someone decided to do it like that and what the exact circumstances are, as your mind is already made up! ... Meaning there is always a stick you can find to hit someone with >>> does not mean you are "all mighty" and "all knowing" wise.

    It is 100% okay to question anyone who has influence, but when you have a personal vendetta or a personal "mission" to "succeed" destroying someone else and see that as "good" >>> you have to be flawless & perfect and 100% certain what you are doing and do NOT MIND to be questioned as well! ... as everything in life works like a mirror!

    Some people get "views" and "clicks" not because of what they have something special to offer, but PURELY because they attack someone that has a huge reach, who has built up something big that took decades of work & effort. Then riding on that celebrity fame vibes to get more subscribers ... and thinking you are now part of that "wave" ... Just like what CNN & MSNBC did with Trump, "Russia Russia Russia" etc.

    The whole "dependency mind games" in the Alternative Media scene is in my view FAKE (full of paid and/or wannabe trolls/agitators) ... People can always wise up from within, not via in-fights having a "soul mission" to focus solely on some other's effort/work meanwhile forgetting the long road you have to walk the talk before they get to a point where they are right now!

    ... and now the fun part, (similar to what Elon said): I really do not give fck what people think of me when I am stating all the above ... am not bowing down to "group think" nor any form of tribalism ... I just use common sense ... that's all.

    There are 4 people who I highly respect who criticized AJ/Elon Musk and walk the talk: ... even so ... that does not make them "perfect" nor "flawless" and certainly not "all knowing".



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    The globalists are working very hard now to divide the alternate media and affiliates.

    It seems to be working...
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    Default Re: Alex Jones on The Tucker Carlson Show December 2023

    I post views from various points of view on Alex - and support his right to be heard, as stated previously. (But maintain he has areas he does not cover, as Bill also agrees with me about).

    https://x.com/WallStreetSilv/status/...126125340?s=20



    This is an interesting 2011 article from an MSM source supposedly debunking 9/11 conspiracy theorists, including much about Alex and Michael Ruppert being involved in their genesis.

    https://www.slate.com/articles/news_...come_from.html

    Somehow it neglects to mention the (heavily covered by Ruppert) Dancing Israelis and the Mossad agent's admission that 'they were there to document the event'. parts of the coverage - which is still quite well documented in FBI reports, video interview of one of the agents, etc.

    Has Alex ever publicized the Mossad-links to 9/11 that Ruppert documented so well?

    If so, I would appreciate hearing this - because up to now it's my understanding that he totally pointed at factions in the US and not the Mossad at all - when it was their 'artists' spies and Urban Moving Systems folks who likely planted the explosives in the towers that contributed to their falling, and admitted to foreknowledge to document the event at the least.

    < at link - back to first Alex-related article >


    Where Did 9/11 Conspiracies Come From?
    The fringe.
    By Jeremy Stahl



    The 9/11 conspiracy theories predate 9/11. On July 25, 2001, in a two-and-a-half-hour broadcast of his Infowars TV program on a local public-access channel, Alex Jones laid out what he saw as the history of government-manufactured false-flag attacks, from the Gulf of Tonkin incident that Lyndon Johnson used to draw the United States deeper into the Vietnam War to the first attack on the World Trade Center in 1993 and the Oklahoma City bombing in 1995, which Jones claimed was government-manufactured terrorism orchestrated to help Bill Clinton boost his poll numbers and suppress civil liberties. As he compared Oklahoma City to the Reichstag fire, Jones flashed the numbers for the congressional and White House switchboards onscreen. "Call the White House and tell them we know the government is planning terrorism," he said. " 'Bin Laden' "—he used air quotes—"is the boogeyman they need in this Orwellian phony system."

    Six weeks later, on the day the Twin Towers fell, Jones began his broadcast by declaring that, as he had predicted, the Bush administration had taken part in a staged terror attack. "I'll tell you the bottom line," Jones said. "98 percent chance this was a government-orchestrated controlled bombing."

    The controlled demolition theory remains the one great unifying dogma of 9/11 "truthers," as they call themselves. But immediately following the attacks, it was a difficult position to take. In the month after 9/11, Jones' steadfast preaching that 9/11 was an inside job cost him more than 70 of his 100-plus radio affiliates. Then again, his early stand would also lend him credibility when disenchantment from both the left and right steadily grew over the following decade. Now, Jones is back on more than 60 radio stations, with an all-time-high audience of 3 million listeners per day, and he boasts of his role in spreading the 9/11 conspiracy theory: "I am the progenitor of the entire enchilada."

    < snip >

    In the weeks and months after 9/11, Jones and Ruppert were already formulating a vast conspiracy theory that would take several years to reach peak popularity. There was another theory, however, that spread more widely and died more quickly, at least in the West. As such, it serves as a lesson in how and where—if not why—conspiracy theories work: by taking a small nugget of truth and constructing entire mythologies around it.

    It took less than 24 hours for vague theories attributing the attacks to Israel to begin to circulate. Four days after 9/11, the first piece of evidence linking Israel to the attacks was reported in Syrian newspaper Al Thawra. The government paper stated that "4,000 Jews were absent from their work on the day of the explosions," the implication being that 4,000 Jews were forewarned about the attacks by the actual plotters, fellow Jews. The story spread through the Middle East. The original source of that precise 4,000 number was the Jerusalem Post, which reported on the day of the attacks that "[t]he Foreign Ministry in Jerusalem has so far received the names of 4,000 Israelis believed to have been in the areas of the World Trade Center and the Pentagon at the time of the attacks."

    Slate and popular myth-busting site Snopes.com were two of the first outlets to debunk the rumor. Yet 10 years later, morphed versions of the discredited "Jewish foreknowledge" stories are still being repeated by fringe anti-Semitic 9/11 conspiracy theorists, including Iranian President Mahmoud Ahmadinejad. The theory does not have much traction in America, even among 9/11 conspiracy theorists, but it has maintained consistent popularity on the Arab street, where according to the New York Times it is conventional wisdom that Jews were warned to stay home that day.









    https://newamericangovernment.org/th...-9-11-attacks/

    The Dancing Israelis: Mossad Foreknowledge of 9/11 Attacks





    Quote The relevant section of the FBI report asks, “Did the Israeli nationals have foreknowledge of the events at WTC and were they filming the events prior to and in anticipation of the explosion?” The answer is notably redacted in its entirety.

    For more coverage on the FBI’s “dancing Israelis” report, we highly recommend Whitney Webb’s article on Mint Press News.
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    • Alex Jones Interview! Elon Brought Him Back... What's Next?!

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    Default Re: Alex Jones on The Tucker Carlson Show December 2023

    I found this overall analysis of the various factions by Mike Adams today to be very educational:

    (It is 1 hour 37 minutes, so if you are short on time, the first 30 minutes is informative in itself)

    BBN, DEC 11, 2023 - ALEX JONES, ELON MUSK, DONALD TRUMP, MILITARY INTELLIGENCE, AI WARS AND SKYNET

    Quote - Alex Jones' Twitter reinstatement and its implications for America's future. (0:00)
    - US politics, military, and intelligence networks. (2:48)
    - Elon Musk's role in reinstating banned accounts and promoting Trump. (16:03)
    - Keeping America alive through military might and media awakening. (20:59)
    - Trump, immigration, and national security. (26:15)
    - AI development and military simulations. (37:13)
    - AI development for military use. (42:06)
    - Using AI for bio weapons development. (48:30)
    - AI advancements in China and its potential impact on military power. (57:55)
    - Education, AI, and global competitiveness. (1:03:00)
    - AI's impact on media, law, and survival. (1:13:20)

    Source: https://www.bitchute.com/video/JP7V1DVoSOh5

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    Default Re: Alex Jones on The Tucker Carlson Show December 2023

    ^ I made it this far and took some notes

    (though I suspect the early Q op was part of this military intelligence effort to combat globalist destruction of the US, and a whiter-shade of grey than Mike Adams apparently believes. I also don't think Trump supporting big Pharma/vaccines in the future is a slam dunk after the proven mistakes of his past, but agree with Mike that he would be good for funding the military's tech upgrades to MAGA ends)

    3:50 Pro america faction - corporate interests - enjoys power and profits, money printing,
    Not white hats, but not globalist black hats
    Deep intelligence networks have gained upper hand due to failures of globalists

    Defeat of Nato/Ukraine - shocks through system - monumental failures
    6:50 Pro trump, pro elon, this faction got so fed up - revolt from within
    Trump repays favor with corporate funding when back in
    8:00 Trump supports Big Israel, money printing
    Will approve massive military payments, massive pharma handouts (says they are backing him)
    11:30 Trump will fast-track pharma vaxes
    13:00 elon wants to build cyborg soldiers - with mind control at control (mind-machine interface)
    Cyborg - fully automated robot soldiers
    16:00 US to remain viable, needs to lead in AI, Neurolink implants,
    Elon seen as key gatekeeper for applied tech - very good at applying science to practical matters
    An aggregator of tech into practical deployment
    Mike Believes deal between deep military intelligence and reinstatement of trump - Tucker brought on to help
    Given green light to activate anyone that can turn tide for Trump and against globalists

    This is why Alex reinstated - more right than MSM for decades -
    Alex Banned to rig election in 2020

    21 - alex talking about shoring up military might, borders,
    22 - trump will print trillians of dollars to support helping MAGA - extend dollar lifespan
    'combat field medic for dollar' Trump
    24 - rather live in a world where US strong and constitution exists than globalist controlled
    26 - Infowars viable platform - reporting truths every day to red pill folks - make a difference

    27 team globalist or team america? - military intelligence pro-trump faction - all tied into big business,
    28 - open borders is a globalist op to destroy america
    30 - concerned about what plans to round up illegals would look like
    Something must be done to save america from invasion and occupation
    31 - opposed to military running country -
    33 - costs of keeping america intact - horrifying - pray for compassion while maintaining safety
    34 - AI - important inside info to share - working on AI language model now - open source
    Nutrition, healing foods, agriculture knowledge, indigenous medicine
    35 - real money comes from war - ukraine, Israel,
    37 AI focus in military - dominating alpha go - developed by deep mind -
    42 - war simulations, AI pilot scripts, on supercomputers around US

    < I got weary of the AI dev nuts and bolts and stopped listening >
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    Thanks Jim! Was going to link it to the other thread where I thought it would give invaluable insight from the American perspective, but you beat me to it. Thank you very much, appreciated.
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    Quote Posted by arwen (here)
    I found this overall analysis of the various factions by Mike Adams today to be very educational:

    (It is 1 hour 37 minutes, so if you are short on time, the first 30 minutes is informative in itself)

    BBN, DEC 11, 2023 - ALEX JONES, ELON MUSK, DONALD TRUMP, MILITARY INTELLIGENCE, AI WARS AND SKYNET

    Quote - Alex Jones' Twitter reinstatement and its implications for America's future. (0:00)
    - US politics, military, and intelligence networks. (2:48)
    - Elon Musk's role in reinstating banned accounts and promoting Trump. (16:03)
    - Keeping America alive through military might and media awakening. (20:59)
    - Trump, immigration, and national security. (26:15)
    - AI development and military simulations. (37:13)
    - AI development for military use. (42:06)
    - Using AI for bio weapons development. (48:30)
    - AI advancements in China and its potential impact on military power. (57:55)
    - Education, AI, and global competitiveness. (1:03:00)
    - AI's impact on media, law, and survival. (1:13:20)

    Source: https://www.bitchute.com/video/JP7V1DVoSOh5

    I have listened to all of it (highly recommend everybody to do the same) and agree with almost everything what Mike Adams perfectly laid out ... except, in my view, Mike Adams overlooked (or missed out) the RFK Jr. Factor and the UFO Disclosure Factor! ... Maybe he just assumes both play "no significance" because the: "Trump Team" aka "USA 1st Team" aka "Big Military (Intelligence) Spending Team" aka "Big Pharma Team Making Giant Profits" aka "Big Banksters/Business Team" aka "Big Israel Team" aka "Big A.I. team" all together will "take care of that problem" in such a way that their agenda is "guaranteed" ?

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    Default Re: Alex Jones on The Tucker Carlson Show December 2023

    Quote Posted by mountain_jim (here)
    13:00 elon wants to build cyborg soldiers - with mind control at control (mind-machine interface)
    What I make of it:

    It is not Elon that "wants" that ... it is much more that US Military love to use his Neuralink Tech for future A.I. warfare, and he will be asked to cooperate in exchange for some other favors that can help him with his passion: The Mars Mega Project.

    So that is a slight different take on what Mike said.

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