WW3? Ukraine/US vs. Donbass/Russia

Candid

Say we are or wanna be a little candid and the speech from that warmonger( Sebastian Gorka) was on automatic pilot...and so nobody get kill before the new Admin is in charge.

But then...there is nothing Russia can be seduced with, dupe, bargain,etc. Only FACTS !

Russia got their facts on the ground...U.S.? they have no more lies to expend, they used all and then some...

Then? Somebody or somethig come to the senses or the North Hemisphere will be no more...

Some people in this forum will remember the Bushes,Angela Merkel and others parasite acquiring huge terrain in the biggest water reservoir in South America, between Argentina,Paraguay and Brazil...

Wonder why...

• Russia-Ukraine War: Putin Orders His Gigantic "Satan II" Nukes To Be On Combat Duty 'Soon' | WION:

Source: https://youtube.com/watch?v=5F4TSVipbrQ

Back in 1990 the US made a promise to Russia that NATO would not expand to the east of Germany. In 1999 the US broke that promise. That was the beginning of this.

• ‼️🌐⚠️ tinyurl.com/NATO-666

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Posted by Bruce G Charlton

@Mike - You may be interested by scanning some of these essays by Terry Boardman, which provide evidence that the Anglo leadership class's strategic antagonism to Russia goes back at least as far as the last decades of the 19th century.

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Bruce (or others?), could you distill his idea, in some short words?

This is a great mystery for us all who may soon have to die for this incomprehensible hate.

(Here, in Finland, the age to serve in army shall soon be risen to 65, according to our 'attack' minister.)

[And: 'Secretary' is a young woman who takes notes from 'Minister', who is not a priest. :]

Trump may be Oreshniked on Ukraine even before he gets to China by Pepe Escobar

https://www.sott.net/image/s35/71897...IK_930x520.jpg

When it comes to state of the art Russian weaponry, what the inestimable Ray McGovern defines as the MICIMATT – the whole Hegemonic complex – seems to dwell in perpetual stupor.

They had no clue about Kalibr, Sarmat, Khinzal, Zircon or Avangard before they were introduced. They had no clue about Oreshnik (‘Hazel”) before the 30-minute protocolar warning by the Russians, stating a missile test was coming, and it was not nuclear. The Americans assumed that would be just another ballistic missile test, as they happen routinely close to the Arctic.

continue: https://strategic-culture.su/news/20...he-gets-china/

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Delicious article from mega simpatico Pepe ... :chuckle:

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Posted by Bruce G Charlton

@Mike - You may be interested by scanning some of these essays by Terry Boardman, which provide evidence that the Anglo leadership class's strategic antagonism to Russia goes back at least as far as the last decades of the 19th century.

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Bruce (or others?), could you distill his idea, in some short words?

This is a great mystery for us all who may soon have to die for this incomprehensible hate.

(Here, in Finland, the age to serve in army shall soon be risen to 65, according to our 'attack' minister.)

[And: 'Secretary' is a young woman who takes notes from 'Minister', who is not a priest. :]

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@Hopsan - "Bruce (or others?), could you distill his idea, in some short words?"

What I said did distil TB's ideas in a few short words! The articles cited provide the detailed evidence for that statement.

Commenting on Vicus' post #17821 above.

Interesting Vicus. First time I hear of the Bush and Angela Merkel acquiring large amounts of lands in South America. But I'm not surprised. Any other elite parasites have done this?

Is this why they're sending illegal migrants northward to invade the US and Canada? (Canadians will have to move out and seek refuge in some other country to escape that onslaught, it's getting that bad.) Could it be that these elites (or parasites) be looking to cleanse, I mean, 'acquire' huge tracks of lands for them to move to once they've unleashed destabilizing wars, food shortages and mass migrations on the western countries, getting rid of most of the populations there?

That is one aspect that I haven't heard the Russians discuss, which is that these deep state western leaders are above all seeking major world depopulation. They're eager to launch WW3 to achieve that. The Russians better face that fact now, and prepare for that eventuality. Right now it only looks like the Russians are surprised at western leaders 'irrational' or 'irresponsible' moves in aggravating Russia. Please Russia, face the fact that these western leaders or NATO members are really seeking major world depopulation & destruction. There's no other explanation for what they're doing. In the meantime these deep state western leaders are ignoring the very real damage they've inflicted on their own suffering populations.

• Putin: New Missile Turns Everything To Dust | Russia-Ukraine War News:

Source: https://youtube.com/watch?v=JxKLAl0qyVQ

Speaking at a summit of the Collective Security Treaty Organization (CSTO) in Kazakhstan, Russian President Vladimir Putin said that Russia’s new Oreshnik ballistic missile could target “decision-making centers in Kyiv.”

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Please Russia, face the fact that these western leaders or NATO members are really seeking major world depopulation & destruction.

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I am quite confident that Putin knows this. Russia has lost many tens of millions of its own people to these evil bastards.

General Flynn live in the studio for a long chat and assessment of the situation (over 2 hours)

Alex Jones 2024-Nov-28 Thursday (this link starts at the beginning of the General Flynn chat)

Something tells me we have now reached the final moments of the Zelensky regime, Putin has reaffirmed that the penis piano player is a Usurper, a word only employed when strong actions are imminent, Alex M has delivered his analysis of the upcoming 'Decapitation' event, Colonel MacGregor mentioned the preparations for a large incursion (field ablutions, lots of food, fresh supplies) and of course Putin's stern lectures concerning Russia's unstoppable Hazelnut missile delivery system. Russia has always followed its own schedule, defying predictions and superficial analysis, inexorable; their determination and quiet confidence contrasting vividly with the braggarts and cock-a-hoop pronouncements from the NATO/USA/UK factions: I predict this time next week we shall all be looking at a vastly different set of circumstances and Trump's 'peace envoy' with General Kellogg will become instantly irrelevant.
****I am not normally concerned with social media 'fame' but Stephen K Bannon has followed me on X, it is definitely his account, what do you reckon about that kids?*** haha

https://x.com/KyivIndependent/status...19633716146204

https://x.com/jaccocharite/status/1862491409233658048

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📹🔥 Thermal cameras capture Ukrainian paratroopers' surrender near Kharkov

Ukrainian paratroopers holding a long-term firing position have surrendered to the 1st Tank Army of the Zapad battlegroup near Kopanka in the Kharkov region.

Sputnik shared thermal imaging footage of the militants laying down their weapons.

https://x.com/jaccocharite/status/1862414383994765551

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All men aged 18-25 in Ukraine will undergo basic military training in 2025, according to Ivan Tymochko, chairman of the Council of Reservists of the AFU Ground Forces.

Also today, Ukrainian media reported that women who complete basic military training will be included in the register of persons liable for military service.

@ukraine_watch

https://x.com/Zlatti_71/status/1862551142305308920

https://x.com/dana916/status/1862537258512867497

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🇺🇦🏳️ Captured serviceman Aleksandr Petukhov tells how AFU officers mobilised him, threatening to take his son to front line

There is practically no rotation on firing positions of the Armed Forces of Ukraine. AFU officers take seriously wounded people only. There are not enough people.

'Territorial Center of Recruitment and Social Support officers threatened to take the child to the front line. They gave me a draft notice and then mobilized me. On 23 September we were taken to Kursk region, and until 1 November I was on a firing position. All this time we were severely bombed, there were practically no rotations, only seriously wounded people were taken from the positions, and there was a catastrophic shortage of people. I was not healthy but they sent me there with high temperature and bronchitis anyway. They didn't take me away until the very end. We even wanted to run away from the position, because there was nothing at all. The commanders threatened us, saying that if we even left the position we would not be redeployed, we would be shot down by our own troops. We just had no place to go,' said the POW.

Russian Defense Ministry

https://x.com/dana916/status/1862536115560853983

https://x.com/PeteLiquid/status/1862530538965205487

https://x.com/MayadeenEnglish/status...51876157223136

https://english.almayadeen.net/news/...-to-force-peac

Trump's Ukraine envoy proposes cutting weapons to force peace talks

Trump's envoy to Ukraine and Russia, retired Lieutenant General Keith Kellogg, co-authored a contentious peace proposal earlier this year with former CIA analyst Fred Fleitz.

The document, titled America First, Russia & Ukraine, proposes halting US weapons deliveries to Ukraine if it refuses to enter peace talks, while escalating military support if Russia resists negotiations. The plan also suggests delaying or abandoning Ukraine's NATO membership as a bargaining chip to bring Moscow to the table.

In presenting the plan, Kellogg and Fleitz argue that the Biden administration's "unserious and incoherent" foreign policy, including the withdrawal from Afghanistan and strained relations with allies like Saudi Arabia and "Israel", created conditions for the war. They contend that the US should prioritize diplomacy over sanctions and military confrontation.

"An America First approach could have prevented the invasion," the document claims, criticizing what it describes as the Biden administration's "hostile policy" that strengthened a Russia-China-Iran alliance.

Read more: Trump's new term targets Iran, backs 'Israel', confronts China head-on

The proposal acknowledges the difficulty of convincing Ukraine to accept a deal that may not restore all its territory or hold Russia accountable for the destruction. "Our concern is that this has become a war of attrition that's going to kill a whole generation of young men," Fleitz said in a recent interview.

Push for Ukraine Peace Plan

Trump reportedly responded favorably to the plan, saying, “I'm the only one who can get the war stopped. It should have never started in the first place." He emphasized that European nations should contribute more aid, echoing calls from Republican leaders like JD Vance to reduce the US financial burden.

Kellogg's appointment also highlights his extensive military and political background. A veteran of the Vietnam War, he served as National Security Advisor to Vice President Mike Pence and Acting National Security Advisor to Trump after Michael Flynn's resignation. His role during the January 6 Capitol riots, where he reportedly insisted on keeping Pence in the building to certify the election results, has further bolstered his profile as a staunch Trump loyalist.

The announcement comes as the Biden administration rushes to transfer more weapons to Ukraine before the end of Biden's term. Recent reports suggest considerations of supplying US-made missiles, which prompted sharp criticism from Russia. Kremlin spokesman Dmitry Peskov labeled discussions of nuclear armament for Ukraine as "absolutely irresponsible."

Critics of the Kellogg-Fleitz plan question its practicality and moral implications. They argue it pressures Ukraine into negotiations while failing to address Russia's accountability for the war. Supporters, however, view it as a pragmatic solution to end a costly and escalating conflict.

As the Draconian Western-led sanctions on Russia exacerbate the economic crisis worldwide, and as Russian troops gain more ground despite the influx of military aid into Ukraine, exposing US direct involvement in bio-labs spread across Eastern Europe and the insurgence of neo-Nazi groups… How will things unfold?

https://x.com/MoonofA/status/1862173907375075711

https://www.moonofalabama.org/2024/1...ukrainian.html

To The Last Ukrainian
November 28, 2024

The U.S. is willing to (proxy-)fight Russia down to the last Ukrainian.

White House presses Ukraine to lower draft age to meet manpower needs against Russia

WASHINGTON (AP) — President Joe Biden's administration is urging Ukraine to quickly increase the size of its military by drafting more troops and revamping its mobilization laws to allow for the conscription of those as young as 18. A senior Biden administration official, who spoke on the condition of anonymity to discuss the private consultations, said Wednesday that the outgoing Democratic administration wants Ukraine to lower the mobilization age to 18 from the current age of 25 to expand the pool of fighting-age men available to help a badly outnumbered Ukraine in its nearly three-year-old war with Russia.
The official said “the pure math” of Ukraine's situation now is that it needs more troops in the fight.

"Pure math" also says that following the advice order from Washington will guarantee that there will be no future Ukrainians left to fight for:

I have pointed out six month ago that there are hardly a significant number of 18 to 25 year old left in Ukraine. If that cohort gets further diminished by senseless dying Ukraine's future will be even more bleak than it is now. Even the British nuts who earlier proposed to draft 18 year old Ukrainians have learned to shut up about it.
The graphic below, taken from Wikipedia's Demographics of Ukraine, presumes that Ukraine has a population of some 40 million:

https://www.moonofalabama.org/17i/ukrdem-s.jpg

bigger But the real population number in the areas under control of the Ukrainian government is by now only about 20 million, half of which are people of retirement age. Drafting the few men of age 18 to 25 will not help to win the war but will, over time, further depopulate Ukraine.

Even without sacrificing its youth Ukraine's demographic outlook is already bad:

Ukraine’s total fertility rate – the average number of babies per woman of child-bearing age – is currently 0.7, the lowest in the world. The country’s demographics have been further affected by a mass exodus to the West and significant casualties on the battlefield, to the point where the very survival of the nation is in question, a government-funded think tank told The Times earlier this year. “Male life expectancy has decreased from 66-67 before the war to 57-58,” said Ella Libanova, head of the Institute for Demography and Social Studies at the National Academy of Sciences of Ukraine. Only four African countries – Chad, Nigeria, Lesotho and the Central African Republic – have lower life expectancies.

During the war on Vietnam the U.S. completely destroyed the town of Ben Tre:

“It became necessary to destroy the town to save it,” a U.S. major said Wednesday.

Now the U.S. is likewise destroying the people of Ukraine to "save them" from further existence.

Ukrainian officials have for now rejected U.S. demands to lower the mobilization age:

"We are now in the situation when we need more equipment to arm all the people that have already been mobilized, and we think the first priority is to send quicker, faster military aid," Heorhii Tykhyi, a spokesman for Ukraine's foreign ministry, told reporters in Kyiv.
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His statement echoed a comment on Wednesday from Ukrainian presidential adviser Dmytro Lytvyn, who criticized what he said was sluggish military aid. "Ukraine cannot be expected to compensate for delays in logistics or hesitation in support with the youth of our men on the frontline,” Lytvyn wrote on X.

Politicians in Ukraine, like elsewhere, are bribable. With a significant amount of additional cash the Zelenzki regime can be induced to follow whatever wishes Washington might have.

Mobilizing the youth may though be the last decision the former president of Ukraine will make.

Russian court sentences US mercenary for fighting with Ukraine forces

https://weeklyblitz.net/2024/11/30/r...kraine-forces/