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    The General Staff of the Armed Forces of Ukraine has reinforced the Svatovskoye direction with nationalists, transferring the 3rd assault brigade "Azov" to the Borovaya area TODAY

    The command of the Ukrainian group in the Svatovsky direction has transferred nationalists to the area of ​​the village of Kopanki, which was previously liberated by Russian troops. This was reported by Russian expert, retired LPR NM Lieutenant Colonel Andrey Marochko.

    The General Staff of the Armed Forces of Ukraine is trying to stabilize the situation in the Svatovsky area, where Russian troops are advancing on Borovaya from both sides, which is the main logistics hub and the main fortified area of ​​the Ukrainian army in this area. Since it is useless to transfer territorial defense brigades, the 3rd Assault Brigade of the Armed Forces of Ukraine "Azov"* was sent here, the nationalists must stop the Russian offensive with counterattacks. If anyone did not know, Kyiv has two brigades called "Azov"* - this is the 12th Operational Brigade of the National Guard and the 3rd Assault Brigade of the Armed Forces of Ukraine.

    It is noted that nationalists were previously present in this area, but their numbers were small. By transferring significant forces, the General Staff intends not only to stop the advance of the Russian Armed Forces, but also, if possible, to "recapture" some of the territories. The General Staff of the Armed Forces of Ukraine has such plans, but the question of their implementation arises.

    Meanwhile, Russian troops are moving very successfully towards Borovaya; the day before, our troops took Zeleny Gai and also advanced along the Oskol River.

    https://en.topwar.ru/254552-genshtab...gadu-azov.html

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    Perfect! the table is serve with the favorite dish for the FABS monsters...AZOV scum!

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    Putin is under immense pressure right now, both from increasingly angry, outspoken Russian public opinion and from officials within the Kremlin, to take far more aggressive action.

    If he orders strikes outside Ukraine into Europe, that's extremely dangerous and he knows it. I'd suspect what he will do is authorize a clear escalation of dramatic strikes within Ukraine. And if that's his decision, that will happen soon.
    This is a useful and very interesting update from Professor Gilbert Doctorow, published a few hours ago. He pretty much confirms what I suggested above — that Putin is sure to very soon authorize a far more destructive strike, this time maybe directly on Kiev (or just possibly Moldova, a known gathering point for western munitions and personnel, even though it's not in NATO).

    He discounts a strike on the UK or Poland as being too risky. The mood in Russia, Doctorow reports, is that they're simply not going to tolerate these strikes any longer.

    Dr. Gilbert Doctorow : Russia’s Deadly New Missile


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    I see many News posts on Alex Jones's platform declaring that NATO is poised to launch a 'sneak attack' on Russia, a lot of such talk.
    Alex Jones/Infowars is often very sensational! — as are many other platforms right now, both mainstream and 'alternative'. There's a lot of clickbait everywhere.

    For the most grounded and sober analysis of current events, I'd recommend (1) Pepe Escobar, (2) Alexander Mercouris (on his own channel and also on The Duran, (3) Jeffrey Sachs, (4) Douglas Macgregor, (5) Ray McGovern, and (6) Alastair Crooke, who's usually only to be found with Judge Napolitano every Monday morning.

    There are a few others, but those are my own go-to sources for reliable information. If I had to choose just one, I'd stick with Pepe Escobar.
    You are 100% about Infowars Bill, and yes all of the sources you mention I also visit regularly, I am now feeling a lot better from my virus/cold type illness, and my anxiety levels have subsided - I don't often succumb to illness and it catches me off-guard! I found Colonel MacGregor's revelation that 180,000 Russian troops are gathering along with lots of food/showers for the fighters indicate a huge push is imminent to bring this conflict to a dramatic conclusion, to be very interesting! I like the Colonel enormously, Trump should definitely tap him for foreign policy-type consulting.









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    Quote Posted by Mike Gorman (here)
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    I see many News posts on Alex Jones's platform declaring that NATO is poised to launch a 'sneak attack' on Russia, a lot of such talk.
    Alex Jones/Infowars is often very sensational! — as are many other platforms right now, both mainstream and 'alternative'. There's a lot of clickbait everywhere.

    For the most grounded and sober analysis of current events, I'd recommend (1) Pepe Escobar, (2) Alexander Mercouris (on his own channel and also on The Duran, (3) Jeffrey Sachs, (4) Douglas Macgregor, (5) Ray McGovern, and (6) Alastair Crooke, who's usually only to be found with Judge Napolitano every Monday morning.

    There are a few others, but those are my own go-to sources for reliable information. If I had to choose just one, I'd stick with Pepe Escobar.
    You are 100% about Infowars Bill, and yes all of the sources you mention I also visit regularly, I am now feeling a lot better from my virus/cold type illness, and my anxiety levels have subsided - I don't often succumb to illness and it catches me off-guard! I found Colonel MacGregor's revelation that 180,000 Russian troops are gathering along with lots of food/showers for the fighters indicate a huge push is imminent to bring this conflict to a dramatic conclusion, to be very interesting! I like the Colonel enormously, Trump should definitely tap him for foreign policy-type consulting.


    I'll repeat my 100% certainty that this situation won't go nuclear. But that doesn't preclude a bunch of dramatic developments that may well scare a lot of people — and (we hope!) generate some valuable public discussion about what the heck is really happening and why.

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    Ukraine misses it: Russian jets disappear from strategic base today

    Satellite imagery from November 26 reveals a significant shift in the number of bombers and fighter jets stationed at Russia’s Engels-2 airbase. According to AMK Mapping, which posted the analysis on its X account, Ukrainian intelligence channels appear to have missed the relocation of these aircraft entirely.

    The images show a notable decrease in the number of heavy bombers, with only five strategic aircraft remaining: two Tu-160 Blackjacks and three Tu-95MS Bears. This is an unusually small presence compared to earlier stages of the war in Ukraine.

    The base also hosts a modest number of tactical aircraft, including two Su-35 Flankers, four Su-34 Fullbacks, and an additional four Su-35 attack fighters. Supporting aircraft include one Su-24MR reconnaissance jet and an An-12 cargo plane.

    The reduction in strategic bombers marks a significant shift, suggesting that Engels-2 is being scaled back as a hub for large-scale operations. Instead, the base appears to be focusing more on training activities and sustaining a smaller operational footprint. Observers believe most of the relocated bombers have been transferred to Olenya Airbase, a remote facility in the Murmansk region of the Arctic.

    Despite the overall reduction, the satellite imagery also provides evidence of operational activity. One Tu-95 and three Tu-95MS bombers at the base were reportedly armed with Kh-101 cruise missiles.

    Another image captures the loading of missiles onto a Tu-160 Blackjack, with a significant number of shipping containers visible nearby—potentially holding additional ordnance or support equipment.

    The relocation of Russia’s strategic bombers could signal preparations for the next stage of Moscow’s military operations. Alternatively, it may reflect a tactical response to Ukraine’s increasing capabilities, particularly its recent authorization to strike deep within Russian territory using Storm Shadow cruise missiles. Engels-2, a key launch site for attacks against Ukraine, is a high-value target that Kyiv may now feel emboldened to engage.

    While any attempt by Ukraine to target Engels-2 with Storm Shadow missiles would carry immense operational risks, the approval to conduct such strikes reshapes the strategic calculus. Engels-2’s role as a cornerstone of Russian offensive tactics underscores why its defenses, operations, and aircraft deployments are now under intense scrutiny.

    To effectively strike the Engels-2 airbase using Storm Shadow missiles, Ukraine would need to employ meticulous planning and sophisticated tactics to overcome the missile’s range limitation [approximately 350 miles] while avoiding Russian air defenses. This requires a combination of precision, mobility, and deception to ensure success against one of Russia’s most strategic airbases.

    The first step involves positioning the launch platforms—likely modified Su-24 fighter-bombers—within striking distance of the target. These aircraft would need to operate from forward-deployed airbases in eastern Ukraine, potentially near Kharkiv or other areas along the frontlines.

    From these positions, Engels-2 lies within the missile’s operational range, but not without risks. To minimize exposure, the aircraft would likely need to fly extremely low, skimming terrain at altitudes of 100–150 feet to evade radar detection.

    Simultaneously, Ukraine could deploy a diversionary strategy to mislead Russian defenses. This might involve launching long-range drones toward Engels-2 as decoys, distracting air defense systems like the S-400 or Pantsir while the primary aircraft approach undetected.

    To enhance this, Ukraine could also employ electronic warfare measures to jam Russian radar installations, reducing their ability to detect the incoming strike.

    The coordination of such an attack would hinge on high-quality intelligence. Satellite imagery, possibly provided by Western allies, could pinpoint the positions of Russian bombers and key infrastructure within Engels-2.

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    Pepe Escobar | Russia's Lethal Message: Will the West Finally Listen? | Nov. 27, 2024

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    • Tensions Soar As Russian Warplanes Challenge American Air Force In Skies Of Europe | Gravitas:

    On Monday, Russian fighter jets intercepted and challenged American bombers near the Baltic Sea. Even as the ground below is already in battle mode, with rapid Russian advance across the Ukraine front, and Ukraine's response using the latest missiles rushed by America and Europe to Kyiv. Will the continuing spiral of actions and counteractions escalate into something far more dangerous?
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    Quote Posted by Bill Ryan (here)
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    Putin is under immense pressure right now, both from increasingly angry, outspoken Russian public opinion and from officials within the Kremlin, to take far more aggressive action.

    If he orders strikes outside Ukraine into Europe, that's extremely dangerous and he knows it. I'd suspect what he will do is authorize a clear escalation of dramatic strikes within Ukraine. And if that's his decision, that will happen soon.
    This is a useful and very interesting update from Professor Gilbert Doctorow, published a few hours ago. He pretty much confirms what I suggested above — that Putin is sure to very soon authorize a far more destructive strike, this time maybe directly on Kiev (or just possibly Moldova, a known gathering point for western munitions and personnel, even though it's not in NATO).

    He discounts a strike on the UK or Poland as being too risky. The mood in Russia, Doctorow reports, is that they're simply not going to tolerate these strikes any longer.

    Dr. Gilbert Doctorow : Russia’s Deadly New Missile

    From 17.50-18.58 in the above video, Judge Napolitano shows a clip from Sebastian Gorka, who's President Trump's Director for Counterrorism, and have to say I am completely shocked at the attitude of this man. I can't believe Trump would think anyone like this is capable of fulfilling such a important role. But then we've heard nothing from the President Elect either. We can only hope that he IS negotiating privately with the Russian President in person, but is this really likely given the gravity of the situation?
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    Quote Posted by Miller (here)
    [From 17.50-18.58 in the above video, Judge Napolitano shows a clip from Sebastian Gorka, who's President Trump's Director for Counterrorism, and have to say I am completely shocked at the attitude of this man. I can't believe Trump would think anyone like this is capable of fulfilling such a important role. But then we've heard nothing from the President Elect either. We can only hope that he IS negotiating privately with the Russian President in person, but is this really likely given the gravity of the situation?
    Agreed. Here's the clip. It's hard to believe. You'd not even want this guy as a neighbour giving your kids a lift to school.

    https://x.com/jeremyscahill/status/1861168282784444804

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    https://x.com/MaxBlumenthal/status/1861254535492075837



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    Is Sebastian Gorka a British intelligence asset?

    Gorka's British intelligence ties once cost him a security clearance. His mentor is a UK spook now overseeing British covert operations against Russia.

    Is Trump's appointee operating on London time?


    https://thegrayzone.com/2024/11/25/s...ligence-asset/

    Sebastian Gorka: British intelligence asset?
    Kit Klarenberg and Max BlumenthalNovember 25, 2024

    Sebastian Gorka’s involvement with British intelligence cost him a security clearance in Hungary. His longtime mentor is a UK spook currently engaged in covert operations against Russia. Is the Ukraine hawk and Trump counter-terror appointee operating on London time?

    After years in the wilderness of right-wing radio, where he flamboyantly proclaimed his loyalty to president-elect Donald Trump for years, Sebastian Gorka has finally found his way back into Trump’s inner circle, earning an appointment as incoming White House counter-terror advisor.

    Gorka served as Trump’s deputy assistant advisor on national security issues for eight months in 2017, storming out of his job with a petulant resignation letter that blamed “forces” within the administration that did not support Trump’s “MAGA promise.” During his brief tenure in the White House, Gorka, a London-born immigrant, was credited with masterminding the President’s so-called “Muslim ban,” which refused admission to the US for citizens of countries identified as national security threats.

    While Democrats have hammered Gorka as “a far-right extremist” and MAGA sycophant, he has stood out as a voice of Biden foreign policy continuity within Trumpworld, pledging further aggression against Russia and even greater military aid to Kiev. During a November 23 interview, for example, Gorka promised that “the aid that we have given to Ukraine thus far will look like peanuts” if “the murderous KGB colonel” Vladimir Putin does not obey Trump’s dictates.

    Gorka’s full origin story explains why his views on the Ukraine proxy war track more closely with those of the anti-Trump turncoat John Bolton than incoming Vice President J.D. Vance, who has vowed to negotiate an end to the conflict. As this investigation will demonstrate, the mindset of the Transatlantic policy operative was molded primarily through his intimate involvement in British intelligence circles—not his role within the America First movement.

    The son of an anti-communist Hungarian exile, Gorka joined a British Army intelligence unit while still in university. When he entered the world of national security studies, he learned at the knee of a notoriously conniving British military intelligence officer named Chris Donnelly, who has dedicated his career to instigating conflict with Russia, and was exposed by The Grayzone as an architect of the notorious Kerch Bridge bombing.

    Donnelly personally endorsed Gorka’s PhD thesis, granting him the imprimatur of a top intelligence officer in the British Ministry of Defence. The relationship fueled Gorka’s career within the burgeoning Atlanticist military infrastructure, yet ultimately cost him security clearance in his family’s native Hungary, where the country’s National Security Office suspected him of being a UK spy.

    Soon after Gorka resigned from the first Trump administration, leaked documents exposed Donnelly as the founder of a secret, UK state-funded influence operation called the Integrity Initiative, which was aimed at drumming up war with Russia through a covert international propaganda network. A 2017 funding proposal submitted by the Integrity Initiative to the British Ministry of Defence promised to deliver a “tougher stance on Russia” by arranging for “more information published in the media on the threat of Russian active measures.”

    When Donnelly visited Washington in 2018 to expand his secret initiative, the first item on his agenda was breakfast with Gorka. To this day, Gorka refuses to discuss the meeting, or any aspect of his relationship with Donnelly, erupting with rage at reporters who have dared to inquire about the long friendship.

    Gorka’s security clearance rejected “due to his connections with British intelligence”
    Sebastian Gorka grew up in London in the shadow of his father, Paul, an exiled Hungarian nationalist activist affiliated with the Vitezi Rend, an anti-communist order that collaborated with Nazi Germany during World War II. Sebastian Gorka blames Kim Philby, the British double agent, for betraying his father to the Soviets, leading to his imprisonment – and seemingly exposing his father’s role as an MI6 asset. However, Paul Gorka provided a different account of his capture in an interview with the British historian and Holocaust revisionist David Irving, claiming Hungarian intelligence broke his cell after discovering papers on one of his cell’s couriers.

    After members of Vitezi Rend broke Paul Gorka out of prison during their failed 1956 attempt to topple the country’s communist leadership, he found refuge in the UK. From London, Paul Gorka worked for the British government, helping them vet anti-communist emigres arriving from Hungary. Young Gorka’s mother, Susan, found part-time work as a translator to Irving, the Holocaust revisionist historian. She was credited as an interpreter in his 740-page tome, “Uprising! One Nation’s Nightmare, 1956,” which portrayed the CIA and MI6-backed Hungarian rebellion of 1956 as a worker’s insurrection against a corrupt communist leadership, which happened to be disproportionately Jewish.

    With the collapse of the Soviet bloc, Sebastian Gorka set his sights on a career serving British national security interests. From 1990 to 1993, Gorka served in Unit 22 of the British military’s Territorial Army Intelligence Corps as an interrogator. The duties he carried out in the intelligence unit later became a source of intrigue, and remain mysterious to this day.

    In 1999, following a fellowship at NATO, Gorka returned to Hungary to advise the first government of Victor Orban, establishing himself as a prominent national security commentator in the country of his family’s origin. Three years later, when Hungary’s new Prime Minister Peter Medgyessy faced accusations that he had conducted counter-espionage operations for the country’s communist government 20 years prior, Gorka was selected to investigate the charges on a parliamentary committee. However, the country’s National Security Office rejected the security clearance he needed to join the committee because, as the Hungarian news outlet Origo reported, it “became risky from a national security point of view due to [Gorka’s] connections with British intelligence.”

    As the scandal swirled in Hungarian media, dramatically different accounts of Gorka’s involvement in British Army intelligence appeared in the media. The UK’s Sunday Times reported that Gorka’s duties in the unit included gathering “evidence for the war crimes tribunal set up after the collapse of Yugoslavia.” However, Gorka claimed to Hungarian media, “I never dealt with intelligence… we were tasked with guarding key facilities [in Northern Ireland], such as fending off IRA threats.”

    It was unclear how Gorka could have served in two regions at around the same time, or what his intelligence duties actually entailed. When contacted by American reporters about his service, the British Military of Defense declined to provide details.

    A year after being publicly accused of working for British intelligence, Gorka left Hungary for the US. “My American wife and I woke up one morning and realized America was the future,” he claimed.

    Donnelly praises Gorka’s “academic excellence”

    The scandal over Gorka’s security clearance received a smattering of coverage from liberal blogs when he was appointed to serve during the first Trump administration in 2017. But US media has not written a word about the much more consequential relationship he enjoyed with the British intelligence officer Chris Donnelly.

    Donnelly brought Gorka under his wing during the post-Cold War period, while he personally lobbied for NATO enlargement in former Soviet satellite states like Hungary. The officer’s 2005 work, “Nations, Alliances and Security,” was edited by Gorka, who also wrote its foreword.

    Two years later, Gorka published a PhD dissertation on “Content and End-State-based Alteration in the Practice of Political Violence since the End of the Cold War.” Donnelly, then-chief of the British Ministry of Defence intelligence unit known as the Advanced Research and Assessment Group, authored a glowing “external review” of Gorka’s doctorate, describing it as “a work not only of academic excellence, but also of significant current policy relevance.”

    In October 2008, Britain’s Ditchley Foundation, which holds regular conferences on the topic of British-American relations, convened an event in conjunction with the Foreign Office, on “the future of NATO, in Europe and globally.” Both Donnelly and Gorka appeared on the discussion panel, alongside spies, high-ranking military NATO officials, and lawmakers. The meeting was “deliberately timed to sit between the Bucharest summit of April 2008 and the 60th Anniversary Summit in April 2009.”

    The Bucharest summit was where NATO member states agreed Georgia and Ukraine “will become members of NATO.” Then-US Defense Secretary Robert Gates has since written with intense regret about the decision, which laid the foundations for Russia’s crushing of Tbilisi in a brief war five months later, as well as the current Ukraine proxy conflict.

    When Gorka and his mentor reunited in Washington almost a decade later, Donnelly was intent on working his connections to drive conflict with Russia.

    Below: Chris Donnelly’s passport, leaked in the Integrity Initiative files
    Donnelly meets secretly in DC with Gorka, pushing war with Russia

    During Trump’s first term, as the president battled a deluge of partisan propaganda painting him as a Putin puppet, and with American liberals transformed overnight into frothing Russophobes, British intelligence gleaned a perfect opportunity to escalate a simmering new Cold War.

    On September 18, 2018, Integrity Initiative chief Chris Donelly flew into Washington to expand his new covert influence network. The following morning, he headed straight to breakfast with his former understudy, Sebastian Gorka.

    Afterwards, Donnelly took a car to the Arlington, Virginia offices of CNA, the think tank adjunct of the US Center for Naval Analyses and key Integrity Initiative “partner” in DC, to deliver a lengthy presentation on “mapping Russian influence activities.”

    Leaked files of Donnelly’s Initiative listed Gorka’s wife, Katharine, as a key contact. At the time, she was a senior advisor at the Department of Homeland Security. (Today, she is the chair of the GOP in Northern Virginia’s Fairfax County, a hub for private military and intelligence contractors).

    The same file described how the organization’s clusters “engage only very discreetly with governments, based entirely on trusted personal contacts…and try to influence them gently.”

    On that basis, both Gorkas clearly fit the bill for Integrity Initiative cluster members, even though the covert operation played an apparent role in several propaganda operations aimed at destroying Trump and subverting his agenda.

    For instance, Integrity Initiative operatives were instrumental in circulating disgraced MI6 officer Christopher Steele’s bogus “Trump-Russia” dossier at the highest levels of the US government, and in turn, disseminating it throughout Western media. That connivance was clearly aimed at delegitimizing Trump while boxing his administration into a belligerent stance on Russia.

    In Britain, Integrity Initiative operatives fraudulently linked the Brexit referendum’s result to Russian meddling. In Spain, meanwhile, the Initiative spread disinformation falsely portrayjng the Catalan independence movement as a Russian-controlled operation, delivering a body blow to cordial relations between Madrid and Russia.

    In March 2021, when grilled by The American Conservative about his secret meeting in DC with Donnelly, Gorka exploded, telling the outlet’s reporter to “go to hell,” and asking “who the hell” they were to ask him about “private conversations…with a friend.” Gorka refused to discuss his bond with Donnelly any further.

    He similarly ignored questions sent by The Grayzone through direct message to his personal Twitter/X account.

    Today, Donnelly helps oversee Britain’s clandestine role in the Ukraine proxy war. As The Grayzone revealed, Donnelly oversaw the blueprints for the Ukrainian terror attack which damaged the Russian-built Kerch Bridge in October 2022. By design, the bombing was a pivotal step up the escalation ladder.

    Now, as Trump sets out to fulfill his promise to end the conflict in Ukraine, Donnelly enjoys a direct line to one of the president’s top national security aides, who happens to be his longtime understudy.
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    Quote Posted by Bill Ryan (here)
    Quote Posted by Miller (here)
    [From 17.50-18.58 in the above video, Judge Napolitano shows a clip from Sebastian Gorka, who's President Trump's Director for Counterrorism, and have to say I am completely shocked at the attitude of this man. I can't believe Trump would think anyone like this is capable of fulfilling such a important role. But then we've heard nothing from the President Elect either. We can only hope that he IS negotiating privately with the Russian President in person, but is this really likely given the gravity of the situation?
    Agreed. Here's the clip. It's hard to believe. You'd not even want this guy as a neighbour giving your kids a lift to school.

    https://x.com/jeremyscahill/status/1861168282784444804
    I can't take this comment seriously on face value.

    It seems out of character for President Trump whom is know for his love of negotiating and loves it so much he wrote and published his book on the " The Art of the Deal ", who knows why this comment was made but it seems to me like it was designed to either create leverage with President Putin or " throw a spanner in the works " and confuse his enemies the military industrial complex and deep state and buy time until inauguration on the 20/1/25.

    Take a deep breath and relax everyone, and I agree with Bill there will be no nuclear war.

    Update:
    I just had a good look at Ravenlockes post just before mine in that context it makes more sense now.

    President Trump in his 45th presidency had a habit of appointing deep state actors to highlight whom they really are and yet again he might have done that with SG, so I can't take SG comment seriously at all now.

    I don't think this former British Intelligence asset SG will last long in this role he'll go the way of that MOSSAD agent Alex Jones. Once a spy always a spy isn't it.
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    Quote Posted by Bill Ryan (here)
    Quote Posted by Miller (here)
    [From 17.50-18.58 in the above video, Judge Napolitano shows a clip from Sebastian Gorka, who's President Trump's Director for Counterrorism, and have to say I am completely shocked at the attitude of this man. I can't believe Trump would think anyone like this is capable of fulfilling such a important role. But then we've heard nothing from the President Elect either. We can only hope that he IS negotiating privately with the Russian President in person, but is this really likely given the gravity of the situation?
    Agreed. Here's the clip. It's hard to believe. You'd not even want this guy as a neighbour giving your kids a lift to school.

    https://x.com/jeremyscahill/status/1861168282784444804
    WTH is going on???? This doesn't appear to be a 4D chess move by Trump, but downright sabotage. It's the opposite of everything Trump and his tight inner circle has said about this war.

    Gorka's mindset must know how ridiculous of a thing this was to say, but he says it anyways?????? Something really weird is going on for such blatant and "in your face" sabotage.

    This is similar to Trump stepping aside and putting Fauchi front and center.

    I a bit dumbfounded by this............
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    With respect to the British American being discussed, what is a counsellor?

    It's not a cabinet position like Sec. of State Rubio or:


    Director of national intelligence: Tulsi Gabbard

    Centers for Medicare and Medicaid Services administrator: Dr. Mehmet Oz

    Secretary of homeland security: Kristi Noem


    No Sebatian in that list of thirty or more current nominees.

    Most of the appointees are under bomb threats:


    Former New York Rep. Lee Zeldin also disclosed he and his family got a pipe bomb threat at their home “with a pro-Palestinian themed message.”


    Even Matt Gaetz, who withdrew from consideration. Oh boy! The FBI is gonna be really busy. They can't let the single tiniest one of those go by without a full investigation.

    I don't recall the majority of an incoming cabinet to be treated in this manner.

    Tonight's speaker, "this section of pipe with an ear".

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    Anything to do with British intelligence is immediately Russophobic to the absolute max, the British covert establishment absolutely hates Russia, this has complex historical pedigrees, but going back to the Russian Revolution of 1917 - the internal politics saw the Czar and his family being murdered and as we know the Russian royal family was closely related to the British/German royal lines, cousins in fact. So we have this historical hatred that has been fermenting for decades. But of course the American/British/EU hatred of Russia stems from Russia being immensely wealthy, aspirational and capable - in terms of natural resources Russia is among the most well endowed nations for Oil/Gas/Uranium/Gold/Rare Earth minerals...and of course People!
    We have the rarest of opportunities to forge a warm, friendly cooperative relationship with this incredible nation, and it is ready, willing and able to be friendly: these ancient blood feud's and hatreds simply won't allow for movement forward, I find this incredibly sad and tragic, the West's own stubborn refusal to accept Russia could well mean its demise.

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    Quote Posted by Mike Gorman (here)
    Anything to do with British intelligence is immediately Russophobic to the absolute max, the British covert establishment absolutely hates Russia, this has complex historical pedigrees, but going back to the Russian Revolution of 1917 - the internal politics saw the Czar and his family being murdered and as we know the Russian royal family was closely related to the British/German royal lines, cousins in fact. So we have this historical hatred that has been fermenting for decades. But of course the American/British/EU hatred of Russia stems from Russia being immensely wealthy, aspirational and capable - in terms of natural resources Russia is among the most well endowed nations for Oil/Gas/Uranium/Gold/Rare Earth minerals...and of course People!
    We have the rarest of opportunities to forge a warm, friendly cooperative relationship with this incredible nation, and it is ready, willing and able to be friendly: these ancient blood feud's and hatreds simply won't allow for movement forward, I find this incredibly sad and tragic, the West's own stubborn refusal to accept Russia could well mean its demise.
    @Mike - You may be interested by scanning some of these essays by Terry Boardman, which provide evidence that the Anglo leadership class's strategic antagonism to Russia goes back at least as far as the last decades of the 19th century.

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    Sebastian Gorka

    For everybody stunning about this man parlance (just one new stooge from future Trump Admin) take your time to watch this video from 20:56 Mark. when Napolitano ask next question..until end !

    That is WHY I posted that video specially for Amerikans... wormongers replace with other wormongers...

    https://projectavalon.net/forum4/sho...=1#post1643916

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    Quote Posted by SilentFeathers (here)
    Quote Posted by Bill Ryan (here)
    Quote Posted by Miller (here)
    [From 17.50-18.58 in the above video, Judge Napolitano shows a clip from Sebastian Gorka, who's President Trump's Director for Counterrorism, and have to say I am completely shocked at the attitude of this man. I can't believe Trump would think anyone like this is capable of fulfilling such a important role. But then we've heard nothing from the President Elect either. We can only hope that he IS negotiating privately with the Russian President in person, but is this really likely given the gravity of the situation?
    Agreed. Here's the clip. It's hard to believe. You'd not even want this guy as a neighbour giving your kids a lift to school.

    https://x.com/jeremyscahill/status/1861168282784444804
    WTH is going on???? This doesn't appear to be a 4D chess move by Trump, but downright sabotage. It's the opposite of everything Trump and his tight inner circle has said about this war.

    Gorka's mindset must know how ridiculous of a thing this was to say, but he says it anyways?????? Something really weird is going on for such blatant and "in your face" sabotage.

    This is similar to Trump stepping aside and putting Fauchi front and center.

    I a bit dumbfounded by this............
    Let's hope Putin won't fall for that. The war is almost over. The Ukronazi losses are beyond anything imaginable.

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    Quote Posted by sparkyyy (here)
    Quote Posted by SilentFeathers (here)
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    Quote Posted by Miller (here)
    [From 17.50-18.58 in the above video, Judge Napolitano shows a clip from Sebastian Gorka, who's President Trump's Director for Counterrorism, and have to say I am completely shocked at the attitude of this man. I can't believe Trump would think anyone like this is capable of fulfilling such a important role. But then we've heard nothing from the President Elect either. We can only hope that he IS negotiating privately with the Russian President in person, but is this really likely given the gravity of the situation?
    Agreed. Here's the clip. It's hard to believe. You'd not even want this guy as a neighbour giving your kids a lift to school.

    https://x.com/jeremyscahill/status/1861168282784444804
    WTH is going on???? This doesn't appear to be a 4D chess move by Trump, but downright sabotage. It's the opposite of everything Trump and his tight inner circle has said about this war.

    Gorka's mindset must know how ridiculous of a thing this was to say, but he says it anyways?????? Something really weird is going on for such blatant and "in your face" sabotage.

    This is similar to Trump stepping aside and putting Fauchi front and center.

    I a bit dumbfounded by this............
    Let's hope Putin won't fall for that. The war is almost over. The Ukronazi losses are beyond anything imaginable.
    ~~~

    No, Putin is much smarter than that. Though it may make him a little less likely to greet Trump with a big hug if they ever meet.

    (A very warm welcome to the form, by the way!)

    However, Trump has now stated this. It seems to indicate (a) that Gorka's strange and ultra-hostile remarks were 100% unapproved (Trump would be strongly advised to fire him immediately, the only 'message' that Putin would appreciate), and (b), following from that, that Trump is not yet in full control of his team at all.

    https://twitter.com/i/status/1861874649342132450

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    • Russia retaliates: Massive Missile+Drone attack (190). To the Last Ukrainian. Lower mobilization age:

    • Ukraine's air defence shot down 79 missiles and 35 drones out of 188 Russian air targets
    • Russia targets western Ukraine's energy grid
    • All drones, missiles targeting Kyiv destroyed
    • Putin says massive bombardment of Ukraine is a response to attacks on Russia combined strike using 90 missiles and 100 drones.
    • Ukraine to lower the mobilisation age-when this happens.
    • Putin Threatens to use Nuclear Power strikes on Kiev Command Centers using Oreshnik ICBM:

    • Oreshnik missiles could be used to strike Kiev – Putin
    • Putin threatens to strike "decision-making centres in Kyiv" with new Oreshnik ballistic missile
    • US believes Russian nuclear strike ‘unlikely’
    • Nuclear attack unlikely despite Putin's warnings, US intelligence says
    • Oreshnik is not a weapon of mass destruction,
    • The power of that strike would be comparable to the use of nuclear weapons
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    Gorka is doing what he is supposed to do. His job requires him, among other things, to sense and seek out lurking or approaching danger and bark at it to keep that perceived or real danger at bay. The barking is heard by all, friend and foe alike. He has no power or opportunity to bite. Trump has him in a leash.

    We are, the world is, at war. There is a psychology to all things. War and the “art” thereof has its own psychology. Whether we understand it or not.

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