Shane/The Ruiner's new interview with Thomas Williams, 15 Sept 2015

[Daozen]

They could be erudite at times and bigots too, many amusing similarities, overall though they were caring, this one wouldn't be called a parent in my book, a grammatically challenged cyborg-human-pet keeping selfish-time-lord, would be my long winded title for her. She's all me me me.

This is it. I think the 'requested letter' is for real. It's so out of touch, you couldn't make it up. Very different from Shane's writing style. It's like the European aristocratic attitude times 100. I don't think he cares who believes or doesn't. He is probably saturated on emails already, so I doubt he'll make the effort to 'defend' himself.

[Maria Stade]

Ill just say !

[awakeningmom]

Posted by Daozen (here)

They could be erudite at times and bigots too, many amusing similarities, overall though they were caring, this one wouldn't be called a parent in my book, a grammatically challenged cyborg-human-pet keeping selfish-time-lord, would be my long winded title for her. She's all me me me.

This is it. I think the 'requested letter' is for real. It's so out of touch, you couldn't make it up. Very different from Shane's writing style. It's like the European aristocratic attitude times 100. I don't think he cares who believes or doesn't. He is probably saturated on emails already, so I doubt he'll make the effort to 'defend' himself.

For someone "out of touch" she certainly knows a lot about people sitting around on their computers and attending (alternative) conferences....(???) The writing style is exactly the same. Truly it is. Of course the message and content are different, since Shane is writing his posts from a place of disclosure and of helping humanity while "Cassandra" is supposedly the personification of the Dark Side. Interesting, though, that in Greek Mythology Cassandra was the Trojan daughter of King Priam -- condemned to always speaking the truth in her prophecy -- but having no-one believe her!

I don't need Shane to defend himself. I'm really enjoying his blog -- still reading -- but I just don't believe this letter is for real. NO reason for a Ruler of the World to communicate to a few thousand people reading an obscure blog -- people whose life spans don't even amount to a day in her life. The European aristocratic "attitude" might be correct -- but the communication of it is not, IMO. An exercise, a motivational tool, a call to arms....maybe.

[Daozen]

Posted by awakeningmom (here)

Posted by Daozen (here)

They could be erudite at times and bigots too, many amusing similarities, overall though they were caring, this one wouldn't be called a parent in my book, a grammatically challenged cyborg-human-pet keeping selfish-time-lord, would be my long winded title for her. She's all me me me.

This is it. I think the 'requested letter' is for real. It's so out of touch, you couldn't make it up. Very different from Shane's writing style. It's like the European aristocratic attitude times 100. I don't think he cares who believes or doesn't. He is probably saturated on emails already, so I doubt he'll make the effort to 'defend' himself.

For someone "out of touch" she certainly knows a lot about people sitting around on their computers and attending (alternative) conferences....(???) The writing style is exactly the same. Truly it is. Of course the message and content are different, since Shane is writing his posts from a place of disclosure and of helping humanity while "Cassandra" is supposedly the personification of the Dark Side. Interesting, though, that in Greek Mythology Cassandra was the Trojan daughter of King Priam -- condemned to always speaking the truth in her prophecy -- but having no-one believe her!

I don't need Shane to defend himself. I'm really enjoying his blog -- still reading -- but I just don't believe this letter is for real. NO reason for a Ruler of the World to communicate to a few thousand people reading an obscure blog -- people whose life spans don't even amount to a day in her life. The European aristocratic "attitude" might be correct -- but the communication of it is not, IMO. An exercise, a motivational tool, a call to arms....maybe.

Exactly. Shane has been clear that his blog is an exercise in creative fiction anyway. Like a collaborative hologram.

Interesting, though, that in Greek Mythology Cassandra was the Trojan daughter of King Priam -- condemned to always speaking the truth in her prophecy -- but having no-one believe her!

Maybe that is actually her.

NO reason for a Ruler of the World to communicate to a few thousand people reading an obscure blog

They have to reveal their intent. It's the law.

[awakeningmom]

Posted by Daozen (here)

Posted by awakeningmom (here)

Posted by Daozen (here)

They could be erudite at times and bigots too, many amusing similarities, overall though they were caring, this one wouldn't be called a parent in my book, a grammatically challenged cyborg-human-pet keeping selfish-time-lord, would be my long winded title for her. She's all me me me.

This is it. I think the 'requested letter' is for real. It's so out of touch, you couldn't make it up. Very different from Shane's writing style. It's like the European aristocratic attitude times 100. I don't think he cares who believes or doesn't. He is probably saturated on emails already, so I doubt he'll make the effort to 'defend' himself.

For someone "out of touch" she certainly knows a lot about people sitting around on their computers and attending (alternative) conferences....(???) The writing style is exactly the same. Truly it is. Of course the message and content are different, since Shane is writing his posts from a place of disclosure and of helping humanity while "Cassandra" is supposedly the personification of the Dark Side. Interesting, though, that in Greek Mythology Cassandra was the Trojan daughter of King Priam -- condemned to always speaking the truth in her prophecy -- but having no-one believe her!

I don't need Shane to defend himself. I'm really enjoying his blog -- still reading -- but I just don't believe this letter is for real. NO reason for a Ruler of the World to communicate to a few thousand people reading an obscure blog -- people whose life spans don't even amount to a day in her life. The European aristocratic "attitude" might be correct -- but the communication of it is not, IMO. An exercise, a motivational tool, a call to arms....maybe.

Exactly. Shane has been clear that his blog is an exercise in creative fiction anyway. Like a collaborative hologram.

Interesting, though, that in Greek Mythology Cassandra was the Trojan daughter of King Priam -- condemned to always speaking the truth in her prophecy -- but having no-one believe her!

Maybe that is actually her.

NO reason for a Ruler of the World to communicate to a few thousand people reading an obscure blog

They have to reveal their intent. It's the law.

I keep reading that this is the "law" but where is this law written, and why would they comply with this particular must-disclose-somewhere law, but not the law of non-violation of free will?

And as to the pat answer to the free-will violation question I've read bandied about here and there, I really object to the notion that "We" collectively consented at some point to this oppressive, murderous regime/matrix, particularly when consent (according to the Ruiner's blog) seems to have been given thousands of years ago by our ancestors, not those of us on the planet today.

First, I'm not sure why we would have to pay for the "sins of our fathers," so to speak. Shouldn't the individual have his/her own right to consent/not consent? Second, if WE are actually our own ancestors but can't remember due to the reincarnation trap/mind-wipe cycle, it seems that free will/consent are both illusory and we are stuck in this hellish cycle with no end. Consent, if it is to mean anything at all, must be Informed Consent.

Informed Consent, according to the modern understanding of it (at least in the health care and Nuremberg trial arenas), requires five elements before it can be said to have been given. It requires: (1) full disclosure (i.e., disclosure of all risks and benefits of the proposed course of action); (2) voluntarism (the chooser must be free from all coercion or unfair persuasions); (3) capacity (the chooser must be able to make decisions and not be incapacitated due to age, infirmity, or other mental incapacity (perhaps mind control/entrainment would be considered here too); (4) understanding (the chooser must comprehend all available choices); and (5) decision (the chooser must have the ultimate authority himself/herself to make or reject the choice proposed.

Seems to me that none of these five requirements for consent have been met. So why not just admit that this is a false "LAW" that has never been followed -- and that if that law is violated continuously, then why would the law of disclosure ever need to be followed?

In my opinion, organized crime has been making its own laws -- and no one seems to be policing it for violations of some supposed Universal ones.

[Daozen]

Hey awakeningmom. You may have some good points, but I hate to see good thinking get swallowed up in an ascii block, when people don't use paragraphs. It's a common issue on Avalon. Most of us have ADHD, and zone out quickly at wall of types. I am not having a go, just mentioning something that might help.

EDIT: You edited it. Nice.

Peace...

[Elainie]

Posted by awakeningmom (here)

Posted by Daozen (here)

Posted by awakeningmom (here)

Posted by Daozen (here)

They could be erudite at times and bigots too, many amusing similarities, overall though they were caring, this one wouldn't be called a parent in my book, a grammatically challenged cyborg-human-pet keeping selfish-time-lord, would be my long winded title for her. She's all me me me.

This is it. I think the 'requested letter' is for real. It's so out of touch, you couldn't make it up. Very different from Shane's writing style. It's like the European aristocratic attitude times 100. I don't think he cares who believes or doesn't. He is probably saturated on emails already, so I doubt he'll make the effort to 'defend' himself.

For someone "out of touch" she certainly knows a lot about people sitting around on their computers and attending (alternative) conferences....(???) The writing style is exactly the same. Truly it is. Of course the message and content are different, since Shane is writing his posts from a place of disclosure and of helping humanity while "Cassandra" is supposedly the personification of the Dark Side. Interesting, though, that in Greek Mythology Cassandra was the Trojan daughter of King Priam -- condemned to always speaking the truth in her prophecy -- but having no-one believe her!

I don't need Shane to defend himself. I'm really enjoying his blog -- still reading -- but I just don't believe this letter is for real. NO reason for a Ruler of the World to communicate to a few thousand people reading an obscure blog -- people whose life spans don't even amount to a day in her life. The European aristocratic "attitude" might be correct -- but the communication of it is not, IMO. An exercise, a motivational tool, a call to arms....maybe.

Exactly. Shane has been clear that his blog is an exercise in creative fiction anyway. Like a collaborative hologram.

Interesting, though, that in Greek Mythology Cassandra was the Trojan daughter of King Priam -- condemned to always speaking the truth in her prophecy -- but having no-one believe her!

Maybe that is actually her.

NO reason for a Ruler of the World to communicate to a few thousand people reading an obscure blog

They have to reveal their intent. It's the law.

I keep reading that this is the "law" but where is this law written, and why would they comply with this particular must-disclose-somewhere law, but not the law of non-violation of free will?

And as to the pat answer to the free-will violation question I've read bandied about here and there, I really object to the notion that "We" collectively consented at some point to this oppressive, murderous regime/matrix, particularly when consent (according to the Ruiner's blog) seems to have been given thousands of years ago by our ancestors, not those of us on the planet today. First, I'm not sure why we would have to pay for the "sins of our fathers," so to speak. Shouldn't the individual have his/her own right to consent/not consent? Second, if WE are actually our own ancestors but can't remember due to the reincarnation trap/mind-wipe cycle, it seems that free will/consent are both illusory and we are stuck in this hellish cycle with no end. Consent, if it is to mean anything at all, must be Informed Consent. Informed Consent, according to the modern understanding of it (at least in the health care and Nuremberg trial arenas), requires five elements before it can be said to have been given. It requires: (1) full disclosure (i.e., disclosure of all risks and benefits of the proposed course of action); (2) voluntarism (the chooser must be free from all coercion or unfair persuasions); (3) capacity (the chooser must be able to make decisions and not be incapacitated due to age, infirmity, or other mental incapacity (perhaps mind control/entrainment would be considered here too); (4) understanding (the chooser must comprehend all available choices); and (5) decision (the chooser must have the ultimate authority himself/herself to make or reject the choice proposed. Seems to me that none of these five requirements for consent have been met. So why not just admit that this is a false "LAW" that has never been followed -- and that if that law is violated continuously, then why would the law of disclosure ever need to be followed?

In my opinion, organized crime has been making its own laws -- and no one seems to be policing it for violations of some supposed Universal ones.

I strongly believe they (who are the elite of this planet) do not care. This so called law is just that IMO, so called. I see no evidence to this purported claim of some "law".

[RunningDeer]

Posted by Maria Stade (here)
I'll just say !

Picture doesn't show, Maria. Taking a wild guess from your album...it's this one.

RunningDeer

[Maria Stade]

Posted by RunningDeer (here)

Posted by Maria Stade (here)
I'll just say !

Picture doesn't show, Maria. Taking a wild guess from your album...it's this one.

RunningDeer

Thats the one ! Thank you ! And enjoy !

[Daozen]

Posted by awakeningmom (here)

Posted by Daozen (here)

Posted by awakeningmom (here)

Posted by Daozen (here)

They could be erudite at times and bigots too, many amusing similarities, overall though they were caring, this one wouldn't be called a parent in my book, a grammatically challenged cyborg-human-pet keeping selfish-time-lord, would be my long winded title for her. She's all me me me.

This is it. I think the 'requested letter' is for real. It's so out of touch, you couldn't make it up. Very different from Shane's writing style. It's like the European aristocratic attitude times 100. I don't think he cares who believes or doesn't. He is probably saturated on emails already, so I doubt he'll make the effort to 'defend' himself.

For someone "out of touch" she certainly knows a lot about people sitting around on their computers and attending (alternative) conferences....(???) The writing style is exactly the same. Truly it is. Of course the message and content are different, since Shane is writing his posts from a place of disclosure and of helping humanity while "Cassandra" is supposedly the personification of the Dark Side. Interesting, though, that in Greek Mythology Cassandra was the Trojan daughter of King Priam -- condemned to always speaking the truth in her prophecy -- but having no-one believe her!

I don't need Shane to defend himself. I'm really enjoying his blog -- still reading -- but I just don't believe this letter is for real. NO reason for a Ruler of the World to communicate to a few thousand people reading an obscure blog -- people whose life spans don't even amount to a day in her life. The European aristocratic "attitude" might be correct -- but the communication of it is not, IMO. An exercise, a motivational tool, a call to arms....maybe.

Exactly. Shane has been clear that his blog is an exercise in creative fiction anyway. Like a collaborative hologram.

Interesting, though, that in Greek Mythology Cassandra was the Trojan daughter of King Priam -- condemned to always speaking the truth in her prophecy -- but having no-one believe her!

Maybe that is actually her.

NO reason for a Ruler of the World to communicate to a few thousand people reading an obscure blog

They have to reveal their intent. It's the law.

I keep reading that this is the "law" but where is this law written, and why would they comply with this particular must-disclose-somewhere law, but not the law of non-violation of free will?

And as to the pat answer to the free-will violation question I've read bandied about here and there, I really object to the notion that "We" collectively consented at some point to this oppressive, murderous regime/matrix, particularly when consent (according to the Ruiner's blog) seems to have been given thousands of years ago by our ancestors, not those of us on the planet today.

First, I'm not sure why we would have to pay for the "sins of our fathers," so to speak. Shouldn't the individual have his/her own right to consent/not consent? Second, if WE are actually our own ancestors but can't remember due to the reincarnation trap/mind-wipe cycle, it seems that free will/consent are both illusory and we are stuck in this hellish cycle with no end. Consent, if it is to mean anything at all, must be Informed Consent.

Informed Consent, according to the modern understanding of it (at least in the health care and Nuremberg trial arenas), requires five elements before it can be said to have been given. It requires: (1) full disclosure (i.e., disclosure of all risks and benefits of the proposed course of action); (2) voluntarism (the chooser must be free from all coercion or unfair persuasions); (3) capacity (the chooser must be able to make decisions and not be incapacitated due to age, infirmity, or other mental incapacity (perhaps mind control/entrainment would be considered here too); (4) understanding (the chooser must comprehend all available choices); and (5) decision (the chooser must have the ultimate authority himself/herself to make or reject the choice proposed.

Seems to me that none of these five requirements for consent have been met. So why not just admit that this is a false "LAW" that has never been followed -- and that if that law is violated continuously, then why would the law of disclosure ever need to be followed?

In my opinion, organized crime has been making its own laws -- and no one seems to be policing it for violations of some supposed Universal ones.

You are right that it is not fair Awakeningmom, and liberties are being taken. I still think telling us (even once) on an obscure blog constitutes informing us, and thus consent if we don't act.

"I don't like it any more than you do."

Regardless of the finer points of galactic law, it looks like we are going to have to claw back (or walk into) our freedom step by step. Non consent, revocation of subliminal contracts, walking away from corporations... All we can do is push towards critical mass on all fronts, ceaselessly.

It is coming. Many of us can feel it.

Light is invading this realm. Not just from the centre of the galaxy. It's from the mysterious core of the Earth itself, and the heart of humanity, which is somewhere in the depths of the chakras.

Source: https://youtube.com/watch?v=O1fHxPY3TJo

[Innocent Warrior]

Source: https://youtube.com/watch?v=XgZhoLqixsQ

[Bill Ryan]

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There's a full transcript of the earlier show with Thomas Williams and Drake (28 June, 2015), here, in which some of this material was discussed:

http://mediafire.com/download/3u4lsb...r+Humanity.pdf

I've also uploaded it to the Avalon server (same file, different filename):

http://projectavalon.net/Thomas_Will...r_Humanity.pdf

The audio is here:

http://mediafire.com/download/s1a0i6...ANITY+SHOW.mp3

[awakeningmom]

Daozen,
I just don't see how disclosing plans to perhaps a few thousand alternative thinkers on an obscure blog constitutes "disclosure" to the collective? 7 billion people are considered informed by way of a blog they have likely never heard of? Again, if consent and disclosure are considered done by technicalities and tricks, both are illusory.

I do hope you are correct that "light" is invading this realm. Some days I do feel like there is something positive afoot -- the energy feels "good" -- but then I look at the mainstream news or even the alternative news that tells me about the ongoing illegal wars done by executive orders in the middle east and the various legal defeats for the opponents of vaccines and GMO's, etc -- and I see that the Dark Side is proceeding without apparent concern. Are these desperate, last ditch efforts for control? Or are we in denial/fooling ourselves? Not sure yet.

I do like the Ruiner's blog. I think he has a positive message and a positive outlook -- very impressive considering the dark things he has supposedly witnessed throughout his life. I just hope it's not more hopium (although hopium still feels good). When I start to see with my own eyes REALLY positive things happening in the world (e.g., the arrest of the PNAC 9-11 perpetrators, military personnel refusing to fight en mass, complete exposure and removal of the high-level pedophile rings, an end to forced vaccination, Hilary Clinton and Jeb Bush both stepping out of the race, etc.) then I'll know something truly remarkable is happening.

[gripreaper]

I'm going to write something about this in more detail one day. Here is my take after back engineering history as far back as possible with the available resources, using triangulated presumptions the further back we go, where the available historic references are fewer and hard to come by. But let's just say:

There was an off planet intrusion into the evolution of the indigenous beings on planet earth, many thousands of years ago. These beings brought technologies we did not have at the time. They mated with the indigenous peoples and developed a hybrid race. So while they mated with the indigenous peoples, they also furthered a leap in our evolution.

Whether we consented to this or not, we participated. What we have now is a hybrid race where all of us carry the DNA of these interlopers, as well as having benefited from the additional technologies which they brought.

They claimed a divine right to rule over us. Their divine right as parents is because we came forth from the mating of the indigenous with these interlopers, and we have benefited from this incestuous relationship and the technologies, and we have not rebutted it. We have acquiesced to it through supporting this system, so in essence, we are in agreement with it.

Now, you might still say we did not receive full disclosure, so therefore the agreement is null and void? Well, it becomes null and void when you rebut it energetically and quit supporting it, quit drawing the benefits and privileges from this incestuous relationship, and stand sovereign, self responsible and self actualized. You do this with every thought and every action every day.

If these controllers offer up some law of their own making, where they tell us what they are going to do and we just continue on with the status quo, asleep and lethargic, acting as ignorant piglets, then why would anyone expect them to relinquish their status as owners of planet earth?

Now, these interlopers would have liked to maintain their pure bloodline, and have continued to try and restore this bloodline for thousands of years. Their agendas include some form of further hybridization of this planet and the further altering of the hybrid DNA. Some might speculate they want to repopulate this planet with a whole new species, while others speculate that they have restored their bloodlines and their technology and no longer need or want this planet, and are therefore leaving.

Regardless, along every point in history, although there was much resistance to the control grid, these gods who laid claim to this planet, have persevered and maintained their agenda multi generationally, and those who have resisted have failed to get their own fellow empathic human brothers and sisters to join in and generate enough inertia to change the trajectory of earths future.

These interlopers know how to use symbolism, ritual, blood sacrifice, microwave entrainment, fiat debt commerce, media, and entertainment to keep us subservient and to distract us from our own true power with our connection to source. They use this power in a satanic way, the same power we have, with much success.

We indigenous empathic souls barely recognize that this power exists. We can't fathom the degree of evil that is used by these bloodlines, to manipulate the energetic matrix for their own personal aggrandizement, and to use earth as a loosh farm where they vampire all energy and resources for themselves.

How many avatars do you know who have the energetic presence to even use the minor Siddhis of claireaudience, clairesentience, and clairevoyance? How many avatars do you know who have the powers of the higher Siddhis, of bi-location, remote viewing, and teleportation?

How many of us consciously enter the delta brain wave state while in an awake meditative consciousness, and not just while sleeping? How many of us have reached the state of Samadhi and are no longer stuck in Samsara? Do we even realize the power of a single pure intention of the heart, a willingness to be harmless and empathic to all living beings?

How we shift the energetics and come into our own power, is to rebuke and rebut the energetic trusts put in place by these bloodlines, imbed a new intention with pure heart, the highest and best outcome for all sentient souls on planet earth, and then stop feeding the beast your energy and supporting the slavery control grid.

If they want to mock us and laugh at us, they certainly will and do, and we have shown ourselves to be weak, manipulated slaves when we act as indigent children. Go to the mirror. If we want to change it, then we start with ourselves and our very next thought. Take pause, and muster up some pure energy and filter it through the heart chakra. Then send out that pure intention. That's the path, the opening ante for the game.

[awakeningmom]

Posted by gripreaper (here)
Regardless, along every point in history, although there was much resistance to the control grid, these gods who laid claim to this planet, have persevered and maintained their agenda multi generationally, and those who have resisted have failed to get their own fellow empathic human brothers and sisters to join in and generate enough inertia to change the trajectory of earths future.

These interlopers know how to use symbolism, ritual, blood sacrifice, microwave entrainment, fiat debt commerce, media, and entertainment to keep us subservient and to distract us from our own true power with our connection to source. They use this power in a satanic way, the same power we have, with much success.

We indigenous empathic souls barely recognize that this power exists. We can't fathom the degree of evil that is used by these bloodlines, to manipulate the energetic matrix for their own personal aggrandizement, and to use earth as a loosh farm where they vampire all energy and resources for themselves.

How many avatars do you know who have the energetic presence to even use the minor Siddhis of claireaudience, clairesentience, and clairevoyance? How many avatars do you know who have the powers of the higher Siddhis, of bi-location, remote viewing, and teleportation?

How many of us consciously enter the delta brain wave state while in an aware meditative consciousness, and not just while sleeping? How many of us have reached the state of Samadhi and are no longer stuck in Samsara? Do we even realize the power of a single pure intention of the heart, a willingness to be harmless and empathic to all living beings?

How we shift the energetics and come into our own power, is to rebuke and rebut the energetic trusts put in place by these bloodlines, imbed a new intention with pure heart, the highest and best outcome for all sentient souls on planet earth, and then stop feeding the beast your energy and supporting the slavery control grid.

If they want to mock us and laugh at us, they certainly will and do, and we have shown ourselves to be weak, manipulated slaves when we act as indigent children. Go to the mirror. If we want to change it, then we start with ourselves and our very next thought. Take pause, and muster up some pure energy and filter it through the heart chakra. Then send out that pure intention. That's the path, the opening ante for the game.

This is why I tend to feel really discouraged. As you say, Grip, throughout history, there has always been a small number of people resisting the agenda. But this small group has continuously failed to get their fellow empathic brothers and sisters to join in. This is STILL happening today, and I just don't see the size of this continuing resistance movement growing quickly enough to form a critical mass or a 100th monkey type-situation before it's too late. I hate to be such a downer. I wish I felt otherwise. But personally, I've tried to talk to friends and family about various so-called conspiracies, I have also published articles and supported various activist efforts to fight various wrongs. But in this external effort at resistance -- or attempt to get fellow empathic humans to wake up -- I've lost friends, and many within my own family refuse to talk to me about these "crazy notions." They tell me I have "too much time on my hands." I know this is not atypical for many of us.

So when most external efforts to rally others fail, I think many finally realize that the only thing left to do is to Look/Go within. Yet, going within -- and figuring out how to realize our own power(s) -- is slow going too (at least for me).

What I mean is, many people seem to be able to meditate and/or achieve some level of psychic/psi powers easily/naturally. Maybe these skills have always been apparent to them. But for many others, myself included, there seems to be a block. Too much fluoride? Too much time in the control matrix? Too happy in my own personal enslavement situation? Maybe.

I've tried (and still try) meditation, yoga, tarot, astrology, and I've learned a number of exercises to move my energy/chakras. I have even tried some entheogens (sp?). But so far, the most I seem to be able to do is to predict with some accuracy who will call me that day -- or who it is calling me when the phone rings across the room. A start, but pretty slow-going. My spontaneous OBE's ended when I was about 7. I can't seem to figure out how to get them going again.

My point is this: I know these psi skills are latent in all human beings. I also know how important they are for all of us to (re) learn them. But I'm already down the rabbit hole and I am still having problems connecting to my "Siddhi" skills (never heard that word so I hope I am using it correctly here). So how can I expect others who haven't even accepted that there's a shadow government/control matrix in place to start developing these abilities that are so critical to our liberation?

I know the answer is to stop worrying about what others are doing (or not doing) and to "look in the mirror" and work on myself. But it's hard not to worry about what others are or are not doing when it is apparent that a small group of people throughout history alone has never managed to stop what's happening. Like it or not, it seems that the intentions/actions/Will of the majority -- of the collective -- matter a great deal.

I'm not disagreeing with you Grip -- I am always so thrilled when you post anything and I read everything you write. You have a lot of wisdom and I'm grateful that you are willing to share it with those of us far less along the path than you are. I'm just frustrated that I can't make things happen for me - or for others -- faster. I feel like there's a deadline approaching and we are (I am) still not where we (I) need to be.

[Limor Wolf]

Originally posted by Gripreaper: " These interlopers know how to use symbolism, ritual, blood sacrifice, microwave entrainment, fiat debt commerce, media, and entertainment to keep us subservient and to distract us from our own true power with our connection to source. They use this power in a satanic way, the same power we have, with much success.

We indigenous empathic souls barely recognize that this power exists. We can't fathom the degree of evil that is used by these bloodlines, to manipulate the energetic matrix for their own personal aggrandizement, and to use earth as a loosh farm where they vampire all energy and resources for themselves.

How we shift the energetics and come into our own power, is to rebuke and rebut the energetic trusts put in place by these bloodlines, imbed a new intention with pure heart, the highest and best outcome for all sentient souls on planet earth, and then stop feeding the beast your energy and supporting the slavery control grid.

Your words are very highly true and accurate, and of most importance at this time, Gripreaper, thank you very much for that . This ought to be well understood, our energetic consent is needed and is drawn in many hidden and subtle ways, diabolic pockets of entrapment, bones are being thrown for us to fetch, doors to be open and consumption and manifestation for other's purposes to be made..

Time to learn the art of subtle energies and doing our own shared creation

https://projectavalon.net/forum4/show...l=1#post962233

Many good Blessings ~

Limor

[Daozen]

Some days I do feel like there is something positive afoot -- the energy feels "good" -- but then I look at the mainstream news or even the alternative news that tells me about the ongoing illegal wars done by executive orders in the middle east and the various legal defeats for the opponents of vaccines and GMO's, etc -- and I see that the Dark Side is proceeding without apparent concern. Are these desperate, last ditch efforts for control? Or are we in denial/fooling ourselves? Not sure yet.

I'm not sure yet either. I think both sides are making a big effort. So I will just keep on until I'm sure we've won. I think alt media keeps people in a state of short term trauma when we should be ready for a longer haul. I don't think it'll be easy. One thing I decided recently is I will spend less time online, and more time in nature or at work.

[vortexpoint]

I don't know if it's relevant but I would be interested to know if any of those groups, projects and cults that Shane had experience of had time travel tech and if so, how was it implemented?

[Old Wolf]

Thanks a bunch for the interview Shane Love hearing it all.

Kindly.

[turiya]

Cross-posted from another thread..., and also on the Kerry Cassidy / Shane interview thread.

Shane [akaThe Ruiner] Interview with Thomas Williams, 15 Sept 2015

Going over the Shane / Thomas Williams interview, there is quite a bit there that needs to be commented on.

First off, I have not heard Thomas Williams [nor Kerry Cassidy, for that matter] ask Shane specifically about what were the specific details of what his Illuminati education consisted of - from the age of 4 on up.

For example, when Thomas Williams asks Shane about the early history, 13,000 years ago (and 26,000 years ago) of the Dracos being on this planet. The information that Shane provides is pretty well found to be coinciding with the Annunaki Fantasy story that can be found in the Zecharia Sitchin books. Those that are quite familiar with this thread should be aware that Bill Ryan (edit: & NOT Kerry Cassidy) was told by a close associate of Zecharia Sitchin's (looks like this could very well be the one & only Jordan Maxwell), and that Zecharia Sitchin did not actually translate the Sumerian Cuneiform Tablets, but had channeled some of that information from an Annunaki entity through the method of channeling known as Automatic Writing. Source found here.

So, from the interview, it is found that Shane feels that he had pretty much avoided being "mind-controlled", hypnotized, by his Illuminati teachers, or by his so-called Dracos Reptilian handlers that attempted to do the same with him. It need not be pointed out, but I will anyway, much programming by societies is done during a youth's very early years. They grab hold of the child as soon as possible to ensure that the child is a well conditioned conformist.

Normally, at least in this country, the public school system is known as the "The Public Fool System" because of the simple fact that this is where the brainwashing of the young minds takes place to have individuals conditioned to accept the mores of the culture. And so Shane admits that he began his indoctrination at the young age of 4-years-old. So, the question I have for Shane is the following:

Can you really say that 'none' of that early Illuminati education you were exposed to & impressed with, had not entered into the deeper recesses of your own mind? Because as you relate the 13,000 years ago history, and originally 26,000 years ago - now, this lines up, way too much, with the Nibiru cycle found in Sitchin's books. Not to mention King Anu, Enki and the rest? Was this part of your early Illuminati education? That you have since repeated in the Thomas Williams interview? Its very well known that Zecharia Sitchin, btw, was an Illuminati member as shown in the following video clip.

In other words, was the Zecharia Sitchin information part of your Illuminati education programming?

Source: https://youtube.com/watch?v=1wWxqXashBo